- test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org - classiccmp.org

by tponsford＠theriver.com

Hi All, I got a friend who is contemplating thinning out his "herd" of Nova 4's. He is amenable to sell or trade. But want's to make sure they will have a good home. They are all working and have aos plus a lot of documentation. The 16 bit machines are 5100, 5230, 5280, and I believe there is a 32 bit one also, but I cannot recall the model number (MV4000 maybe??). He also has a few 9 track tape drives, but I got first dibs on those :-) I'll be taking some digital photos of them sometime this week and I'll post them as soon as I can.

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DZQ11 Config Question

by jeff.kaneko＠juno.com

Does anyone out there know what CSR Address and vector I should set this to to make RSTS/E happy? When RSTS INIT's, it bitches that the board doesn't interrupt, and happily disables it. I'm using it in an 11/73, with RQDX3, 1MB ram, TQK70, the aforementioned DZQ11, and a DEQNA. If I do a SHOW DEV, KB1-4 is listed, but no CSR. . . . Jeff ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today!

22 years, 2 months

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N80387sx-16

by CKo＠lappinsulator.com

We have pS2 old machine which needs this chip. If you still have one, I would like to get it. Thanks. Chungduck Ko DIRECTOR BUSH ENGR & QA Lapp Insulator Company LLC 130 Gilbert Street Le Roy, New York 14482 USA Tel: 585-768-5023 Fax: 585-768-5054 CKo(a)lappinsulator.com www.lappinsulator.com

22 years, 2 months

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HP2000/Access - (hpemu clarification)

by aek＠spies.com

guess I am looking for a tape drive that will hook to a pc with controller ready to go turnkey... any suggestions? -- HP 88780 with 800bpi option (you didn't say if they are 800 or 1600) and scsi intf. or an M4 Data 9914. Or just fedex 'em up here an I can read them for you. Have you figured out any more about the Univac tapes that were donated?

22 years, 2 months

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RX8E printset?

by dickset＠amanda.spole.gov

Over on the pd8-lovers list, someone has been discussing adding an RX8E to his -8/i (http://www.ig-uem.ch/Docs/RX8_8I_1.pdf). I wanted to cross check some info with the RX8E prints, but can't find them at the usual places. Can someone e-mail me a URL of where I can pick up a pdf of the RX8E schematics? My goal is to examine how this guy wired up his RX8E interface to a posi-bus machine, then look at *building* an RX8L >from M-series modules (since I have no spare RX8Es lying around). Obviously, all I can do from here is plan, but I have all winter to do it in. It's been a dream of mine for a long time to get OS/8 on a pre- OMNIBUS -8. -ethan -- Ethan Dicks, A-130-S Current South Pole Weather at 28-Jan-2004 19:50 Z South Pole Station PSC 468 Box 400 Temp -19.6 F (-28.7 C) Windchill -35.3 F (-37.4 C) APO AP 96598 Wind 6.2 kts Grid 033 Barometer 687.1 mb (10361. ft) Ethan.Dicks(a)amanda.spole.gov http://penguincentral.com/penguincentral.html

22 years, 2 months

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RK07 media

by dcorbin＠telular.com

quite possibly interested..... Please forward any additional information to me : dvcorbin(a)optonline.net -----Original Message----- From: cctalk-bounces(a)classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-bounces@classiccmp.org]On Behalf Of John Allain Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2004 11:31 AM To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: RK07 media Message I got from an outside source: "Are you at all interested in RK07 cartridges/packs? Do you think anyone would be?" Contact me and I'll forward your requests. John A.

22 years, 2 months

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Did you guys see this? 24 C1101A gold RAM chips = $418

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

<http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2781001588&category=1247 &sspagename=STRK%3AMEBWA%3AIT&rd=1> To hell collecting computers! We should rip them apart for the chips! </flamebait> Joe

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HP2000/Access - (hpemu clarification)

by MGemeny＠pgcps.org

Jay wrote: >To my knowledge the only way SIMH might do this is if you ran multiple >copies of SIMH, perhaps in separate windows. And even then, not sure it >would let you cross connect cables between the systems. But I may be wrong >about this. Yep, that?s the way the Access Zip launches SIMH to run Access or ?F?. The two occurrences of SIMH are connected with a pair of sockets. Sure, we know it?s inefficient. But just now, it?s the only way to run ?F? or Access, without real hardware, and, they both do run under simulation, IOP and all! I had a guest come over this past weekend with a set of tapes and we were able to read and reload his tapes into a running simulation. All in all, we spent 9 hours at it, and 2 of those were spent breaking into his system. What we ended up doing was to ?RESTORE? a $HELLO from some other HIBE tape in order to get past his ridiculously tight security. We had a blast banging our heads together on it, but I want to let him tell that story. The bottom line is that Access IS ALIVE under simulation!!!! It only gets better from here? Take the ZIP for a spin! Mike.

