Hello Tony,
I am having a little problem finding info for this part and I found you
comment on the internet that you have the databook.
I am doing a small repair that calls out for ZN448E-8 but I only found
info on ZN448E.
Are these the same part? Any information is much appreciated.
Regards,
Andrew
Hi.
Nice to know
these
listings have
been found.
The game
brings back
fond
memories.
The 2000
was the first
mini I
programmed
on, in
college.
I have read
all the
replies, and
no one has
suggested
what I am
about to
suggest,
so here it is:
In order to
do a really
good job of
sanity
checking, it
would help if
we could
see
the listings
to compare
with what
has-been/wil
l-be typed.
People will
want to
port it to
other close
version of
basic
(hp-eloquen
ce) or
BASICV on
the 3000,
and
a typo is
always a
problem with
languages
that dont
necessarily
declare
variables
before
assigning
things to it.
So, if you
had a way of
scanning the
listings and
making them
available on
your web
site,
that would
be a boon
to
everyone.
Assuming
the listings
are in good
enough
shape to
scan.
As well, you
could then
spread to
work around!
Just my 2
cents
worth...
Thanks
Michel Adam
micheladam
@theedge.c
a
----- Original
Message
-----
From: Pete
Turnbull
<pete@dunn
ington.u-net.
com>
Date:
Monday,
November
10, 2003
4:17 pm
Subject: HP
2000 BASIC
help /
TREK73
> I need
some help
with some
HP 2000
BASIC. I
probably
last used it
> around
1980, and
not often
even then
for
somehow
the PDP-8s
looked
>
moreattracti
ve than the
grey HP box
in the same
room. Yeah,
I know
>
betternow.
Luckily, I'm
sure some
of you can
help me
out...
>
> I've been
retyping
TREK73
>from a fairly
poor-quality
listing, and it
> needs a
sanity
check. Also
I'd like to
learn a bit
more about
what
> I'mtyping.
This is the
original
source for
the Star
Trek
program by
> William
Char and
friends, and
what I've
typed so far
is on my
Star
> Trekweb
page at
http://www.
dunnington.u
-net.com/pu
blic/startrek
/
>
> I've added
some other
stuff to that
page, too.
>
> Questions:
>
> All the
lines have
two spaces
between the
line number
and the
code.
> All, that is,
except for a
few that
have an '@'
in place of
the
>
secondspac
e. Is that
significant
(does it
mean
"ignore this"
or
>
something?)
or is it just
an artifact
of a noisy
Teletype
line?
> (The
listing
> appears
to have
been made
on a
Teletype,
which
needed a
new ribbon
and
> a better
platen
roller.)
>
> What
does '14 in
a PRINT
statement,
in front of a
quoted
string,
> mean(eg
in PRINT
'14"SULU")?
I wondered
if it were
something
like
>
PRINTTAB(1
4)"... but
there are
TAB()s
elsewhere.
A control
character,
> perhaps?
If cursor or
screen
control, are
they octal
or decimal
(I'd
> guess
decimal) and
is there a
table
anywhere?
>
> What
exactly do
the first two
parameters
to the
ENTER
command
do?
>
Theyalways
seem to
have three
variables
(eg ENTER
T2,T,X$).
>
> That'll do
for now :-)
>
> If anyone
would like to
proofread
what I've
retyped so
far (about
half
> the total)
and check
for obvious
sillies,
please do -
especially in
> TREK0
around line
740 (cf line
840).
Better still, if
anyone is
> willing to
actually try
this out,
please do!
though it
won't work
very
> well with
half of it
missing.
>
> --
> Pete
Peter
Turnbull
>
Network
Manager
>
University of
York
>
> I have some repair info for the OMTI 5000 series, such as pinouts of the
> ASICs, and the like.
>
> -tony
> Useless data for those who care.
What Tony actually has are the ASIC specs for the 5000 series, which
originally came from me, not just the pinouts.
--
> Some time after we had talked to them (and found out about the name), the
> sold it all to SMC
OMTI was sold to SMS, not SMC. See www.bitsavers.com/pdf/sms
Somewhere, I think DTC was connected to all of this as well. I'll have to
ask the people I knew who worked at Shugart.
