Okay, just a quick show of hands...
How many of us out there actually use the systems we
have on a fairly regular basis? Personally, all of my
systems are used regularly. For instance, my Toshiba
T1800 has software that can only run at a useful speed
on a 386, my battery of Macs are dedicated astronomy
and graphics machines and I even use an Apple IIgs for
planetarium programming, not counting the Tandy Model
102 that I use as my erstwhile PDA.
Curious,
Rob
=====
Robert Little
Astronomy & Space Educator
Talcott Mountain Science Center
Avon, CT
"I have loved the stars too dearly to be fearful of the night..."
Sarah Williams
"The Old Astronomer to His Pupil"
If people get this, can you please reply to jwest(a)classiccmp.org so I know
it's going out ok.
PLEASE do not reply to the list about getting this email, just send direct
to me.
Thanks
Jay West
Sounds like a "seek" problem to me. If it uses the old Western Digital
floppy controller, you could issue seek instructions pretty easily to
test that. I suppose other controllers might be similar. I'd have to
hit the WD databook for details, but it was something like writing a
track number into one register, then writing the "seek" command into
another, then sitting back and enjoying the whir-click sound of a seek.
Then a "restore" command would get it back to track 0. I've done it
on TRS-80's; not sure if it would be quite so easy under CP/M.
Cautionary note though: the OS probably remembers what track it last
positioned the drive to, and may be confused if you leave it at a
different track. I *think* any attempted read/write would then fail
with a "no such sector found" error, after which the OS would probably
just automatically re-seek & re-try, resulting in no problem. But I
wouldn't bet my last bootable floppy on it.
I've seen a seek mechanism stuck - refused to move until I powered
the thing down, opened it up, & physically slid the head back and forth
along the rails a few times. After which it worked. YMMV, of course.
One other possibility, I've seen (somewhere) a disk format in which
track 0 was always written in single density for compatibility with
older drives, while the rest of the disk could be SD or DD. So an
older system could give the appropriate error message when failing to
read a DD disk (more specific than just "unreadable"). Was that CP/M?
If so, then the problem could be a failure in handling DD data.
And it seems to me CP/M used "$$$" as some kind of temporary file
extension, renaming files to their proper extension at the end of the
operation...? Which would indicate again that the track-0 commands
succeeded, but the other-track commands failed, leaving the disk op
incomplete.
Cheers,
Bill.
> From: "Mike Davis" <mike-cc(a)msdsite.com>
> To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
> Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2003 08:43:53 -0700
> Subject: NEC Drive Problem (CP/M System)
> Reply-To: cctech(a)classiccmp.org
>
> Ok, I have a puzzle that I need help on. I have an NEC Dual 8"
> Drive System. This is a CP/M system. But my drive #2 has a problem.
> Drive #1 works fine.
>
> Symptoms:
>
> Can't boot from drive #2
> Can't read files from drive #2
> Can't write files to drive #2
> CAN get a directory listing from drive #2
> CAN write to FAT, as when trying to copy files
>
> If I try to load files from drive #2, I get a failure with the
> following error: "Bdos Err On B: Bad Sector"
>
> If I try to write files to drive #2, the directory entry is written
> (except that it is TEST.$$$ instead of the correct extension). But
> the data for the file is apparently NOT written. I get the same
> error.
>
> I see attempts to read and write but these always end with the error
> above.
>
> It looks like the write head must be good, as a filename is saved to
> disk. It looks like the read head must be good, as the directory can
> be listed.
>
> Any suggestions as to what could be causing this? Could it have
> something with head movement? Perhaps the directory storage is on a
> track (sector) that can be reached and the others can't? I'm stumped.
>
> Note: I have not actually looked inside to see if the head is moving
> properly (that may be next but I know it does move some.) but I have
> reattached all the connectors to the drive and controller.
>
> SECOND QUESTION:
>
> The drive is an FD1165-A. I can't locate such a drive. But I have
> located an FD1165-FQ. I wonder how compatible the FQ version is with
> the A version. Can parts be exchanged?
Just to ease everyones minds.
My IIgs computers are safe. There was a tremendous response on these when
I said I would be throwing any away that weren't claimed. I had no idea
they were such a popular computer.
As a result, I have reprioritized them to a higher level, and they will
survive the great cleanout. Any that are not claimed will not be thrown
out, but will be made available to others at a future date. It will take
me a while before I have some free time to deal with shipping them, but I
will find a corner to tuck them into until that time.
