On Jan 14, 10:29, Claude Ceccon wrote:
> Some comments on cleaning electronics which have been despoiled by
> biorchid rodents and other sources:
[lots of good stuff that I wholeheartedly agree with]
Except:
> If you use soap do not use one that is extremely caustic - you can
> remove things that you want like the copper runs.
Copper does not dissolve in any common alkalis. Strong detergents
(some dishwasher detergents and some industrial detergents) however may
damage other things. Don't ask me why I had to re-polish the magenta
handles on a couple of DEC boards.
> Distilled water can be used in a pinch,
> but be aware that the stuff is corrosive.
That's news to me, and every chemist I know :-)
If you don't have deionised or distilled water handy (the contents of
your dehumidifier are pretty good), or your local tap water is
reasonably soft, do the final rinse with a tiny amount of a wetting
agent (common liquid detergent will do but laboratory detergent is
better because it doesn't contain dyes, thickeners, or perfume). Then
blow off as much as possible with *low* pressure air, or wave the board
around to shake off the excess, and let it drain. That's the
equivalent to what photo labs do, and I can assure you that
photographic emulsion is far more susceptible to water damage than
electronics.
The only thing I'd add is that before you start washing, it's worth
protecting or removing any labels -- especially paper labels -- that
might be damaged.
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
University of York
Does anyone have any information on ANY Multibus cards made by Advanced
Micro Computer? I've been told that AMC is a division of AMD. And AMC's
logo looks the same as AMD's. I have seveal DRAM cards, a FD controller and
a few other cards made by them and I'd like to do something with them.
Joe
Hi
Most of these like to use better letters such as the letter B.
Try setting things to the slowest baud on the terminal and then
you can watch realtime on a scope( like 110 ).
Get one of those light boxes. You still might be missing one
of the handshake lines that one machine needs that the other
doesn't. Get the box with the switches and jumpers. These are
in the $20 to $25 range and worth every penny.
Dwight
>
>I have a system that does an "autobaud" when you hit return to log in. If I
>hook up a VT220, it works at 7/1/E, 8/1/N, 7/1/O, etc. etc. no problem. If I
>hookup a Televideo 950, hitting return gets no response at all. This is NOT
>a DTE vs. DCE problem, because the televideo does work with the same system
>on a different type of serial port.
>
>I was thinking something might be brain damaged with parity
>generation/checking on this terminal. Is this a known issue of TV950's?
>About the only way I can find out whats going on is to dig out my datascope
>and see the start data & stop bits between the two when hitting return and
>see what is different.
>
>Any thoughts?
>
>Jay West
>
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-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Matthewson [mailto:peter.matthewson@tiscali.co.uk]
Sent: 14 January 2004 21:27
To: 'andyh(a)andyh-rayleigh.freeserve.co.uk'
Subject: 77/68
Andy,
Just saw your note on 77/68 from the classic computing mailing list.
This made me smile; I can only see about 2 references to it that I can
find anywhere on the web.
My acquaintance with the 77/68 began when it featured in volume 1
edition 1 of Personal Computer World that I chanced upon in WH Smith in
Dewsbury, I think this was round about December 1977. I am not entirely
sure it was the UKs first home PC because I recall reading about a 4040
based system described in Wireless World which must have been a year or
so earlier.
I was so captivated by all this I withdrew all my savings bought the
bits and built one, for ?60. The 6800 microprocessor cost ?14 I recall.
I managed to get it working, I am not quite sure since I was a 15 year
old schoolkid with only a multimeter for test equipment, working in
isolation and did not really know what it was that I was building. The
main problem I had was with wiring the edge connector, the data bus was
in one bit order on the edge connector and the address bus in the
reverse bit order, a detail I didn?t understand the significance of
initially. It was about 2 years before I met anyone who had any idea
what I was talking about.
I extended the system with 1024 bytes of ram, built a keyboard and
cannibalised an old calculator display for peripherals. And I built a 32
bits per second tone burst modem for storage of programmes on cassette
tapes. The monitor program I wrote to drive all this took 256 bytes of
memory. Those were the days - he said wistfully.
Its still up in the loft. I almost feel inspired to get it out and fire
it up again!
Regards
Peter Matthewson
(re: http://www.cathodecorner.com/sonny.jpg)
Yes indeed, and I did! Man I wish I had all the junk I bought from
there...
