- test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org - classiccmp.org

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

In a message dated 11/3/2003 2:19:51 PM Eastern Standard Time, healyzh(a)aracnet.com writes: << Can you get something called "Zap-A-Gap"? I'm not sure where all you can get it, I know that I used to use it for wargamming miniatures, and it's a lot like "Super Glue", but better. I was able to find it at both gaming places, and I think hardware stores (I think I last found some about 3-4 years ago). The stuff is far better than Testor's ever was. Something else that you can do with Superglue is to use a piece of Kleenex to strengthen the piece in question (unless it's to close of a fit to other stuff). One thing to be sure and do if possible is test any glue on a piece of the same type of material that you don't care about. Zane >> zap-a-gap is cryanocrylate glue, used for building RC planes. It's a thicker version so it sets up slower and can be used where parts are not a perfect fit. The thin version sets fast, but cannot accomodate cracks in fitment. Hobby shops sell various types including an accelerator spray that will make any cryo glue set and harden immediately. ah, memories of that smell!

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Non crap plastic glue

by cb＠mythtech.net

>Can you get something called "Zap-A-Gap"? I'm not sure where all you can >get it, I know that I used to use it for wargamming miniatures, I used to live by that stuff for miniatures. It was about the only thing I found that consistantly bonded lead figures with any strength. I'd normally be afriad to admit that in public... but I'm sure I'm not the only geek on this list :-) -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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Non crap plastic glue

by cb＠mythtech.net

> Have you tried going to a >hobby shop and asking the proprietor what they would suggest? Yeah, I got two responses... 1: Use Testor's plastic model glue, and if that doesn't hold 2: buy a new gear. Of course, all the hobby shops around here deal with crappy plastic models or slightly less than crappy (one step above Toys R Us) remote control cars. So they don't grasp that some gears aren't available for easy purchase. They are just trying to satisfy the local 13 year old's that whine about wanting a cool RC car and the occasional helicopter. Everything left in my immediate area is just a specialized toy store. And I won't get into what the people at the toy stores tell me to use (the local Toys R Us doesn't even stock plastic model glue... yet they have a row of plastic models... when I asked how you were supposed to assemble them, I was told they all snap together... when I pointed out the box loads of ones that DON'T snap together and need glue, I was told they come with glue... and when I pointed out the boxes that specifically state that it does NOT come with glue... I was told "hold on, I'll go check on that" and the guy ran away from me). -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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Non crap plastic glue

by cb＠mythtech.net

>You might try the glue used for plastic plumbing; it seems to do a >rather nice job, and should be available at any plumbing or home >improvement store. I hadn't thought about that since I assumed it was for PVC only. I happen to have a plumber in right now (relocating a kitchen here at work), so I'll ask him if I can use a quick brushing of his glue. Thanks! -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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SCO Open Desktop 1.0.1 stuff available

by r_beaudry＠hotmail.com

Hello all, I recently got a bad deal on eBay (my fault, not seller's), and ended up with a partial set of SCO's Open Desktop Developer System 1.0.1. The following stuff is available from me, for the cost of shipping alone (and if you wanted to throw in some extra, I won't complain :-), but it's not necessary). Manuals: - Open Desktop Administrator's Guide - paperback, fair condition, binding taped, no writing/highlighting - Open Desktop Development System Developer's guide - paperback, sealed - X Toolkit - sealed 3-ring binder - Motif Programmer's Guide - sealed 3-ring binder - Motif Reference - sealed 3-ring binder - Network Development System - sealed 3-ring binder - X Library - sealed 3-ring binder - Open SQL - used, but in good condition, 3-ring binder, no writing/highlighting Diskettes: - SCO CGI - 2 disks, "Volume 1" and "Volume 2", also labeled "Media: 135dshd", "Type: n286", "Release: 1.1.0e" - Open Desktop ODT-DATA Development System EFS - 2 disks, "Vol: 1" and "Vol: 2", also labeled "Media: 135dshd", "Type: n386", "Release: 1.0" - Open Desktop Development System - 5 disks, Volume 15-20, also labeled "Media: 135dshd", "Type: u386", "Release: 1.0.1" Please send email off-list if interested in any of these items. Include a ZIP code for shipping quotes. If more than one person is interested, I'll pick from a hat to be fair to digest and international list members. Thanks! Rich B.