I just figured I would let everyone know since I got so many emails about
them.
-chris
<http://www.mythtech.net>
On Sep 19, 9:00, Glen Goodwin wrote:
> I'm getting a couple of dozen every day on our AOL account, as well
as a
> ton of "returned mail" notices regarding mail *I* never sent . . .
either
> it's an attempted attack or someone is spoofing our AOL address.
That's because the Sobig-F virus spoofs sender addresses. People who
have your email address somewhere on their Windows machine (not
necessarily in their address book, either!) and have the virus, will
unwittingly be sending our copies of the virus that claim to be from
you --and many ISPs and filter programs don't check the headers
properly.
> > Is there any quick filter I can add to sendmail to thwart their
delivery?
> > This is becoming highly annoying.
> Don't know about that, but I just received a notice from CERT
regarding a
> buffer overflow bug in sendmail, so best beware . . .
That won't affect spam, particularly. The patch has been out for a few
days, actually, and our systems were patched a while ago :-)
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
University of York
I'm being totally bombarded by those damn trojan horse e-mails purporting
to be from Microsoft security, each averaging 150K.
Is anyone else experiencing this? I must've received over 150 today so
far (starting this morning).
Is there any quick filter I can add to sendmail to thwart their delivery?
This is becoming highly annoying.
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Hi Tony,
I was searching for some of the IBM manuals and could not find the same. As
i was searching on the web, i got ur messages from it
http://www.classiccmp.org/pipermail/cctalk/2003-February/017611.html.
Please send me those manual part numbers / form numbers so that i can
contact my local IBM office.
Actually im Looking at the manuals that has been released in 1981. that is
"PC Technical Reference Manual" and other similar ones.
Thanking you in advance
Girish
> From: Vintage Computer Festival <vcf(a)siconic.com>
> To: Classic Computers Mailing List <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
> Subject: OT: Being bombarded by e-mail trojans
> Date: Thursday, September 18, 2003 6:59 PM
>
> I'm being totally bombarded by those damn trojan horse e-mails purporting
> to be from Microsoft security, each averaging 150K.
>
> Is anyone else experiencing this? I must've received over 150 today so
> far (starting this morning).
I'm getting a couple of dozen every day on our AOL account, as well as a
ton of "returned mail" notices regarding mail *I* never sent . . . either
it's an attempted attack or someone is spoofing our AOL address.
> Is there any quick filter I can add to sendmail to thwart their delivery?
> This is becoming highly annoying.
>
> --
>
> Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer
Festival
Don't know about that, but I just received a notice from CERT regarding a
buffer overflow bug in sendmail, so best beware . . .
Glen
0/0
Hi all,
Just for those who are interested, I've recently had my first really good
find. Two Acorn A4 laptops, in good working order, complete with three
batteries, two power supply modules and a set of manuals (Acorn A4 Welcome
Guide, RISC OS 3 manual and Acorn A4 Pocket Reference). One machine seems to
suffer from the infamous "slow-down-and-crash" problem. Strangely enough,
moving the machine up and down a bit seems to get rid of the problem. Go
figure.
All three nicad packs are fried and need rebuilding and aside from a bit of
cosmetic damage (and a bit of stubborn dirt) both machines are in nearly-new
condition. All in, I ended up spending ?80 (including shipping) on the full
set. ANC managed to misdeliver them, though - how the heck they managed to
deliver my parcel to the wrong person and the wrong _street_ I may never
know.
For those who are interested, the A4 is (or rather was) one of Acorn's RISC
computers. It was the first (and last) laptop Acorn designed, unless you
count the "Stork" prototype. The A4 is fitted with 4MB of RAM as standard,
runs Acorn RISC OS 3.1 on an ARM CPU (ARM3 IIRC), 60MB 2.5" IDE hard disc,
3.5" 1.6MB high-density floppy drive and a cute little 16-greyscale backlit
LCD display. In essence, it's an Acorn A5000 in a laptop case with a battery
charger and battery management circuit fitted. A "5th Column" ROM contains a
rudimentary battery meter applet that sits in the icon bar. There's also a
small LCD battery meter next to the power button on the front of the A4. Both
machines are a fairly nice grey colour, the casing appears to be rubberised
metal (probably stronger than ABS plastic).