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From: David Forbes <>
To: Tom Jennings <tomj(a)wps.com>
Subject: Re: Would you buy a used PDP-8 from this man?
Date: 14 Jan 2004 13:37:17 -0700
Tom,
This photo is scanned in from the October 1982 issue of National
Geographic magazine, which I just found at the thrift store. It has
an article about The Chip, and another about Silicon Valley. Humorous
reading.
The guy with the bowtie is Sonny Monosson of American Used Computer
in Boston MA. I remember you saying that you used to go there now and
then in your youth.
I remember getting their ads in the late seventies, when I was using
PDP-11s in high school and college. I would drool over the
possibility of getting an obsolete 11 for home use, but the shipping
was so expensive back then. I imagine the power bill would be
something to behold also.
All I remember about the Heathkit LSI-11 I used at Optical Sciences
is that it was slower, instruction for instruction, than the Z-80 I
also used.
--
--David Forbes, Tucson, AZ
http://www.cathodecorner.com/
I am in need of one or two media for this diskdrive. Would become part
of a DG MP/200 system.
Would it be save to try without them?( the 6059 has a fixed platter
beneath the cartridge )
Jos dreesen, Zurich Switzerland
I'm still looking for a home for the big, heavy SGI I mentioned the other day.
It's going to /dev/null if I don't hear from anyone in Los Angeles who wants
it within the next few days :-(
-- Adam
Hi,
I've sorted the following out. It's available for the cost of shipping.
Please reply off list.
-IBM AT motherboard 512K
-IBM serial/parallel card from AT
-WD 512K video card
-2 AT style ISA/PCI socket 7 motherboards model 586itbd, have both at
and atx power supply conections, use 72 pin, or sdram, I installed one
in a case, but never applied power. They're essentially new.
-2 six foot scsi cables, 50 pin, centronics style connectors
-scsi external terminator, centronics sytle
-AT power supply, power switch on the end of cable. This is a later
model AT power supply, sort of like an ATX in size but without the
extra atx functions, 230watts I think.
Chad Fernandez
Michigan, USA
i have a as400 9404 for parts it has 4 cards #6152 3 #2641 #2517 #6140 #2625 #6150 #4114 #4104 #2515 also a tape drive and a 5 1\4 floppy,pwr.supply and battery back up. are you interested in buying cheap?
5
I just put a pile of RTTY books on E-bay. I know this isn't exactly CC
stuff but part of it such as the Digital Group computer used as a RTTY
terminal are so I decided to announce it here. If you're interested in RTTY
take a good look at "The New RTTY Handbook". It's a real find IMHO. See
<http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewSellersOtherItems&userid=rigdonj>
I will be adding more books and some RTTY equipment ASAP.
Joe
PS. I'm not a member of the Green Keys list but if a member wants to
forward this message there, please do.
>>I've recently aquired a model 43 Teletype with a paper tape reader/punch,
>>which makes the unit an ASR43. It looks very much like the one described
>>here: http://www.vauxelectronics.com/gil/tty/M43.htm
>
>Say, I've got one of these, but without the tasty looking reader/punch.
>
>>I'm interested in finding a manual and/or any documentation that might
>>still exist for it. Scans and/or copies would be fine.
>
>I am pretty sure I have the manual...somewhere :(
>
>Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer
>Festival
Think this is part of what you're looking for:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2535770466
As soon as I get 'em, I'll scan 'em, in my Copious Free Time.
(Proud owner of a 43 with the tasty reader/punch :-)
Mike
http://www.corestore.org
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mlalibe(a)mindspring.com
Why Wait? Move to EarthLink.
I'm having a large and unusually shaped item shipped from New Jersey to
California. One part will need to be crated and the rest boxed. Is there
someone in the Boonton area that can recommend a shipper? I would need
the shipper to bring along the materials to crate the item.
I would also entertain paying a list member local to the area to crate and
pack the item, and coordinate with a local shipping company.
Please reply privately if you can help out.
Thanks!
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On Tue, 13 Jan 2004 "Zane H. Healy" <healyzh(a)aracnet.com> wrote:
> I've got a TPC image, that was originally from a MM: drive, and I've
> written it back out to a MU: drive (4mm in this case). I'm just trying
> to read the tape, I'm not trying to do anything fancy like boot from
> it. Is there any reason that I should have trouble doing this?