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DEC terminal server 300

by Andreas.Freiherr＠Vishay.com

Chris, sorry to chime in unexpectedly. Did you set up the ports used for consoles to allow remote access from the LAN (DEFINE PORT n ACCESS REMOTE, then LOGOUT PORT n)? - I have no experience with reverse Telnet on this device, but this should at least give you a chance to associate port n with a service and then connect to the service (either from another port m on the DECserver, or via SET HOST/LAT from a VAX). This is LAT terminology, but I think the ACCESS REMOTE setting is required for reverse Telnet as well. Alternatively, ACCESS DYNAMIC would allow you to either connect from the VT220 on any other port m to DECserver port n with a console on it, or >from VMS' console device (SET HOST/DTE OPA0:) through port n to anything else. ACCESS LOCAL forbids any access from the LAN to the port. Connections can only be initiated from the port itself. This is the default setting. And, if you cannot get it going, throw the DECserver at me! ;-) Regards, Andreas P.S.: Of course, since you have VMS, once you set the port to ACCESS REMOTE or DYNAMIC, you can even create a LATnnnn: device that represents the DECserver port, e.g., in LAT$SYSTARTUP.COM. For this to work, you don't necessarily need to associate a service with the port. Chris Craft wrote: > Fred, or anyone... > I have a DECserver 300 (DSRVF-B) that I wish to use as a console server for > my VAXherd (Many VS3100, a couple of uVAX-II, VS2000). I'm unsure of how to > configure it to be able to serve the consoles over telnet, or even selectable > from one of the other ports to a VT220. I have played with the configuration > for hours, but seem to be missing the magic words. I have no documentation > for the beastie, but can boot it over MOP and get it running, so all I'll > need is an example or a pointer to some documentation. > > Many thanks in advance. > > Met vriendelijke groet/Mit freundlichem Gru?/Kind regards, > Chris --- KI0EW > Incurable VAXherd > -- Andreas Freiherr Vishay Semiconductor GmbH, Heilbronn, Germany http://www.vishay.com

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Semi OT: 20ma loop troubleshooting

by thompson＠new.rr.com

I am trying to set up a Black Box '20ma loop to serial' converter box on an existing, known working 20ma loop which currently drives a couple of 20ma terminals. There is a note in the black box manual that the device won't work on analog current loop. Am I correct in assuming that an analog current loop is one where an analog instrument is sending its 'telemetry' over the loop? A 20ma loop terminal obviously would not fit into that category I am assuming. The folks I am working with seem to have tried the obvious. They only want the black box device to receive data so they have hooked on the appropriate wires so far no output. Any obivous gotcha's with this technology? Paul --

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Hummer / Asteroids TV commercial

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

In a message dated 11/2/2003 9:06:37 PM Eastern Standard Time, vcf(a)siconic.com writes: > On Sun, 2 Nov 2003, Fred Cisin wrote: > > >>Hummer: Everything That's Wrong With America > > > >There are many things that are wrong; not just the Hummer. > > I know, but to me, the Hummer represents it all in one nice, tidy, slickly > commercialized package. > > -- > > Sellam Ismail The H2 is also for men who are trying to make up for their personal shortcomings IYKWIM. --

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OKIDATA OL830 LASER JET PRINTER - ERROR ENGINE FAN PROBLEM

by jhfinexgs2＠compsys.to

To be more specific: OKIDATA OL830 LED PAGE PRINTER Model No. EN257OHA When the power is applied, after a few seconds the front LED shows: "INITIALIZING" followed a few seconds later by the error message: ERROR ENGINE FAN PROBLEM At that point, the SERVICE LED turns red. Otherwise, everything else looks and sounds normal. I have managed to remove the top plastic portion of the case (two bolts at the front). Of course, when the power is applied in this case, the error is "COVER OPEN". The fan at the back rear on the left is free spinning, but is seems doubtful that is the problem. Had anyone the knowledge as to what might be wrong and how it can be fixed? Sincerely yours, Jerome Fine -- If you attempted to send a reply and the original e-mail address has been discontinued due a high volume of junk e-mail, then the semi-permanent e-mail address can be obtained by replacing the four characters preceding the 'at' with the four digits of the current year.

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RGB monitor checkout

by tradde＠excite.com

Is there an easy way to verify an RGB monitor is good? I don't appear to have any video equipment that provides RGB output. This monitor also has a separate sync input. Thanks for any suggestions. Tim R _______________________________________________ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web!

