- test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org - classiccmp.org

by cb＠mythtech.net

>speaking of such, anyone got an extra 2600 console? Mine died, and I want to >play river raid pretty badly! There is at least one emulator for the 2600 that I know of. I tend to play all my favorite games that way. Its easier than chewing up space with the 2600 itself (and I have a MUCH bigger collection of game ROMS than I ever had of carts) -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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CGA monitors available for pickup

by cb＠mythtech.net

> You still have any CGA monitors left? I've got a stack of Atari PC-1's >and I'd like to pair them up with some CGA/EGA monitors so I can sell/trade >them more easily with people. Um... sort of. They are in the bottom of the dumpster outside. Its raining pretty heavy right now, and there is garbage and assorted other stuff on top. If you really want one, you are welcome to come dig thru the dumpster. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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AD200 data aquisition card

by t.stevens＠stcs.de

Hello Mr Brown, i just stumbled over your message about having an Infotek AD200 card from May 3 2003 i would be interested if you still have the card and if so, are willing to sell it to us. pls let us know what you think. best regards Theo Stevens -------------------------------------------------- STCS GmbH Neckarstr. 12-14 65239 Hochheim/Main Tel +49 6146 8219-6 Fax +49 6146 8219-99 email t.stevens(a)stcs.de

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Digital Celbris XL5100DP computer

by cb＠mythtech.net

>Is this a native SCSI? >If so I could probably take it. 50-50. It looks like it does have onboard SCSI. At least there is an external SCSI port, so I'm assuming there is probably an internal one as well. If you want it, its yours. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

22 years, 6 months

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Digital Celbris XL5100DP computer

by cb＠mythtech.net

I'm not sure this is really on topic yet, but I know there are a bunch of DEC fans on the list. I have a Digital Celbris XL5100DP computer here. It looks to be a fairly standard Pentium PC, except that its processor daughtercard has room for a 2nd CPU (I'm assuming the DP in the name is Dual Processor). Its currently untested, but I believe that it works (IIRC, the person that gave it to me said it works, I've never done anything with it since I got it) Is this something anyone is interested in? Being that it is dual processor and DEC, I felt I should specifically list it and offer it before I toss it. Its a mini tower case, and weighs about the same as a normal WinTel mini tower PC. I'd rather it be a pickup item, but if there is a DEC fan that *simply has to have it*, I'm sure we can work something out with shipping. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

22 years, 6 months

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Apple IIe 3.5 inch FDD

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

In a message dated 9/23/2003 8:03:15 AM Eastern Daylight Time, r_beaudry(a)hotmail.com writes: << > Is it possibl;e to modify a standard IBM 3.5 inch FDD to > work with the apple?? As other pointed out, no.... > I understand the Apple II uses a > special drive interface, can this be conected up to the 3.5 inch drive > hardware and be used to drive them?? You can't hook up a Disk II or 5.25" controller to a 3.5" disk drive.. However, a 3.5" drive can be used in an Apple IIe (not sure about II, II+). There are two possible combinations: - Apple sold a drive called a UniDisk 3.5. This drive had a processor and buffer memory inside the case to allow it to buffer and effectively slow down the data transfer rate to the point where the Apple IIe could handle it. You still need to get a special controller card (often referred to as a "LIRON" card, because the word was silkscreened on the card). >> There was also a controller card called the UDC made by Laser computer (IIRC) that could run various combinations of 5.25 and 3.5 drives. Shouldve got one back then.

22 years, 6 months

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Dual-Processor PCI/MCA PC's

by vance＠neurotica.com

Anyone want these two dual-processor Pentium PCI/MCA servers I have here? They have some sort of TP ethernet on the motherboard, and they have some form of wide SCSI, along with hotswap drive cages, and I have a full load of trays for them. All in all, pretty nice systems. They are IBM PC Server 320's (8640-MDV). There's still reference disk and BIOS downloads available for them on ftp.pc.ibm.com. I'd hate to see these go to waste, but I need the space. If you feel like throwing a couple of dollars at me for them, it would be appreciated, as I am out of work right now, but it is not required nor expected. Peace... Sridhar

22 years, 6 months

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V5.01A Distribution of RT-11

by jhfinexgs2＠compsys.to

Does anyone have access to V5.01A of RT-11? I would prefer the RL02 image which has a Volume ID / Owner of: BC-P607C-BC RL2 1/1 However, any other media would be great if the RL02 image is not available! I already have V5.00, V5.01, V5.01C (V5.01B does not exist) and V5.02 of RT-11. So it is ONLY V5.01A of RT-11 that I do not have. Sincerely yours, Jerome Fine -- If you attempted to send a reply and the original e-mail address has been discontinued due a high volume of junk e-mail, then the semi-permanent e-mail address can be obtained by replacing the four characters preceding the 'at' with the four digits of the current year.

