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Ping Eric Smith

by jpl15＠panix.com

Panix on your shit-list? Drop me a line, if possble... Cheerz John

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Anyone interested in an AT&T mainframe?

by gunther＠aurora.regenstrief.org

Hello, I just came back from Boston where I packed all that I could take off that VAX 11/785 carcass that I bought earlier this year on ebay. Unfortunately I had to leave cabinets behind, I had word that U.S.Airways would not had let me check that kind of baggage :-). But I managed to get the whole KA785 backplane assembly with all the boards plus a memory backplane on the flight and home. I had to leave 2 H7100 PSUs behind and two MBA backplanes. If anyone is looking for SBI/MBA backplanes, holler ASAP! They might get lost otherwise. Joe, who is the keeper of that shop (and who frequently sells good stuff on ebay) told me about an AT&T mainframe system he has available. So, if you are interested in an AT&T mainframe system (I haven't had the time to see it) you want to let him know. (For privacy reasons I have left his address off, but let me know and I will Fwd to him.) regards, -Gunther PS: just in case you are in Boston and so inclined: there is still a nice Unibus cabinet out there, together with the remains of the VAX one could build a CPU extension cabinet, which is what one would need to turn a VAX 11/78x into a dual-processor machine according to the Purdue recipe. Something I would have loved to try if I could have found a way to take that cabinet home.

22 years, 6 months

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HP 85B Schematics wanted

by dave＠undertheoaks.net

I am working on a HP 85B with a dead power supply. No +5, +12 just 37volts on the large cap on the power supply board. Can anyone please help. Schmatics would be great! - Dave

22 years, 6 months

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Bulk Erase 8" floppies

by cb＠mythtech.net

Is it safe to use a Bulk Tape Eraser on 8" floppies? I don't see why not, but I figured I'd ask the pros before I did it. I have a case load of 8" floppies that will be in the piles of stuff to be gotten rid of at my "Open House". The problem is, almost all of them carry accounting records on them (payroll, and stuff like that). Granted they are years old, but some of the people on the disks still work for us (and most of them are still alive). Naturally I want to erase them before they leave my custody, but I don't have the time to format each one. And don't anyone panic... the case of disks are NOT on the list headed to the dumpster. If they aren't sold/taken over the weekend, I plan to try to sell them off in small bundles (and probably trade/give away the ones that carry actual software to other people that have System 23s) I also forgot to mention, 3/4" UMatic VCRs will be available here as well. Many are older top loading, but a few are newer front loading Sony units. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

22 years, 6 months

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Digging up Gnomes [OT thread resurrection]

by pljones＠earthling.net

Oh dear, I'm always late... Anyway, I thought I'd wave in passing. Hi TMS, hi Gnomey! Say hi (and where on earth did 8888815 disappear to?) to Glyn if you see him. -- Just another Autognomic Host purchaser with VWDB, VWDBB and VWDBBB directories just waiting for an opportunity to fly again. (also known in those days as Thanatos and possessing more hair...) PS: Of course, it's about getting the feel of the software: the autognome and the occasional *FOD, they'd be essential features... PPS: And dammit why did no one call..? Stn. 250, Caller nr. 487 was +++WBe0036, Line drop. Logged on at 20:40:32 29.10.90 for 0 minutes. Stn. 250, Caller nr. 488 was 1111'rd, GUESTUBBER. Logged on at 20:43:09 29.10.90 for 0 minutes.

22 years, 6 months

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Micro/Sys CPM systems?

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

Anybody know anything about any CPM sstems made by Micro/Sys? I think they used STD bus cards. I have a big pile of 8" floppy disks for the M/S systems including a lot of them with source code. I think M/S is the same company that now uses the name Embedded Systems. They're website says that they still make STD bus cards but no mention of CPM OS. Joe

22 years, 6 months

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Bulk Erase 8" floppies

by Robert_Feldman＠jdedwards.com

Which reminds me of the story of the person who called tech support to say that the cup holder on their computer had broken. On further questioning, he revealed that the cup holder, when retracted, had "2x" on the door that covered it :) -----Original Message----- From: Fred Cisin [mailto:cisin@xenosoft.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 3:02 PM To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Subject: Re: Bulk Erase 8" floppies <snip> A few years ago, the lab staff insisted on removing ALL 5.25" drives from the lab, because students (and even one instructor!) were trying to put CD-ROMs into them!

22 years, 6 months

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IBM 5110 floppy

by cb＠mythtech.net

>> what density and side count does >> an IBM 5110's external floppy drive use? > >SS/SD, SS/DD, and DS/DD. With various sector sizes. See >the Customer Support Functions manual and the 5114 Maintenance >Information Manual. Thanks muchly! -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

22 years, 6 months

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IBM 5110 floppy

by cb＠mythtech.net

Thinking of this 8" floppy business... what density and side count does an IBM 5110's external floppy drive use? Since I'm not getting rid of my 5110, I want to be sure to keep a small stack of the correct floppies to use with it. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

22 years, 6 months

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kaypro 2 cables (question)

by CribbReeper＠aol.com

hi, do you know where i can get ahold of a kaypro 2 keyboard cable, it looks like a telephone cord connection, (knoe what i mean) and i cant find one any where, i really need to get some advice, is it hidden in the computer somewhere?? thanx. sincerely, t.w.