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Strange PCBs found at hamfest - GPIB?

by philpem＠dsl.pipex.com

Hi all, I've just come back from the hamfest with yet more junk. Besides the large quantity of LEDs, LCD displays and magazines, I picked up a set of PCBs. Two of them are marked 'IHR "CSG" 1B' - these are fitted with four TIL311s each, as well as loads of 74LS logic ICs, circa 1981. There's also an IDC connector and some form of power connector. Next up is a 10-key keyboard - complete with 74C922 keyboard controller IC. This one bears the text 'keyboard (0-9) JRT'. A nice addition to my junk box :) Finally, I've got two boards with Fairchild (?) "96LS488DC 8128 USA" ICs fitted. One of them consists solely of a pair of IDC connectors, a power conector, a PAL12H6C (Monolithic Memories - there's a name I haven't heard for a while), an 8-way dipswitch and a pair of 74LS chips. This board is marked "IHR GPIB ADAPTER / MRC INSTITUTE OF HEARING RESEARCH". The last board has the same Fairchild chip (ceramic with brass cover) as the other board, but with four IDC connectors, loads of 74LS logic chips, three power connectors and a 5-way DIP switch. The board is marked "MRC IHR Controller / (C) MRC 1982". Can someone tell me what the 96LS488DC is? From what I can tell, it's a GPIB controller, whatever GPIB is. I'm still after a datasheet - nothing on Google besides a Chipdir listing. Sorry if this is off-topic - these boards seem to have come out of a computer of some form and I would like to know if any listmembers have heard of or seen anything similar. As far as the ten-year-rule goes, I think I'm well within the cutoff limit - these boards all carry dates of 1983 or earlier. Later. -- Phil. | Acorn Risc PC600 Mk3, SA202, 64MB, 6GB, philpem(a)dsl.pipex.com | ViewFinder, Ethernet (Acorn AEH62), http://www.philpem.dsl.pipex.com/ | 8xCD, framegrabber, Teletext ... Batteries not included.

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DG terminal

by jwest＠classiccmp.org

The DG terminal I am looking for is the one pictured at this URL. Can someone tell me what model it is for sure? http://www.simulogics.com/museum/N4_1.JPG Thanks! Jay West

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[ot] anyone experienced with ibm personal power series 830?

by trash_tmp＠poczta.onet.pl

some time ago i found a mainboard from IBM Personal Power Systems 830. it's a PReP (or CHRP, i'm not sure) from about 1995[1]. i don't have a parity SIMMs and a cache module, that this machine was originally equipped with. yesterday it was working fine. well, almost - i couldn't figure out how to make it boot netbsd, it got hang after loading the image, however it could load SMS and pass all the test without problems. nevermind. one of things i tried was to update firmware to the latest (v1.10, from p8x0_110.exe, downloaded from ibm ftp site) version. now, during boot, when displaying the memory icon it makes a short beep and hangs, w/o any error icon. can anybody experienced with this hardware tell me, what should i do now? i guess nobody at ibm tested it without parity memory and without l2 cache module. should i get parity simm's, or a good soldering iron and memory flasher? silly me. before updating, i got into a firmware command line and made it load new firmware into memory and jump to it's entry point. it hanged in the exact same way it does now, except it showed an 'error 00020000' icon. i thought, 'well, it tries to reinit some device that does not like it'... and flashed the verified-not-to-work firmware into rom. [1]. so, strictly speaking, it's offtopic here. it wasn't too popular, however, and this is the most appropriate mailing list i found.

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Um, was there a...

by rhudson＠cnonline.net

Is it just me or was there a small cp/m machine named the Ortrana Attache?

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Friden 130 (All-electronic calculator, 1963) on EBay

by wmaddox＠pacbell.net

I believe this machine used an acoustic delay-line memory. A very nice piece of history. Item number: 2762297741 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2762297741&category=1247… --Bill

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VCF 6.0 in 3D

by rivie＠ridgenet.net

I've posted the pictures I took at VCF 6.0 over at http://anachronda.webhop.org/~rivie/VCF6.0/ They're primarily of the Computer History Museum's collection because I like to take 3D pictures. Since I don't have a 3D camera, this involves taking two pictures, one while leaning slightly each way. People tend to move between shots, so pictures of crowded areas don't work out too well. Two view the 3D, you need to be able to either cross your eyes or make them parallel while focussing independently. If you were able to see those Magic Eye 3D art thingies that were popular a few years ago, you can do the latter; the rightmost pair of each 3D group is for you. If you cross your eyes (like me), you'll want to look at the leftmost pair. Maybe I'll be able to put together some sort of exhibit for VCF7.0 so I can have access to the exhibit area before it gets crowded... -- Roger Ivie rivie(a)ridgenet.net

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HP terminal wanted

by jwest＠classiccmp.org

Well, looks like I lost the ebay auction for a 2648 terminal, because I only bid a tiny amount and forgot about the auction until 10 minutes after it was over. Serves me right for the sniping tactic. So.. anyone have a decent condition 2647 or 2648 terminal they will trade or sell? Thanks! Jay

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Latency test post 8:01 pm PST

by jpl15＠panix.com

Let's Experiment... J.