None of these machines are for sale, nor is it likely that I ever will sell
them - I've been looking for an Acorn A4 for over three years and I don't
intend to let these two leave my sight :-)
Anyway, I think I've said enough for tonight. We now return you to your
regularly scheduled classiccmp-ing and all that :-)
Later.
--
Phil. | Acorn Risc PC600 Mk3, SA202, 64MB, 6GB,
philpem(a)dsl.pipex.com | ViewFinder, Ethernet (Acorn AEH62),
http://www.philpem.dsl.pipex.com/ | 8xCD, framegrabber, Teletext
... Acme Corp: Unlimited credit for disadvantaged coyotes.
I've been trying to netboot a Sun 3/60. It was manuafactured in 88, so
hopefully it qualifies as "Classic".
Anyway, I'd like to get SonOS4.1.1 running, but I don't have any information
on how to get it to netboot. As a first step, I've tried to netboot NetBSD,
but had very little success and no help from the NetBSD mailing list. I've got
rarpd, bootparam and tftpd running on a linux server.
With NetBSD, the sun gets an ip address from rarpd, gets a bootloader from
tftp but then times out:
root on le0
nfs_boot: trying RARP (and RFC/bootparam)
nfs_boot: client_addr=192.0.0.10 (RARP from 192.0.0.1)
nfs_boot: timeout
Has anyone out there got this to work? On either OS?
Regarding RFID tags to organize collections
Our x-ray film printers use the tags in the film magazines to identify the film type.
There is an evaluation kit from TI available that lets you read out the unique long
integer stored in each tag and you can program several other user available locations.
I think if connects to the serial port of a PC.
I have "salvaged" several tags and tested them with our ID badge readers, no response.
Each tag is about 2" by 4" and looks like a chip and antenna printed on clear mylar carrier.
Mike McFadden
I'm in the area near Kansas City, MO. I'm about 130 miles away according to mapquest. I'm willing to help if it can be arranged.
If there were a master list of the stuff and where it's supposed to go then that would be helpful.
I have a few advantages
I work for a hospital and we have lots of packing and boxes left over from computers and biomedical equipment.
I also pick up and drop off stuff at the Surplus Exchange in Kansas City occasionally.
I also have a garage, however I am limited to one of the two bays since my wife's car has to go in.
I have a 17 year old son interested in computers.
I have an oversized ford aerostar van or could borrow a flat bed trailer
I may be able to arrange some time early in October.
The most important thing that I see is that Jim willingly agrees to this and there is not lots of bad feelings involved. I don't want to get in the middle of a bunch of irate people.
Mike McFadden
m m c f a d d e n @ c m h . e d u
On Sep 19, 9:01, Fred N. van Kempen wrote:
> On Thu, 18 Sep 2003, Vintage Computer Festival wrote:
>
> > I'm being totally bombarded by those damn trojan horse e-mails
purporting
> > to be from Microsoft security, each averaging 150K.
> >
> > Is anyone else experiencing this? I must've received over 150
today so
> > far (starting this morning).
> The "New patch" crap? Yes, same here.
My work email account was up to 250 or more by the time I left work
about 20 minutes ago. Our mail server handled about 3500 today, making
it the largest single virus/trojan, by an order of magnitude.
Mailscanner (see http://www.sng.ecs.soton.ac.uk/mailscanner/ if you
don't know about it) is now set to drop them silently.
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
University of York
A company just contacted me and said they have 12,000(!) reel-to-reel
mag-tapes that they want to dump. They are interested in finding people
who want some. I don't believe they want any money, probably just
shipping. They are all used but erased.
If interested then please get back to me in private and I'll pass on the
contact info.
--
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Even though there are several of us subscribed to the Greenkeys List
(for mechanical teletypes), I have forwarded this because of the fan-fold
paper tape (among the other goodies here)
I recently bought several pieces from Tom (from an earlier offering of
his) and it was packed very well, delivered quickly and in perfect shape,
including the 100-pound Model 28 KSR desk-mount. He's a Good Guy to
deal with...
Cheerz
John
---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2003 12:41:47 -0500
From: Tom Kleinschmidt <tomkleinschmidt(a)comcast.net>
To: greenkeys(a)mailman.qth.net
Cc: Tom Kleinschmidt <tomkleinschmidt(a)comcast.net>
Subject: [GreenKeys] Major Cleanout 3
Hi:
A few more pieces of equipment and expansion on paper products.