22 years, 6 months

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Old Computer Usage

by n8uhn＠yahoo.com

My Ibm ps/2 286 desktop and gateway 2000 486 laptop are used on a regular basis to program motorola two way radios and plc's. the laptop is used in the field also. alot of the early plc's (programable logic controller) and programable radios (from ge and motorola) use software from the pre 486 era and cannot run on a pc faster then a 486 - some won't run on anything faster the a 386. the i/o and proc speed on a 486 and up is just too fast for the software and the "slowdown" software that put's the cpu into a time wasting loop causes even more prob's. i also dust off the ibm pc/xt every now and then to play all the early games and game clones that wont run on anything faster in it's orignal release. Bill Message: 4 Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 21:45:10 -0700 From: Bryan Blackburn <oldcomp(a)cox.net> Subject: Re: Old Computer Usage To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Message-ID: <3F6BDB56.8070004(a)cox.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed My Mark 8 and Kim-1 computers run 24/7 doing fun stuff, and I have a Digital Group computer that I use for games and a little programming. My 286 AT clone does chip programming. -Bryan Robert Little wrote: > Okay, just a quick show of hands... > How many of us out there actually use the systems we > have on a fairly regular basis? Personally, all of my > systems are used regularly. For instance, my Toshiba > T1800 has software that can only run at a useful speed > on a 386, my battery of Macs are dedicated astronomy > and graphics machines and I even use an Apple IIgs for > planetarium programming, not counting the Tandy Model > 102 that I use as my erstwhile PDA. > Curious, > > Rob > > ===== > Robert Little > Astronomy & Space Educator > Talcott Mountain Science Center > Avon, CT > > "I have loved the stars too dearly to be fearful of the night..." > Sarah Williams > "The Old Astronomer to His Pupil" > ------------------------------ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com

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Suggestions On A PDP-12 Hunt?

by ohh＠drizzle.com

Hi, all. So it's like this: I've decided, for reasons which even I don't quite understand, that I should find a computer to restore to keep my old PDP-8/I from getting lonely, and (to keep things complicated) that the new machine should be a PDP-12. It's not _quite_ as involved as searching for the Holy Grail, but they're certainly not common. :) I've been going (by phone and e-mail) to check in a lot of the usual places - electronic surplus stores, university surplus, and so forth - and have also started checking around with neurologists and neurology departments, since I gather the -12s were popular choices in neurological research. So far I've had a few good-sounding leads which haven't gone anywhere useful. But it's still early in the search. I'm open to suggestions. :) Anyone have any good ideas, leads or recommendations on where else to look? (It need not be a working one, since I'm planning to restore it anyway.) (O'course, if anyone has a PDP-12 they're willing to consider parting with, I'd certainly be amenable to discussing it... <grin!>) Suggestions? -O.-

22 years, 6 months

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Prototype Commodore 64 up for auction

by vcf＠siconic.com

I got sick of auctioning off Apple-1's so I thought I'd come up with something else equally as interesting :) Check out this prototype Commodore 64 auction: http://www.vintage.org/special/2003/c64prototype/ -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org [ Old computing resources for business || Buy/Sell/Trade Vintage Computers ] [ and academia at www.VintageTech.com || at http://marketplace.vintage.org ]

22 years, 6 months

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Reviving and connecting an ASR33

by ian_primus＠yahoo.com

Yesterday, I got an ASR33 teletype machine. So far, I have cleaned it a little, checked that everything seems to be oiled well, and fired it up. It seems to work well. All the characters print, and the type seems clear, although I need to clean the type assembly. The rubber hammer is still intact, but it is very soft, almost like a blob of silly putty. It held up well enough for testing, but I will soon replace that with a rubber foot as someone else on the list suggested. The tape punch seems to work fine too, I don't have any paper tape, so I trimmed some computer paper into strips for testing. I am having a couple of problems with it though: The paper tape reader doesn't seem to work. There is also a good chance that I don't know how to operate the paper tape reader... I punched a strip of paper with a string of text, then put it into the reader, and threw the switch next to the reader into the "Start" position. The teletype makes a lot of rattleing, but the tape doesn't run through the reader, and nothing prints. Some of the keys are cracked. A couple of the keytops have cracked out >from the lettering, most notably the "Break" key, which gets stuck down because it is now slightly wider. The space bar sticks a little, and occasionally gets stuck down. Not far enough to jam, but far enough that hitting it again won't make a space, but typing other keys seems to jiggle it loose. It's like the spring or whatever recoil mechanism is loose or broken. The paper advance knob is cracked. I think I can glue it, but otherwise I will need to track down another. The cover is cracked, but that isn't really a big deal. I should be able to glue it back together. What type of glue is recommended for teletype plastic? Just regular wacky glue, or some sort of epoxy? The paper tape punch has quite a buildup of chad above the punch. It doesn't seem to be going down into the black tube at all. Is this normal? Also, what can I do about the chad, since I don't have the stand. I have the chad box, but I can't really attach it without the stand. I'll probably end up building something for it, or maybe propping it up with some blocks of wood so I can fit something under there, but weren't there desk models of the ASR33? What did they do with the chad? I also have some general teletype questions: What can I use for tape? I have access to a very powerful paper cutter, the kind that can cut a ream of paper cleanly in half. Can I just take some junk fanfold computer paper and cut it into strips? I know that some paper tape was fanfold like that, but I don't know if the perforations would tear apart too easily or not Likewise, what can I use for paper? Right now, I have just been loading single sheets of computer paper in, but I should just be able to remove the tractor holes from fanfold computer paper and run that through, right? Is the teletype capable of moving back a space? "Rubout" doesn't move the print head back, but I don't know if it should. I know the teletype can't erase, but I don't know if it can move backward. Where should I oil the mechanism? Right now, everything looks OK, but I should probably lubricate it someplace periodically, right? Similarly, what sort of oil should I use? Just regular household oil, or something lighter/heavier? Obviously not WD-40, however... What's the best way to clean the type cylinder? It is pretty dirty, but I am almost afraid to take it off to clean it, lest I get it on crooked or backward. I know I have cleaned the type bars on typewriters by just using an old toothbrush and some toothpicks to get the gunk out of the "O", etc. I would assume the same principle applies here, too. The platten is pretty hard. It works, but is there a way of replacing it, or maybe a way of reviving the rubber? I have heard of people reviving the plattens on old typewriters with some method. It's probably more trouble that it's worth, but I would like to hear what people have to say. And, of course, the inevitable question, how do I connect it to something? It has a cable fitted to it which I understand should be a current loop interface. It is a funny little six pin rectangular connector. I have found information on how to connect current loop to RS-232, but what pin does what? Was there a standard? I would very much like to be able to plug the teletype into a UNIX box or something, or maybe the Prime, but for any of those, I would need RS-232. Also, since the teletype can only print upper case, how does it render incoming text? Does it just ignore all lowercase characters, or does it print them uppercase? Does it send all uppercase or all lowercase? I have a Teleray terminal that renders all lowercase characters as uppercase, and uppercase as weird symbols, so I'm not sure what the teletype does. Thanks in advance! Ian Primus ian_primus(a)yahoo.com

