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Diablo 620 Ribbon, Printronix 300 ribbon

by cb＠mythtech.net

I have two new Diablo 620 ribbons, and one new Printronix 300 ribbon. Anyone want them, just send me a mailing address and they're yours. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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IBM System/23 problems

by cb＠mythtech.net

>Yeah, I'm here in the states, New York to be specific. I would be very >interested in getting ahold of a copy of the ROM chip to replace the >nonfunctional chip on my machine's board, as well as copies of whatever >software I can find. I don't know what software was available for the >System/23, probably mostly just business software, right? What >operating system did it run, or was it just some flavor of BASIC with >disk commands? Although I don't know anything about System 23's, I am pretty sure that all my functioning ones also displayed the same codes across the top, with many hilited as well. I think the error may be the one it stops on, not anything prior. Of course, I could also be totally wrong. I would certainly double check with a System 23 expert before doing much work in replacing the ROMS. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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Old DOS on topic yet?

by Robert_Feldman＠jdedwards.com

There is a good selection of 16-bit MS-DOS software for networking the HP LX palmtops (XT-class, but with an 80186 processor), including TC/IP and PPP, as well as simple browsers HTML readers, and email programs (look at http://www.dasoft.com/WWW/wv3.htm, for example). Many are free. There are a number of PCMCIA network cards that have DOS support (look for a 16-bit card; I have a 3Com 574). The selection is more restricted for the HP palmtops, though, because of its power limitations (<125mA, IIRC). The favorite card is the Accton EN2216, no longer produced by sometimes available on eBay. If you search the HPLX mailing list archives (http://www.technoir.nu/hplx/hplx-l/), you will find instructions on setting up DOS networking, email, etc. If you want to hook an MS-DOS computer to an MS network, there is always http://www.wown.com/j_helmig/dosclien.htm. You could also hook the DOS computer to a network using a serial port and PPP (MochaSoft PPP http://www.mochasoft.dk/f_download2.html is highly recommended on the HPLX list). Bob -----Original Message----- From: Joe [mailto:rigdonj@cfl.rr.com] Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2003 9:08 PM To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: Re: Old DOS on topic yet? At 05:16 PM 9/25/03 -0700, you wrote: >> I would like to get an old single floppy DOS laptop machine >> on my local network. Anyone know how to get DOS to work with >> a PCMCIA card (uh too new?) > >Well.... One question comes to mind, if it's a single floppy laptop (I >translate that as meaning it doesn't have a HD), does it even have a PCMCIA >card slot? If it doesn't, does it have an bidirectional parallel port >(isn't that called EPP?). If you have the PCMCIA slot, you'll need to find >a card that is old enough that there was DOS support for it. Hopefully you >can get one that includes the drivers and instructions. > >Warning, setting such a thing up is not fun. The next question is, what do >you plan on using for networking software? Such things for DOS weren't >exactly common either. > > Zane > IIRC somewhere on the net is a HP 200LX palmtop that's operating as a server. IIRC it has one or two PCMCIA slots and 2Mb of RAM with MS-DOS 5 in ROM and NO disk drives. Don't recall what networking software it was using but it shouldn't be to hard to find if it's still on the net. Ah! Found it! it's at <http://www.technoir.nu/hplx/welcome.html>. It's now been taken off-line but the details are still posted. Joe

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Old DOS on topic yet?

by Robert_Feldman＠jdedwards.com

The HP 95LX (MS-DOS 3.3 in ROM) came out slightly after the Poqet, and it also does not have a fully PCMCIA 1.0 compatable card slot. The HP 100LX (MS-DOS 5.0 in ROM), which came out in 1993, has does have a fully compatable slot, PCMCIA Revision 2.0, IIRC. The PCMCIA (Personal Computer Memory Card Industry Association) was formed in June of 1989. -----Original Message----- From: Fred Cisin [mailto:cisin@xenosoft.com] Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2003 7:39 PM To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: Re: Old DOS on topic yet? On Thu, 25 Sep 2003, Ron Hudson wrote: > I would like to get an old single floppy DOS laptop machine > on my local network. Anyone know how to get DOS to work with > a PCMCIA card (uh too new?) The Poqet computer came out just over ten years ago. It used two memory cards that were PCMCIA, but before the official PCMCIA standard was developed. Does anybody know offhand exactly when the PCMCIA standard came about? PCMCIA = "People Can't memorize Computer Industry Acronyms" The Toshiba 1100, and the Atari Portfolio wer out about that time, and like the Poqet, they had versions of DOS in ROM. (The Portfolio was a wannabe, Toshiba and Poqet were MS-DOS)

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OT: Apple Lisa in today's Dilbert cartoon

by Robert_Feldman＠jdedwards.com

http://www.unitedmedia.com/comics/dilbert/ Bob

22 years, 6 months

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***CLEAR*** HP-85 FS on E-bay

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

<http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3048818050&category=3294> Joe

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Fwd: Two complete Lisa 2's for sale