Hi
This may not even be a s100 board. The height is wrong. Check
the power leads carefully before plugging into a s100. It
does seem to be a complete single board computer.
Dwight
>From: "Ian Primus" <ian_primus(a)yahoo.com>
>
>I recently acquired this board, it appears to be an S100 board, since
>it has the 100 pin connector and voltage regulators onboard. Does
>anyone know what this is, or what it came from? In the upper right
>corner, it says "Dynatech NEWSTAR 1MP481 REV. A (C) 1990" The board has
>a Z80, a 27128 EPROM, an 8k static RAM, some 41c256 DRAMS, a Z80 SIO,
>some RS-232 line driver pairs (1488/1489), and two 26 pin headers,
>which appear to be serial ports.
>
>Here is a picture I took:
>http://24.194.65.231/images/unknownboard.jpg
>
>It appears to be a complete Z80 computer on a board, so I would imagine
>that it would be possible to power it up, and connect a terminal to it,
>but I don't know if it would do anything. Any information on what this
>could be, or what it might do would be appreciated.
>
>Thanks!
>
>Ian Primus
>ian_primus(a)yahoo.com
>
>
I need some help with some HP 2000 BASIC. I probably last used it
around 1980, and not often even then for somehow the PDP-8s looked more
attractive than the grey HP box in the same room. Yeah, I know better
now. Luckily, I'm sure some of you can help me out...
I've been retyping TREK73 from a fairly poor-quality listing, and it
needs a sanity check. Also I'd like to learn a bit more about what I'm
typing. This is the original source for the Star Trek program by
William Char and friends, and what I've typed so far is on my Star Trek
web page at http://www.dunnington.u-net.com/public/startrek/
I've added some other stuff to that page, too.
Questions:
All the lines have two spaces between the line number and the code.
All, that is, except for a few that have an '@' in place of the second
space. Is that significant (does it mean "ignore this" or something?)
or is it just an artifact of a noisy Teletype line? (The listing
appears to have been made on a Teletype, which needed a new ribbon and
a better platen roller.)
What does '14 in a PRINT statement, in front of a quoted string, mean
(eg in PRINT '14"SULU")? I wondered if it were something like PRINT
TAB(14)"... but there are TAB()s elsewhere. A control character,
perhaps? If cursor or screen control, are they octal or decimal (I'd
guess decimal) and is there a table anywhere?
What exactly do the first two parameters to the ENTER command do? They
always seem to have three variables (eg ENTER T2,T,X$).
That'll do for now :-)
If anyone would like to proofread what I've retyped so far (about half
the total) and check for obvious sillies, please do - especially in
TREK0 around line 740 (cf line 840). Better still, if anyone is
willing to actually try this out, please do! though it won't work very
well with half of it missing.
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
University of York
I hate that my backspace key generates some ugly help menu instead of
backspacing
can I do anything about it? (running emacs_nox in xterm under X)
Linux Slackware 3.0 1995 - Emacs.
Thanks..
Any convenient to Greater London (preferably accessible by public
transport)???
Also, what about the continent? I've heard about flea markets in Paris
(Clignancourt and Montreuil come to mind): any computery stuff there?
Thanks!
On Nov 10, 23:53, Eric Smith wrote:
> "John K." <john3000(a)cox.net>
> > some day I'll get my set of HIB tapes back
> [...]
> > there were
> > many games and programs from HP 2000 ACCESS vers. 1812 on that tape
set
> > (which dates from Jan. 1984). I'd love to see them run again.
>
> I've written a package "tsbutils" which contains two programs that
are
> useful with HP 2000 Access hibernate and dump tapes
While they're not immediately useful to me, I've noted that for
reference. What I really would like is an HP 2000 (2100?) emulator.
I've found Jeff Moffat's but not tried it yet. Is there anything else
I should look for?
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
University of York
Well, I hope that didn't turn out too bad. The article is actually about
market values of Sinclair machines and things like the Black Watch and will
be in the Financial Times in a couple of saturdays.