22 years, 6 months

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Price Check on Aisle 5

by cb＠mythtech.net

Where is a good resource to find out saleable values of classic computer hardware? I know eBay isn't really all that great because it isn't consistent enough. What goes for $5 today may go for $500 tomorrow, and then not sell at all the next day. Like many others, I'm painfully short on money right now, and I've just lost my storage area, so I can't hang on to things much longer. So I'm trying to find out what is worth what, so I know what to try to sell, versus give away, versus throw away (I'm already making the tough decision on what to keep, but that's not really based on monetary value so much as personal value to me). Is there a good place to check for the value of some of this stuff? And not just the value in terms of what its worth IF you can find a buyer... but also value in terms of will it sell at all? (It doesn't do me much good if something is "worth" $100, but no one really wants to buy it right now). -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

22 years, 6 months

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Anyone have older HP rack nuts?

by jwest＠classiccmp.org

I'm looking for 4 particular rack nuts for an older HP rack. These are the nuts that are trapezoid shaped, and have a spring on the back. Not a tension/flat spring, a coiled spiral spring. In addition, these racks use two different size nuts. One size hole (larger) for the L angle brackets, and a different size (smaller) for the rails that mount a 2100 cpu because the (different) bolts have to clear the inside of the rails. I am guessing these are not a common item that I could find at a hardware store. Would anyone have 4 to spare? Is there possibly a source for these still? Jay West

22 years, 6 months

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OT: need to drive a vector CRT...

by Edward.Tillman＠valero.com

Why are we so far OT...? Cheers... Ed Tillman Store Automation Tech Support Specialist Valero Energy Corporation San Antonio, Texas, USA Office: (210)592-3110, Fax (210)592-2048 Email: edward.tillman(a)valero.com <mailto:edward.tillman@valero.com> -----Original Message----- From: vance(a)neurotica.com [mailto:vance@neurotica.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 11:18 PM To: Vintage Computer Festival Cc: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Subject: Re: OT: need to drive a vector CRT... On Tue, 16 Sep 2003, Vintage Computer Festival wrote: > > > > As far as I'm concerned, they can go back up. I have a friend > > > > that flies the F-15E that would be more than happy to make it rain > > > > scrap metal all over the desert. :) > > > > > > Iran isn't a desert. 8-) > > > > Yes but we can change that! > > Not cool. *So* not cool. Peace... Sridhar

22 years, 6 months

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Price Check on Aisle 5

by cb＠mythtech.net

>http://marketplace.vintage.org > >If you haven't visited yet then you're missing out on a lot of good stuff >that's currently listed for for great prices. Here's a link to all the >currently listed free stuff: I stopped by there right before posting my email. I do plan to test the waters there to see what happens. What made me decide to post the email was because I have someone interested in one of my 128k Macs, but I have zero idea what the value is. eBay shows none for sale, or sold recently, and nothing turned up on the vintage market place either (although it is my first look there, so I've not figured out all the search nuances yet). I could have simply asked what is a 128k Mac worth, but since that is just the item of *right now* and I have 4 offices full of similar items I need to do something with, I figured it was easier to see where people used to find the value of stuff. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

22 years, 6 months

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amiga 4000 repair / replacement

by cvs＠charter.net

Hello, I found you on the web. I have a Amiga 4000 toaster/flyer system. When booting the flyer, I get a "cannot load toaster screen" error message. I used my second system to switch out toaster, flyer daughter and cpu cards. I also swapped system drives and power supplies. The problem remains on the suspect Amiga, so it must be motherboard related. I understand that dead Lisa or Buster chips can be the cause? I guess I have three options: Can you repair my Amiga 4000? Do you have a working A4000 for sale? Do you have a known good motherboard I can purchase (possibly with my old MB in trade as a core)? Please let me know, Thanks, Greg

22 years, 6 months

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Poynting Products SS-50 boards?

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

I just checked my Tanner memory card against the photos on Michael Holley's SWTPC site and realized that (1) mine uses jumpers instead of DIP switches and (2) mine has no voltage regulators! The regulars were left off of it and the regulator inputs are jumpered directly to the outputs. Good thing I didn't plug them into a system and try to use them! Joe > > Hi, > > I found some more cards that I THINK are SS-50 cards. Two of them were made by Poynting Products. Does anyone know anything about them? No idea what the cards are for, there are no identifying marks other than model numbers and no unique connectors and all the ICs are 74xx SSI ICs. One is marked "model VB8 Rev B" and the other is marked "Model 505 Rev B". Both of these cards are marked "(C) 1983 Poynting Products Inc." and appear to be for the SS-50 computer bus as used in the SWTPC computers. > > In the same lot I also found a Tanner SS 50 64K memory card. That's what makes me pretty certain the others actually are SS 50 cards. The tanner card is filled with Hitachi HM 6116s (Static Rams). > > Does any one know anything about Poynting Products or what these might be? > > Joe

22 years, 6 months

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Poynting Products SS-50 boards?