by jrasite＠eoni.com

I *know* that this will interest someone here.... From the LowEndMac swap list Jim -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [swap] Two complete Lisa 2's for sale Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2003 15:38:00 -0400 From: bktigger(a)copper.net To: LEM Swap List <lem-swap(a)mail.maclaunch.com> LEM-Swap is for buying & selling Mac stuff. It is not a discussion list. See the FAQ <http://lowendmac.com/lists/swap.html> for guidelines on postings, feedback, and dispute resolution. -------------------- I'm making some room for other items and have decided to sell the two complete Lisa 2's I've got. Both units are stock with 2 MB of RAM and in good comestic condition. One has a Profile 10 MB HD and the other has a Profile 5 MB HD. They include keyboards, no mice but they work fine with older 128/512/Plus mice. Both units were working as of 2 years ago. I brought them out recently and neither unit starts up. In the past this has been due to dirty contacts on the backplane and cards and I believe that is the case now. I simply don't have the time to go over them and clean the contacts up. I'll include copies of MacWorks Plus and MacWorks XL (various versions) as well as Lisa Office, Lisa Term, Lisa Calc. If I can find them all I'll also include files with Lisa schematics, repair utilities and Lisa Unix. All files will come burned on a CD and you can use a 400k floppy compatible Mac to transfer them and I'll toss in a bunch of 400k floppies. These are going to be heavy to ship so take that into consideration. The cpu's will be shipped in their own boxes and the Profiles and keyboards will be shipped in a third box. Shipping will be from 28609, count on 50 pounds approx. shipping weight for the cpu's and 35 pounds for the Profiles. I can ship by US Mail or motor freight if you have that delivery option. I'd like to get $500 + shipping for all of it. Any questions email me. Thanks, Randy -- LEM-Swap is sponsored by <http://lowendmac.com/> and... 123Inkjets.com <http://lowendmac.com/ad/123inkjets.html> Support Low End Mac <http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html> LEM-Swap list info: <http://lowendmac.com/lists/swap.html> --> AOL users, remove "mailto:" Send list messages to: <mailto:lem-swap@mail.maclaunch.com> To unsubscribe, email: <mailto:lem-swap-off@mail.maclaunch.com> For digest mode, email: <mailto:lem-swap-digest@mail.maclaunch.com> Subscription questions: <mailto:listmom@lemlists.com> Archive: <http://www.mail-archive.com/lem-swap%40mail.maclaunch.com/> Join the SwapChat list: <mailto:get-swap-chat@jmug.org> --------------------------------------------------------------- >The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com --------------------------------------------------------------- .

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Cool new bad with a vintage computing twist

by vcf＠siconic.com

I just discovered one of the coolest new bands called The Polyphonic Spree, and after exploring their multi-faceted website I came across a cute little Easter Egg. Go to: http://www.thepolyphonicspree.com Once the Flash animation finishes coloring in all the sections, click on the bulbous red shape in the lower right hand corner of the screen. This will pull up a photo of a Sinclair ZX Spectrum. Each button you press on the keyboard takes you to a different photo. Check out the music too. It's pretty awesome. -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org [ Old computing resources for business || Buy/Sell/Trade Vintage Computers ] [ and academia at www.VintageTech.com || at http://marketplace.vintage.org ]

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Fwd: Canadian Collection

by kenziem＠sympatico.ca

Looks like York University has started a collection http://www.cs.yorku.ca/museum/collections/collection.htm http://www.yorku.ca/yfile/archive/index.asp?Article=758 -- Ottawa, Canada Collector of vintage computers http://www.ncf.ca/~ba600

22 years, 6 months

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Compaticard Software Available

by kyrrin＠bluefeathertech.com

With thanks to Don Maslin for providing the Zip archive, I have placed said ZIPfile, containing the driver software for the Compaticards, on my FTP site. You can retrieve it using standard anonymous signon in this path. Site: ftp.bluefeathertech.com Path: /pub/computing/hardware/legacy/DiskControllers/compaticard Enjoy! -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Bruce Lane, Owner & Head Hardware Heavy, Blue Feather Technologies -- http://www.bluefeathertech.com ARS KC7GR (Formerly WD6EOS) since 12-77 -- kyrrin(a)bluefeathertech.com "Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati" (Red Green, aka Steve Smith)

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Some of my other finds in St. louis

by jrkeys＠concentric.net

Got the following items various thrifts in St. Louis: HP 33C calculator with case and charger for $5 IBM guide to operations for the PC with two Persyst manuals in it, Time-Spectrum Multi-function Board and The COMPAK Module for the IBM PC hot to install. A Sun mouse model COMPACT1 Various cartridges and mousepads.

22 years, 6 months

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Compaticard stuff

by TRASH3＠splab.cas.neu.edu

was somebody looking for microsolutions compaticard stuff? I found my software and manual. Probably the floppy drive is around here also, but my recollection was it had failed. Joe

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Pinging Bruce Lane Re: Compaticard stuff

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

Bruce, I tried to e-mail the files to you but the message bounced. Joe >Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2003 16:42:14 -0400 >To: Bruce Lane <kyrrin(a)bluefeathertech.com> >From: Joe <rigdonj(a)cfl.rr.com> >Subject: Re: Compaticard stuff >X-Attachments: C:\COMPTICA\VER_2_03\Compati.zip; >In-Reply-To: <200309250820290951.0DD7705C(a)192.168.42.129> >References: <030924194739.f2ad(a)splab.cas.neu.edu> <030924194739.f2ad(a)splab.cas.neu.edu> > > Teledisk? Bahhh! I still can't get it to work! > > Here's a zipped copy of the files for version 2.03. I also have the files for version 1 if you want them. > > Joe > > > >At 08:20 AM 9/25/03 -0700, you wrote: >>Joe, I'd like to archive that floppy, and make it available on my FTP server. Any way you can send me a Teledisk image of it? >> >>Yes, I also have one of the cards. It's one of the few pieces of "classic" computing stuff that I want to hang on to. >> >>Thanks much. >> >>*********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** >> >>On 24-Sep-03 at 19:47 TRASH3(a)splab.cas.neu.edu wrote: >> >>>was somebody looking for microsolutions compaticard stuff? I found my >>>software and manual. Probably the floppy drive is around here also, >>>but my recollection was it had failed. >>> >>>Joe >> >> >>-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- >>Bruce Lane, Owner & Head Hardware Heavy, >>Blue Feather Technologies -- http://www.bluefeathertech.com >>ARS KC7GR (Formerly WD6EOS) since 12-77 -- kyrrin(a)bluefeathertech.com >>"Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati" (Red Green, aka Steve Smith) >> >> >>

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Is this worth picking up? MorrowDecision (LS ADM 20) Terminal

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

Spotted this in a scrap place today but didn't get it. Labeled as Morrow Decision but the back label says Lear Sigler ADM20. Should I go back and get it? Joe