If you want me to reserve something for you:
1) I need your shipping address in your reply email
2) Copy and Paste the item(s) you want in your reply
Thanks!
5) KL TT-98 family in good shape, these are basically what a M15 would have
become, they have built in loop supplies 2 in good shape for $50 ea, 3 in ok
shape $20 each
8) New type baskets for Kl page printers most still in the military
packaging. $5 each
1) Terminal telegraph TH-22/TG about the size of a toaster. Now outer case
made by Stelma. $10
****Here is the paper: All $1 a roll****
***Paper tape ROLLS 1":
6 rolls) New in wrapper "plastic" tape dark blue Marked " Arvey Computer
Tape R-V-CT. 52H Blue Size 1" x 1000'
14 rolls) buff/ cream/ natural
2 rolls) new in box light blue
3 rolls) green with Arrows and Top marking
8 boxes / 80 rolls) new buff / cream paper tape.
*** Paper tape 1" FANFOLD:
2) Black in box
3) Gray box
*** lots an lots (most in boxes of 10) 11/16" Paper Tape ROLLS
**** Page Printer Roll Paper ****
16) 2 Copy W/ Carbon
3) 3 Copy W/ Carbon
20) 2 Copy No Carbon
13) 4 Copy No Carbon
8) 6 Copy No Carbon
13) 2 Copy Western Union Telex along edge
17) Single Copy Tractor feed!
Plenty Single copy in 12 roll boxes and less
Tom
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He MATT
Please inform from where you have obtained the service manual for this
printer, as I need one to get spare parts numbers for
PIVOT ARM ROLLER and
RIBBON DRIVE ROLLER
Regards
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Jan E Hartmann
Engineer Voice Communication, OTVm
D +45 3247 8463 *
Email: mailto:jeh@naviair.dk
Naviair * Naviair All? 1 * DK 2770 Kastrup * Danmark
T: +45 3247 8000 * F: +45 3247 8817 * naviair(a)naviair.dk * www.naviair.dk
A State enterprise under the Danish Ministry of Transport
Hi all,
Anybody in the UK interested in the following:
A Whitechapel MG-1 Cpu, keyboard/mouse and 17" mono monitor. Since
acquiring the machine it has always been on my todo list so has never been
powered on. There are some manuals that go with it, but nothing really
technical just user guides I think.
An Apollo DN3000 Cpu, keyboard, 19" mono monitor. I have a couple of
ethernet cards plus a color graphics card, none of these are plugged in.
Worked last time it was used but that was probably before the clock
rollover in '97! Agaim some manuals, I think mostly programming ones.
I have quite a lot of Sun kit ranging from 2/120 stuff through to IPX's
covering things like two 4/110's, a 3/60, a 3/50, a 386i, SS1+ etc. If
there is any interest in these then let me know and I can give more
details.
Collection from the Cambridge area would be ideal, but I am quite flexible
because I want to clear out this stuff pretty quickly.
--
Kevan
Decserver 100's are terminal servers for going from terminals that use
3 wires (rcv,xmt, gnd) to ethernet. The connection is for an AUI, which
normally goes to thick-wire ethernet, but can adapt to normal ethernet.
The biggest problem, as I recall, is they only speak LAT, so if you want
to hook up terminals to something that doesn't run DECNET/LAT you have
a tough time. Of course, us VMS guys don't care.
That's what I remember. Anybody else, please correct me if the memory
is wrong...
Joe Heck
There is a 50/50 chance that I will have time tonight to go down to the
datacenter late afternoon/early evening to do the next part of the list
server upgrade. If so, the list server (and the classic computer related
websites it also hosts) would be down hard for at least an hour. After it
comes back up, there will likely be a lot of squirrelyness (is that a word?)
for a few hours afterwards as I find all the little gotchas I forgot to
address.
May not do it tonight, kinda depends on some other variables, but if I DO
get to do it tonight I wanted to let folks know. Damn upgrade is taking time
away from my HP2000 restoration *GRIN*
Jay West
Does anyone have a spare VT220, 320 or 420 that they'd be willing to part
with? My 320 just bit the dust...very inconvenient time, too, since I was
about to install my brand new OpenVMS hobbyist... :(
Failing that, does anyone know how I can interface another kind of terminal
to my MicroVAX 3100? It's got the MMJ connector on it...maybe if I could
send the output to a wyse 60 that I have lying around...