I basically spent an hour deriding ebay and emphasising the historical side
of collecting for exhibition and educational purposes, not financial.
Apparently I'm not the only one he's spoken to that thinks that, though
there's also been others who've said stupid things like 'turn up with a
non-yellowed zx80 and I'll give you ?400 for it'
We both agreed that it was highly unlikely you WOULD get ?400 if you did
that.
The journalist is speaking to a lot more people and at present he's on the
fence between telling people to sell their MK14s now and telling people to
hold onto them. Naturally I told him to tell people to give things like that
to me :o) The current ebay situation with Zebra ZX81 kits is a good example
of how greed can go wrong......
On a sort of unrelated note it's idiot week on ebay again - a battered
looking yellowed ZX80 is currently at ?155 despite it only having the bottom
sorry looking poly, PSU and manual.....many days left to go, too. Meh.
--
adrian/witchy
www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk - the online computer museum
www.snakebiteandblack.co.uk - ex-monthly gothic shenanigans :o(
Since the person who initially wanted this thing never
replied to me, and I now have it here, I guess it's
available to anyone who wants it.
It looks OK, comes with 4 tapes, and the *US* power supply
brick. Not the connecting cable, so it seems.
Do me an entertaining offer, or I'll put it up on ePay.
--f
I have aquired the following Series 80 software on 3.5" and 5.25" discs:
If anyone with any titles not listed below would like to trade email me.
Thanks
HP85
1. Standard Pac
2. Training Pac
3. Math Pac
4. Text Editing Pac
5. Graphics Presentation Pac
6. General Statistics Pac
7. Basic Statistics & Data Manipulation Pac
8. Regression Analysis Pac
9. Linear Programming Pac
10. Waveform Analysis Pac
11. AC Circuit Analysis Pac
12. Data Communications Pac
13. Information Management Pac
14. File Management Pac
15. Assembler
16. Modem Software
17. Speech Synthesis
18. Graphics Tablet (2 discs)
19. VisiCalc Plus
20. Portfolio Management (3 disc set)
HP86/87
1. Math Pac
2. Demonstration Disc
3. Arcade Games Disc
4. Linear Programming Pac
5. General Statistics Pac
6. Basic Statistics & Data Manipulation Pac
7. Data Communications Pac
8. Assembler
9. Modem Software
10. Speech synthesis
11. CP/M Operating System
12. VisiCalc Plus
13. Word/80
14. File for 80 Series (5 disk set)
15. Series 80 Graphic Presentations
16. Portfolio Management (3 disc set)
17. USCD Pascal
Yes, the 5285 is a dumb terminal.
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I read your entry on some bulliten board about your NEC MULTISPEED HD. I
just recently acquired one and it runs fine, just not sure if the backup battery
works. For now Im running it with the original NEC a/c power pack. The only
"problem" that I can find is at the startup it says "bad or missing /dd.bin"
but other than that all directories on the hard drive are accessible and floppy
drive works fine (even though its only a 720kb 3 1/2") If your interested in
this computer, make me an offer and we can work something out.
Thanks
Bryan
----- Original Message -----
From: "Nico de Jong" <nico(a)farumdata.dk>
To: "Geoff Reed" <geoffr(a)zipcon.net>
Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 8:25 AM
Subject: Re: OMT MFM 5200 disk controller board
> Hi Geoff
>
> The 512 and 7250's come in pairs.
> The 512 is an 8 bit SCSI controller. I have the strapping documentation
> available. The 7250 connects to the 512 (cables available).
> The 7250 has the following connectors :
> J1 - 50 pin SCSI interface
> J2 - 34 pin ESDI or MFM disk control connector
> J3, J4 - 20 pin data cable connector
> J7 - 34 pin floppy connector
> J10 - power connector (like 5.25" floppy disk, but DONT connect the +12V.
It
> will fry the board....)
>
> The 512 supports up to seven SCSI devices. It can be strapped to 4 IO
> adresses.
>
> The major thing is the software. Originally, it was used with the EMS
Media
> Conversion software. The card has a BIOS socket, but I've never seen the
> BIOS. A qualified guess is therefore that you can only use the cards if
you
> have the EMS software, unless you can find a BIOS.