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

Hi, I found some more cards that I THINK are SS-50 cards. Two of them were made by Poynting Products. Does anyone know anything about them? No idea what the cards are for, there are no identifying marks other than model numbers and no unique connectors and all the ICs are 74xx SSI ICs. One is marked "model VB8 Rev B" and the other is marked "Model 505 Rev B". Both of these cards are marked "(C) 1983 Poynting Products Inc." and appear to be for the SS-50 computer bus as used in the SWTPC computers. In the same lot I also found a Tanner SS 50 64K memory card. That's what makes me pretty certain the others actually are SS 50 cards. The tanner card is filled with Hitachi HM 6116s (Static Rams). Does any one know anything about Poynting Products or what these might be? Joe

22 years, 6 months

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Melbourne hamfest report and the Lucky SOB!

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

OH SHIT! How could I forget? I got a SWTPC Function Generator too. Looks like this <http://www.swtpc.com/mholley/Catalog2/Page19.jpg>. Joe

22 years, 6 months

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Melbourne hamfest report and the Lucky SOB!

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

They held the Melbourne Fla hamfest this part weekend. This is the first hamfest of the season and it's always one of the best. One of our fellow CC Listers was visiting from out of state and I invited him to go along. (Now I wish I hadn't!) I arrived at the crack of dawn Saturday morning. Almost immediately I found a big cardboard box full of plastic parts bins filled with ICs and other parts from the late '60s for $5. Later found the accessory kit for the Tektronix Engine Analyzer. I'd heard of these but never seen one before. It has a rotary motion sensor, several pressure sensors (5,000 and 45,000 PSI!) and sensors for both horizontal and vertical acceleration. They connect to a specail time base and four channel amplifier for the 561 O'scope. You can use them to monitor cylinder head pressure, combustion chamber pressure, knock, engine pinging, vibrations, bearing wear and all kinds of other engine parameters. I also got a Pro-Log Z-80 front panel similar to the 8080 one that was offered on this list a couple of weeks ago. Meet up with Steve Robertson and got a huge stack of 8" floppy disks and six drives. He was cleaning out and wanted them gone. Found lots of nice stuff in the stack including many original disks for CPM, WordStar, Dbase II and others. But the real find of the day was made by the visiting CC Lister. He didn't even show up till after 12 and by then many of the vendors had packed up and gone home. BUT, this lucky SOB walked down the FIRST row and before he got to the end, he'd found a mint Hero Jr with all the manuals and a mint Heathkit ET-3400 with the manuals and in the original box! For obvious reasons he prefers to remain nameless! Joe

22 years, 6 months

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(no subject)

by greyeyz＠sc.rr.com

We were Kaypro dealers back in the 1980's. It's neat to know someone is still using that wonderful, first (albeit heavy), portable computer.

22 years, 6 months

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Orpahaned PPC640

by keithhymas＠hotmail.com

Hi, I have found a PPC640 abandoned and homeless, just the PPC nothing else. Plugged in a power supply and turned on. Lights, camera, action. Sort off. The yellow LED beside the CRT label is on and steady and the red power LED is on and steady also. The built-in speaker however is continuously beeping. The volume control has no effect, surprise, during the attempted boot up. That's it nothing else. No LEDs turn on for drives A or B. No display changes on the built in monitor. I have set the DIP switches as you have recommended, in your answer to an inquiry dated Fri July 21:04:02, but no change from either option. A lost course perhaps? I only have knowledge of the Amstrad range via my old 286 but was intrigued when I saw this 'laptop' all alone in a parking bay. Any directions would be greatly appreciated Keith