22 years, 6 months

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Atari 2600 for $600

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

In a message dated 9/22/2003 6:37:41 PM Eastern Daylight Time, musicman38(a)comcast.net writes: I bet if I dug through all my old Atari 2600 stuff, I could easly come up with 100 different cartridges. I used to buy these at yard sales everytime I saw then cheep. My last find at a yard sale was a mint 2600 still in the original box, and about 25 Carts all for $5.. He He !! speaking of such, anyone got an extra 2600 console? Mine died, and I want to play river raid pretty badly!

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Darnit! UDA50 problem.

by gunther＠aurora.regenstrief.org

I wish the classiccmp archives were back online for in 1997 Daniel A. Seagraves has similar issues. My VAX 11/780 still hasn't booted, I just can't seem to be able to close the loop to proper UDA50 use. Today I checked the UNIBUS backplane NPG wiring and I found that the CA1-CA2 jumper was under slot 2,3,4,6 and 8 while there was no such jumper under slot 5. Since the first 4 slots were all full with those standard printer and serial interface I left those alone and placed M7485 in slot 5 and M7486 in slot 6. Before I had it reversed. My UDA50 user guide seems to imply that the usual arrangement is first M7486 and the M7485, however, this is not stated in writing (only in pictures.) What is stated in writing is that the M7485 absolutely must have that NPG jumper removed whereas for M7486 it didn't matter. They go on saying that if NPG jumper is removed for both slots, then the two cards can be swapped into either order. I concluded that I could swap them as long as M7485 has the NPG jumper removed, hence I could make that arrangement without having to actually cut a wire on the backplane. Both cards now show the idle cycling-pattern, no errors, but also no reaction to the host computer when I try to make it boot. I guess now the question is: is any of my assumptions wrong about the ordering of the two UDA50 modules? And: did I set the right UNIBUS address and does my DUABOO.CMD file actually use that same address. Is there any simple way of manually testing the UNIBUS address by DEPOSITing some machine program to read out some UNIBUS register so that I can scan the bus to check the right address rather than having to rely on me making no mistakes? thanks, -Gunther

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[TCA] 4AP1 specs? (fwd)

by aw288＠osfn.org

For those interested... ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 21:30:10 -0700 From: Ludwell Sibley <t*belore(a)internetcds.com> To: tubecollectorsassociation(a)yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [TCA] 4AP1 specs? William Donzelli wrote: >I have a request for specs for the 4AP1 CRT. Certainly an oddball. > >Help? > >William Donzelli >aw288(a)osfn.org > > >Visit the TCA web page at: http://www.tubecollectors.org >Visit the TCA YahooGroups page at: >http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tubecollectorsassociation/ > >To Post a message: tubecollectorsassociation(a)yahoogroups.com >To Subscribe: tubecollectorsassociation-subscribe(a)yahoogroups.com >To Unsubscribe: tubecollectorsassociation-unsubscribe(a)yahoogroups.com > > >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > Yo - I have a data sheet, apparently a typed copy of an RCA 8-1/2" x 11" data sheet, on the 4AP10 Skiatron (dark-trace) radar version. The dirt is as follows: Heater 6.3 V @ 0.6 A Mag focus and 40-degree mag deflection Length 14-1/4" overall Anode voltage 9900 max., 8000 min., 9000 typical G2 voltage 500 max, 250 min., 300 typical G1 0 V to -125 V; cutoff to 2 microamps occurs at -45 V Heater-cathode voltage 125 V max Pinout per EIA is 5AN: H - 2 & 8 K - 7 G1 - 5 G2 - 3 Anode - Cap The electron gun is reportedly capable of an unusually fine spot. Lud ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> KnowledgeStorm has over 22,000 B2B technology solutions. The most comprehensive IT buyers' information available. Research, compare, decide. E-Commerce | Application Dev | Accounting-Finance | Healthcare | Project Mgt | Sales-Marketing | More http://us.click.yahoo.com/IMai8D/UYQGAA/cIoLAA/pFfwlB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Visit the TCA web page at: http://www.tubecollectors.org Visit the TCA YahooGroups page at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tubecollectorsassociation/ To Post a message: tubecollectorsassociation(a)yahoogroups.com To Subscribe: tubecollectorsassociation-subscribe(a)yahoogroups.com To Unsubscribe: tubecollectorsassociation-unsubscribe(a)yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