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New toys

by cb＠mythtech.net

>Now I guess you could get some car window/bumper stickers made up - "My other >computer is an Apple Lisa" :) oooh... I might just have to do that. :-) Anyone else want one? -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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Betr.: old shtuff

by e.huininga＠sozawe.groningen.nl

Hi Fred, It sounds very familiar. I believe I used to have one too :-) Maybe I've still got the software, jumpersettings etc. somewhere. I'll take a look this evening.... Cheers, Eelco Met vriendelijke groet, Eelco Huininga Systeembeheer Dienst Sociale Zaken & Werkgelegenheid Eendrachtskade z.z. 2 9726 CW Groningen, The Netherlands tel: +31 50 367 5720 fax: +31 50 367 5731 e-mail: e.huininga(a)sozawe.groningen.nl >>> "Fred N. van Kempen" <waltje(a)pdp11.nl> 09/24 10:22 >>> Hiyas, While going through the (many, sigh) boxes of old crap, trying to find the manual for the AST FourPort card, I found my good old Irwin tape drive again... I already have about 120 tapes in the machine room (I always managed to keep those "with" all the other tapes..) which contain a lot of old software. So.. does anyone still have these drives? I can probably go and resurrect my old 286/20 machine (to which the drive was once connected ;) and install a fresh copy of DOS on that, but I probably also need the software for it... I remember I used both their "old" system (FIP, I believe) and their new stuff, EZ-TAPE I believe.... Oh.. and anyone able to feed me info on the (&(#$^(#^ AST card should report in for duty asap :) Cheers, Fred -- Fred N. van Kempen, DEC (Digital Equipment Corporation) Collector/Archivist Visit the VAXlab Project at http://www.pdp11.nl/VAXlab/ Visit the Archives at http://www.pdp11.nl/ Email: waltje(a)pdp11.nl BUSSUM, THE NETHERLANDS / Sunnyvale, CA, USA

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Compaticard stuff

by TRASH3＠splab.cas.neu.edu

I have 3 requests for the compaticard floppy. I recall in the early days that some manufacturers put bad blocks on their floppies to prevent copying. If the floppy has no copy protection, then I'll make up a disk image and email it out to whomever asks. bear in mind the image is not really compressed and it will be over 1mb. If it is copy protected, then... I recall programs that copied them also, but I don't have them now. joe

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Power Macintosh 6100/66 (with DOS compatibility card)

by tlindner＠watermarkpress.com

I am looking for a buyer for the above machine. It isn't ten years old yet, so I was hesisatant about listing it on vinatge.org Interested? -- tim lindner tlindner(a)watermarkpress.com Bright

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IBM System/23 problems

by ian_primus＠yahoo.com

My IBM System/23 doesn't work properly. When turned on, it displays a series of numbers on the screen, and stops at "FD". Of the numbers printed, "0B" is inverted and flashing. I found a listing of the error codes in google's cache of classiccmp.org (part of the archive seems to be down). http://216.239.51.104/search?q=cache:83dbK69EHG8J:www.classiccmp.org/ mail-archive/classiccmp/1997-07/0566.html+IBM+System/ 23+error+site:www.classiccmp.org&hl=en&ie=UTF-8 According to this, the error code "0B" indicates that one of the ROM chips on the logic board has failed. I looked at it, and it is soldered to the board. Desoldering and replacing it with a socket shouldn't be a problem, but I will need to find another ROM chip. Does anyone have a spare chip, or the ability to copy a good chip? Also, once I get this machine working again, I will need to find some software for it. I would assume that there is no place to download System/23 software, or even a way to get files to usable 8 inch floppies. I have a few disks given to me with the computer that may be bootable, but I don't know. I don't really know a lot about the System/23 other than the fact that it's really heavy. Any information would be appreciated. Thanks! Ian Primus ian_primus(a)yahoo.com

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Cute auction ad

by vcf＠siconic.com

Check out this auction for a TRS-80 Pocket Computer 2: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3048884954 -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org [ Old computing resources for business || Buy/Sell/Trade Vintage Computers ] [ and academia at www.VintageTech.com || at http://marketplace.vintage.org ]

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Vintage Computer Festival 6.0 Update