No.
Johnny
Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
|| on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt(a)update.uu.se || Reading murder books
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
Where are you located
+++++++++++++++++++
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Web Services Manager
WorkCover Corporation
p: 08 8233 2548
e: webmaster(a)workcover.com
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-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Stevenson [mailto:ikvsabre@comcast.net]
Sent: Tuesday, 13 January 2004 11:12 PM
To: Classic Computers Mailing List
Subject: Old IDE hard drives
Is there any interest in older IDE hard drives, 170-540MB?
I listed them on eBay, but got no response. I probably should have posted
them to the list, but I wasn't sure that was allowed, so I didn't.
If there is any interest, I will relist them. If it does not violate the
rules, I will provide links to them.
Here is a list of what I have:
Maxtor 7540AV 540 MB IDE Hard Drive
Seagate 1.0 GB IDE Hard Drive
Western Digital Caviar 212 MB IDE Hard Drive
Western Digital Caviar 256 MB IDE Hard Drive
ELS127 Quantum 127 MB IDE Hard Drive
ELS170 Quantum 170 MB IDE Hard Drive
Joe
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A simple google search turned up:
http://web.archive.org/web/19990219201152/sca.enlace.com.mx/carlosg/keyemu
Note that the website is long gone, but archive.org has it cached away :-)
Cheers,
Ram
-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Uban
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Sent: 1/13/04 4:55 PM
Subject: Re: Looking for a parallel keyboard
At 04:32 PM 1/13/2004 -0500, you wrote:
>Dwight K. Elvey wrote:
>
>>Hi
>>Does anyone have a parallel out keyboard that they
>>would like to sell to me?
>>Dwight
>>
>>
>>
>>
>Does this mean there might be a small market for a PS/2 to parallel
>keyboard converter? I can envision two modes, output only, where ASCII
>data and strobe are provided when a key is pressed, and an I/O mode, so
>that keyboard commands can be clocked back in.
>
>Multi-key sequences (like F1, etc) would be converted to VT100 keyboard
>sequences. Perhaps a few others terminal types would be supported,
such
>as the TVI950.
>Information like Shift would affect the keycode, but would not be
passed
>along (well, I guess we could, with a mode switch. But normally not.
>It'd just look like the keyboard data stream from a serial terminal).
>
> --jc
>
Yes, that would be great! It would be excellent if it were small, had
a PS/2 connector and a 26pin ribbon header with the following pinout
to mate with my BigBoard's keyboard connector. Of course it should emit
the equivalent of the AY5-1015 (if I recall correctly) parallel keyboard
chip as well...
1 - KB0
3 - KB1
5 - KB2
7 - KB3
9 - KB4
11 - KB5
13 - KB6
15 - KB7
17 - !KBSTB
19,20 - +12
22,23 - -12
25,26 - +5
2,4,6,8,10,12,14,16 - Gnd
Waiting in anticipation!
--tom
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No, I think these are serial. They go through an RJ connector.
Dwight
>From: "Steve Thatcher" <melamy(a)earthlink.net>
>
>to those interested in a parallel keyboard, I have a few Kaypro II
>keyboards from machines that were scrapped. I am pretty sure they are 8 bit
>parallel. I am on the east coast though and won't be able to take a look at
>them until I get back home on the 6th of February. They came off working
>systems, so they should be just fine. I just don't know key cap condition,
>etc. Email me if you would like one and I can email you in a few weeks when
>I get home. Price is $10 plus shipping.
>
>best regards, Steve Thatcher
>
>At 11:09 AM 1/13/2004 -0800, you wrote:
>>Hi
>> Does anyone have a parallel out keyboard that they
>>would like to sell to me?
>>Dwight
>>
>>
>
>
All,
I'm looking for any hints or advice on repairing a broken RL02 drive. I have two drives, one is working, the other indicates a fault.
The unit with the fault lights the fault light as soon as it's powered up, it goes through it's normal power up cycle (runs the spindle at low speed) and seems normal beyond the fault.
All power supply voltages are normal.
I've swapped the 'easy' to swap parts with my working unit however the fault persists (swapped the logic board that lives on the top/back cover, the servo board and the unit select buttons). Before I tear deeper into it I was hoping someone might have some hints or experience that will help me.