> As the software rights were sold to IBM in 1993, I sincerely doubt if I
can
> give you a copy of the software. The EMS company went belly up, and IBM
> bought the assets.
>
> Nico
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Geoff Reed" <geoffr(a)zipcon.net>
> To: <nico(a)farumdata.dk>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 7:59 AM
> Subject: Re: OMT MFM 5200 disk controller board
>
>
> > are the OMTI's you have SASI to MFM cards? I am looking for some for
> > TRS-80 use.
> >
I am looking to repair my OMT 5200 bd and came across your find of these MFM controllers.
Do you still have them and are the boards functional?
Kindly let me know,by E-mail.
Regards
Giles Mascarenhas
No, a very
anchored
Mac 7500
running OS
9.1 and IE
5.1 . It
looked ok on
the screen,
and I only
saw the
result when
the post
came back.
Something
is/was
wrong with
the Java VM
on it, as
best I can
determine.
Time to
downgrade
to OS 8.6...
Hopefully
this reply will
come across
better.
Michel Adam
----- Original
Message
-----
From:
Vintage
Computer
Festival
<vcf@siconi
c.com>
Date:
Tuesday,
November
11, 2003
7:15 pm
Subject: Re:
HP 2000
BASIC help /
TREK73
>
> Was this
message
typed on a
mobile
phone or
something?
:)
>
> On Tue,
11 Nov
2003,
Michel Adam
wrote:
>
> > Hi.
> >
> > Nice to
know
> > these
> > listings
have
> > been
found.
> > The
game
> > brings
back
> > fond
> >
memories.
> >
> > The
2000
> > was the
first
> > mini I
> >
programmed
> > on, in
> > college.
>
>
<snipificatio
n>
>
> --
>
> Sellam
Ismail
Vintage
> Computer
Festival
>
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>
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de Vintage
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>
Hey, how you doing.. I was doing a search for TM990 for work and came across your message.
I work on that antique stuff you have come across. TI had two calculator type programmers.
These units were used with the 5TI sequencers and PM550 PLC's. This stuff is still being used in industry for
controlling machines. I've had to refurbish a couple of the larger calculator type programmers last year.
They are a polled RS232 device that only talks when told to by the PLC / Sequencer.
http://www.datamath.org/
This is where i got the pictures...
There is some thrill rebuilding these things hooking them up and punching in some ladder logic and watching
the flashing lights on the I/O racks..
Some of the stuff you pick up may still bring a decent price on ebay..
Even this old seemingly antique stuff..
Just my .02
Duane Hofstetter
ke8bg(a)triad.rr.com
duaneh(a)delta-control.com
http://www.delta-control.com
I asked this in alt.sys.pdp8, but didn't get the answer, so I will try here:
When I got my PDP-8/i (oh so many years ago), it came with a supply of
flip-chip spares. Among them are 24 M750s, which I can't find any
info about, except the phrase "Line I/O Control".
What are they for? They aren't for any of the 8/i's built-in options,
so there must be an external option that calls for them? Is there a
reason for me to keep so many of the things?
Thanks!
Vince
Try:
http://www.hp-eloquence.com/download/
The package is mainly for a re-implementation of the HP3000
IMAGE
database on different platforms, but it started life when HP
discontinued
the HP 250s years ago, and it includes a version of BASIC that is
probably
closest to the 2000 ACCESS, other than BASIC V on the 3000s.
The latest version has departed from using line numbers, but I
think version 6
still fully support a line-number mode for the basic language.
If not, you may have to go back to version 5.
Michel Adam
----- Original Message -----
From: Pete Turnbull <pete(a)dunnington.u-net.com>
Date: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 5:04 pm
Subject: Re: HP 2000 BASIC help / TREK73
> On Nov 10, 23:53, Eric Smith wrote:
> > "John K." <john3000(a)cox.net>
> > > some day I'll get my set of HIB tapes back
> > [...]
> > > there were
> > > many games and programs from HP 2000 ACCESS vers.
1812 on that
> tapeset
> > > (which dates from Jan. 1984). I'd love to see them run again.