by vcf＠siconic.com

-= Vintage Computer Festival =- -= Saturday, October 11 through Sunday, October 12 =- -= 10am until 6pm Daily =- -= Computer History Museum, Mountain View, California =- -= http://www.vintage.org/2003/main/ =- It's time to get OLD SCHOOL! __ __ _ _ _ _______ _______ _______ \ \ / / | | | \ | | |__ __| /\ / _____ \ | _____| \ \ / / | | | \ | | | | / \ | / \_| | | \ \ / / | | | \ | | | | / /\ \ | | _____ | |_____ \ \ / / | | | |\ \| | | | / / \ \ | | |____ | | _____| \ \/ / | | | | \ | | | / /____\ \ | | | | | | \ / | | | | \ | | | / ________ \ | \_____/ | | |_____ \/ |_| |_| \_| |_| /_/ \_\ \_______/ |_______| ______ ______ __________ ______ _ _ ________ ______ ______ | ____ || __ || ___ _ || ____ ||| |||___ ___|| _____|| ____ | || |_||| |_ ||| | | | ||| |||| || || || || || || || |||| | | | |||____|||| || || ||_____ ||____|| | \ || ||| \ | | | || ___|| \ || | \ | ___|| ___ \ | | _ || ||| | | | | || | | | || | | | | | | | | | |_| |||____||| | | | | || | | |__|| | | | |___ | | | | |______||______||__| |_| |_||__| |______| |__| |______||__| |_| _______ _______ ____ _______ _ __ __ _ | _____|| _____| / __ \ |__ __| | | \ \ / / /\ | | | | | | | | \_| | | | | \ \ / / / \ | | | |_____ | |_____ | \___ | | | | \ \ / / / /\ \ | | | _____|| _____| \___ \ | | | | \ \ / / / / \ \ | | | | | | _ | | | | | | \ \/ / / /____\ \ | | | | | |_____ | \__| | | | | | \ / / ________ \ | |____ |_| |_______| \____/ |_| |_| \/ /_/ \_\ |______| _______ _______ | ___ | | ___ | | | |_| | | / | | |_____ | | / | | ___ | | |/ /| | | | | | | / | | | |___| | _ | /__| | |_______| |_| |_______| [ best viewed with a fixed font, because in my day we didn't have these fancy proportional fonts, AND WE SURE AS HECK DIDN'T HAVE LOWERCASE EITHER DAGNABBIT! ] That's right! You know it's the Vintage Computer Festival littering your inbox when you get a message that looks like the intro screen to a BBS from the 1980s. The time has come for those who appreciate the more utilitarian uses of ASCII characters to celebrate another year gone by in computing history. The Vintage Computer Festival celebrates the passing of more great machines into the annals of history, and what better place to celebrate than at the Computer History Museum! The fine folks at the Museum have invited the VCF crew back again for a second year, but this time we get to invade their spacious new 119,000 square foot facility in Mountain View, California, home to the single largest computer history archive on the planet! This is what's happening at this year's Festival: -=[ Xerox Alto 30th Birthday Bash ]=- The Xerox Alto, the computer that introduced us to the Graphical User Interface (GUI) and forever aliented Command-Line Interface (CLI) programmers everywhere, has reached the ripe old age of 30. So we're celebrating it in grand style by having a panel of past and present Xerox PARC (Palo Alto Research Center, the place where the Alto was born) luminaries speak about the development of the Alto. We're also featuring a line-up of classic Xerox machines. The panel speakers so far include John Ellenby, Gary Starkweather, and Mark Bernstein. More panelists are to be announced. Stay tuned! A special Xerox Alto exhibit will accompany the presentation, courtesy of Bruce Damer of the DigiBarn and Xerox computer afficionado Don Woodward (winner of the Best of Show exhibit ribbon at VCF 5.0). The exhibit will include the original Alto, an Alto II XM, and later D* machines including the 8010 "Star", 6085 "Daybreak", and more! Many of these machines will be running, and you'll have a chance to demo them hands-on. You do not want to miss this event! It is not often that you have a chance to experiment with ancient computers that set the paradigm for modern computing and also meet the folks who designed them. -=[ Retro-Code Video Game Programming Challenge ]=- We tried this last year and the results were...interesting. This year we want some verve, some panache, some jois de vive, some ASS-KICKING video games, and we want YOU (yes, YOU) to be involved! Are you ready to take the Retro-Code Challege!? Here's the deal: We'll be providing three classic computers--an Apple //e, an Atari 800, and a Commodore 64. Each will be outfitted with the minimum tools required to design a video game from scratch, including technical reference manuals, general programming reference books, and a disk operating system. We'll turn them on and boot them up, and then turn them over to you. We're going to assemble three teams of programmers. Each team will have three hours to design, from scratch, the most inspiring video game their over-stressed neurons will be able to muster. The team with the best video game at the end of the competition will be awarded with fabulous prizes (OK, we'll give out some consolation prizes to the also-rans ;) The Retro-Code contest will be held on the Saturday of the event and will begin at 2:30PM. Teams will be chosen at 2:15PM, so arrive early if you wish to participate. For more contest details and information, go to: http://www.vintage.org/2003/main/retrocode.php -=[ Computer History Museum Mega Book Sale ]=- Our fabulous sponsors, the Computer History Museum, will be holding a huge book sale on Saturday, October 11, beginning at around 1:30pm. Over 1,000 books covering contemporary technical computer topics will be available. The books were donated to the Museum by a very well-known individual in the computer industry and are intended to be sold to raise money for the Museum's operations. The Museum is also culling duplicate titles from their own library to augment the sale. Many of the books being pulled are very interesting old (1970s and prior) texts on various computer-related topics. If you're a vintage computer bookworm then you won't want to miss this sale. Visit the Museum's website for more information: http://www.computerhistory.org You might also want to check out the Friends of the Palo Alto Library book sale, which features an excellent computer and technical section filled with many fine old computer related texts. Their sale is also on Saturday, October 11, and is being cross-advertised with the book sale at the Museum. Get more information here: http://www.friendspaloaltolib.org/booksale.htm -=[ IMSAI Series Two to be Debuted ]=- Tom Fischer of IMSAI will debut the IMSAI Series Two, a modern-day reincarnation of the venerable IMSAI 8080 computer. The new IMSAI Series Two features the classic IMSAI 8080 cabinet, a newly designed advanced IEEE-696 compatible Programmer's Front Panel, 10-slot active termination IEEE-696 motherboard and a 350 watt switching power supply. It's powered by a Zilog Z8S180 20Mhz microprocessor (backward compatible to the Intel 8080) with 32K Flash memory and 1MB static memory. IMSAI will be exhibiting the new IMSAI products, including a brand new Super I/O S-100 board (Serial, Parallel, IDE and much more!) in the main hall. Also, make sure you catch Tom's talk on Sunday. More information on the IMSAI Series Two can be found here: http://www.imsai.net/products/imsai_series_two.htm -=[ VCF 6.0 Speaker Schedule ]=- We always assemble the most eccelectic bunch of computer history experts and storytellers to entertain you during the morning hours of the event. This year we've really out-done ourselves. We've got THREE tracks of speakers, plus the APL Bay Area Users Group will be holding their October meeting on-site. Here's the current schedule: Saturday, October 11 Time Speaker Topic -------- ------------------- -------------------------------------- 10:00 AM Evan Koblentz History of the PDA 11:00 AM Zbigniew Stachniak Microcomputing in Canada 1973-1983 11:30 AM Christine Finn Collecting the Collectors 12:00 PM Len Shustek Keynote Speech 1:00 PM Xerox Alto Panel Xerox Alto 30th Birthday Bash Sunday, October 12 Time Speaker Topic -------- ------------------- -------------------------------------- 10:00 AM Joey Tuttle A Personal History of the IBM 5100 11:00 AM Forth Panel Using Forth with Vintage Computers 11:30 AM Todd Fischer IMSAI History & the New IMSAI Series 2 12:00 PM Sellam Ismail VCF Shenanigans 12:30 PM Jef Raskin The Humane Interface 01:00 PM Bruce Damer Joys and Trials of Computer Collecting More speakers are to be announced soon! Check the VCF 6.0 speaker's schedule for updates: http://www.vintage.org/2003/main/speaker.php -=[ Exhibit Your Vintage Computer ]=- We're aiming to have the largest number of exhibits ever at the VCF this year, and so we'd still like more! Consider exhibiting your favorite vintage computer at this year's Festival. You might say, "Well, Sellam, I've only got [such-n-such] computer and it's not really that very interesting," to which I would reply, "You're WRONG, fool!" Ok, I won't call you a fool, but you'll be pleasantly surprised at the reaction you'll get exhibiting what you may think to be simply a ho-hum computer, but that others will find pretty fascinating. Make new friends and strike up interesting conversations with people you don't even know. Heck, you may even meet the girl/guy of your dreams!* Exhibit entries will be judged and awarded ribbons in 12 different categories. We'll also award 1st, 2nd and 3rd place ribbons for the Best of Show exhibits, with fabulous prizes including a $100 cash award for the Best of Show exhibit! To register your exhibit, mosey on over to: http://www.vintage.org/2003/main/exhibit.php While there you can also see who else is exhibiting and what they're bringing. * No guarantees; bathe and brush your teeth for better results -=[ Buy, Sell and Trade at the VCF Marketplace ]=- As always, one of the most exciting aspects of the VCF is the Marketplace, where you can find a large and varied assortment of some of the most fantastical old computer thingies anywhere. Find that odd part you've been seeking out for your collection, then touch, smell, even taste it if you like, before haggling out a deal. There is simply no better place to buy and sell vintage computers than at the VCF Marketplace. For more information on selling at VCF 6.0, please visit: http://www.vintage.org/2003/main/vendor.php -=[ Commodore 64 Prototype Up for Auction ]=- VCF 6.0 will feature an auction for the only known prototype Commodore 64 in existence. The auction will be happening in the background on our Vintage Computer Marketplace and will culminate at 3:00 PM on the Sunday of the event. We'll announce the closing price at that time. In the meantime, to get information about this auction (and to participate in the bidding) go to: http://www.vintage.org/special/2003/c64prototype/ As mentioned, the auction is being held on the newly launched Vintage Computer Marketplace. Buy, Sell and Trade vintage computers on this innovative new service. 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22 years, 6 months