-Neil
This *might* help. For my transputer stand-alone workstation, I used a
serial keyboard that is basically used for PDAs. You can always use one of
those serial-to-parallel converters to hook it up.
Take a look at the KeySync keyboard:
http://www.ibizcorp.com/pda_accessories/pda_keysync.html
Here are some links on connecting it to Linux:
http://www.doc.ic.ac.uk/~jpc1/linux/ipaq/serial.html
Cheers,
Ram
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Hi
Actually it is quite easy to use the parallel
port of a PC as well, in a pinch. I'm looking for
a keyboard that is more in the right age group ( about
late 70's ).
Dwight
>From: "Ram Meenakshisundaram" <RMeenaks(a)OLF.COM>
>
>This *might* help. For my transputer stand-alone workstation, I used a
>serial keyboard that is basically used for PDAs. You can always use one of
>those serial-to-parallel converters to hook it up.
>
>Take a look at the KeySync keyboard:
>
>http://www.ibizcorp.com/pda_accessories/pda_keysync.html
>
>Here are some links on connecting it to Linux:
>
>http://www.doc.ic.ac.uk/~jpc1/linux/ipaq/serial.html
>
>Cheers,
>
>Ram
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> From: Joe Stevenson
> To: Classic Computers Mailing List
> Sent: 1/13/2004 7:41 AM
> Subject: Old IDE hard drives
> Is there any interest in older IDE hard drives, 170-540MB?
> I listed them on eBay, but got no response. I probably should have
> posted them to the list, but I wasn't sure that was allowed, so I
> didn't.
Well, if no one else makes a claim, the older smaller capacity drives are
usually in demand for amateur radio clubs. I have a reserve here for my
local club. As an incentive, most of these clubs in the US are 501(c)3
corporations. You would be able to take these as a tax deduction. Find
comparables on a refurb site, save the comparable resale value from when you
donate as documentation of a resonable price, and count them as donations at
the end of the year.
Much of this also applies to older 486 computers. A lot of the software
still used on the packet backbone will not run on newer machines.
Of course, I am not an accountant, so please verify all of this, especially
the comparables bit.
Kelly
Hi Tom
No fair, me first.
Dwight
>From: "Tom Uban" <uban(a)ubanproductions.com>
>
>At 11:09 AM 1/13/2004 -0800, you wrote:
>
>>Hi
>> Does anyone have a parallel out keyboard that they
>>would like to sell to me?
>>Dwight
>>
>>
>
>I'm interested in one of these as well.
>
>--tnx
>--tom
>
>
While wandering around the hallways here at Yale, I came upon a catalog
>from Inmac, dated July 1991. I then proceeded to laugh in a bit of
amazement over the prices of some of the items when new, and how much
they go for now. Here are some tidbits...
Inmac NB/386sx laptop - $3,495.00
- probably made by Compaq, or that's what it looks like at least.
20 MHz, 9" 32 shades of grey screen, 40MB HDD, 2 MB RAM...
Iomega Alpha 8" 10MB Bernoulli Box Cartridge 3 pack - $235.00
CDC 9883-1/RM05 300MB disk pack - $839.00
or how about some disk drive filters, from $37.00 to $114.00
Mountain 80MB external tape backup drive - $1,149.95...
--
--- Dave Woyciesjes
--- ICQ# 905818
Hello-
I am looking for a Roland SCC 1 GS MIDI Card. This is an 8 bit ISA card
that was made in 1991.
I had one but it no longer works.
Let me know if anyone has one they are willing to part with.
-Ken V.
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You know what is REALLY fucked-up?
Coming back home here (Cali), and finding that during the
move from one office building to another, people decided
to not move ALL your stuff.
Waaa!
They ("they" !) threw out my BA123 (incl. the boards, disks,
etc !), my 3100-M76 and a box of spares, just cos "dude, that
was, like, REALLY OLD crap! Didnt know you still needed it!"
*cries*
Sellam, be prepared to spend several hours comforting me :(
Fred
--
Fred N. van Kempen, DEC (Digital Equipment Corporation) Collector/Archivist
Visit the VAXlab Project at http://VAXlab.pdp11.nl/
Visit the Archives at http://www.pdp11.nl/
Email: waltje(a)pdp11.nl BUSSUM, THE NETHERLANDS / Mountain View, CA, USA
Ih ave a fairly old C64 (sn is about 32,000) with an odd logo - a 6 and a
4 smashed together, sort of. There is a picture of the style of machine
about 1/4 down the page at:
http://commodore.ca/products/c64/commodore_64.htm
Every C64 I played with as a kid looked like the one at the top of the
screen, with the rainbow logo. When did Commodore switch?