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Atari 2600 for $600

by jrkeys＠concentric.net

Check it out! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2753252186

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CGA monitors available for pickup

by cb＠mythtech.net

I've got a few CGA monitors here that are available if anyone wants to come pick them up. Northern NJ, (Ridgewood, 07450). Last I knew, they worked (there are at least 4, maybe more). -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

22 years, 6 months

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Disposing of a Collection

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

Does anyone here have any advice on how to go about disposing of a computer collection? The time is well past for me to get serious about it. I want to keep a lot of my DEC gear, but even some of the VMS and PDP-11 related stuff will be going. I don't have time to do anything with most of the stuff I've got, and it's become an anchor around my neck. Ideally I'd like to recover some of the money I've got into the collection, as I've sunk a LOT of money over the past few years into it. One obvious solution is selling the stuff on eBay, but that would take a lot more time than I have. Another would be to call a scrapper that I know, but that doesn't get recover any of the money that I've got into stuff. Ideally I'd like to find someone that would be interested in buying the collection off of me. Zane -- -- | Zane H. Healy | UNIX Systems Administrator | | healyzh(a)aracnet.com (primary) | OpenVMS Enthusiast | | | Classic Computer Collector | +----------------------------------+----------------------------+ | Empire of the Petal Throne and Traveller Role Playing, | | PDP-10 Emulation and Zane's Computer Museum. | | http://www.aracnet.com/~healyzh/ |

22 years, 6 months

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Heathkit Audio Anlyzer

by raymondsmith＠telus.net

Hi, I came across your questions on the web! I am looking for a manual, or at least the Operators section - anychance you have scanned copy? The model is AA-1. Regards, Ray

22 years, 6 months

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Digital Celbris XL5100DP computer

by cb＠mythtech.net

> I would say yes, but since that's probably only a Pentium 100, my >Prioris 5100 HX MP/4 beats that. Double the (possible) CPU, and twice as >wide. :) Yes, it may be a P100. IIRC, when I was given it, I was told it was a dual 100 MHz Pentium Pro. However, when I checked just before there is only one chip in it, and although I myself have not checked, Sridhar looked at it when taking other stuff over the weekend and said it was not a Pentium Pro chip (maybe he remembers what the speed was). BTW: Dave, I have your tape decks, plus the 2nd matching Sony (so 3 decks total), plus I'm going to test one of the 13" TV/VCR's for you and bring you one with a working TV (none have working VCRs). Looks like I'll be bringing the stuff up some time in Oct... the wife wants to hit Mystic Seaport, and when I was talking about it in front of my brother, he wants to take his kids as well... so it will be a day trip and I'll just swing by to hand you the stuff. (and yes, the 2nd paragraph should be off-list, but I'm too damn lazy to start a different email) -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

22 years, 6 months

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Reviving and connecting an ASR33

by Robert_Feldman＠jdedwards.com

>> For ABS plastics, a Methylene Chloride based solvent works very very well. >> (It does not work very well for ABS+PC blends, however. I seriously doubt >> you have any ABS+PC in the ARS33 though, since it is a pretty modern >> plastic.) >I repaired mine with MEK. I believe Tenax 7R (which Robert Feldman >mentioned) is based on acetone, so it should be fairly similar. >-- >Pete Peter Turnbull > Network Manager > University of York I checked the MSDS online, and it's Methylene Chloride. Bob

22 years, 6 months

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Research Machines network?

by julesrichardsonuk＠yahoo.co.uk

Hi, I don't suppose anybody happens to know the right value of terminating resistors to use on a Research Machines network? I was thinking of doing a health check on my old 480Z fileserver, but can't remember what values I used last time. I'm almost certain they were 50 ohm, but it'd be nice to know for sure. cheers Jules ===== Backward conditioning: putting saliva in a dog's mouth in an attempt to make a bell ring. ________________________________________________________________________ Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! Messenger http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com/

22 years, 6 months

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Old Computer Usage

by dzubint＠vcn.bc.ca

On Thu Sep 18 14:49:22 2003, Robert Little wrote: > Okay, just a quick show of hands... > How many of us out there actually use the systems we > have on a fairly regular basis? Personally, all of my ... (Sorry, I'm a bit late to this thread) This might be stretching the definition of "Old Computer", but... I use my 1978-era TI-57 programmable calculator daily and when I'm stressed out, I still pull out my circa-1989 GameBoy with Tetris or I head to my basement and plug in the Mattel Intellivision for a game or two. My 1989/1990 VAXen get regular use surfing the 'net (I use the Lynx text browser...I'm a die-hard text/command line guy) (although my VAX consoles are fairly new '386 laptops running MS-Kermit) Thomas Dzubin

22 years, 6 months

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Reviving and connecting an ASR33

by Robert_Feldman＠jdedwards.com

For styrene, butyrate, and ABS (and the plastics in HP -- at least calculators and 95/200LX -- and grey Toshiba laptop cases), try Tenax 7R, available at well-supplied hobby shops or mailorder from Micro-Mark (www.micromark.com). It's a water-thin solvent. For wider cracks, you can disolve some plastic in a small amount of solvent and flow that into the crack. -----Original Message----- From: Tothwolf [mailto:tothwolf@concentric.net] Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 3:14 AM To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Subject: Re: Reviving and connecting an ASR33 <snip> Plastic model cement is pretty much useless these days, as they have removed nearly all of the solvent type chemicals from the product. <snip>