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list post response times

by jwest＠classiccmp.org

Well, the last few tests posts to the list came back to me in under 5 minutes. I have been doing a lot of tinkering with mailman settings and sendmail. Still have some additional ideas I want to try out over the next few days, but just thought I'd let peeps know what wierdness may be afoot. I am pretty sure I can speed it up more. Your position on the recipient list used to be important, people at the top got responses immediately, people at the bottom waited forever. Now I've got a max recipients of 10 and multiple queue runners fired off and it seems lots better. But as I said, still have more testing I will be doing over the next week or two. By the way, if any cctech'ers ONLY get this email, please reply back to me, need to test that too. If it is after 10/31/03, don't reply :) Jay

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ok, another test, sorry - please ignore

by jwest＠classiccmp.org

Jay

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info on Data General 6243 terminal?

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

Does anyone have any info on the Data General model 6243 terminal? I found sites that talk about various programs that emulate it but nothing else. Joe

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books & student colorimeter on ebay

by redodd＠comcast.net

Hello, I have some old computer books and a cheap colorimeter for auction on ebay. Might be of interest for someone. Thanks. http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewSellersOtherItems&userid=ralphd&r… Ralph

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FTP software?

by jontitus＠comcast.net

Some time ago, members of our group suggested several alternatives to Ipswitch's WS_FTP Pro software for file transfer. I no longer have those emails, so if anyone has a particular favorite, I'd like to hear about it. An off-line email is fine. Thanks. Jon Titus

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testing - again... last test I think for today

by jwest＠classiccmp.org

another test, please ignore --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus]

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You're not dreaming (Was: Um, was there a...)

by r_a_feldman＠hotmail.com

Sellam wrote: >On Thu, 30 Oct 2003, David Vohs wrote: >>One even flew on the space shuttle! I suppose this was before they changed >>to GRiDs. Can anyone confirm? >As far as I know, the GRiD Compass went up on the first Shuttle flight. Or >at least, I'm certain it went up before an Attache did, since the Attache >wasn't produced until well after the GRiD was around. One site puts the >Attache at 1984, which sounds appropriate. -- Sellam Ismail My copy of the FAUG Newsletter 5#2 of Summer 1985 said that astronaut Ronald Parise was scheduled to take his Otrona Attache on a shuttle flight on March 6, 1986. However, checking Parise's NASA bio, he did not get into space until 1990, so I doubt that the Otrona went with him then. I hadn't read the piece closely before, and thought the it was a report of a past flight, not a future one. So, it remains unconfirmed, and unlikely, that an Otrona Attache went up on a shuttle filght. Bob _________________________________________________________________ See when your friends are online with MSN Messenger 6.0. Download it now FREE! http://msnmessenger-download.com

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testing #3 please ignore

by jwest＠classiccmp.org

testing, please ignore --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus]

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test number 2 please ignore

by jwest＠classiccmp.org

testing - please ignore --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus]

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test please ignore

by jwest＠classiccmp.org

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Kaypro 2X starts up with silly display