On a side note, response for the 2400 baud WE modems has been pretty low
(zero, actually). I would rather not scrap these things out, although I
may lug a pair over to RCS. I received a little more info:
> Seems to me that these were not specifically for secure voice -
> they could be used, connecteded to a crypto set like a KG-13,
> for uses like AUTODIN trunks.
Neat stuff.
William Donzelli
aw288(a)osfn.org
Hi all,
Just FYI - the ExecPC BBS seems to be back up as of 7:30AM UK time this
morning. The address is <telnet://bbs.execpc.com> (as always).
Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm off to raid the filebase :)
Later.
--
Phil. | Acorn Risc PC600 Mk3, SA202, 64MB, 6GB,
philpem(a)dsl.pipex.com | ViewFinder, 10BaseT Ethernet, 2-slice,
http://www.philpem.dsl.pipex.com/ | 48xCD, ARCINv6c IDE, SCSI
>Pardon?
>>mention was made of the TMS1000. Can anyone do a dump on one for me?
I think this was in reference to a REALLY REALLY old thread. Unless it
came back up recently, the last Dark Tower thread I saw was when I first
joined the list (I provided a few pics of the internals of the tower
unit), and that was two or three years ago!!
-chris
<http://www.mythtech.net>
I'm pretty sure that I know where a bunch of rear doors
for the DEC H960 racks MIGHT be available here in
Minneapolis. In fact, they've been sitting in the
hallway here for months. If someone is interested
in picking them up in person, I can ask if they are
available.
If I recall correctly, there are 4 rear doors. And no,
there are no sides or racks available, i've been keeping
my eye open for that myself.
-Lawrence LeMay
On Jan 12, 21:22, nbreeden2(a)comcast.net wrote:
> I'm looking for any hints or advice on repairing a broken RL02
drive. I have two drives, one is working, the other indicates a fault.
>
> The unit with the fault lights the fault light as soon as it's
powered up, it goes through it's normal power up cycle (runs the
spindle at low speed) and seems normal beyond the fault.
>
> All power supply voltages are normal.
>
> I've swapped the 'easy' to swap parts with my working unit however
the fault persists (swapped the logic board that lives on the top/back
cover, the servo board and the unit select buttons). Before I tear
deeper into it I was hoping someone might have some hints or experience
that will help me.
It could be lots of things. I had one like that, it turned out to be a
fault on the AC servo board IIRC. I suggest you download the RL01/02
Pocket Service Guide from David Gesswein's site at
http://www.pdp8.net/query_docs/query_all.html -- it's fairly small and
has a lot of useful stuff in it. It's all I had when I had to repair
and realign my three drives (though I did have an original DEC printed
copy).
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
University of York
I just bought three big SGIs but was only able to make room for two of them.
Oops. I'm looking to trade the extra one for a smaller SGI, or for a Sun,
a micro, video game stuff, test and measurement equipment, some DIP-packaged
27c160 EPROMs or a hamburger. It's an SGI "Power Series" 4D/something,
black with blue trim, about dishwasher size and a few hundred pounds. I don't
know if it's currently operable. With appropriate modifications it could
probably be a nice coffee table or NFS server. I will deliver in the
Los Angeles area, but the recipient will need to help unload, ideally with a
forklift, or else with a movable platform we can slide it on to. I need to
get rid of it fast before the computer gods destroy it. I hope to hear from
someone soon. Thanks!
(Also available: Gould 2800S strip chart recorder with 8 or so channels of
"DC amplifier" inputs, 19" rack mount by a foot or so high, not too heavy or
deep. And a Canon fax machine. How the hell did that get in there? All
untested.)
-- Adam
Fred N. van Kempen <waltje(a)pdp11.nl> wrote:
> They ("they" !) threw out my BA123 (incl. the boards, disks,
> etc !), my 3100-M76 and a box of spares, just cos "dude, that
> was, like, REALLY OLD crap! Didnt know you still needed it!"