22 years, 2 months

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HP2000/Access - (hpemu clarification)

by MGemeny＠pgcps.org

Sure, Running on Wondoz ME on a Sony VAIO Slimtop 800 with an 800 MHz Pentium 3 with both occurrences of SIMH resting minimized on the task bar. BTEST 1 Min 4 Sec FPTS9 54 sec This actually suppressed me, some aspects of the simulation seem sluggish. Logging in for example seems slower than I remember on real hardware. Perhaps we should try some other benchmarks that would test the speed of chaining with the targets csaved or saved. Hope this helps, Mike.

22 years, 2 months

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Voltage & Current..

by dwight.elvey＠amd.com

And, you checked the polarity? Dwight >From: "Lyos Norezel" <lyosnorezel(a)yahoo.com> > >Nope... I checked this it was DC like it needed. > >I've been following this thread, but I'm betting that the original >author plugged an AC adapter where it wanted DC, or vice versa. >That will often cause a "blue-smoke" level event. >

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RL02 in Germany

by cheri-post＠web.de

> On Wed, Jan 28, 2004 at 08:53:51AM +0100, Andreas Holz wrote: > > > I'm looking despeately for a RL02. > Drive or disk pack? > > BTW: I am looking for RL02 rack mount rails, a M8061 RLV12 QBus and a > M7762 RL11 UniBus controler. > -- Jochen, a RLV12 Card had been sold on Ebay.de 2 months ago for 20 EUR, if I remember well. Sometimes, qbus cards are being sold for 10 to 20 EUR, these prices seem affordable to me. Pierre ______________________________________________________________________________ Erdbeben im Iran: Zehntausende Kinder brauchen Hilfe. UNICEF hilft den Kindern - helfen Sie mit! https://www.unicef.de/spe/spe_03.php

22 years, 2 months

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scanning electron microscope

by ggt＠oersted.dtu.dk

Hello Jonathan, I'm looking for a SEM for inspection of electronic devices for the space instrumentation dept. at the Technical University of Denmark, and found your one year old mail about the WB-6 SEM. Is this unit still available ? BR G?sta Thuesen Associate Professor, M.Sc., Ph.D. Measurement & Instrumentation Systems Building 327 Technical University of Denmark DK-2800 Lyngby Denmark Phone (work): +45 4525 3444 Fax (work): +45 4588 7133

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emulation.net

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

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Commodore 64/128 Computers for pickup in Concord, NH, USA

by vcf＠siconic.com

Don has what seems to be a nice load of Commodore free for pickup from his home in Concord, New Hampshire. As always, please contact Don directly. Reply-to: don-w(a)jjtekonline.net ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 07:41:43 -0500 From: Don Wilson <don-w(a)jjtekonline.net> To: donate(a)vintage.org Subject: Commodore Computer I have a lot of software to go along with commodore C64' keyboards and 128" keyboards to go along with that I have 4 or 5 floppy disks, one IBM floppy disk, several battery packs, monitor. I also have several upgrades that I purchased one is the swift link, game cartridge and plenty of games. I have a multitude of program disks too. All in all the original cost of everything I have at that time cost me over $2000.00. I would be happy to donate everything, however I would prefer to have it picked up at my home. I will wait for a response before I give out my address, however I live in Concord, NH. Willie -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org [ Old computing resources for business || Buy/Sell/Trade Vintage Computers ] [ and academia at www.VintageTech.com || at http://marketplace.vintage.org ]

22 years, 2 months

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hp 10391b inverse assembler toolkit availability

by duggit＠ix.netcom.com

Hello George Najarian, Were you ever able to locate the HP 10391B Inverse Assembler toolset? If so, could you provide a link to the site or a vendor with reasonable prices? Any help is appreciated. Thanks in advance, Doug DeHority / duggit(a)ix.netcom.com

22 years, 2 months

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gray wall docs free in florida (fwd)

by vaxzilla＠jarai.org

I noticed this in comp.os.vms and thought someone here might be interested. I'll leave you to decipher the guy's real e-mail address. -brian. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 23:27:24 +0000 (UTC) >From: John Comeau <this-wont-go-to-me(a)risp.org> Newsgroups: comp.os.vms Subject: Re: gray wall docs free in florida John Comeau <i-wont-receive-this(a)risp.org> wrote: > Got VAX/VMS docs for 5.0 to give away. But only if you pick up, in > South Florida; I won't be doing any packing or lifting, no matter > how much you might be willing to pay. OK, guess they're headed for the dumpster... too bad. -- jcomeau(a)org.risp SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.lonestar.org

22 years, 2 months

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Voltage & Current..