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Unibus questions

by doc＠mdrconsult.com

I'm going over the card configuration of a PDP11/84 and reading the online documents, and I'm confused about a couple of things. I need to get squared away on this, as I'm testing some drives needed in production and only have Unibus SDI adapters. Pardon the obvious lack of clue. I've never worked with a Unibus machine before, and don't know the terminology at all. Also, I have a hand-written diagram from someone even less educated than I, so if there isn't a board number with the description, I don't have it or can't clearly read it. I won't physically see the machine till this weekend. First, there's an expansion chassis. It has a terminator card (M9302) in row 7 (starting from 0) in what I assume is slots E-F (front of the rack is A?). OK, I get that, but theres a non-NPG single-slot grant card in row 7 slot C, and in succeeding rows, there are more boards - M9700 or M9100, M105, M7226 in row 8, power and M7821 in row 9, power and M117 in row 10, and M002 in row 11. How is this functional? Is there a reliable way to determine grant configuration without physical examination of the backplane? The machine was [allegedly] very recently running in this configuration, but I don't want to smoke something by counting on that. I'd like to strip the non-essentials for testing. A test setup in a single card cage - base boards plus SDI and RX02 controllers - would save a lot of juice and reduce points of failure. Last, the CPU is an M8190-AE, which lists in Megan Gentry's reference as 11/84 *or* 11/83? So I could drop this pup into a QBus chassis after the SDI drives are tested? What would be the relative merits of doing that? Doc

22 years, 6 months

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by cb＠mythtech.net

>Yeah, I hate USB as well. It is far from Universal, considering that >very little USB hardware works on a Macintosh due to the lack of >drivers, and even with the proper drivers, it seems to be flakey at >best. What are you trying to run on the Mac via USB? If it is a mouse or joystick, have a look at USB Overdrive. That guy seems to support everything! -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

22 years, 6 months

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Card Reader

by jwstephens＠msm.umr.edu

I have a documation reader that had the classic meltdown of the rollers. Anyone work on those, want to quote a price for a fix? or have reasonable priced unit. I also wish to build up the USB interface for this as well, but that will wait till I have a working specimen in hand. Thanks Jim Stephens

22 years, 6 months

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New toys

by cb＠mythtech.net

>Do they have both a "Reset" and "Interrupt" buttons in the back or just >"Reset"? If the former it's a Lisa 2/10; the latter then it's a Lisa 2 >(upgrade from a Lisa 1). They have both the Interrupt and Reset buttons. So I'm guessing they are the Lisa 2/10. The previous owner told me he thought they were 2/5 as he said there is no internal hard drives. I just opened the front of one, and there is a hard drive in it. So it really looks like they are in fact the 2/10 version. I also have two styles of mice. One is the screw on D shell like the 128 has (with the large fat connector), and the other is the Lisa 1 style spring clip D shell. He said he bought the machines from his company years ago, so I'm not too surprised that there are parts that might not have gone with these specific machines. Both machines have a parallel expansion card in them. Or at least I assume that is what the card is. The one that was hooked up had the Profile drive and printer connected to the two ports on the expansion card. And the ports are labeled with two parallel lines. Why does the Lisa have two serial ports on the machine if they planned on you using parallel ports for the drive and printer? I thought Apple at that time was in the "we give you exactly what you need and nothing more" mode? Or did that attitude go soley with the Mac line? Also, was it normal for there to be an anti-glare screen on the CRTs? Both screens have a fabric feel to them, and when I popped the front off one, it was this screen that sits on the CRT. Was this a normal part, or some extra that was added? And finally, anyone have any idea which power cords shipped with the Lisa 2/10? They came with generic black power cords. Is that what they shipped with, or did they use the beige right angle plug like the early Macs did? I have a box of Apple logo cords and if I have the right ones, I'd like to match them up. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