22 years, 6 months

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Open House

by cb＠mythtech.net

Well, I had planned to do this next month, as I'm not *really* ready for it yet, but I was just informed that our sublet is going thru on Oct 1st. So... provided the hurricane doesn't hit this weekend (Sept 20,21) I'm having an open house for anyone that wants to stop in and pick thru what I have to get rid of. Not everything you will see is available, but a very large portion of it is (if you want it, ask). And most of what is available is either really really cheap, or totally free. I have to have it all out before the last week of September. A small sample of what I have: IBM System 23's small IDE drives (less than 500 MB) 5.25 floppy drives (1.2's and 360's) CGA monitors VGA monitors (640x480 only) IBM AT's Leading Edge PCs Ads ViewPoint terminals cables, cables, cables AT Keyboards Mac ADB keyboards 68k Macs (desktop and All-In-One) Assorted cards (ISA, MCA, sound, maynard, risers, token ring, et al) A/V equipment (tape decks mostly) ASR 33 Teletype AT&T Unix machines (63?? runs System V and has some kind of DOS card in them) IBM PS/1 IBM PCjr with parallel side car (PCjr, screen, keyboard, power brick) Some software and manuals Some Apple II odds and ends (drive, IIe logic board, other stuff) Printers (Dot Matrix, Ink Jet, Laser) And lots and lots of other assorted computer and A/V stuff (as well as some general office furniture) that I haven't mentioned. Lots of it is probably worth money, which I have zero of right now, so if you want something and you know its worth money, feel free to be nice and pay me for it. I lack the time to try and sell any of it, so if you aren't nice, I'm getting exactly what I would get for it if you don't take it... NOTHING! I'm already pissed at how much of the stuff I spent money on, and is now going to be thrown out before I got to play with it. A good chunk of the stuff is still untested. Could be good, could be bad. Anything known good is labeled as such, but I've spent the last month testing and haven't made much of a dent. (limited testing will be available on site, it will depend on what it is that needs to be tested) The open house is at my office in Ridgwood New Jersey (07450). Email me for directions and any questions. Time is flexible, I'll probably be here most of the weekend anyway, but chances are I'll be the only one, so please let me know in advance if you want to stop in so I can leave doors unlocked and notes as where to find me. In the event that Hurricane Isabelle hits this weekend, I'll postpone until during the week... but there is a very good chance I can't keep things until the following weekend. Of course, anyone that wants to stop in before or after this weekend, that's fine too... first come first served. I don't have the time to ship anything, so if there is something you know I have, and you want it shipped, you better be able to make it worth my time ($$$). Nothing will be held for later pickup. If you can't take it when you are here, then someone else can, or you'd better be back before it hits the dumpster. Sorry to seem like a PITA about this, but my deadline came faster than I expected, and right in the middle of me doing other jobs I can't put off. If I don't have things cleared out before the end of the month, it will be done for me, which means EVERYTHING will be thrown out (and there is some stuff I need to keep, so I'm fighting a fast moving clock). -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

22 years, 6 months

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Help for a Brother! (fwd)

by bpope＠wordstock.com

All, Can anyone help this person? I am forwarding this message from a fido mailing list gateway. Any responses I will forward to the fidoclassic mailing list. Cheers, Bryan Pope And thusly Mike Luther spake: > > Subject sorta says it all! > > A friend was still keeping tons of correspondence on a Brother Word Processor > even up until a year or so, until the Windows Genie showed up. You know, one of > the ones with the old fashioned LCD screen and so on, the integrated > Brotherhood! Grin. You know, the one which only stored whatever you wrote on > floppy disks, I think 3-1/2 inch stuff if my memory is correct. > > Well, the Great God of Fire settled on the building into which she had taken > refuge up in Idaho, not too long ago. And with it .. to wherever good Brothers > go when consumed, went the Brother Word Processor. So now she is faced with a > whole box full of floppy disks with all the correspondence. The consumate > backup, if you will. And as luck would have it, she needs .. for tax purposes, > copies of some of the letters that were all put together on this ingenious > all-in-one member of the Order of the Benevolent Infiniture of Brothers! > > Sigh .. What now? > > Does anyone here know about operating system, word processing format, any of > this for this Order? I've nver seen anything about how the scribes stored this > stuff. Heck, I don't even know if I can mount one of these diskettes on my OS/2 > Warp MCP2 level system, much less translate the dialect? Heck, it might be an > evil byte of an Apple clone for all I know! > > Ideas? > > > --> Sleep well; OS/2's still awake! ;) > > Mike @ 1:117/3001 > > _______________________________________________ > FidoClassic mailing list > FidoClassic(a)videocam.net.au > http://lists.videocam.net.au/mailman/listinfo/fidoclassic

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Early issues (1983-1986) of InfoWorld and PC Week wanted

by vcf＠siconic.com

I'm looking to buy early issues of PC Week and InfoWorld, specifically >from the 1983-1986 timeframe but any time before that time period would also be good. If you've got some taking up space then please get back to me. Thanks! -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org [ Old computing resources for business || Buy/Sell/Trade Vintage Computers ] [ and academia at www.VintageTech.com || at http://marketplace.vintage.org ]