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Jan 26, 14:28, Kevin Handy wrote: > Pete Turnbull wrote: > > >Well, there might be a way to deal with the problem. [ stuff about analysing voltage ] > I've been following this thread, but I'm betting that the original > author plugged an AC adapter where it wanted DC, or vice versa. > That will often cause a "blue-smoke" level event. This is a non-sequitur :-) I was replying to David Corbin's problem, not the phone with smoke signalling. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

22 years, 2 months

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interesting finds: Datapoint 2400 for HP 1000?

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

I was digging through a bunch of cables today and found a DataPoint 2400 MODEM with the cables still attached. The cables look like they're for an HP 1000. The hoods on the far end said HP (something)(something)618. I've looked and tried to figure out what card that might be but didn't find anything. Asnybody know what card that is? Anybody know anything about the DataPoint 2400 MODEM? I didn't see a manufacturer's name but it has the Bell symbol on it. Joe

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MicroVAX I update

by TRASH3＠splab.cas.neu.edu

I could have sworn that about a month ago I posted the meaning of the codes for a MV I and that it was waiting for a boot command... Joe Heck

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New Classic Finds and etc. (Long)

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Jan 23, 14:50, Christian Fandt wrote: > Just need a toner cartridge for the LJ III as the photodrum has a seemingly > permanent toner stain on its surface and horizontal groove along its length > from where the toner scraper had set stationary for 10+ years. Leaves a > horiz. line and faint blotches on printed sheets. Will not cleanup by > itself. Okay for draft printing but not for stuff one would want to archive > such as DEC manual reprints, etc. (or my college homework :-). Anybody know > if touching the photodrum with cleaner of some sort and soft cloth will > destroy it?? The built-in scrapper will not clear the stuck-on toner. Still > that darned groove though . . . Once, I got some self-adhesive labels wrapped around the drum on a Canon, and with nothing to lose, used cotton pads and iso-propyl alcohol to remove them. After a few sheets, it was as good as new. > Also, anybody have a JetDirect Ethernet card for the LaserJet III they > could part with? Cannot yet determine the exact part # at this time via > online searches. No mention in manual as this option may not have been > developed at time of publication (1990). They became available later. All the IIIs I've seen had JetDirect cards (they all came from netwroked environments). They only work as single-protocol in a III, but just about any JetDirect MIO card should work, as far as I remember. Look for J2250A, J2550B, J2552A or J2552B (that's what are in my 4s, 5s, and 1600). -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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Furgusson BigBoard revived!

by aek＠spies.com

I don't recall that there were many docs other than the one page sales brochure and the schematics for the BB I. -- I checked and what I have is for the BB II I think the original Xerox 820 board was VERY similar to the BB I though so those docs may help.

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Furgusson BigBoard revived!

by aek＠spies.com

> I've heard of, but never seen and know nothing about the BB II. -- Has a double density floppy, SASI interface, and STD bus connector I have the docs scanned, will try to get them on line for you. I may have BB I docs as well.

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WD1771 and WD179X data sheets?

by aek＠spies.com

www.bitsavers.org/pdf/westernDigital/_dataBooks part 1 of the '84 storage products book

22 years, 2 months

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VAX test program

by msokolov＠ivan.Harhan.ORG

I have written a VAX test program that probes various intricate aspects of the VAX that is running on in the areas that are defined as implementation-dependent or UNPREDICTABLE by VARM. It runs in user mode under Berkeley UNIX. Any flavor of Berkeley VAX UNIX should do, including Ultrix, although I can't make any guarantees about NetBSD as it has strayed so far from Berkeley UNIX that it has no business running on a VAX really. So if you have always wondered how exactly does your VAX handle something that VARM lists as UNPREDICTABLE, and you have Berkeley UNIX running, this program will tell you. The source is available on my FTP site at: ifctfvax.Harhan.ORG:/pub/VAX/vaxtest/vaxtest-1.0.tar.Z I have run it on my CVAXen and the output is in the same directory on the FTP site in file results.cvax. I will run it on a MicroVAX II in a couple of weeks (when I put one together for testing) and on Rigel in a few months (when I port 4.3BSD-Quasijarus to it). I have no other VAX implementations to test on, and I solicit input from the community. If you have a VAX on which you can run this program (i.e., one that runs any version of Berkeley UNIX or Ultrix), please run it and post or send me the output. I need to determine the characteristics and quirks of as many VAX implementations as possible. (If you are wondering why, this has to do with my project of designing and building a new VAX. Yes, I know that I simply need to follow the VAX spec and strictly speaking I don't need to look at any other implementations, but there is also the real world.) MS