Cheers,
Chris Cureau
Today I was given a Dolch ADD-In computer C-P.A.C. it was a 386DX-33C and
has been upgraded to a 486 it's a cool looking color portable lunchbox. I
also picked up a monorail model 133 that works great but is missing the
stand, keyboard, and mouse. I talked with a guy at the thrift who claims to
have a monorail kb and mouse for these systems and is willing to sale them
to me. I will have to see what he has next week.
Thanks alot Ralph, this is enough information about this machine :)
Paxton, the CMI drives as the 6426S were real crap, you're absolutely right.
A Seagate drive should be ok. 1.2 Meg 5.25 inch drives are easy to find. Thanks to you, too.
Pierre
> Pierre,
>
> Here are 2 links concerning the XT-286.
>
> http://www.uncreativelabs.org/~matt/classic/5162.html
>
> http://safariexamples.informit.com/0789725428/Reference%5Chardware.pdf
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Ralph
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Hello All.
I've been keeping tabs on the complaints regard Jim Willing. I'm also
someone who has items owed to me by Jim.
Unfortunately, I just don't see this situation being resolved by Jim
anytime soon. I consider Jim a friend, and I know that if it was within
his means he would take care of this immediately. I've only known him to
be honorable. However, he seems to be compounding one bad move with
another, and the last thing I want to see is more trouble for Jim that he
just won't be able to handle. As much as it sucks to get stiffed, getting
the police involved or filing lawsuits won't make the situation any
better. Jim apparently just doesn't have the resources to follow through
on his commitments. The economy has ruined a lot of people, and it hit
Jim hard, perhaps harder than most. Keep that in mind.
That being said, I think the best way to go would be as follows: one or
two people who are close to Yates Center, Kansas, should arrange a visit
with Jim. They should bring boxes and packaging materials (tape, foam
peanuts, etc.) Anything that can be packed and shipped should be packed
up with Jim's help. Those packages and the remaining items should then be
loaded into the vehicle and driven off. Jim is no longer in the picture
and he can try to deal with life free from this burden.
The packed items can be taken to the local UPS or Fedex center and sent
off. The rest of the items can be distributed based on specific
arrangements to be decided.
I'm assuming that whatever money Jim received for both the items and
shipping has been spent on bills, so it would be wise to simply write this
off. Those folks who have already paid for shipping have two options:
either send more money for shipping (to the persons who are handling the
pickup) or try to arrange some way for items to be brought to them
through some relay mechanism.
I would also call on Jim to relinquish anything else of value that can be
added to the load when it's picked up. These items can be sold off by a
neutral party and the funds distributed proportionally to those folks who
are owed money for shipping.
I think the best way to coordinate this will be to have everyone who is
owed something write to me, and I'll form a small mailing list so we can
figure everything out.
None of this is to be construed as my acquiring responsibility for this.
I am just trying to find a solution that will remove Jim from the picture
and get everyone their stuff. Everyone will lose from this,
unfortunately. Jim stiffed a lot of people. However, there's no point in
trying to "ruin" Jim. That's already happened. Getting him in trouble
will most likely only guarantee that you'll never get what you paid for.
The best solution at this point is to work together to resolve the issue
in a manner that gets everyone what they are owed.
This is just a suggestion. No one is obligated to adhere to it. Anyone
is free to take their own independent course of action.
That being said, anyone who is interested please e-mail me and I'll
coordinate the effort. But this all rests on having at least two people
near Kansas who can take on the burden of the drive and the effort
required to retrieve the items.
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We run a speech perception lab at Northeastern University with
a microvax II with custom software from haskins labs/yale and also two
11/23 systems again with custom software. I am finally pulling the
plug on the 11/23 systems, but the microvaxes still run.
on the pc side, my eprom programmer runs on a 386, and some of my home
control stuff runs on a 486.
Joe Heck
lower left is console terminal connector, db9, to the right is two digit
display for power-on self test progress, upper left is rotary switch
for baud rate, middle rotary switch is power up mode switch, 3 position,
run mode (arrow), language inquire (human profile) asks for which language
you want, loopback test mode is third mode (with t in the middle) i think
last switch is halt enable/disable, that allows halt button front or break
key on terminal to halt system
joe heck
Hm, that's a good point. You know, I don't know. I have not
seen this thing. It sounded to me like it was something big.
So, may be it is an IBM with some AT&T label on it? I don't
know.