22 years, 6 months

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Help for a Brother! (fwd)

by luc＠e2t.be

I am not sure it's the correct version but I have a converter for "Brother Typewriter" disks to Word format As I am not allowed to make large attachments here, I've put it on the web. www.e2t.be/brother I hope it helps you... Luc -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: cctalk-admin(a)classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-admin@classiccmp.org]Namens Bryan Pope Verzonden: dinsdag 16 september 2003 13:54 Aan: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org CC: FidoClassic(a)videocam.net.au Onderwerp: Help for a Brother! (fwd) All, Can anyone help this person? I am forwarding this message from a fido mailing list gateway. Any responses I will forward to the fidoclassic mailing list. Cheers, Bryan Pope And thusly Mike Luther spake: > > Subject sorta says it all! > > A friend was still keeping tons of correspondence on a Brother Word Processor > even up until a year or so, until the Windows Genie showed up. You know, one of > the ones with the old fashioned LCD screen and so on, the integrated > Brotherhood! Grin. You know, the one which only stored whatever you wrote on > floppy disks, I think 3-1/2 inch stuff if my memory is correct. > > Well, the Great God of Fire settled on the building into which she had taken > refuge up in Idaho, not too long ago. And with it .. to wherever good Brothers > go when consumed, went the Brother Word Processor. So now she is faced with a > whole box full of floppy disks with all the correspondence. The consumate > backup, if you will. And as luck would have it, she needs .. for tax purposes, > copies of some of the letters that were all put together on this ingenious > all-in-one member of the Order of the Benevolent Infiniture of Brothers! > > Sigh .. What now? > > Does anyone here know about operating system, word processing format, any of > this for this Order? I've nver seen anything about how the scribes stored this > stuff. Heck, I don't even know if I can mount one of these diskettes on my OS/2 > Warp MCP2 level system, much less translate the dialect? Heck, it might be an > evil byte of an Apple clone for all I know! > > Ideas? > > > --> Sleep well; OS/2's still awake! ;) > > Mike @ 1:117/3001 > > _______________________________________________ > FidoClassic mailing list > FidoClassic(a)videocam.net.au > http://lists.videocam.net.au/mailman/listinfo/fidoclassic

22 years, 6 months

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DSM-11 (Digital Std MUMPS) info needed

by luc＠e2t.be

Hi Folks, I found a description of the M Language on the following site: http://207.224.6.57 M(umps) by Example gr. Luc

22 years, 6 months

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OT: Help on a few fronts...

by zmerch＠30below.com

Otay, I need a little personal help, and help for a couple of friends, so I'll lump them all into a single message, to minimize the s:n ratio... 1) For me: This may actually be on-topic, but if not, it's close. I have a from-scratch linux installation, and I'm trying to find the source code for the (original) X-windows solitare game of Spider. I don't have Gnome or KDE running (Actually, it's FVWM2... ;-) and so many of the newer games won't compile unless I add .5G of libraries... which I'm unwilling to add for 1 frelling game. Anyone have the source tarball on an ancient linux distro somewhere? (I tried all mine, and couldn't find it... :-( ) 2) Off-topic, but hackerdom-based... I have a friend that has an AMD "Super-Socket-7" pentium based motherboard - model: Micronics C200. It has a fragged BIOS. He gave me the "correct" .bin file that I burned onto a provided EEPROM - but it 1) wasn't the right file, or 2) wasn't the right format for burning. Does anyone have that board that could get me a workable BIOS dump? 3) Off-topic, but it's for a *really* good friend of mine... he an Agfa Snapscan 1236 SCSI scanner, and would like the transparency / slide add-on gizmo for it. I've googled & ebayed... no useful hits... :-( Anyone here know where to get one for sale? As always, all replies offlist, please, and thanks for any and all help anyone could provide... Thanks! Roger "Merch" Merchberger -- Roger "Merch" Merchberger -- sysadmin, Iceberg Computers zmerch(a)30below.com What do you do when Life gives you lemons, and you don't *like* lemonade?????????????

22 years, 6 months

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DSM-11 (Digital Std MUMPS) info needed

by luc＠e2t.be

Waw, I checked the DSM images on a PDP11 simulator and it runs like in the good old days... Even the automatic hardware detection is working during sysgen. I 'll give those who want to play with it a few programs: To stop the system in a civilized manner: >D ^SSD To configure the system: >D ^%UTL To copy tapes if you have 2 tape drives >D ^TAPECOPY To build a new distribution tape: >D ^SYTOTAPE A very quick introduction to M(umps) M is an interpreter so you can enter commands in immediate mode if you don't start with a TAB syntax is: <COMMAND><SPACE><ARG1>,<ARG2>,... there must be a space between the command and the arguments. You can have as many commands on a line as you want if you separate them with a space. Most commands can be abbrev. to the first letter (there are less then 26 commands in M) so WRITE "HELLO" and W "HELLO" are identical. Commands without arguments must be separated from the next command by 2 spaces. All variables types are string (no panic you can do math on it)and does not exist by default as in basic. so W X give an error but SET X=3 W X is fine. the READ command reads from stdio (=current terminal) unless otherwise defined so R X W !,X reads from the keyboard and prints it back on the screen after you push enter. (the ! mark give a CRLF on the screen) the DO command starts execution of a program. The ^ indicates that the program is to be loaded from disk so D ^%UTL loads program %UTL from disk and starts execution at the first line. P(RINT) without arguments lists the program in memory (it's an interpreter so all code is visible) W(RITE) without arguments lists all variables in memory to load a program without executing it just use ZL(OAD) programname ex.: ZL SYTOTAPE P loads the program SYTOTAPE in memory and lists it on the console device. If you want to have the listing on a printer and you have a LP11 in your system, you can redirect the output to this printer. The first LP11 device has port number 3 in DSM so typing: O(PEN) 3 U(SE) 3 P C(LOSE) 3 - notice 2 spaces between the P and the C as P has no arguments! Don't forget this C command or your I/O is redirected to the printer and the console looks dead (you can solve this by typing Ctl C) And finally for this first intro: to have a directory listing of all the programs on disk: D ^%RD (in M a program is called a routine and %RD means routinedirectory ;)) Luc