22 years, 2 months

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WD1771 and WD179X data sheets?

by uban＠ubanproductions.com

Does someone have a scan of the Western Digital 1771 and 179X data sheets? I did not see them on Al's site. --tnx --tom

22 years, 2 months

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digital finds

by brad＠heeltoe.com

"Keys" wrote: >Got a digital MicroVAX 11, TU80 type unit, PDP 11/23 with 2 RL02's, and 59 >manuals Care to share? :-) I could use an 11/23 with an RL02... -brad

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digital finds

by jrkeys＠concentric.net

Got a digital MicroVAX 11, TU80 type unit, PDP 11/23 with 2 RL02's, and 59 manuals

22 years, 2 months

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8" floppy drive for PC, RS/6000, 68k Mac or Alpha

by doc＠mdrconsult.com

I want one. I can use a PCI, ISA, EISA, MCA (PS/2 or RS/6k), NuBus or QBus adapter. The main requirement is that hardware + software be able to low-level format disks to RX02. I have a YE Data YD-180 drive from an AS/400 that looks brand new. According to a couple of comp.os.cpm posts, it's a standard interface DSDD 1.2MB drive with DC24V/DC5V input. So far so good, and I have a couple of older ISA floppy controllers that should talk to it (right?), but I need a controller cable and power pinout for it. For that matter, between the DE9 power connector on the IBM sled and the power input on the drive itself, there's a small PDB that looks like it might be a transformer or step-down. Anybody know what voltage the AS/400 feeds it? Anybody happen to have an 8" enclosure and PSU they don't want? And, most importantly, that drive *will* format a disk as IBM 3740 format, right? I have 3 computers with RX02 drives, about 300 bulk-erased floppies, and no way to make the floppies useful in those drives*, and that's starting to p_ss me off. * a couple of places I can trade degaussed disks for formatted at varying ratios, and that's probably the cheapest way to go, but that's hardly the point, right? Doc

22 years, 2 months

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Apple 'Star Trek'?

by cb＠mythtech.net

>Googling around for more info on NeXT Computer to flesh out my new NeXT page >on Binary Dinosaurs turned up something I'd really like to get my paws on >but I'll bet was consigned to the bin straight away - the 'star trek' >project started by Apple to port MacOS across to Intel hardware in the early >90s. So far I've found that a team of engineers succeeded in the port, but >it was canned in 1993 when Apple was moving from 68K to PowerPC processors >and it was found to be faster on a 486. I've never found anything that confirms the actual existance of said OS version. Although personally I don't doubt for a moment that it did (does) exist (I've just yet to see the smoking gun). I came back to the Apple Developer world in 95 (left the Apple Developer world in the late 80's), so I wasn't in a position to know anything that the developers might have known at that time. Although I suspect that none did know anything or there would be more "real" info out there. However, I do know that the later Rhapsody project did in fact take a turn to the Intel world. They got far enough on the first version of OS X for Intel that it was released to developers in beta (alpha?) form. I have a copy of it, at one point I had it installed on a P-166. It ran, but that was about all it did. I'd have to pull out my CDs of it to be sure, but I think the date for it was around 1997 or 1998. There should be info on this project available out there as it was no secret, it was originally a fully planned version of OS X, although it doesn't look anything like what OS X is now (from what I understand, its really an Apple-ized version of NeXTStep, but haven't never personally used/seen NeXTStep, I can't verify that). -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