>
> *cries*
Can you sue them for the replacement cost? The replacement cost would of course
be the amount necessary to create a new Digital Equipment Corporation, to build
new factories and hire new workers to manufacture new BA123, new original DEC
disks and boards, as well as the necessary amount to buy back all designs and
schematics and rights from HP, etc. Sue them for that amount and then build the
new factories and the new hardware!
MS
Hi folks,
I've been contacted by someone with the above wee machine for sale. The
Huskies were very ruggedised PCs weren't they? I can't remember that much
about them, but if you're interested contact the seller directly - Ross at
Bridgwaterboy(a)aol.com.
Cheers,
--
Adrian/Witchy
www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk - possibly the UK's biggest online computer museum
www.snakebiteandblack.co.uk - ex-monthly gothic shenanigans :o(
Hi am looking for an hp 85 cpu
I have been hunting the net , in hopes of finding one ,
am also looking for an HP 85 service rom 00085-15006
the cpu was made by capricorn , lots of differen't definitions
or the cpu on the internet.
is there possibly a modern chip that could be used in place of it ?
any help or information would be appreciated
thanks
Graham Robinson
IT Manager
Agtronics ltd
graham.r(a)agtronics.co.nz
I have tons, but do you want the one with the twist between the drives?
Also, do you FEDEX next morning? or ground? and where are you? I
am in Boston
Joe Heck
Hi Adrian,
I read your posting from classcmp.org which read as follows:
Hi folks,
Anyone have any info on the subject beast here? In fact, does anybody
want
one? I've got said twin 8" floppy drive monster here and it doesn't fit
in
with my museum since it isn't a home computer. It also doesn't have a
keyboard, but it powers up and asks nicely for a program disk.
All I can find is that CPT Corp were based in Eden Prairie, Michigan,
were
founded in 1971 by Dick Eichhorn and ceased to exist in the early 1990s.
The
Babbage institute has a CPT 8000 and the picture there is pretty much
what
the 8520 looks like. Only it has a keyboard :)
The 8520 is an Intel 8080-powered machine, and I only know that because
I
took it apart. Google searches only turn up people offering a data
transfer
service, so either there aren't many left or it's just not a very
interesting machine!
Like I say, free to a good home but it's HEAVY, maybe 50-60lbs heavy. I
could sure use the space it takes up and I don't want to put it back in
the
tip....
I thought that you might be interested to know that I used to work for
CPT (from 1980 - 1987) and was there (and worked in production) while
the 8000 series was being manufactured.
A couple of corrections to your information:
1. CPT was based in Eden Prairie Minnesota, not Michigan.
2. CPT was founded by Dean Scheff, not Dick Eichorn. Dean started the
company in 1971, and the original product was a cassette tape base
memory add-on for IBM Selectric typewriters (The name CPT originally
meant Cassette Power Typing).
As you already know, the CPT 8000 series (8000, 8100, et al) was a
dedicated word processor. The beauty was in it's 14" portrait oriented
screen. This screen was white with black characters and had a very high
scan rate (for the day). The 8000 perfectly mimicked a sheet of paper
being scrolled through an electric typewriter and was therefore very
comfortable for most office workers to use.
CPT had other products like the 6000 (a low powered, half screen version
of the 8000), the Diskpack (sp? I don't remember how we spelled that
shared disk system, the Phoenix (word processing with graphics) and the
9000 series (a low profile replacement for the 8000 series that utilized
the Intel 8086 processor.
If I dig into my archives I could probably find printed articles and
sales brochures, let me know if you would be interested in any scanned
images of this information.
John D Mustain
Exact Software
* <mailto:john.mustain@exactsoftware.com>
john.mustain(a)exactsoftware.com
* www.exact-software.com
* 800.468.0834 x271
* 333 East Center St. - Marion, OH 43302
PS, as I was writing this email to you I was enjoying some coffee from
my 1986 vintage CPT 1971-186 15 Years of the Best cup that was given to
all CPT employees at the time. I've used it nearly every working day
since it was given to me.
Later!
i could lay my hands on an old NEC V20(8088 i guess)
comp (a Hitachi Motherboard i guess no. HIL8)
recently. it must be atleast 15-20yrs old. it does hv
all its components and interfacing cards along with
its bios.
here lies the problem. i don't hv any idea if it works
or not. the pwrsupply works for sure (i checked). the
monochrme monitor that i got with it does not work.
where should i start checking if it is working, if the
bios, processor and other chips ar in good condition?
i hv no idea....
kindly help.