22 years, 6 months

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Books and Manuals, FREE or very inexpensive

by mail.list＠analog-and-digital-solutions.com

I was doing some searching for Pro-Log manuals on the internet, and I ran across this web page from ADVANCED VEHICLE TECHNOLOGIES, Inc. where they have some books and manuals that they didn't want to throw out, so they are giving some of it away, or selling some of it very inexpensively http://www.avt-hq.com/books_01.htm http://www.avt-hq.com/contact.htm I've already gotten just the two Pro-Log manuals. They also have some surplus hardware for sale. Some of it is inexpensive. http://www.avt-hq.com/surplus.htm Best Regards

22 years, 6 months

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Disposing of Collection (Part 2)

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

Well, several people are interested in a few different items. The best advice I've gotten from some people is to get someone else to dispose of the stuff on eBay. I think this is the route that I'm going to take. Or at least I'll try it out and see how it works. OTOH, if someone offers sufficient money for a significant chunk of the collection and comes with a large truck to pick it up, I'll sell it to them. So if there is something you really want, why risk eBay, just offer a huge pile of cash for my collection :^) Zane -- -- | Zane H. Healy | UNIX Systems Administrator | | healyzh(a)aracnet.com (primary) | OpenVMS Enthusiast | | | Classic Computer Collector | +----------------------------------+----------------------------+ | Empire of the Petal Throne and Traveller Role Playing, | | PDP-10 Emulation and Zane's Computer Museum. | | http://www.aracnet.com/~healyzh/ |

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HP54615B powersupply?

by mattis＠mattisborgen.org

Hi! Maybe not really classic computers, but one need a good oscillioscope to fix problems in old computers... My HP54615B has a dead powersupply. It just ticks once a second or so. The fan just rotates slowly. Does anyone has an idea what component has failed? I have checked som transistores and diodes, they all seem to be fine. I am about to replace som capacitors now. Maybe there are someone out there that has the schematic for this scope??? /Mattis Lind

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Omnibot 2000 goes for over$400

by jrkeys＠concentric.net

With the box it went for $405 on ebay. It making it very hard to get the tray and remote that I need for mine.:-( http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?viewitem&item=3144773461

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HP cabinet keys sought

by jwest＠classiccmp.org

The new rack I am building into has locks on the back doors. I have a pretty large ring of HP keys, and none of them fit. All the HP racks I have thus far use the same back door key, except this one. I believe the lock is marked 2097. Any chance someone may have a key for this and could get me a copy? This key appears to be the kind where the "main channel" on the key is down the center, not on one side. Thanks in advance! Jay West

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Help with a eprom

by TRASH3＠splab.cas.neu.edu

Eprom is all done. I burned two of them onto TMS27c128 28 pin chips. verified fine. Just need a ship to address. Joe Heck (trash3 at splab . cas . neu . edu)

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MacOS 8.6 or 9.1

by emu＠ecubics.com

Anybody has a good Source for them ? My hardrive crashed, and I got the machine with the OS installed :( Checking ebay already regularly, but no luck there :( cheers & thanks

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Interesting Atari/Tandy archive site

by jpl15＠panix.com

Y'all might want to check these guys out: http://www.atarimagazines.com/ An awful lot of work went into this... Cheerz John

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specifications for IBM XT-286

by redodd＠comcast.net

----- Original Message ----- > Message: 18 > Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2003 16:07:32 +0200 > Organization: http://freemail.web.de/ > From: "Pierre Gebhardt" <cheri-post(a)web.de> > To: cctech(a)classiccmp.org > Subject: specifications for IBM XT-286 > Reply-To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org > > Hi all, > > can anybody tell me, what harddrive and disk drives (modelnumber and company) are built in a IBM XT-286 ? > I found such a machine 2 months ago. Unfortunately, all the drives are missing. > The machine itself semms to be in a godd condition. > > Thanks alot in advance for your help! > > Pierre > ____________________________________________________________________________ __ > 38xTestsieger - WEB.DE FreeMail - Deutschlands beste E-Mail > Jeden Monat mit 10% mehr Leistung! http://f.web.de/?mc=021138 > > --__--__-- Pierre, Here are 2 links concerning the XT-286. http://www.uncreativelabs.org/~matt/classic/5162.html http://safariexamples.informit.com/0789725428/Reference%5Chardware.pdf Hope this helps. Ralph