22 years, 2 months

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New Classic Finds and etc. (Long)

by cfandt＠netsync.net

As some of you know, it's been quite awhile since I have posted much here. I was off list from early 2002 until June 2003 because of the large amount of traffic -some decidedly off-topic and a horribly stressful job. Had no time to keep up with this and several other old radio-related lists. Now that I'm out of work since June and presently working on a management degree, I've got some time to at least "lurk". I like the cctech/cctalk separation and subscribe only to the tech list. Anyway, I have added items to the Mound of Stuff around this house during the past August. There are several threads of discussion herein on at least three of those items . . . The significant goodies are a Panasonic CF-150B Business Partner and a Grid Systems GRiDLite Plus model 1040, both monochrome LCD laptops. The CF-150B has an 8 MHz V20 CPU, internal 720K 3.5" FDD, 640K RAM, AC wall wart, backlit LCD display (blue characters on green background), ROMed MS-DOS 3.30 (boots up as C:), optional 2400 bps modem (woohoo!) and optional EMS RAM Card expansion memory (1 meg). There is a separate power supply and a couple of spare NiCd battery packs (probably useless now), a couple of software disks (GWBASIC and MS-DOS 3.30 Utilities) and manuals for the modem, EMS RAM and system unit itself. The floppy does not read disks so there's troubleshooting which needs to be done sometime. Otherwise, it powers up and the built-in DOS & utilities work okay. The GRiDLite Plus, on the other hand, is not so well understood. There is no manual. A Google search found limited info here: http://www.computer-archiv.de/comp0139.htm , scroll down the page to "Gridlite Plus". Otherwise, just a bunch of battery suppliers. It has an 80C86 CPU, socket for an 8087 math coprocessor (empty), backlit LCD display (blue characters on green background much like the CF-150B, above), unknown amount of RAM, no modem in its compartment, and an internal 20 meg HDD. Cool. Upon powering up the screen shows "Phoenix ROM BIOS Ver. 2.03, 1/18/88" and a blinking cursor appears underneath while the HDD spins up. But the HDD shuts down shortly after it seems to do its initialization. Then after a minute or so passes a message "Hard Disk Diagnostic Failure" and "Disk Boot Failure" comes up. It keeps trying as another "Disk Boot Failure" message appears every minute or so. That's it. Dang. Anybody know anything about this particular machine? The HDD is JVC model JD3824G00-2 and is not quite the typical 3.5", 1" high IDE drive. Betcha they can't be found too often :( Thankfully, the external AC power supply and external 3.5" floppy drive came with the unit. However, the floppy doesn't show signs of life during the bootup process. Additionally, no keyboard input hits the screen although the default 15 character buffer fills and begins beeping at the 16th keystroke. Therefore, I cannot run SpinRite to checkout the HDD system or do much else. The OS's that are said in that website to be used in the GRiDLite are PenPoint, Penwindows, PenRight. What are all these?? Underneath a removable part of the case at the top rear of the machine there is a connector for the modem and there are eight ROM sockets, all empty. What are those for? A ROM-based OS or applications? The internal NiCd battery had wires soldered between its flat terminals and the respective spring leaf contacts in the system unit. Also, some clown broke the battery compartment latch during the sale before I had bought it thus causing the battery to not set tightly in its compartment. However the PSU is marked as used for Gridcase 1200, 1307, 1500 and the 3403 Drive. Maybe the 60 watt power output is too low to handle the HDD in the GRiDLite?? The PSU model number I have is 34170 if that helps. More troubleshooting to do. That is all I know about this machine except for the German site shown above. Anybody have more info on these laptops? I'm especially curious about the GRiDLite Plus. Another neat item I got is a really pristine HP LaserJet III for $15. Had only 600 sheets reported on the page counter shown on its test page. Absolutely perfectly clean everywhere inside. No stray toner powder nor paper dust. Has a 3rd party 4 meg memory card (total RAM: 5120K). In fact it was in its original box with manuals, all loosely covered with its packing plastic bag. Built February '92. It didn't work, just threw Error 52's which were not described in the manual. But online searching found a really good website, IMO, on printer repair and parts. FYI it is: http://fixyourownprinter.com/ A few of you may already know of this place. I followed the instructions to "tweak" a couple of connectors at: http://fixyourownprinter.com/tweaking.html -which nailed the problem exactly. Those connectors Canon had used (the laser engine maker for this machine) were very poorly engineered, IMHO. I got the LJ III from a household sale of stuff from a bankrupt small computer service shop along with the two laptops mentioned above plus three *carloads* of NOS mid-90's PeeCee motherboards, I/O boards, s/w, etc. mentioned below. I figure the guy simply could not figure out the Error 52 problem. He evidently did not contact HP about warranty repair for some reason and just chucked the boxed unit into storage for the past ten years. Worth noting, he decidedly proved to his family and the banks that he had NO comprehension of how to spend/save money. Hence, his bankruptcy in 1999. Thus my ability to vacuum up some neat almost retro stuff for cheap. You wouldn't believe the amount of NOS Tandy stuff for which I wasn't able to find funds: three brand new Tandy 100's plus carrying cases, two of the little PC2's with printers and a PC1 with printer, all with bunches of s/w & accessories went for only $200 for the lot. I scrounged up about $150 for all the rest of the stuff described here. Just need a toner cartridge for the LJ III as the photodrum has a seemingly permanent toner stain on its surface and horizontal groove along its length >from where the toner scraper had set stationary for 10+ years. Leaves a horiz. line and faint blotches on printed sheets. Will not cleanup by itself. Okay for draft printing but not for stuff one would want to archive such as DEC manual reprints, etc. (or my college homework :-). Anybody know if touching the photodrum with cleaner of some sort and soft cloth will destroy it?? The built-in scrapper will not clear the stuck-on toner. Still that darned groove though . . . Also, anybody have a JetDirect Ethernet card for the LaserJet III they could part with? Cannot yet determine the exact part # at this time via online searches. No mention in manual as this option may not have been developed at time of publication (1990). They became available later. Nevertheless, best deal I've made in quite awhile because when I resolve the toner cart problem, I'll have a kind of printer I've always wanted. Price was just fine for this unemployed fella :-) Some of that heap of On topic and Off topic NOS PeeCee boards and misc stuff include a Copy II PC board including manual and disk, a dozen or so Pentium I and several P-II (slot 1) mainboards, about 15 or so 486 mainboards, several PCI video and network cards, 10BaseT hubs and NICs, bunches of software manuals and disks (some just plain obsolete and almost useless, others good for retrocomputing :-), a complete P-II 233 MHz machine full of application software (working perfectly after clock battery replaced!), a complete working Pentium I 233 MHz machine with licensed W95 and 64 Mb RAM, complete working 486 66MHz machine w/64 Mb Ram and hot switchable, removable HDD module (only 80 Mb :-( capacity), bunches of common ISA boards, a LOT of MFM drive cables, a LOT of floppy drive cables, empty cases, etc. Did I mention a LOT of several types of cables? Someday I will cull out most of the boards and stuff out of that heap (both on topic and off topic) and make them available to new homes, but it will be awhile. Schoolwork calls. Note: "Copy II PC" stuff is off limits! :-) :-) OT DEPARTMENT (Close your eyes if you don't want to see it :-) 1.) Anybody have a Pentium III (three), 550 MHz, Slot 1 processor for sale? Cooling fan too? I've got a Linux system I've hammered together from that heap of parts I mention above for which I need this CPU. Only thing lacking for now. Used a nice Soyo SY-6BB mainboard (early version) found in that heap o' stuff (ca. 1998). 2.) Who is a reliable supplier of an AMD Athlon XP 2000+ CPU with mounted fan and warranty for a fair price? Tons of 'em available online, but who seems to be best as far as price/reputation/support, in that order? I do not frequently purchase the latest stuff and have no good feel for who's who. I prefer to live on the "Trailing Edge" of contemporary computing, so this Athlon stuff is still a little out of my scope (until one or two generations have passed ;). (Didn't Tim Shoppa name his company along those lines- Trailing Edge?) The Athlon CPU is for our son's new machine which Beverly and I have been quietly gathering parts over the past several months. He'll be 11 in a few weeks and due for a new machine to replace the Pentium 100 I whipped up for him five years ago. At least he should have something fairly contemporary other than just that infernal Sony PS-2. The machine I'm writing this upon is also sorta new from about 10 months ago - Athlon XP 1500+, 512 Mb RAM, GeForce 4 video, Jetway mainboard, windoze 98SE. Hope it lasts (technologically) until 2005 or 6, but that of course depends upon what M$ determines we "need". On the other hand, I plan to be M$ free before that provided office and productivity applications become pretty much seamless between M$ and Linux. But I still like using the older stuff . . . /OT DEPARTMENT Speaking of Tim Shoppa, where is he nowadays anyway? He was a major asset to DEC enthusiasts everywhere and to the old ClassicCmp list in general. Regards, Chris NNNN Christian Fandt, Electronic/Electrical Historian Jamestown, NY USA cfandt(a)netsync.net Member of Antique Wireless Association URL: http://www.antiquewireless.org/