22 years, 6 months

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IBM System/23 problems

by cb＠mythtech.net

> Also, once I get this machine working >again, I will need to find some software for it. I would assume that >there is no place to download System/23 software, I did just find yesterday another box of 8" disks. This box has the Customer Support Disks in it. That set of disks has assorted tools and software. They aren't original disks, but rather duplicates. I just have to find out if the System 23 software is usable on my 5110. If not, then I'll be offering up the remaining System 23 stuff (8" disks, and an almost complete set of manuals... one of the volume binders is missing its contents, and none of the original disks are to be found, but I think I have copies of all refered to disks in the box I just located. The remaining manuals appear to be complete). -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

22 years, 6 months

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IBM System/23 problems

by cb＠mythtech.net

>Nope. BASIC programs could possibly be translated, but the 5110 won't >read them from disk so you'd have to either retype them or transfer them >serially. That's what I thought, but before I got rid of the System 23 software, I figured I'd check. Now I just have to figure out which disks of programs were for the 5110 and which were for the System 23. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

22 years, 6 months

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Unibus/Qbus board/edge connectors

by emu＠ecubics.com

Hi all, Anybody knows, if they are still available somewhere ? Order number ? (I'm talking about the connectors on the backplanes, with .125" spacing) cheers & thanks

22 years, 6 months

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Reviving and connecting an ASR33

by n8uhn＠yahoo.com

If i remember right, only four wires are used in the current loop interface. two for xmit and two for rcve. most tty's did 180 baud or near it. the best way i have found to interface it, is to get one of the orignal ibm pc xt 8 bit, 1 port serial cards (the ones with the db-25 connector on the back). consult the instructions (i have a copy of those here somewhere) reverse the jumber pack for current loop and connect the proper pins for current loop too. that usually works for me. Bill __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com

22 years, 6 months

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Seeking TRS 80 III cables

by billdeg＠degnanco.com

I am looking for the cables to attach a 180K internal diskette drive to a working TRS 80 model III computer. Anyone have one for sale/trade? I am also looking for schematic so I can follow during install process. All I have is the drive itself. Bill Wilmington, Delaware.

22 years, 6 months

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old shtuff

by waltje＠pdp11.nl

Hiyas, While going through the (many, sigh) boxes of old crap, trying to find the manual for the AST FourPort card, I found my good old Irwin tape drive again... I already have about 120 tapes in the machine room (I always managed to keep those "with" all the other tapes..) which contain a lot of old software. So.. does anyone still have these drives? I can probably go and resurrect my old 286/20 machine (to which the drive was once connected ;) and install a fresh copy of DOS on that, but I probably also need the software for it... I remember I used both their "old" system (FIP, I believe) and their new stuff, EZ-TAPE I believe.... Oh.. and anyone able to feed me info on the (&(#$^(#^ AST card should report in for duty asap :) Cheers, Fred -- Fred N. van Kempen, DEC (Digital Equipment Corporation) Collector/Archivist Visit the VAXlab Project at http://www.pdp11.nl/VAXlab/ Visit the Archives at http://www.pdp11.nl/ Email: waltje(a)pdp11.nl BUSSUM, THE NETHERLANDS / Sunnyvale, CA, USA

22 years, 6 months

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Manuals for the postage

by TRASH3＠splab.cas.neu.edu

O.K. All the manuals went out Friday to Al to scan. With the exception of the heathkit manuals, a clearpoint manual and the vt103 configuration guide, each of the manuals were requested specifically by only one person, so we can send them out right after scanning. I have to go through my email, but I think that for the clearpoint and vt103 manuals, the second person said the electronic version would be o.k., so no copies are needed there either, unless somebody wants to make a paper copy. and finally, there was an offer to make 5 copies of all the heathkit stuff, so at least everybody will have a copy, and the first person on my list will get the original. I'll contact the interested people offline with the latest updates on where we stand on distribution. thanks joe heck

22 years, 6 months

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New toys

by cb＠mythtech.net

> Or how about "My other computer was made in 1978" or "My other computer >cost $4,000... in 1978"? "I've got Lisa at home with a mouse in her ass"? :-) -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

22 years, 6 months

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by cb＠mythtech.net

WOOHOOO!!! I just aquired two Apple Lisa 2 units. Both are complete with Profile drives and printers (as well as keyboard and mouse). Plus a spare Profile drive, and an assortment of software. I think this makes up for the otherwise crappy year I've been having!!! WOOHOO!!! -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

22 years, 6 months

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HP2000 progress

by jwest＠classiccmp.org

In the great HP2000 rebuild project, thanks to a huge bevy of spare parts >from Bill, the IOP is now again singing with 32Kw! Yes, a happy snoopy dance was performed :) Now it's on to resurrecting a 7905 in a lowboy cabinet. Can't decide if I will use only 13037 style drives, or stick with multiple 7900's (or both). That should pretty much finish the runnable system restoration. Then the only thing left will be the refurb of the 2610 printer, and the 7261 mark sense card reader, but those certainly aren't required to run the system. Thanks Bill!!! Jay West --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus]

22 years, 6 months

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Moving a System/34

by norm-classiccmp＠docnorm.com

Hi, folks. I just bought an IBM System/34 that's currently in Pennsylvania, and I need to move it to the Bay Area. Finding an appropriate shipper is not my problem (I've been through *that* enough). However, does anyone know what steps I should take to secure this system for shipping? I'm worried in particular about its hard disks -- it would seem very IBM-ish to have a manual way to park and secure the heads. I appreciate any help! Norm