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need HP 9121D cabinet/circuit board

by jack.rubin＠ameritech.net

I've got a 9121D floppy subsystem that fails to pass POST. Drives wink on power up, fan turns, fuses check out ok, but indicator LED on circuit board never comes on and drives remain invisible to IB controller (1630G logic analyzer). I've blown out the dust, reseated cables and the one socketed PROM and that's all I can figure out to do. Nothing seems obviously damaged or smoked. I didn't have the unit a couple of months ago when people were tossing these things into dumpsters, but hopefully someone still has a known (or possibly) good cabinet/circuit board sitting on the shelf at some reasonable price. I guess I'd also consider buying another complete subsystem if necessary. Obviously, service data or trouble-shooting ideas would be welcome Thanks. Jack Rubin Wilmette, Illinois USA

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Where to get MacOS

by alhartman＠yahoo.com

Try: http://www.purplus.com MacOS 8.1 and 7.6 cheaply. They might also have 8.6 and 9.x, though I haven't checked recently. Al > Subject: MacOS 8.6 or 9.1 > > Anybody has a good Source for them ? > My hardrive crashed, and I got the machine with the > OS installed :( > Checking ebay already regularly, but no luck there > :( > > cheers & thanks

22 years, 6 months

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DSM-11 (Digital Std MUMPS) info needed

by luc＠e2t.be

This is not UNIX man ;) The factory default UCI (user class identifier) is MGR and this should be follwed by a semicolon and the name of the program to execute or, in your case the PAC code (programmer access code) - this code was asked during sysgen and is by default XXX So you enter ....UCI:MGR:XXX <CR> and should be in. at the prompt you type: >w "Hello World",! <CR> So, the V4.1 was OK, after being for 15 years in my "blockhaus" in the garden???? The V3.3 I got from a friend - het got it for the same number of years in a drawer of his desk??? Luc -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: cctalk-admin(a)classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-admin@classiccmp.org]Namens Fred N. van Kempen Verzonden: maandag 15 september 2003 17:46 Aan: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Onderwerp: RE: DSM-11 (Digital Std MUMPS) info needed On Mon, 15 Sep 2003, Luc Vande Velde wrote: > Fred and all other DSM lovers, > > First of all a tiny little correction: the name is Luc Vande Velde ;) > I 'll contact my ex-colleages to see if if I can find the original DEC Whoooops. Sowwy! > sysgen. On every question asked you can type ? to get a bit more info. Heh, and then... it asks me for a UIC. I dont have one, and the silly system doesn't understand 'root' either... :) But: they're saved. Yay! Luc: the V3.3 tape is *bad* ... took me 3 hours and many cycles of cleaning, rewinding and retrying to get it "in" ... --f

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MS-WORKS 2.0/Monitor Driver

by gesar＠tiscalinet.ch

I got this application on my 286 AT. It's running fine with a color-monitor connected, but when I try to start Works on a monochrome monitor, I get the warning: "Non-valid or missing Monitor-Driver-File" (originally in German). Can this obstacle be overcome and what exactly should I look for? Thanks for caring! Steff

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specifications for IBM XT-286

by Innfogra＠aol.com

In a message dated 9/15/03 10:05:27 AM Pacific Daylight Time, cheri-post(a)web.de writes: > It shouldn't be a problem to find out what kind of drive it is. > Do you have an idea if it's a full height - or half height-built drive ? > My book says originally it came with a Full Height 20 meg HD and a single 1/2 Height 1.2 Meg DSHD floppy. You could add another 5 1/4 inch 1/2HT floppy or a 1/2 ht Tape drive. You could also order it in several configurations. Recommended was the 3 1/2 inch 1.44 meg floppy drive. Info is coming from a third edition of Que's Upgrading and repairing PCs. I think you could use any 20 meg half height HD that meets the same configuration, i.e., Seagate ST 225 or similar. IIRC the original 20 Meg FH HD for the AT was an abysmal failure, a CMI or something like that. Very high failure rate. Paxton Astoria, OR