22 years, 2 months

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[FAQ publication?] was: RE: MicroVAX I update

by cfandt＠netsync.net

On 1/26/04 6:33:42 PM, General Discussion: On-Topic Posts Only (cctech(a)classiccmp.org) wrote: > I could have sworn that about a month ago I posted the meaning of the > codes for a MV I and that it was waiting for a boot command... > > Joe Heck This brings up something I'd been thinking upon once in a while. I propose the following: 1.) For some of the more frequently discussed machines (not just DEC) there ought to be a FAQ generated by those who're expert in a particular machine or machines. In this case, expected MV I boot routine would be one of the things listed plus expected failure modes based upon configuration or hardware failures (or complete lack of an expected hardware item). Like Adrian/Witchy, most of us forget stuff after a long time away and this would help us with much of the troubleshooting (I forget stuff after *short* times myself, darn it). Actually, any machine, not just the frequently discussed machines should be included in the FAQ archive. There are folks who know lots about obscure machines and for the interest of preservation of our beloved machines, we need to have access to anything that could possibly come along. 2.) Perhaps Jay could host FAQs in some sort of indexed file system, in ASCII which is normally viewable by nearly anyone on most any platform. Text-based files shouldn't take up much room. 3.) Also, I propose that Jay script the cc servers to automatically broadcast a message reminding folks of the location of the FAQs, how to use them and perhaps some basic rules for posting stuff to the cc lists (aimed toward newbies for instance). The interval could be once a week, every 15 days, 30 days or whatever between. Christian Fandt, Electronic/Electrical Historian Jamestown, NY USA cfandt(a)netsync.net Member of Antique Wireless Association URL: http://www.antiquewireless.org/

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http://www.classiccmp.org/pipermail/cctalk/2002-September/005891.html

by kabuki_pheonix＠yahoo.co.uk

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Old MFM controller on a PCI bus machine

by e.huininga＠sozawe.groningen.nl

You could try a BIOS update to see if this works. Also you could try deactivating the onboard IDE controller since this one usually uses interrupts 14 and 15. Cheers, Eelco >>> Vintage Computer Festival <vcf(a)siconic.com> 01/26 7:43 >>> I haven't played with MFM hard drives and controllers in a LONG time (about 10 years now) so I have some questions. I'll start off easy. Should there be any reason an old 16-bit ISA MFM controller won't work properly in a Pentium-class PC with ISA and PCI slots? I imagine I would just have to configure the BIOS to reserve the proper interrupt (I believe it's 14, correct?) for the MFM controller. I did all this but the MFM controller wreaked havoc on the system. It killed the on-board floppy disk and IDE controllers (not physically killed but basically disabled them and the system couldn't boot). I'm trying to determine if there is a natural conflict before I venture forth with this configuration. This may be a problem related to the PC I'm trying to plug the card into because there are other oddities with the IDE controller that is preventing the system from booting with 4 hard drives installed (2 per IDE interface). It halts after it auto-recognizes the drives on the primary controller. Weird. Anyway, any insight would be appreciated. I'm going to do more experimentation in the meantime. I'll get another PC with ISA and PCI slots to work with, and will also find an old 386 to test the MFM controller on to make sure it is working fine. -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org [ Old computing resources for business || Buy/Sell/Trade Vintage Computers ] [ and academia at www.VintageTech.com || at http://marketplace.vintage.org ]

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Apple 'Star Trek'?

by brad＠heeltoe.com

>> Apparently the head of technology saw his pink slip flash before his eyes >> when he realized that a Mac OS on PC hardware would cause the elimination >> of Mac hardware and the project was scuttled internally... I remember attending a mac developer's conference when that happened. Kin Seto (an evangelist) told me about it. They waffled back and forth about whether to show it to anyone. At one point we were told they would. Then later, not. Does anyone know who the "head of technology" on that project was? Or anyone who worked on it? (this may be the wrong list :-) -brad

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Zenith Z150 complete system available