by chrisc＠addpower.com

For what it's worth, when this sort of thing happened with a Commodore, it usually meant one of the ROMs had a problem. I never did own a Kaypro, though... Tobias Otto-Adamczak To: "General Discussion: On-Topic Posts Only" <cctech(a)classiccmp.org> <toa7d3(a)arcor.de> cc: Sent by: Subject: Re: Kaypro 2X starts up with silly display cctech-bounces@clas siccmp.org 10/31/2003 02:58 PM Please respond to "General Discussion: On-Topic Posts Only" Here are a few more details regarding the problem: I didn't start my Kaypro 2X for several years. Some weeks ago I gave it a short try and everything seemed to be okay except for the keyboard. Due to corrosion many keys didn't react. So I gave it to a friend, who first tested all the keys to see which were in need to be cleaned. The display was still okay at that time. Then he opened the keyboard and cleaned the contacts inside the keyswitches (he had to solder them out in order to do that). When he had finished the cleaning he assembled and reconnected the keyboard and started the computer. From that time the display went silly: - The powerup message shows up at random coordinates, however some of the coordinates are okay (see http://home.arcor.de/toa/tmp/kaypro-defekt.jpg). There are a lot of additional characters, most of them are '?' (n with ~ above). A few of the characters are blinking or show up with low intensity. Effect is the same with or without keyboard connected. Everytime I hit the reset button I see another random distribution. - When you type something on the keyboard (at the CP/M prompt) the characters show up at random coordinates but the blinking cursor moves in the way one would expect (one step to the right for each character, 3rd position of new line when you hit return). W/o any keyboard input the display is stable except for the blinking chars. - When you type in CP/M commands (I still have all the disks) they get executed but the output characters show up at random coordinates (see http://home.arcor.de/toa/tmp/kaypro-dir.jpg for an output of "dir"). Has anyone schematics for the Kaypro 2X? Any hints what to do next? Tobias

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WTB/T: RL02/01, QBUS SMD

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Oct 31, 1:29, Patrick Finnegan wrote: > Well, I've tried hooking my RL02 up to a new controller, and it still doesn't > turn off the "FAULT" light. Is there a working terminator on the second connector on the drive? -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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WTB/T: RL02/01, QBUS SMD

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Oct 31, 8:05, Pat wrote: > On Friday 31 October 2003 03:25, Pete Turnbull wrote: > > Is there a working terminator on the second connector on the drive? > > There *should* be... this is the second terminator I've tried and it still > doesn't work, but I am not sure if the terminator works. Of course, I'm more > likely to suspect the drive than the terminator I'm using... Looks like it. If you've tried two terminators and two controllers, all that's left is the cable or the drive. I assume you've got the ribbon cable from the controller to the bulkhead connector round the right way. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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Another EBAY item, I wish I could get

by rhudson＠cnonline.net

HP 2116B Computer System RARE!! Vintage 1969 or so it says: url = http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/ eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2761963221&category=1247 oh well, so far it's only up to 99.00

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Fwd: Tape conversion

by kyrrin＠bluefeathertech.com

Could someone try to give this fellow a hand, please? I've long since been out of the media-conversion market. Thanks much. *********** BEGIN FORWARDED MESSAGE *********** On 31-Oct-03 at 22:03 Steve Waechter <stevew(a)alliantdisclosure.com> wrote: >Hey Bruce >A couple of years ago you said you could dump 3480 tapes. >(in an email conversation) >Anyway, how about 3490E and 9 track reels? >Nothing needs to be done to them, just binary copied to a CD. >Steve > >(steevo in nanae) > >Steve Waechter > >Alliant Disclosure Services Inc. >Voice (714) 257-2333 >Fax (714) 242-1313 >www.alliantdisclosure.com > *********** END FORWARDED MESSAGE *********** -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Bruce Lane, Owner & Head Hardware Heavy, Blue Feather Technologies -- http://www.bluefeathertech.com ARS KC7GR (Formerly WD6EOS) since 12-77 -- kyrrin(a)bluefeathertech.com "Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati" (Red Green, aka Steve Smith)

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Available: Compaq Deskpro 386/20e Manuals/Diskette

by classiccmp＠earthlink.net

I have an "Operations Guide" binder for the Compaq Deskpro 386/20e available for $1 plus the cost of shipping. The binder includes these manuals: - Getting Started - System Overview - User Programs Reference - User Programs Reference Addendum - Creating a Comfortable Work Environment - Kingston Expansion Memory Boards - Installation - Options - Publications Reference - New Features, 386/25e and 286/20e Personal Computers Also included is a floppy disk: - Compaq ISA Setup/Diagnostic Ver 8.03, March 1, 1993 If you're interested, please send an email stating your interest, your preferred method of shipping, and how you would like to pay for the shipping and handling. Thanks, Dave Jenner

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Is there a physicist in the house?