22 years, 6 months

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New toys

by cb＠mythtech.net

>Started up the collection again huh Never really stopped collecting, just refocused by force (being evicted >from your storage area tends to do that) I've abonded pretty much all non Apple stuff (except my IBM 5110), and in the Mac front, I'm going only with certain machines (rare, or interesting to me). Although even in the Apple end of things, I unloaded stuff that I figure will be a long time if ever before I can put them to use (like my Apple III software since I have no Apple III) I also couldn't pass up a deal on a Lisa... I've been after one for years, and now I have two! (no idea where I'm going to put them however... but I'll find somewhere) -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

22 years, 6 months

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SUMMARY: PC memory managers (was: PC/MOS et al)

by waltje＠pdp11.nl

Hi all, Thanks to all who sent me their Complete Archives(tm) of whatever brand of PC DOS memory manager they were once using... I now have a fair selection of Qemm, 386MAX and whatnot :) The bad news was... it didn't work. Qemm6 would work, but make the box unstable. MAX and Qemm7 didnt work at all, they froze as soon as they were loaded. Not good. At some point I also noticed the box was acting strangely when heavy network traffic ocurred, *and* that it never showed me the Adaptec's BIOS banner. So... I decided to swap the (DOS) disk into another PC, and try again. Lo and behold... it works. Both Qemm7 and MAX work, and the network card behaves, AND the Adaptec lives :) Looks like I had a sick PC to work with... Said PC is now running DOS 6.22 with the memory manager, MS LANMAN client (using NDIS 2.0 driver and packet driver stub), with a full (licensed) copy of Ersatz-11 on top of that, emulating: - PDP-11/83, 4MB RAM - RQDX3 disk controller - 2x RD54 (160MB) disk - 1x RX50 diskette (emulated to 5.25" HD disk drive) - 1x RX33 diskette (emulated to same) - 1x TQK50 controller with TK50 drive, emulated to TZ30 drive on the Adaptec 1542CP. - 1x TSV05 tape drive, emuated to HP 7980S drive on Adaptec. - 1x DELQA ethernet controller, emulated to E100B through packet driver on top of NDIS stub (yay! ;-) - 1x DZV11 4-port async contr emulated by AST FourPort/XM ISA controller which I re-found in a box of crap ;-) The "machine" is now happily installing Ultrix-11 V3.2 from tape. Real tape, even. Yaaaay! Soon to be online as eagle.pdp11.nl. Cheers, and thanks to all who helped, Fred -- Fred N. van Kempen, DEC (Digital Equipment Corporation) Collector/Archivist Visit the VAXlab Project at http://www.pdp11.nl/VAXlab/ Visit the Archives at http://www.pdp11.nl/ Email: waltje(a)pdp11.nl BUSSUM, THE NETHERLANDS / Sunnyvale, CA, USA

22 years, 6 months

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SGI Cable...

by lbickley＠bickleywest.com

Does anyone have the cable that goes from an Indy Presenter Adapter or an Octane Presenter Adapter to a Presenter 1280? [Technically it's an LVDS video cable, 68 pin, MDR to LDI, OEM'ed for SGI by a company called "SMS"]. I'd be glad to pay a modest sum and shipping for the critter. Thanks, Lyle -- Lyle Bickley Mountain View, CA 94040 "Black holes are where God is dividing by zero"

22 years, 6 months

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Apple IIe 3.5 inch FDD

by adamg＠pobox.com

SmartPort 3.5" drives aren't too hard to come by, but I believe the IIe can't use them, and requires UniDisk 3.5" drives instead. For technical information I would start with Apple's old Tech Notes, which are now available on the web. Some of Apple's Technical Reference Manuals might also help. Although DOS 3.3 can't support 3.5" drives out of the box, there are a number of hacks to add this capability (I think one of them was called Diversi-DOS?) To use a standard Shugart-interface 3.5" drive to read and write GCR format floppies on the Apple, you'd need to implement the whole disk controller from scratch. The Apple 3.5" drives had the controller inside the drive, like an IDE or SCSI hard drive does; you'd need to reimplement it. Much easier to just buy one :-). It _is_ possible to use a standard drive mech, though. To deal with the fact that the mech isn't designed for ZBR, you simply change the controller's clock speed as you seek. The next step down in terms of difficulty is to take an off-the-shelf NEC 765 based floppy controller, interface it to the Apple with a bit of glue logic, and write a ROM that talks to it. This means you'd be writing in MFM format, incompatible with real Apple drives. If you want to be really nasty, you could consider that the Apple 5.25" disk interface and the Shugart interface both are at the level of flux transitions and motor steps... The circuitry to make a Shugart interface 3.5" drive look like an Apple 5.25" drive would not be too complicated. You'd get 280K per 3.5" disk and the disks would be in a format totally incompatible with everything. Or you could just buy some 5.25" disks. -- Adam

22 years, 6 months

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Weekend finds in Tulsa and St. Louis

by jrkeys＠concentric.net

Stopped in Tulsa Saturday for their first annual Gamer show and it was small but fun. Picked up a few items for the gaming collection. Also Sunday as we were leaving we stopped at 2 flea markets and a thrift store there in Tulsa. Here's a short list: 2- Neo Geo's one black and one blue, I left a silver one as it was damaged. Got one game cartridge. A new still sealed copy of Custer's Revenge by Mystique. A Timex Sinclair 1500. A handheld game called baseball2 by Entex from 1979. A Sears electronic Basketball handheld from 1980. A MERLIN handheld. Many cartridges for various machines like the Vic 20, 2600, Atari 400, N64, Talking Whiz-Kid, NES, PSOne, and others. A Compaq C120+ PDA with everything. Many more items then can be listed for now as I have still not unpacked everything. While in St. Louis at a thrift there I got a new in the box Cisco 1700 router for $24.95 ( I did a Google and it goes from $600 to $950 used and $900+ to $1200+ new). Sorry off topic but it was a sweet deal. Picked up a few other items while in St. Louis also.