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Price Check on Aisle 5

by cb＠mythtech.net

>I would say a nice, fully functional original Mac with all the original >manuals, software and components, is worth around $250-$300. They are >not all that rare, but are becoming harder to find, especially in working >condition. Because people like me have too many. :-) At last count, I have 5... 4 working, with one that has an accelertor installed (and the non working one I know what is wrong. It is missing a diode that was removed to get a mac Plus working at one point. In theory, if I replace the diode, it should work again. I may just remove it from the Plus it was put into, since I have way to many of those as well) All 5 have mouse and keyboard. But I don't have manuals or software for all 5 (either 2 or 3 sets, including audio Guided Tour tape). I think I *might* have one box, can't be sure until I can get into my parents basement again. I have someone on the line for one of them. He doesn't want keyboard or mouse or manuals. I told him I was looking for $50 when I planned on him taking keyboard and mouse (never offered manuals to him at all). And now would take less since he only wants the Mac itself. So it looks like I wasn't too far off on what it was worth. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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Price Check on Aisle 5

by cb＠mythtech.net

>Your best bet for mac stuff is the swap list from www.lowendmac.com, its >very active and if you can check out the archive it would give you a good >idea what stuff sells for. Already on that list. And it is one of the places that some of my stuff will start to show up. I just like to have all my ducks in a row before I start trying to sell things. I don't have the time to really drag it out with guesses. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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Price Check on Aisle 5

by cb＠mythtech.net

>You have conflicting requirements, if you are >interested in the price it will get today, then thats >an auction price which varies day by day. > >If you are interested in what the price would be if it >were, say, for sale in an online antique store, thats >a different, but generally more stable (and higher) >price. But you couldn't sell it today. > >You are asking for a stable price that can sell today, >sorry, that doesn't exist. Yes, I understand what I want is rather conflicting. I think what I want is really two things. 1: a way to find a "value", kind of like a price guide... and 2: a way to know if its a selling item. Once I know both, I can then make the decisions if I want to sell it, keep it for sale later, keep it until it sells, or give/throw it away. What I am trying to avoid is throwing out stuff that I think is worthless, only to find later that someone really needed it, or that it was worth a lot of money. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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Orphaned PPC640

by RMaxwell＠atlantissi.com

Hello, Keith: My PPC512 was a tad more expensive, 50 cents at a ham flea market. Dead, it only needed a fuse.

22 years, 6 months

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specifications for IBM XT-286

by cheri-post＠web.de

> According to my records the XT/286 (5162-286) came with a std 20 Meg HD, a > MFM drive with 4 heads, 615 Cyl, 17 sectors, a 65 ms Drive. AT type 2. Thanks alot for your answer ! It shouldn't be a problem to find out what kind of drive it is. Do you have an idea if it's a full height - or half height-built drive ? Pierre ______________________________________________________________________________ Die Besten ihrer Klasse! WEB.DE FreeMail (1,7) und WEB.DE Club (1,9) - bei der Stiftung Warentest - ein Doppelsieg! http://f.web.de/?mc=021184

22 years, 6 months

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CCCP

by nico＠farumdata.dk

I just found a paper "The Soviet Bloc's Unified System of Computers", written by N.C.Davis and S.E.Goodman, published in "computing Surveys, Vol. 10, no.2, Juni 1978" Depending on how many people are interested in this piece of history, I can make up a Word document, including a scan of the tables and figures prevented. Nico

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Price Check on Aisle 5

by cb＠mythtech.net

>Worth is defined by how many people want it. I have several nice >DSSI tape drives and library systems here, which are worth a lot, >but so far, nobody was willing to wheel 'em outta here... so.. their >value currently is (EURO *)NULL. yeah, this is where I am running into a problem. Price Guides are only useful IF you have a buyer. I don't want to hold onto to items I don't want, because a price guide said it is worth $100 if I can't find a buyer for it. BUT, I do want to know that the item is worth $100, because then I might hold it long enough to find a give away home for it (there are always more people willing to take items for free then to pay for them). But on the other hand, if I find something is worth nothing AND I can't find an immediate buyer or taker... then my dumpster will receive it. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

22 years, 6 months

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DSM-11 (Digital Std MUMPS) info needed

by luc＠e2t.be

Fred and all other DSM lovers, First of all a tiny little correction: the name is Luc Vande Velde ;) I 'll contact my ex-colleages to see if if I can find the original DEC manuals. The language reference manuals I have (Mumps or M is an ANSI language and is system independant) To give you a quick start: Once you load the system from tape(image) it will start in baseline mode (=single user)and goes to sysgen. On every question asked you can type ? to get a bit more info. gr. Luc -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: cctalk-admin(a)classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-admin@classiccmp.org]Namens Fred N. van Kempen Verzonden: zondag 14 september 2003 22:09 Aan: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Onderwerp: DSM-11 (Digital Std MUMPS) info needed All, I'm finally done reading Luc VanElst's DSM-11 tapes. We now have working copies of DSM-11 V3.3 and V4.1 available. Does anyone have stuff like documentation, snippets, SPD's, etc with which I can liven up its website pages a bit? Right now, I pretty much know nothing about DSM ... ;-) Thnx, Fred -- Fred N. van Kempen, DEC (Digital Equipment Corporation) Collector/Archivist Visit the VAXlab Project at http://www.pdp11.nl/VAXlab/ Visit the Archives at http://www.pdp11.nl/ Email: waltje(a)pdp11.nl BUSSUM, THE NETHERLANDS / Sunnyvale, CA, USA

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