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VAX 11/780 is getting ready to run, UDA50 diagnostics, how?

by gunther＠aurora.regenstrief.org

Hi, with great pleasure I can announce that I have my VAX 11/780 almost running. If you search the archives you will recall that I got an error in the microdiagnostics at test 54. If I had only paid attention to what someone had written on the label of the micro diagnostics floppy label: "remove ethernet card or test 54 will fail!". With that card removed, the test succeeded. The basic CPU diagnostics fails since last winter though (failing module: M8230) but other tests are still passing, so I expect I can replace that module later. >From my selfmade DUABOO file the machine does run for a moment but then hangs during the boot and the disk is never accessed. My UDA50 card actually does something: the LED cycling pattern stops and the other LED set signals that it's stuck in phase 3 of something. But hey, that is good news, since it means that the boot process actually talks to the UDA50 on the UNIBUS!!!! Tonight I'm going to check the UNIBUS wiring in section C, where that special bridge needs to be interrupted. This could explain why the UDA50 isn't functioning properly. Now some question to you veterans: I actually have a UDA50 diagnostics floppy and also a DIAG SUPERVISOR floppy. Yet I don't know how to run any of those. Don't even know how to look at the directory of those floppies, because @DIR is a command file that is only on the console floppy. So, how is this diagnostics started? I even have a second RX01 floppy drive installed, just don't know how to use it with the console program (I guess I would like to make myself some copies of the critical floppies before bitrot sets in.) Finally, since I now have the 11/785 board set and KA785 backplane complete, does anyone have the console and diagnostics floppies for the 11/785? thanks,, -Gunther

22 years, 6 months

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3Com EtherLink/MC

by cb＠mythtech.net

Was someone on this list looking for a 3Com EtherLink/MC card? Its an MCA bus Ethernet card with BNC and AUI connectors. I have one. I'm taking offers for it (all offers must be at least $1.00 plus shipping). -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

22 years, 6 months

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Reviving and connecting an ASR33

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Sep 22, 3:14, Tothwolf wrote: > On Sun, 21 Sep 2003, Ian Primus wrote: > > > The cover is cracked, but that isn't really a big deal. I should be able > > to glue it back together. What type of glue is recommended for teletype > > plastic? Just regular wacky glue, or some sort of epoxy? > > For ABS plastics, a Methylene Chloride based solvent works very very well. > (It does not work very well for ABS+PC blends, however. I seriously doubt > you have any ABS+PC in the ARS33 though, since it is a pretty modern > plastic.) I repaired mine with MEK. I believe Tenax 7R (which Robert Feldman mentioned) is based on acetone, so it should be fairly similar. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

22 years, 6 months

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ISO: Cheap/Free rack cabinet

by cb＠mythtech.net

Anyone in the NJ area have a spare rack cabinet they want to part with for cheap or free? I have to consolidate three different groups of servers all into one closet, and I think a rack cabinet may make my life easiest. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

22 years, 6 months

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FS: NorthStar Software

by RMaxwell＠atlantissi.com

Chris and Joe: I would like to express my interest in the NorthStar software, with this added little problem: the Horizon I have (free from a ham fleamarket) came with very little: no drives, one bootable disk, original owner's binder and some ACCPAC documentation. The drives were no problem, since the hardware accepted PC-leftover drives without issue. The bootable 5-1/4" floppy I carefully stored in such a safe place I can't find it anymore. I presume it's NDOS - I know it's not CP/M. I'm running Word- and CalcStar on my Kaypro, and I'm presuming that the -Stars you folks have are also CP/M applications... So a bootable N*CP/M disk would be essential to let me get the olde beast back on its feet/wheels/whatever. I'm located in Southern Ontario, Canada (Toronto region), and I'm willing to finance travel arrangements for disks and books - they're probably lighter than the computer itself! Let me know if you can help me out. If not, anybody local interested in a used NorthStar Horizon? I'm already running: Osborne-1 (not doing much since it was the Vancouver TurboBBS 1984-86), Kaypro 2-84 (general purpose terminal, floppy format converter and Ladder game), OSI Superboard (6502 development base for homebrew box), Amstrad PPC512 (packet radio terminal), 6502 homebrew (house watcher, soon to learn X-10), Sharp PC-1211 (BASIC calculator), Macintosh (another free box, previous owner wiped everything, including Netscape) and two '486 PeeCees... (I don't have spare room for non-working boxen :-) Regards, Bob > Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2003 18:23:03 -0400 > From: chris <cb(a)mythtech.net> > Subject: FS: NorthStar Software > > I found a black boxed set of NorthStar software. The box it marked > InfoStar System, with three binders in it, DataStar, ReportStar, and > ReportStar Reference Manual. > > It appears to be complete, manuals and software. I'm guessing > it is some > kind of database and reporting system. I don't know exactly > what it is as > it has been years since I've even had a NorthStar computer. > > Its available if anyone wants it. Just send me any offer over > the cost of > shipping (must be higher than shipping cost... basically, I've got no > spare time to do things for free). > > If it doesn't sell here, I'll try it on ebay, and then it goes to the > dumpster. > > -chris > <http://www.mythtech.net> > > > Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2003 18:38:41 -0400 > From: Joe <rigdonj(a)cfl.rr.com> > Subject: Re: FS: NorthStar Software > >... > These are companion products to WordStar. They use wordstar > files and are > used for keeping databases and generating reports. There are > a couple of > othe related products; Mail-Merge and CalcStar (IIRC). > > Keep in mind that these are HARD SECTORED floppy disks! I > don't think > they're readable on any system except those that have a NS > disk system. > > I have a couple of NIB NS WordStar packages around here > somewhere. If no > one else wants them I'll add these to the collection. > > Joe > > >