by GOOI＠oce.nl

Well, from what I understood from quantum physics, it is *not* possible to know location and speed (spin) at the *same* time. Also when you measure the <thing> (particle) you *influence* its behaviour. Note that I never had any quantum physics course, but this is what I seem to remember from watching the Discovery Channel. Paramount has a technician on their pay role for technical correctness in the StarTrek series. So, when they use the transporter to change matter in energy and then, at an other location, materialise the object/person from energy they have to solve the problem of the "uncertainty principle" formulated by the German (von?) Heisenberg. To make the transporter in a technical way plausible they added the "Heisenberg compensation coils" to solve the above described problem. Now, *how* those Heisenberg compensation coils operate, that's a complete different story ... have a nice weekend all, - Henk. > -----Original Message----- > From: Roger Merchberger [mailto:zmerch@30below.com] > Sent: vrijdag 31 oktober 2003 7:41 > To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts > Subject: Re: Is there a physicist in the house? > > > At 22:36 10/30/2003 -0600, you wrote: > > >Heisenberg says we can't know the speed of <thing> and it's > location at > >the same time. > > IANAP (;-) but I would think that for this to be true, it > would have to be > an infinitely short period of time... > > > >What if I concentrate on location while timing <thing> > > > >ie <thing> is at "5" and 1 second later it's at "35" is it > not going "30" > >per second? > >and while it was going 30 per second didn't I see it at 5 and 35? > > 1) Not enough information to form an hypothesis... Is <thing> > going in a > straight line or circle? (I was actually thinking chain > printers when I > read this... > ;-) > > 2) your statement of '30 per second' *assumes* it's at a > constant speed... > what if it's not? It could have started at '20 per second' > and ended at '50 > per second'... > > 3) When you said "see it at 5 and 35" if you meant to append > "At The Same > Time" then it would have to be at two places at once... which > is a totally > different problem... ;-) > > 4) This might actually help: Once you saw it at 35, and using > the time it > took to calculate that it was going "30 per hour," it's not > technically at > 35 anymore, so 1) isn't at that location and/or 2) could have > changed speed > by that time... so the next time you 'saw' it at a new > location (let's say > 35.5) it has either changed speed or location... > > >(note to a real physicist this question is probably meaningless...) > > Note: I'm just a stupid geek... so these answers are probably > meaningless... > ;-) > > Just my 0.000000000002 (wishing physics were required > teaching in school...), > > Roger "Merch" Merchberger

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WTB/T: RL02/01, QBUS SMD

by TRASH3＠splab.cas.neu.edu

Pat, if you are willing to wait (until I get to firing it up again), I have at least one and possibly 3 SC02 emulex SMD q-bus disk controllers with manuals. They are hooked to some fujitsu drives (80 MB 8 inch and 240Mb 14 inch). I have to plug them in again and retrieve the data from the drives, and then I am going to deep-six the drives. It's on my list to do so, as I need to clean up, but I have lots going on at that site. It is a research lab at northeastern university, and I only get there a day or two a week. Joe Heck

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Rockwell R6765 datasheet?

by dwight.elvey＠amd.com

check out: http://www.htl-steyr.ac.at/~morg/pcinfo/hardware/ interrupts/hard0001.htm#NEC ?PD765 Dwight >From: ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk > >> >> Hi, >> I've just bought a pair of Rockwell R6765 ICs (allegedly clones of the NEC >> 765 Floppy Disc Controller). Does anyone have a datasheet for these ICs? > >Yes, I have a datasheet, and yes they're pretty close to the 765 (I can't >see any obvious differences...). Is there anything specific you need to know > >> I do have a copy of the NEC 765 datasheet, but in true Murphy's Law >> fashion, most of it is unreadable. > >You mean this is _not_ on the web somewhere? It's a very common IC.... > >-tony >

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WTB/T: RL02/01, QBUS SMD

by pat＠purdueriots.com

Well, I've tried hooking my RL02 up to a new controller, and it still doesn't turn off the "FAULT" light. Does anyone within a day's drive of Lafayette, IN have a spare that they'd be willing to trade or sell to me for semi-inexpensively? It'd be nice to fix this drive, but I'm not sure if I have the time right now to spend on it... Also, I'm looking for a QBUS SMD disk controller card, if anyone has one for similar terms as the RL0[1|2], except this is small enough to ship if you're willing. As far as trades go, I've got some QBUS PDP-11/VAX hardware, other DEC VAX machines, some DECstation 5000's and a couple of DEC 3000 (Alpha) machines I'd be willing to put up in trade. I've also got a smattering of IBM RS/6000 (Microchannel) hardware. Just tell me what you're interested in and I'll see what I can come up with. Thanks! Pat -- Purdue University ITAP/RCS Information Technology at Purdue Research Computing and Storage http://www.itap.purdue.edu/rcs/

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Wyse WY-60 terminals available

by vcf＠siconic.com

I have about 8 Wyse Wy-60 terminals with keyboards available. Most have burn in, though not that bad. They are still visually adequate. One has no burn-in. If anyone's interested, you can have as many as you want for shipping. For the one without burn-in, I'd like 1.2 * shipping. These make great all-around terminals. They're relatively small and compact, modernish with nice on-screen setup features. Contact me privately... -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org [ Old computing resources for business || Buy/Sell/Trade Vintage Computers ] [ and academia at www.VintageTech.com || at http://marketplace.vintage.org ]

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AVL Road Runner computer????