22 years, 6 months

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WTB - Nintendo & Punchout

by cb＠mythtech.net

>AFAIK, there's a 5200 and there's a 7800. But I've never >heard of a 5800 ... did I miss one somewhere? You know, I never realized that before. Atari had the 2600, then the 5200 (2600 x2) then the 7800 (2600 x3) Was the 2600 a number picked for a reason? Something that was doubled and then tripled in later models? Or were they just a bunch of phone phreaks that designed the first one :-) -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

22 years, 6 months

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SOL-20 on e-bay

by jontitus＠comcast.net

Folks, I just put a nice SOL-20 computer on e-bay as item #2754896139. I also put an original Microsoft 2-button mouse (circa 1983) on e-bay, item #2754897096. Jon Jon Titus Milford, MA E-mail: jontitus(a)comcast.net

22 years, 6 months

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WTB - Nintendo & Punchout

by Joel.E.Bradley＠syntegra.com

Being that there was a recent discussion about 2600's (I have the 5800!), I am actually looking for an original working NES system with the game "Punchout" . I never had a NES growing up!!! :( e-mail me directly at joel.bradley(a)comcast.net Joel

22 years, 6 months

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Reviving and connecting an ASR33

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Sep 22, 20:23, Ian Primus wrote: > Hmm, if it sends all characters as uppercase, I will need some way to > change the PC to recognize that and convert it all back to lowercase or > something, since all of the UNIX commands are lower case. I assume > there is probably a setting in Linux somewhere to do that. At least > it's ASCII and not Baudot. That would be lots of fun... On old versions of unix, if the username and password you typed was all upper-case, it assumed you were using an uppercase-only teletype and set things accordingly. I doubt if Lunix includes that code :-) However, you should be able to do "stty tty33" which should set xcase, iuclc, olcuc, the correct delays for carriage-return and linefeed, and allow mark parity. I'm not sure how you type the stty command in the first place, though :-) You'll probably have to change /etc/gettydefs. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

22 years, 6 months

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Atari 2600 for $600

by cb＠mythtech.net

>Are you talking about Stella? Yup, thats the one I use >But one of the problems with playing on your computer is the screen size... >Playing on a 31" TV or projection TV is *much* nicer. :) Plus it is >easier to use a *real* joystick to paddle. Yes, these are two very good reasons to use the real thing. (and of course, its just cooler to use the real thing, but when space it tight, at least the emulator lets you play) >There is also the CuttleCart, which allows you to play downloaded ROMs on >a real 2600. Humm.... that sounds like something I want to locate. :-) -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

22 years, 6 months

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Atari 2600 for $600

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

In a message dated 9/23/2003 11:47:34 AM Eastern Daylight Time, teoz(a)neo.rr.com writes: << > Are you talking about Stella? > > But one of the problems with playing on your computer is the screen size... > Playing on a 31" TV or projection TV is *much* nicer. :) Plus it is > easier to use a *real* joystick to paddle. (No adapter required). > There is also the CuttleCart, which allows you to play downloaded ROMs on > a real 2600. :) > > Cheers, > > Bryan > Nothing beats playing the original games on the real hardware (wether its a 2600, amiga, c64, arcade game etc). I have an original 2600 with maybe 20 original carts, I also have the atari 2600 emu with every cart made on my dreamcast console. I like the real 2600 better because of the joystick and paddle control, but use the dreamcast for the games I dont have. >> ah, there's nothing like cursing out a flaky joystick in the heat of battle. ha ha. I've got several joysticks with much better action than the Atari ones.

22 years, 6 months

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Kennedy 9600 (A) woes

by waltje＠pdp11.nl

Hiyas, Does anyone have experience with troubleshooting Kennedy tape drives? I have a 9600A here (still needed for reading in that darned UNIX tape...) and although it seems to work, it does fail one of its self tests (FAIL 153, second code is A50-NRZ1) and indeed does not read tapes, *nor* does it "see" the write enable rings. All other things seem to work fine. Any help would be muchly appreciated... if anyone has a scanned manual for it, that would even be better ! Cheers, Fred -- Fred N. van Kempen, DEC (Digital Equipment Corporation) Collector/Archivist Visit the VAXlab Project at http://www.pdp11.nl/VAXlab/ Visit the Archives at http://www.pdp11.nl/ Email: waltje(a)pdp11.nl BUSSUM, THE NETHERLANDS / Sunnyvale, CA, USA

22 years, 6 months

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Apple IIe 3.5 inch FDD

by r_beaudry＠hotmail.com

> Is it possibl;e to modify a standard IBM 3.5 inch FDD to > work with the apple?? As other pointed out, no.... > I understand the Apple II uses a > special drive interface, can this be conected up to the 3.5 inch drive > hardware and be used to drive them?? You can't hook up a Disk II or 5.25" controller to a 3.5" disk drive.. However, a 3.5" drive can be used in an Apple IIe (not sure about II, II+). There are two possible combinations: - Apple sold a drive called a UniDisk 3.5. This drive had a processor and buffer memory inside the case to allow it to buffer and effectively slow down the data transfer rate to the point where the Apple IIe could handle it. You still need to get a special controller card (often referred to as a "LIRON" card, because the word was silkscreened on the card). - Apple also sold a 3.5" drive controller card that had the processor/buffers/logic on the card, so you could use the standard 800KB drives from an Apple IIgs in an Apple IIe. This card also had the capability to drive Macintosh 1.44MB drives (so you could get 1.44MB on an Apple IIe!!). Coincidentally, I have one of these for auction on eBay right now (search for seller "rbeaudry") :-). You'd still need to get drives, but Apple IIgs 800KB drives are cheap and plentiful (in fact, I have several spares I could make available). Confusingly, both card were named by Apple as "3.5 controller cards", so be careful when looking fo rthem that you get the right card/drive combination.... Rich B.

22 years, 6 months

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HSJ50 Controllers

by dittman＠dittman.net

Does anyone have any HSJ50 controllers? I need to get new firmware for mine since I can't read either of the cards that came with them. If you have firmware and have access to a Windows 98/2000/XP system with a PCMCIA slot there's software that can read and write the cards. -- Eric Dittman dittman(a)dittman.net

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