-Gunther
jim wrote:
> what is an at&t mainframe? one they owned, or manufactured?
>
> if it is one of the 3B's it probably wont get me interested, but if it
> is
> an IBM mainframe from a datacenter that is old, I am very interested.
>
> I just have not heard the term "mainframe" applied to any 3B's and
> don't know what else they may have.
>
> if these are switching systems, I assume they are of the 3, 4 or 5ESS
> classes?
>
> Jim
I know the Apple II series used something like 140k single sided floppies.
What is a compatible substitute? Double Sided Double Density? I would
assume side count doesn't matter and in fact DS might be be preferable as
then I can just notch the other side and safely flip the disk.
But what about density? I know in 3.5 disks, you can't safely interchange
DD and HD disks and expect them to work for long. But what about with
5.25 disks? Can I use DD or even HD disks with an Apple II?
Again this is so I make sure I keep a healthy supply of floppies when I
am done cleaning house (I have a case of 5.25 disks also to get rid of,
and they are a mix of DSDD and DSHD).
-chris
<http://www.mythtech.net>
I have a Commodore 600 series B128 (low profile version similar to the
European 610) and I have been trying to diagnose a problem and fix. I do
not have diagnositcs for one of these guys to check the chips
automatically. When I power on the machine, it reports to be READY with
BASIC version 4. I can type one line of code (for example: 10
PRINT"TEST"), but when I hit enter, the cursor disappears and no more
screen IO can be generated. In other words, the cursor does not jump down
to the next line so that I may proceed with another line of code, it just
disappears. If I reset the computer and type "LOAD" at the prompt and then
hit enter, I am not asked to start the tape drive. There is also a return
key associated with the numeric keypad but this does not generate different
results than the Enter key.
I am guessing that I need to replace a chip or two someplace. I would like
to know if any of you have an opinion/suggestions. I have found one
interesting web page, http://www.funet.fi/pub/cbm/firmware/computers/b/
that links to schematics, etc. I am curious if anyone has had a similar
experience with any Commodore of this era. I am sure the cause of the
problem is not unique to the 600 series. Once I have a better idea what
the problem is, I can start replacing the appropriate chips. If I can find
any (!)
Thanks
Bill
Wilmington, Delaware
Hi guys
Does anyone know what the two small switches and two large red LEDs on the
BACK of the ba123's CPU control panel are for?
I'd look at the MV-II/BA123 Tech Man but I can't seem to get to the DFWCUG to
get them...
alex/melt
--
Dance like no-one's watching, sing like no-one can hear you, love like
you've never been hurt, wash like everyone has a nose, eat like
cholesterol is a myth.
The things that some people will believe... enter at your own risk,
however; there is some 'adult' rated stuff on there...
http://www.funny-shit.com/view.php?current_page=pictures&id=1743&download=1
BTW, it's on topic, as the computer in the picture is over 10 years old... ;^>
Laterz,
Roger "Merch" Merchberger
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Roger "Merch" Merchberger --- sysadmin, Iceberg Computers
Recycling is good, right??? Ok, so I'll recycle an old .sig.
If at first you don't succeed, nuclear warhead
disarmament should *not* be your first career choice.
I'm in Metairie, LA, near New Orleans.
David Woyciesjes <dwoyciesjes(a)comcast.net>
Sent by: cctech-admin(a)classiccmp.org
09/12/2003 11:08 AM
Please respond to cctech
To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
cc:
Subject: Re: Needed - VT terminal
Christopher Cureau wrote:
>
> Does anyone have a spare VT220, 320 or 420 that they'd be willing to
part
> with? My 320 just bit the dust...very inconvenient time, too, since I
was
> about to install my brand new OpenVMS hobbyist... :(
>
> Failing that, does anyone know how I can interface another kind of
terminal
> to my MicroVAX 3100? It's got the MMJ connector on it...maybe if I
could
> send the output to a wyse 60 that I have lying around...
>
> Cheers,
> Chris Cureau
Yeah, a VT420... Where are you though?
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>Apple drives are OK with single density or double density disks, and you
>can notch single-sided disks to make them double-sided. The Apple is easy
>when it comes to disks.
Oh good, that makes my life easy. I have a half dozen unopened boxes of
5.25 DSDD floppies. Now I don't have to dig thru or sort all the used
ones.