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

I stopped at a scrap place today and spotted an AVL Road Runner computer there. It looks similar to a Commie 64 but is slightely smaller and marked Road Runner on the top hump. There was also an external monitor with about a 5" screen marked AVL with it. Also has two external floppy disk drives, both marked AVL. Each drive is full height 5 1/4". Also has an AVL marked "expander" box that's made of metal and about 14" x 12" x 2". The expander box had sockets for the floppy drives, two video sockets and a couple of others that I don't remember. IIRC one video socket with a RCA type and the other was a PL-259. There was also a separate AVL keyboard there. It had a metal back and ends and was similar to the ones used for Kaypros and other early portable computers. It seaparate from the rest of the sysstem so it MAY NOT be part of it but what's the chances of finding parts for two different AVL ssystems in the same location? Everything painted a dark grey color. Does anyone here know what this is? Joe

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FA: HP 9816

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

Spotted on E-bay <http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2762638304&category=1247 >. It's hard to find these with the original small keyboard. Most users bought the larger "Nimitz" keyboards. Joe

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New member introduction, questions on HP 21XX series machines, reliability and maintainability

by wmaddox＠pacbell.net

Hi, all. I just joined the list. I've had a long-time interest in old computers, and rescued a "straight-8" many years ago when I didn't think anyone else thought of it as anything more than junk. It was at least minimally operable when I obtained it, but I went off to graduate school before I could find any software for it, and it's been in storage at my father's office in Florida for ~15 years now. I hope to move it to my current location in the next few months after a family visit, but in the meantime, I'm looking to acquire another minicomputer from the core memory era, hopefully something slightly more compactly packaged than the (presently rackless) rack-mount "8". After some research, I have settled on the HP21xx line as a good candidate. These seem to be very nice, well-built machines with a reasonable architecture, a good paper-tape BASIC, and a full complement of "blinkenlights". It seems that these machines are actually still used, however, and I've been quoted some pretty steep prices from a nearby dealer in in used HP gear. I'd be interested in comments and advice for a prospective 21xx owner from those on the list who own these machines or have used them. I'm particularly concerned about reliability, since at the price I expect to pay, I want to keep it operating for a long time to come. How difficult and expensive are they to troubleshoot and keep working (say, compared to DEC PDP-8)? How available are contemporary replacements and/or new old stock for the ICs? Are there any proprietary components that are particularly prone to failure or hard to replace that I absolutely must obtain up-front as spares? What about the core stacks themselves? The dealer that I talked to seemed to think these were problematic (though I did not speak with his technicians), while my instinct would be that the core itself (not the driver electronics) would be among the most reliable and stable components, barring visible corrosion damage. Also, any suggestions on places to look for these machines on the cheap would be welcomed. What I'm most looking for is a 2115, but would likely be interested in the somewhat later 2100 as well. Thanks, Bill

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Rockwell R6765 datasheet?

by philpem＠dsl.pipex.com

Hi, I've just bought a pair of Rockwell R6765 ICs (allegedly clones of the NEC 765 Floppy Disc Controller). Does anyone have a datasheet for these ICs? I do have a copy of the NEC 765 datasheet, but in true Murphy's Law fashion, most of it is unreadable. Thanks. -- Phil. | Acorn Risc PC600 Mk3, SA202, 64MB, 6GB, philpem(a)dsl.pipex.com | ViewFinder, Ethernet (Acorn AEH62), http://www.philpem.dsl.pipex.com/ | 8xCD, framegrabber, Teletext Seen on T-shirts at NASA: WILL BUILD SPACE STATION FOR FOOD.

22 years, 5 months

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AVL Road Runner computer????

by Innfogra＠aol.com

AVL Roadrunners are controllers for multiple slide projector shows. I have only seen standalone ones like the commodore type you mentioned. Since this one had video it is probably for adding or switching video in a multimedia show. That thing is probably Z80 or 8 bit controlled, maybe STD bus. All of the pieces go together. This must have been a high end system, probably worth saving. IIRC AVL stands for Audio Video Laboratories.