> >
> > I've written a package "tsbutils" which contains two programs
that
> are
> > useful with HP 2000 Access hibernate and dump tapes
>
> While they're not immediately useful to me, I've noted that for
> reference. What I really would like is an HP 2000 (2100?)
emulator.
> I've found Jeff Moffat's but not tried it yet. Is there anything
> elseI should look for?
>
> --
> Pete Peter Turnbull
> Network Manager
> University of York
>
On Nov 11, 9:39, Bill McDermith wrote:
> There is a copy of the 2000F Reference Manual on Al Kossow's site at:
>
> http://www.bitsavers.org/pdf/hp/2000TSB/2000F-rm-300.pdf
>
> That would have answers to your questions...
Undoubtedly. Thanks!
Did that come from Eric Smith? I've read Eric's pages, and found a
link to Jeff Moffat's HP2100 archive.
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
University of York
On Nov 11, 9:02, Joe wrote:
> Pete,
>
> Very cool! You even included the Intel MDS version!
Thank you :-) I can't quite remember why I started collecting so many
different versions of Star Trek, but if anyone has any other
interesting versons, I'd be happy to put them on the page.
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
University of York
Thank you Gene for coming up with the name of the movie that had the CDC equipment in it. This board can get answers to ANY question I do believe.
Bill
On Nov 10, 22:50, Frank McConnell wrote:
> Pete Turnbull <pete(a)dunnington.u-net.com> wrote:
> > All the lines have two spaces between the line number and the code.
> > All, that is, except for a few that have an '@' in place of the
second
> > space.
> Noisy line, most likely. I don't think it has any significance.
OK.
> > What does '14 in a PRINT statement
> The leading single quote outside double quotes is how HP BASIC (2000
> and 3000) represent a non-printable character in a string constant.
> So '14 is decimal 14 as a character, or control-N.
Makes sense.
> > What exactly do the first two parameters to the ENTER command do?
> I don't recall the details clearly, I'm thinking one is a limit in
> seconds on the time the user has to reply, and I'm thinking the other
> is used to return the time it took the user to enter the reply.
That makes sense too.
Thanks to everyone who has replied. Now all I need is a machine to run
it on (or an emulator). Any suggestions?
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
University of York
On Nov 11, 1:27, John K. wrote:
> At 2003-11-10 04:17 PM, Pete Turnbull wrote:
> > I need some help with some HP 2000 BASIC.
> HP 2000 BASIC placed printing characters inside double-quotes (") and
used
> the apostrophe notation for non-printing characters. The apostrophe
was
> followed by the decimal value of the character that belonged at that
point
> in the string. Thus, any character in the extended ASCII character
set
> could be expressed using the apostrophe notation ('0 through '255).
This makes sense.
> The '14 was used to instruct an HP terminal (probably an HP2640,
HP2645, or
> near the end of support for the HP2000 ACCESS, the HP2621 and HP2624)
to
> switch to the alternate (usually line drawing) character set. The
'15 was
> used to switch back to the normal character set.
>From other information about the origin of TREK73 (see Kermit Murray's
page at http://ch309c.chem.lsu.edu/~kmurray/other/trek73/), and knowing
where my listing came from, I'm pretty certain it was intended to be
run using a Teletype [AK]SR33. On that machine, SO (decimal 14 is
Shift Out) would, as far as I remember, switch to the second colour if
you had a two-colour ribbon. And SI (decimal 15) would shift back.
OK, I can see a use for that, though it's slightly odd in that the
lines where it occurs aren't particularly special, and the text is
bracketed by a pair of '14, not by '14 and '15 as I'd expect. My ASR33
only has a black ribbon, so I can't check if SO is cancelled at the end
of a line (I have a feeling it might be). Oh, well, I better finish
typing and find a way of trying it out...
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
University of York
On Nov 10, 21:34, Frank Schickel wrote:
> I programmed a little bit on 2000F and may retain a little
> bit....
[...]
> If it's a straight "LIST" of the program, then the format would
> be a standard format of the line number followed by two spaces; so
> I would bet that the @s are spurious and can be ignored.