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Kennedy 9610 manual needed (fwd)

by vcf＠siconic.com

Can anyone help this guy out? See below. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 19:11:28 +0100 From: "Davis, Duane -Gil" <Duane.Davis(a)itt.com> To: Vintage Computer Festival <vcf(a)siconic.com> Subject: RE: Kennedy 9610 manual Hi, Thank you for your quick response. I need the manual yesterday. Actually, I have a tape drive that I don't know if the drive is bad, or I have a BIG batch of bad tapes. There are buttons on the front of the drive that are for diagnostics, but I don't know how to run them. Again, thank you for the quick response. Duane Davis -----Original Message----- From: Vintage Computer Festival [mailto:vcf@siconic.com] Sent: Friday, September 19, 2003 11:03 AM To: Davis, Duane -Gil Subject: Re: Kennedy 9610 manual On Fri, 19 Sep 2003, Davis, Duane -Gil wrote: > I am trying to locate a manual for a Kennedy 9610 tape drive, hopefully in > pdf format. Hi Duane. I'm sorry but I don't have anything handy. I'm pretty sure I have this manual but it's tucked away in one of hundreds of boxes (I'm still unpacking after a move). How urgently do you need it? -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org [ Old computing resources for business || Buy/Sell/Trade Vintage Computers ] [ and academia at www.VintageTech.com || at http://marketplace.vintage.org ]

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DEC Server

by dave＠mitton.com

On 9/19/2003 10:17 AM -0500, cctech-request(a)classiccmp.org wrote: >From: "Antonio Carlini" <arcarlini(a)iee.org> >To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> >Subject: RE: DEC Server >Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2003 19:15:40 +0100 > > > Also, they used RSX taskbuilder images. Guess they were > > using an 68K cross-assembler setup then.... > >IIRC the last stage of producing a downloadable image for >the various DEMSA images involved sticking a header on >the front which the code referred to as RSX-style or some such. ... old random neurons fired and spat... That may have been for the benefit of the host server's MOP process. It already knew how to download DEC binary files, and someone figured out how to put the new 68K image in the same file format. Dave (a former LKG digit, but not on terminal server team). (this is not what I came to this list to remember...)

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OT: Need HP PhotoSmart 215 driver CD

by vp＠mcs.drexel.edu

Megan <mbg(a)TheWorld.com> wrote: > So, I had to spend more money (only $18, but it is the principle of the > thing) to get what they call the 'quickrestore' CD set. Its too late now for my advice, but here it is for future reference. Whenever I buy a PC I check to see if I can perform a full restore >from the supplied CDs, if I cannot, I call customer support and tell them that the initial install (which happens when you first power up your new PC) failed and can I please have the CDs. If they ask for money, I tell them that I will rather return the entire PC for a refund since I have just purchased it and it is defective. Up till now HP, Compaq and IBM have sent me the CDs for free (IBM in particular sent me the CDs the following morning). BTW Dell sends the correct CDs with the machine. > (here's another gripe -- the 'from factory' condition requires the W/ME > partition to be most of the disk [...] Other install programs allocate the ENTIRE disk to Windows. I use Partition Magic to fix this stupidity. **vp

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Reviving and connecting an ASR33

by aek＠spies.com

> What can I use for tape? oiled paper tape is still available from companies selling numerical control supplies. I'd bought from western numerical controls before: http://www.westnc.com/paptape.html

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Model 100 Disk/Video Interface CAT NO 26-3806

by TheLimey＠aol.com

I have the above item available for sale with the complete computer and software on ebay. The link is http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3432374645

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FS: NorthStar Software

by cb＠mythtech.net

I found a black boxed set of NorthStar software. The box it marked InfoStar System, with three binders in it, DataStar, ReportStar, and ReportStar Reference Manual. It appears to be complete, manuals and software. I'm guessing it is some kind of database and reporting system. I don't know exactly what it is as it has been years since I've even had a NorthStar computer. Its available if anyone wants it. Just send me any offer over the cost of shipping (must be higher than shipping cost... basically, I've got no spare time to do things for free). If it doesn't sell here, I'll try it on ebay, and then it goes to the dumpster. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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hp 5036a TRAINER

by adiez＠dartec.com

Hello, Do you still have this HP microprocessor trainer ? I am interested in learning basic microprocessors and would be interested in purchasing it. I think I can get a Sinclair ZX-80 from a friend, if that is what you absolutely want. Regards, Angel

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More new toys!

by Lee.Davison＠merlincommunications.com

Yet another Commodore calculator for exactly the right price. This time it's a 796M mint in box (not even dusty) and working fully. Just the basic four function, % and memory but in black with 'chrome' highlight on the C= logo and the word Commodore. That's three so far this year for a total of $0.00 8^)= Lee. ________________________________________________________________________ This e-mail has been scanned for all viruses by Star Internet. The service is powered by MessageLabs. For more information on a proactive anti-virus service working around the clock, around the globe, visit: http://www.star.net.uk ________________________________________________________________________