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"Barrie Carruthers" <barrie(a)precisionmicro.co.nz> wrote:
> Hi am looking for an hp 85 cpu
I don't think much of your chances of finding just the chip. There
are many of them around, but in most cases they are attached to an
HP Series 80 machine.
> the cpu was made by capricorn , lots of differen't definitions
> or the cpu on the internet.
The chip was made by HP. Its product name was Capricorn.
> is there possibly a modern chip that could be used in place of it ?
Ha! The HP Series 80 architecture specifies 4 12V clocks! and 6V logic.
However, since we are talking about 20 year old technology, I am sure
you can EMULATE an HP-85 CPU using a modern processor.
> any help or information would be appreciated
First a little self-promotion: lots of info on the Series 80 may be
found at www.series80.org, but the most important reference is the
HP-85 assembler manual (its in the CDROM collection of the Museum of HP
Calculators along with the HP-85 service manual: http://www.hpmuseum.org)
I have the HP-86 assembler manual, but I have not got around to scanning
it yet.
There are a couple of HP Journal articles on the Series 80
(also in the CDROM collection above), e.g.
HP Journal Aug 1980, pp. 18-22 (brief discussion of the chip set).
HP Journal Jul 1980, (whole issue dedicated to the HP-85).
HP Journal Dec 1982, (article on the HP-86/87 memory architecture).
HP Journal Jun 1983, (discusses HP-75 which has a CMOS version of the
series 80 processor architecture)
**vp
Christopher McNabb <cmcnabb(a)4mcnabb.net> wrote:
> I'm in pretty urgent need of a set of MFM drive cables. If anyone has
> any they want to give up, please let me know!
Why not just make them yourself? This way no one has to give them up and
everyone can have as many as he needs!
MS
See previous message... for pickup, Santa Clara area, or from
LA area, or Arizona next week..
Chuck, if you still read this list: yeah, those were the machines
I got from you :(
--f
Hi
For those on the west coast, I can do 1702A's on my SIM-4 and MP7.
I can use Intel HEX or binaries as input ( or BNPF as files if needed ).
If the Data I/O 19 that I just got works for these as well, I'll be
able to do them there. I currently do 2708's on my ByteSaver board.
I also have some old Intel UPP units but haven't had the time to
check them out.
Dwight
>From: Joe <rigdonj(a)cfl.rr.com>
>
>At 09:42 AM 1/10/04 -0800, Neil wrote:
>>I've seen a couple of threads discussing the need to program 1702s. If
>>anyone needs a small qty of 1702A programmed I can do this. I've got an old
>>1702A programmer that I use to program EPROMs for my MMD1.
>>
>>The programmer is Tenor Model 763 - it was used originally to program
>>sequence ROMs for industrial control. I've repaired it and made some
>>modifications to it, it's a manual programmer, you enter each byte on toggle
>>switches, originally the LS bit was on the left, MS bit on the right, I
>>reworked it so the bit order was more normal. :)
>
> Thanks for the offer. I had been looking for a way to program some. But
>I recently bought a Pro_Log programmer with the correct plug-ins for the
>1702s. In addition, it has the serial link so I should be able to read and
>program them to and from my PC. I haven't tried it yet but it appears to
>work. I want to get started with it soon. Once I verify that it works I'll
>also be able to program 1702s for anyone that needs them.
>
> Joe
>
>
The last release of apple A/UX was 3.1 that came with my AWS95 machine, before that there was A/UX 2.0 for the IIfx and other machines in that era. What I want to know is was A/UX 1.0 ever released and what systems/requirements did it need to run? Until recently there was very little information on A/UX 2.0 on the web and I still havnt seen anything on 1.0 at all (3.0 is well documented).
If it does exists its probably 14+ years old.
Yet another follow-up:
Another relevant aspect of my search is any device that would go into a
low-power (or sleep) mode and then activate upon receiving data over a
network link. So for example, a printer with a print server that sits
on a network and stays in an energy saving or low power mode when it's not
doing anything but then fires up to print a document when it gets a
request. Something like that. I would need documentation explicitly
describing this sort of action. I would imagine there is something
relevant with network cards that have some sort of power-on feature when
network activity is sensed.
This would have to be prior to 1994.
Solid leads that I can use will be rewarded appropriately.
Thanks!
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