-chris
<http://www.mythtech.net>
Hello all,
I recently got a copy of Lotus 1-2-3 (on topic! Dates on disks are 1989),
Release 2.2. The disks, and the box the disks were in say "Government
Edition". There is a barcode label on the bottom that says "3.5 Govt
Upgrd", and the disks have a cool logo of the American Eagle, with a floppy
disk over it, and the words "Government Edition".
My question is: Is there any real difference between this and any other 123
R2.2, or is this just fancy labeling?
Thanks!
Rich B.
Is there any reason to keep ROM 01 IIgs units? I have both ROM 01 and ROM
03 units. I know the ROM 03 has advantages over the ROM 01, so given that
I have both, is there a reason to keep a ROM 01? Is there anything a ROM
01 can do or is needed for that can't be done on a ROM 03?
Of course, I am keeping my ROM 00 unit... just because.
-chris
<http://www.mythtech.net>
>Now, if you are realy throwing out ROM 00 or 01 IIgs, I would
>be interested in the boards (including the parts).
I only have one ROM 00 unit, which I am keeping.
I have at least one ROM 01 unit, plus I have 4 or 5 other IIgs units that
I don't know the ROM version.
I also have one ROM 03 complete system which I am keeping.
Although I have no objection to shipping things, I have no time to do it.
And I don't mean that in the sense that I am busy... I mean that in the
sense that I am being evicted from my storage area, and have no where to
move things until they can be shipped.
Monday, everything that isn't claimed this weekend, hits the dumpster. My
Oct 1st deadline was just moved forward to Saturday. I just had to beg
and plead to keep the space until Monday because I have some people lined
up to stop in over the weekend.
If you want to make arrangements with someone that is stopping in, and
have them take things for shipping, that's fine with me
Now I just have to figure out how to get them around the painting that
will be starting on Saturday. Full construction and moving starts
Monday... when the movers show up, all my stuff is being removed and I
can't stop it.
-chris
<http://www.mythtech.net>
> I'm looking fo Jim Willing. I need to talk to him ASAP.
Was there any response to this? I've been trying to reach Jim myself
with no luck.
Erik Klein
www.vintage-computer.com/vcforum
The Vintage Computer Forum
I'm offering a cash bounty for information on rackmounting the HP 2895B
paper tape punch. I have this gorgeous 2895B on a nice sliding tray with
telescoping slides. The telescoping slides then mount to other stationary
rails inside the HP cabinet. This is all standard-issue HP stuff. However, I
can find no way that this drawer will mount to standard HP stationary rails
(L brackets). This means one of two things... either the hardware on the
sides of the tray was put together wrong by the previous owner and I can't
figure out for the life of me how the pieces should be assembled, or, the
2895B rackmount drawer requires special (different) stationary rails inside
the HP rack that I don't have.
The bounty is for information as to either how to correctly rackmount what I
have, or, acquiring the correct stationary rails. I know this sounds picky,
but everything in this particular restoration is completely "authentic", and
I don't want to mess that up with "jerry-rigging" a non-standard mount for
this one item.
The 12926A (the HP part number for the whole 2895B kit, including interface
card, cables, diagnostics, etc.) manual does show the 2895B racked with a
side view. However, this picture shows the punch, drawer, and slides but
does not show how that assembly is bolted to the inside of the HP rack.
As to where to look, the 12926A manual lists another manual which MAY
contain the sought after information. This manual is:
HP 2985B Tape Punch Operating and Service Manual, part number 02895-90008
However, I seem to recall that this manual above only says "For rackmounting
instructions, see the instructions that came with your rackmount kit".
In addition, the actual rack mount kit for the punch is part number
02895-60002 (light grey) or 02895-60003 (moss grey). This kit would surely
have the instructions for assembly in it.
Can anyone help?
Jay West
Here is more about that AT&T mainframe.
> It's a 3B20 mainframe. Probably missing a few things. It was a testbed
> that we used. Hasn't been run in maybe 5 years and may have had some boards
> stolen for orders along the way.
regards,
-Gunther
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It's huge. THIS IS NOT THE ONE I HAVE FO R SALE BUT at least you get the
idea of what I'm talking about.
Seen Attached
----- Original Message -----
From: Gunther Schadow <gunther(a)aurora.regenstrief.org>
To: Joe Moir <PPSJM(a)prodigy.net>
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 11:47 PM
Subject: [Fwd: Re: Anyone interested in an AT&T mainframe?]