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OT: Need HP PhotoSmart 215 driver CD

by mbg＠TheWorld.com

>In this day and age, it's really lame when a company requires you to >order a CD to get your hands on the drivers you need because of >"licensing restrictions". It's even more lame when you try to enter your >ZIP code to order the CD and the website comes back telling you that >you've entered and invalid ZIP code (for any ZIP code entered). No kidding... my windows machine (the only machine I have running windows) recently ate itself and got so corrupted that I could no longer boot. I have backups of my own stuff, but needed to re-install W/ME. I pulled out the Recovery CD and booted it, expecting it to do something. Lo and behold it did nothing. I tried it several times, no joy. I called up Compaq (HP) support about it and ultimately found out that the recovery CD requires a partition on the machine to be usable (I knew it was there and had never touched it myself, but apparently it was too corrupted for the Recovery CD to use). I was totally blown away by the fact that I have a valid license for W/ME, but due to some lame decisions on either Compaq's part, or requirements for M$, no copy of Windows on a CD comes with my machine. So, I had to spend more money (only $18, but it is the principle of the thing) to get what they call the 'quickrestore' CD set. So I get that, and use it to restore the disk to from-factory condition (here's another gripe -- the 'from factory' condition requires the W/ME partition to be most of the disk, with the 2nd partition being an extended partition into which some recovery files are placed. Since it forces this and apparently checks for it, I don't see a way of partitioning the disk such that I can also have Linux). ... where was I ... Oh yeah... now the machine is in 'from-factory' condition, and I have to go through the welcome and setup screens to get to use it. But, the welcome screen doesn't display properly. Parts of it overlay other parts in such a way that I cannot read questions, find buttons to be clicked on, or field names to fill in a registration form. I remember this happening when I first got the machine, and a call to customer support eventually solved it, but since it is several years out of warrantee now, I cannot go that route (without paying for another year's support). I've been using the email support option, but so far all the suggestions (from a support center in India) have not resolved the problem. In fact, they have done little more than suggest I do the same things I've already done... I'm up to 'quick-restoring' the machine 5 times now. Personally, I'd like to see all companies who play such games be the target of a class action suit which would require them to supply to all original purchasers of computer systems true copies of the software which was 'factory installed', and for which the customer supposedly has a license. And if M$ has had anything to do with making them do it, then they should be included in the suit. Megan Gentry Former RT-11 Developer +--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+ | Megan Gentry, EMT/B, PP-ASEL | email: mbg at world.std.com | | Member of Technical Staff | megan at savaje.com | | SavaJe Technologies, Inc. | (s/ at /@/) | | 100 Apollo Drive | URL: http://world.std.com/~mbg/ | | Chelmsford, MA 01824 | "pdp-11 programmer - some assembler | | (978) 256 6521 (DEC '77-'98) | required." - mbg KB1FCA | +--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+

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OT: Need HP PhotoSmart 215 driver CD

by vcf＠siconic.com

Stupid, stupid, stupid. In this day and age, it's really lame when a company requires you to order a CD to get your hands on the drivers you need because of "licensing restrictions". It's even more lame when you try to enter your ZIP code to order the CD and the website comes back telling you that you've entered and invalid ZIP code (for any ZIP code entered). HP, I fart in your general direction. That being said, does ANYONE have the driver CD for the HP PhotoSmart 215? If so, please contact me. I haven't had any luck finding anything relevant on the web. -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org [ Old computing resources for business || Buy/Sell/Trade Vintage Computers ] [ and academia at www.VintageTech.com || at http://marketplace.vintage.org ]

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ACW and user ports

by ard＠p850ug1.demon.co.uk

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SEL Lo2000 teleprinter ?

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

Found one of these today. Can anyone tell me about this teleprinter? I found DF3OE'S TELEPRINTER MUSEUM at <www.teleprinter.net/> and it seems to have a lot of information about it but IE locks up EVERYTIME that I connect to his site. Joe

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OT: Being bombarded by e-mail trojans

by Robert_Feldman＠jdedwards.com

More on Verisign: They have embed a cookie-placing "web bug" in their page that can relay back info http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/32926.html -----Original Message----- From: J.C. Wren [mailto:jcwren@jcwren.com] Sent: Friday, September 19, 2003 1:57 PM To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org; Vintage Computer Festival Subject: Re: OT: Being bombarded by e-mail trojans http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/09/19/039214 Already starting to happen. --John On Friday 19 September 2003 14:30 pm, Vintage Computer Festival wrote: > On Fri, 19 Sep 2003, J.C. Wren wrote: > > You realize this is mostly likely because of the way Verisign is > > violating the RFCs, and screwing over the 'net? Those people need to be > > put out of business. > > God damn it. I'm ready to sue. I think I have an actionable claim > against them (as does everyone else who is trying to run a business). > This is really slowing me down.