OK, I guess it's just line noise, and I'll remove them. There's
another place where there's something that doesn't quite make sense to
me (yet) so I'll have a closer look there too (line 740 in TREK1).
> > What does '14 in a PRINT statement, in front of a quoted string,
mean
>
> I'm not sure about this one, but this may have been a way to print
> control characters in a PRINT statement without using CHR$(). If so,
> what would a control-n do on a teletype? I thought it *might* be
octal,
> but that would make it a form-feed, which wouldn't make much sense
> in the status sections because it would print <FF>TORPEDOES<FF> and
> then the status, which would waste a *lot* of paper....
I wondered about octal, but decimal 14 is Shift Out which makes more
sense. Sort of. See my reply to John K.
> > What exactly do the first two parameters to the ENTER command do?
>
> If I remember rightly, ENTER lets you get
> the time the user takes to enter the input. It looks like it's
probably
> "ENTER <time allowed>, <time taken>, <input>".
I'm sure that's it. The code has provision for various null inputs
too.
> This brings back memories. I never could get into this one, since I
> could never get the proper strategy figured out. I preferred the
> other TREK where you had to eliminate the Klingons in the galaxy....
Oh, I have a few of those online, too :-)
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
University of York
>Apple? Old stuff? Hahaha. I'd be surprised if they still have last
>month's Macintosh model sitting in some back closet somewhere.
Actually, Apple has a testing lab that has a pretty wide range of old
Macs running assorted mac OS versions. Its even free to use if you are an
Apple Developer. The catch is, its in Cupertino, and you have to do the
testing yourself, so unless you are local, or have a good budget, its
tough to use. Poor shareware developers like me have to depend on our own
collection of old macs (of which I just liquidated 95% of my own).
-chris
<http://www.mythtech.net>
Hi!
I once again tried to get my PDP-8/L to run this weekend. Unfortunately
I am not not yet a PDP professional - I don't have a clue what most of
the modules are doing. I started to read the Maintenance Manuals but I
do not quite know where to start. Maybe you can give me a hint:
I tried the "simpler" instructions like set accumulator, or accumulator
with switch reg. etc.
What I did not yet try are the different jump instructions. I will be
more specific as soon as I tried more instructions.
CLA and STA work, i can set all bits in AC. IAC (increment) and all the
rotate instructions however always set AC to 1 completely ignoring the
previous value.
Where should I start looking for the problem? What information do I have
to gather to narrow down the source of the problem?
Regards,
Sebastian
Does anyone remember the name of the movie that came out in the mid 60s that had a CDC 3600 (I think) as a background in part of it. I had a friend who told me he was the CDC rep during the shooting of the movie, but it's been so long ago I've forgotten the name of it. He said all he had to do was go in each morning and bring the system up and make sure all the lights were flashing, that was the important thing about it. It was definitely a CDC computer, since my friend worked at CDC, but I am not real sure about the model. It was, of course a sci-fi movie....
Thanks for any help and there are movies other than TRON.
Bill Machacek
lo,
are we talking about the Tron movie from 1982?
I just grabbed it in digital format.
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From: "Hans Franke" <Hans.Franke(a)mch20.sbs.de>
> > If you got a Lisa-1 to sell...I'd gladly pay $1K!
>
> > I'm a big Lisa fan, but don't have $8-10K to pay for one...I'd rather
> > spend it on my other love - A Lotus Esprit!
>
> Now, if you would ask about a cheap Lotus, I might help,
> since a friend of mine deals with such kind of cars.
This is way off-topic, but there is no such thing as a cheap Lotus. You either
pay up front or pay later.
alan perry
Admin of the original Lotus Cars mailing list
Editor for the Seattle area Lotus club newsletter
Former editor for the San Francisco area Lotus club newsletter
Former officer in the Los Angeles and San Francisco area Lotus clubs
Owner of a Lotus Elise
Former owner of a Lotus Esprit and two Lotus Europas
... get the idea
BTW, for Hans, former contractor at Siemens-Nixdorf in Neu Perlach (Munich)
Also, if the indy has accounts with login allowed (like guest, lp, etc),
and no shadow passwords, you can log in as one of those accounts, grab
the password hash for root from /etc/passwd, and crack it on another
machine. I got into a IRIX 6.2 box this way. IRIX 6.5 I believe uses
shadow passwords by default so you might be out of luck there for an
"easy" solution.