> Joe, Sellam Ismail here is interested in the AT&T machine. May
> be I misunderstood and this isn't a big mainframe. May be it's
> an IBM? You can clarify.
>
> thanks
> -Gunther
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I sent a post for this item some time back but haven't seen it on the forum.
Perhaps it got lost.
Anyway I have a complete system - Ibm 5324, keyboard,monitor, 5242 printer
and a stack of manuals and 8" floppies taking up room in my shed.
Does anyone want any of these before I dispose of them - I know Tarsi posted
in June for info but he didn't reply to my email - assuming my email got
there.
Geoff.
Someone just posted 128 issues of Byte from 1977 through 1988 for $250 (a
pretty good deal):
http://marketplace.vintage.org/view.cfm?ad=156
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Ok, now I am on a quest for Uniform for the PC. (to go along with my
compaticard) am looking for different versions :) since the disk support
varied (thanks for reminding me of this guys)
If you happen to have an old x86 laying around (286sx - 486dx), with DOS 5
or earlier, your format command will tell you the types/capacities of
floppies available, and the switches required to format them properly. A
simple chkdsk command run on the FD will tell you what you actually have.
Prior to HD, I don't believe any of the disks were marked with type/size.
However, HD and DD (DSHD 720Kb & DSDD 1.44Mb) are both marked on the disk
housing on the top foreward right corner -- top foreward right as inserted
into the drive -- right next to the spring-loaded media cover. The cover,
itself, may also contain the disk capacity in KB or MB, but that's also
usually found in later model disks...
Cheers...
Ed Tillman
Store Automation Tech Support Specialist
Valero Energy Corporation
San Antonio, Texas, USA
Office: (210)592-3110, Fax (210)592-2048
Email: edward.tillman(a)valero.com <mailto:edward.tillman@valero.com>
-----Original Message-----
From: chris [mailto:cb@mythtech.net]
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 1:32 AM
To: Classic Computers
Subject: Re: Bulk Erase 8" floppies
>A hint : sort the floppies according to density. I would be rather p.....
>if I bought a stack of 20 floppies, believing they were DSDD, and I got
>some SSSD ones.
Is there a way to tell visually if they are DS vs SS? Not all the
floppies have their original factory labels on them any more, and I know
there are some of each.
If not, I'll make 3 groups. DSDD, SSSD, and "Pot Luck"
-chris
<http://www.mythtech.net>
Help! I can't work with any of my gear any more because it's
all in the way! But I really do like it all. Anyway, I will
have to let go of something.
There is that HP 9000 K class machine with Ethernet, FDDI,
dual DDS2 tape drive and RAID disk array, all in a nice setup,
original with HP-UX and an HP term. Not too loud and not
too slow. Nice useable UNIX system. So beautiful, but I don't
know where to put it and be able to do something with it.
Then the DEC 7000. What a beautiful machine! What a nice sound!
It's got plenty of CPU and memory and SCSI and all but still
I can't use it, or if I do I can't work on my VAX 11/780, which
is the main thing I want to do.
I am thinking about selling to recoup some of my costs, but
then, before I sell for a rediculously low price I'd rather
give it away or trade. I still want a VAX 4000 - 700 or 105A
in a pedestal as my last addition to the family. That would be
a trade. If you want some of it, make an offer in $$ or machine
or parts. I still need some PDP-8/A parts, memory, power supply,
or an RA60 drive, or VAX 11/780 cabinet remains (delivered to
my door.) This is not a OBO by next Saturday kind of sale,
but if you are interested you're welcome to make an offer.
I am in Indianapolis.
-Gunther
>A hint : sort the floppies according to density. I would be rather p.....
>if I bought a stack of 20 floppies, believing they were DSDD, and I got
>some SSSD ones.
Is there a way to tell visually if they are DS vs SS? Not all the
floppies have their original factory labels on them any more, and I know
there are some of each.
If not, I'll make 3 groups. DSDD, SSSD, and "Pot Luck"
-chris
<http://www.mythtech.net>
I came across this on eBay and figured there might be some interest in
such a unit here.
The seller does recommend against using the unit for three phase
electronics, but I dunno if he would consider big-iron to be in that
category or not ;)
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2558575867
Not affiliated with seller, etc, etc...
-Toth
Someone just posted a Commodore Plus/4 on the Vintage Computer
Marketplace. Free (just pay shipping).
http://marketplace.vintage.org/view.cfm?ad=157
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