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current status

by jwest＠classiccmp.org

Geeze, the upgrade was certainly more painful than I expected. There were definitely a few gotcha's that weren't really documented. It would appear that a lot of list traffic used to show with an address of cctalk-admin and cctech-admin. This has apparently changed to cctalk-bounces and cctech-bounces. Please adjust any filters or mail rules that you may have on your end accordingly. The above change caused a problem with the way the two views (cctalk and cctech) of the list were cross-linked. I *THINK* I have this problem fixed, can anyone let me know if they see strangeness in this area directly (offlist). I fixed this about 8:15 CST, so only for posts sent well after that. I'm still wading through things looking for issues (I am sure there is some). Let me know if you see anything! Jay

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Dinosaur Computer Company?

by netsurfer_x1＠fastmailbox.net

I've posted this before, but got no answers. I'm trying again. Has anyone ever heard of a computer company called Dinosaur Computers? I had a friend tell me that such a company existed (with the same name, no less!), but I never found anything. Anyone ever heard of this company? -- David Vohs netsurfer_x1(a)fastmailbox.net -- http://www.fastmail.fm - The professional email service

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Apple Lisa Computers

by jwwrightstone＠worldnet.att.net

Is anyone in the NJ-NY area interested in buying two Apple Lisa Computers (Vintage about 1985-6). I have two computers with external hard disk, printer, software. They are in working condition. If you have any interest in these, please contact me. Wayne

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Looking for DEC parts

by fm.arnold＠gmx.net

>Message: 9 >Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 00:07:02 -0800 (PST) >Subject: Re: Looking for DEC parts >From: "Eric Smith" <eric(a)brouhaha.com> >To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> >Reply-To: cctech(a)classiccmp.org > >> These are the parts we are looking for: >> >> 5 pcs. DEC 21-17311-01 or 21-17311-02 >> 2 pcs. DEC 21-17312-00 or 21-17312-01 >> 2 pcs. DEC 57-00001-01 >> 2 pcs. DEC 57-00000-01 >> 2 pcs. DEC 21-15542-01 >> >> Any luck for us ?? > >You might be more likely to get a useful response if you told us what >those parts are. I've got a lot of parts, but I don't have any >inventory by part number. Those chips are: DEC 21-17311-01 or 21-17311-02 = T-11 processor DEC 21-17312-00 or 21-17312-01 = DC 319 DLART DEC 57-00001-01 = KEF11 FIS DEC 57-00000-01 = Ctrl/Data Hybride of 11/23 DEC 21-15542-01 = MMU of 11/23 I have those parts over here, and since both the original poster and myself are located in Germany, I have already dropped them a line and helped them out. Frank Arnold

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GEM

by Daniel.Harris＠cliffordchance.com

Do you still have the old copy of GEM? I'm most interested in packaging, manuals, etc. that refer to it as a windowing environment (as you did in your message). Daniel R. Harris Clifford Chance US, LLP <mailto:daniel.harris@cliffordchance.com> daniel.harris(a)cliffordchance.com 650.858.4373 (direct dial) 650.858.4399 (fax) 650.278.6414 (mobile) ******* This message and any attachment are confidential and may be privileged or otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, please telephone or email the sender and delete this message and any attachment from your system. If you are not the intended recipient you must not copy this message or attachment or disclose the contents to any other person. For further information about Clifford Chance please see our website at http://www.cliffordchance.com or refer to any Clifford Chance office.

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[Fwd: DEC TS-11s]

by tponsford＠theriver.com

-------- Original Message -------- Subject: DEC TS-11s Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 22:09:08 -0700 From: Wayne M. Smith <wmsmith(a)earthlink.net> Reply-To: General Discussion: On-Topic Posts Only <cctech(a)classiccmp.org> To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> There's two DEC TS-11 tape drives up for auction at the gov't liquidation site. They're located in beautiful Barstow, CA in case anyone's interested. 2 days, 18 hours to go and no bid yet. http://web.govliquidation.com/auction/view?auctionId=258037&convertTo=US D -W

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RFC: newmember list policy?

by jwest＠classiccmp.org

Question: Anyone can join the list (cctalk or cctech) without moderation, automatically. I was wondering if it might not be good to require an email >from people wanting to join the list - kind of a "letter of introduction" if you will. Something to give them an opportunity to say what they collect, what type of systems they are interested in, that kinda thing. This would serve two purposes. First, this email would be forwarded to the list as an introduction to everyone (not for a vote or anything like that). Second, it would give me a fairly reasonable way to make sure people who join the list are real collectors, or people with a real interest anyway, and not some schmoe wanting to post ads for modern equipment, or harvest list addresses by receiving the traffic. Sure this is not a fool proof thing, but might help alleviate that. In addition, I was considering no longer allowing posts to the list (cctalk) >from unsubscribers. Currently anytime a non member posts to the list it gets flagged for moderation. However, this is taking more and more time of mine to read and approve (reject most) of those. Thus, I was considering making someone join the list before they can post at all, even with moderation of their posts. The downside of this, is on rare occasion, someone (not a collector) posts to the list that they have interesting equipment available, and I don't want to have to make them join the list. Their post would be silently rejected. This doesn't happen often, but who wants to miss a real gem. Please email responses to this directly to me instead of the list. Jay West

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LIST ADMIN

by jwest＠classiccmp.org

Ok, the upgrade took a LOT longer than I thought. I'm still not certain I have everything right. But, I do see emails getting through at least. I'm heading off to get sleep. I will do a little testing tomorrow. As people notice problems, please email me directly. Also - I got enough responses to "Please reply offlist" so no more are needed (and messages with that subject are temporarily dev/nulled) :) Jay

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