--
Ryan Underwood, <nemesis(a)icequake.net>
OK, my Indy is now (almost) all working. I need to change the monitor refresh
rate, but I can't do that unless I can log in. I don't have the root pwd either.
Apparently you can't go to single user without the root pwd. I can do just
about anything -- I have a serial console hookup, but no root to go with it :(
I can't get it on a network either... I tried using the setenv command to set
the IP to a local address, but I don't think it works (new to IRIX/SGI, so that
may be way off!)
Anyone have any ideas? I already tried most of the normal ones -- guest, tours,
lp, etc. and found them to be closed! Jeez, just what I need... a security
consious admin!
I have no floppy or CDROM installed on this, nor do I have a SCSI adapter to
mount the drives under linux and do the deed the _simple_ way. I also lack IRIX
media.
Any thoughts? I don't want to buy many more components... but I guess that if I
have to, I can make a few more purchases...
Thanks!
Owen
Next time I visit my parents I will be pulling my TRON electronic game out
of storage... It looks like a mini arcade machine and had three or four
games.
Now the question: What causes batteries to start leaking? I am worried
that there may have (now) 15 year old batteries in it. :(
Cheers,
Bryan
Hello Arlen,
I am a consulting engineer working with a client up in Sacramento, CA that
has a Model AA-545 development system (S/N 5129 CEI) used to program a Motorola
MC68HC05C8 microprocessor back in the late 1980's. We are also interested in
learning more about this system and if there is someone out there who could use
it... We do have some 5 1/4 in floppy's (MS -DOS 2.0) for the system. Did you
ever find any further information during your search in July? Perhaps we can
in some way help eachother?
Regards,
Chuck Clemens
Medical Device Development Consulting
Office: 760-942-2272
Cell: 760-613-2272
Fax: 760-436-9476
Net: clemensco(a)aol.com
I am looking for a hard drive for my MAC SE. I would need the cable to
connect it to my computer. An external HD would be ok if you dont have an
internal one.
Thanks
Bill
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I recently acquired this board, it appears to be an S100 board, since
it has the 100 pin connector and voltage regulators onboard. Does
anyone know what this is, or what it came from? In the upper right
corner, it says "Dynatech NEWSTAR 1MP481 REV. A (C) 1990" The board has
a Z80, a 27128 EPROM, an 8k static RAM, some 41c256 DRAMS, a Z80 SIO,
some RS-232 line driver pairs (1488/1489), and two 26 pin headers,
which appear to be serial ports.
Here is a picture I took:
http://24.194.65.231/images/unknownboard.jpg
It appears to be a complete Z80 computer on a board, so I would imagine
that it would be possible to power it up, and connect a terminal to it,
but I don't know if it would do anything. Any information on what this
could be, or what it might do would be appreciated.
Thanks!
Ian Primus
ian_primus(a)yahoo.com
I'm trying to get a Magnolia floppy controller running in an H89, and I'm
having some odd problems.
The Magnolia controller apparently requires their own monitor ROM, which I
have (444-84B revision 10). It's my understanding that this ROM actually
negotiates the baud rate with the terminal logic board rather than requiring
a fixed 9600 as the Heath ROMs do. However, when I have this ROM installed,
the machine doesn't seem to be able to "sync". The CPU and TLB speak
together perfectly with the normal Heath ROM (444-84 or 444-142), so I'm
inclined to rule out problems with the UARTs, transceivers, and cables. But
most of the time the screen spouts gibberish with the Magnolia ROM in place,
and when it does sync up, I can't type more than a few characters before
things go to pot. I've also gotten the same behavior with two known-good
CPU boards.
Any suggestions? Does anyone know if revision 10 is a good version of
Magnolia's ROM, or do I have it because the guy I got it from uses version
11 in his '89? :-)
This controller supports a variety of 5-1/4" formats, as well as 8" drives,
so I'd love to get it running.