22 years, 5 months

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cctalk Digest, Vol 2, Issue 40

by stevew＠ka6s.com

I can't tell you specifically, but I worked with the 6300's for some time back in the mid 80's. If I remember, they had a generic 10Mb drive, so I would imagine a Seagate 225 would be about the right generation. The floppies were black on the units we used, and were also otherwise unremarkable. The floppy controller I can't comment on, other than I would imagine an ISA controller would work with them. As far as I could tell, the 6300 series were essentially an IBM clone minus the basic. They ran MSDos and PCDos equally well. Steve Wilson

22 years, 5 months

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Kaypro 2X starts up with silly display

by jwstephens＠msm.umr.edu

Tobias Otto-Adamczak wrote: right place to ask, hopefully someone has a schematic. I'd say that you have something bad in the data path fromt he cpu to the video chip (obviously). Since it is painting the the screen in a stable fashion, I'd think the video portion of the chip, and memory is working, but the data and commands into that chip and circuitry is scrabmbled. Does the display stay stable, or do the characters change w/o any keyboard input? If they do, then you may have other damage too. Did you drop it, or know of any event related to the start of the symptoms? Might help others here help you if so. Jim

22 years, 5 months

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Another EBAY item, I wish I could get

by dwight.elvey＠amd.com

Hi There is another 2116B on ebay but the fellow must think it is a little rarer. He is starting at $1200. Dwight >From: Joe <rigdonj(a)cfl.rr.com> > >At 09:19 PM 10/29/03 -0600, you wrote: >>HP 2116B Computer System RARE!! Vintage 1969 >> >>or so it says: >> >>url = >>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/ >>eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2761963221&category=1247 >> >>oh well, so far it's only up to 99.00 >> >> > > Damm! Why is this stuff always on the wrong side of the continent? > > Joe > >

22 years, 5 months

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ADMIN: another RFC

by jwest＠classiccmp.org

This guy asked nicely to join the list.. I asked him what he collects and below is the response I got. As I said before, I don't intend to post these kinds of emails to the list, but this one I'm a little torn on and not sure what to do. Do you guys think this person should be on the list? Let him on with a warning? I'm kinda leaning towards "no", but... You guys tell me! Jay ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Rowe" <browe58(a)comcast.net> To: "Jay West" <jwest(a)classiccmp.org> Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 4:56 PM Subject: RE: membership to your mailing list > hi jay, > > i buy/sell surplus computer and test and measurement equipment so i have a > warehouse full of vintage stuff such as...... > > _ industrial computer source model 8630-rm-8mb > _ ibm 7015 > _ texas micro systems 3014 > _ digital technology dti-5750 fddi network analyzer > _ proteon p4200-31 > _ american automation ez-pro development system aa545/546 68k in circuit > emulator > _ dec microvax II > _ force computers teraforce-2ce model summa 4 tera > _ magnetic peripherals removable storage drive > _ zenith vsb modulator > _ nortel fmt-150c fiber multiplex terminal > _ tekelec > _ radisys > _ first pacific networks telephone interface unit model tiu178 > _ bellcore network services test unit > _ tau-tron > > > to name a few. thnax. > > bill

22 years, 5 months

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list change

by GOOI＠oce.nl

> -----Original Message----- > From: Pete Turnbull [mailto:pete@dunnington.u-net.com] > Sent: woensdag 29 oktober 2003 22:47 > To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts > Subject: Re: list change > > > On Oct 28, 22:22, Vintage Computer Festival wrote: > > On Tue, 28 Oct 2003, Pete Turnbull wrote: > > > > Because it's not two lists. It's two views of the same list -- > > > It's sort of like Quantum Physics. Only more complicated. > > Yup, more uncertainty principles :-) > > -- > Pete Peter Turnbull > Network Manager > University of York > Yes, for that we can install the Heisenberg coils to compensate. - Henk.

22 years, 5 months

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HP 262x terminal help sought (Going OT)(Overthe top)

by mmcfadden＠cmh.edu

In line with the protein glue idea, maybe the only thing that keeps the mold from normally growing is the x-rays created when the system is on. Store the system = no x-rays I therefore coin the slogan "Terminals use them or they will grow on you" It may be that x-ray sterilization may be the explanation of some of our behaviors while collecting computers. Mike (may be sterile and not even know it)

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