Thanks!
Patrick
P.S. Yes, I do have the "other" recommended Magnolia PROMs in place... full
set is 444-83 (Heath), 444-61 (Heath) and 444-66B (Magnolia). --P
I regularly receive messages for this group with proper-looking titles and
all (Such as "Subject: cctech Digest, Vol 3, Issue 15" )
Am I alone? Whatever is generating these things is fairly clever to even
change the subject line to resemble the rising issue numbers of the current
volume. It makes me wonder if it is in the "cctech Digest" server. I
have never investigated what the removed content looks like to determine if
something is being incorrectly identified as a virus.
Bob
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I just got a kit off ebay (Item # 3056408822) that is pretty much a complete
kit for working on HP 7905/06 type drives. Thing even includes an air
pressure guage :)
However, I actually HAVE most of the parts in this kit already, most of the
boards and the DSU. However, my DSU has most of it's switches broken off and
hasn't yet been tested. This also means I now have two alignment packs, two
extenders, etc. etc. As a result I'll be taking my partial kit to ebay to
recoup the costs of this complete kit. If anyone here is interested, let me
know within a few days and we can work out a trade or something before I go
the ebay route.
Jay West
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On Nov 4, 15:14, JP Hindin wrote:
> > > http://www.innergeek.us/geek.html
>
> Geeky enough that I can't use the damned thing because the twerp that
> wrote it only allows the use of JavaScript to do the point counting,
and
> my browser is so old it doesn't support that :P
I had almost that problem -- mine does Javascript but it's normally
switched off.
Final result was 34.31953% - Total Geek.
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
University of York
I am playing with an old Cubix Power SMP system, but I don't have the
breakout box for the video/mouse /keyboard connector. Does anyone have the pinout
for that connector so I can build a breakout box? I have looked on the Cubix
website and searched everywhere.
Thanks in advance
Tom
>Please tell me that you are kidding!!! Cats don't need a TV and VCR!!
Nope not kidding in the least.
And trust me, when you have a room of 30 cats of assorted ages, they most
definitly DO watch the TV to pass time. Companies even make videos
specifically for the purpose. They are of birds or other animals that a
cat would normally chase.
Its not as if they are watching Matlock reruns or anything. These are
videos of small animals flying or running around the screen. Basically,
its a video version of pulling a cat toy around on a string. Lots of
movement and sound, zero plot.
-chris
<http://www.mythtech.net>
> For the best info on this board, see the following manuals:
> HP1000 M/E/F-Series Firmware Installation and Service Manual 12791-90001.
The 83 and 86 versions of the document are now up at www.bitsavers.org/pdf/hp/1000
Evenin' folks,
I've updated my Lisa page to include most of the software I've got,
including Lisa OS V2 and V3.1 plus apps, Lisa PASCAL Workshop V2 and V3,
Lisa BASIC (not tested that one), DART and Diskcopy 4.2. I *think* Lisa OS
V1 is in there too but the filenames don't make it obvious.
Let me know if any of them don't work - I can't test ATM 'cos my main Mac is
on the floor while I'm rejigging my geekosphere :o)
cheers
--
adrian/witchy
www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk - the online computer museum
www.snakebiteandblack.co.uk - ex-monthly gothic shenanigans :o(
My company has various DEC and DEC-compatible components (with manuals for most) that need a new home. Most of the stuff works (the last time I tried it).
I also have a fairly comprehensive set of RSX-11M and RSX-11M-PLUS manuals and software distribution tapes.
I hate to see these things scrapped. They paid my rent for more than a decade. So, if anyone is interested in becoming a foster parent or knows of someone, please let me know.
Wayne Zafft
> You're not supposed to view them in your web browser.
It should work fine that way, assuming the pdf plugin is sending the
right html commands to the web server. I see people reading docs this
way all the time.
To answer the original question, the WCS card is documented in the
1000 M/E/F Engineering Reference
http://www.bitsavers.org/pdf/hp/1000/1000_MEF_EngrRef/
92851-90001_Mar81_6.pdf section B