by kla＠helios.augustana.edu

After a long hiatus from ClassicCmp (back before the split to two lists), I'm back for awhile. And I think I'm ready to part with a system I've had since the mid-80s, assuming there is someone interested. I have a complete, original-owner Zenith Z150 (PC compatible) system. Alas, the system is not running (the last time I tried, it was stopping on the CPU POST test). I bought this when I was in graduate school and used it to both write the initial FORTRAN code for my computer model, and to write my doctoral dissertation. This system includes the original keyboard and the single-color (green) CGA monitor. Purchased with two 5-1/4-inch floppy drives and a single 320 Kbyte memory card. After-market mods included adding a 20-Mbyte MFM-RLL hard drive (below the diskette drives, so both are still there), the NEC V20 (or was that V30) CPU replacement, and the MR-150 (?) memory mod that let you replace the five banks of 64K chips with 256K chips and get full memory (640Kbyte, plus a bank below the video memory) and a 512Kbyte ram disk (bank-switched into place). Software (with diskettes and docs), much of it rebadged for Zenith, but also some MS-direct upgrades, includes DOS (various versions), diagnostics, MS FORTRAN (couple of versions), MS Word (DOS versions 1.x up to 5.x), etc. I've hung onto this for both sentimental reasons and because I didn't what a scrapper (here or in China) get it. I probably even have all the original paperwork if I look in the right box. At this point I'd rather not part-out the system, and would rather find an interested collector (preferably in the Midwest or local as I'd rather not ship, unless the price is right - I'm in Dubuque, Iowa). I recall a member of this list several years ago saying he had a bunch of replacement boards for the Z150, and so it could be made to be working again. I'm not crazy...I just would rather not see the waste (and my wife is tired of me storing and moving this system for all the years that I have). And I'd rather focus my attention on other types/flavors of computers right now. Write me if you are interested (with offers and trades). Now back to your regular programming on DEC PDP-8's, 11's, etc., which I need to get caught up on. Cheers/73, Kevin Anderson * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Kevin L. Anderson Ph.D., Geographer/GIS Analyst, Dubuque Iowa kla (at ) helios (dot) augustana (dot) edu * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

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[FAQ publication?] was: RE: MicroVAX I update

by msokolov＠ivan.Harhan.ORG

Witchy <witchy(a)binarydinosaurs.co.uk> wrote: > I'd forgotten for example that > early MicroVAX consoles didn't include things like a useful SHOW command. > With the MV I you don't even have the good ol' TEST 50 (or was it 75?) to > show the config. My hunch is that MV I has a microcode console like 11/750 and 8200, so it's going to be VERY terse and bare-bones. MV II (KA630) has a 64 KB ROM with the console coded in VAX instructions, but you still have single-character commands and fairly minimal subset functionality. T 50 (T, not TEST) is on the VS2000. I know your feeling, I've also been too used to my KA655s for too long. My current day job is implementing a ROM monitor for custom PowerPC products. Being the VAX lover that I am, I designed it to look like a VAX console. I implemented the >>> prompt and the usual commands, though changed a bit since the PowerPC CPU is most definitely not a VAX (unfortunately). It's open source in my CVS, I will post a pointer when the code is a bit cleaner so I'm not embarrassed to show it to the world. MS (you've guessed it right... the example I modeled it after is KA655)

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FA: DEC H-214 Core memory

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

Core memory and a load of HP calculator parts including some really unusual stuff. <http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewSellersOtherItems&userid=rigdonj> Joe

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VAX/VMS 9trk tape success

by jpl15＠panix.com

Thanks to many, in particular Witchy (cheers, mate! absolutely *brill*) for the info on sysgenning SCSI stuff into VMS. $mou MKB0: _label: test $copy welcome.txt mkb0: [spin/stop - spin/stop - spinspin stop] $dir MKB0: [spin/stop etc etc] Directory MKB0:[] Welcome.txt;1 Total of 1 files $type MKB0:welcome.txt [glorious spinning/stopping] Welcome to OpenVMS VAX V7.2 $ Now I can read/write 9trk tape to laptop and/or VAXstation. woo-freakin-hoo!! Next: Ethernet.... Cheers John

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what bus is it?

by vax3900＠yahoo.com

Take a look of the auction http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3454239271&category=1244 I am curious what bus the edge connector is of the big 486 board? It apparently is not 16 bit ISA, VISA, or ESIA. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it! http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ps/sb/

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Old MFM controller on a PCI bus machine

by vcf＠siconic.com

I haven't played with MFM hard drives and controllers in a LONG time (about 10 years now) so I have some questions. I'll start off easy. Should there be any reason an old 16-bit ISA MFM controller won't work properly in a Pentium-class PC with ISA and PCI slots? I imagine I would just have to configure the BIOS to reserve the proper interrupt (I believe it's 14, correct?) for the MFM controller. I did all this but the MFM controller wreaked havoc on the system. It killed the on-board floppy disk and IDE controllers (not physically killed but basically disabled them and the system couldn't boot). I'm trying to determine if there is a natural conflict before I venture forth with this configuration. This may be a problem related to the PC I'm trying to plug the card into because there are other oddities with the IDE controller that is preventing the system from booting with 4 hard drives installed (2 per IDE interface). It halts after it auto-recognizes the drives on the primary controller. Weird. Anyway, any insight would be appreciated. I'm going to do more experimentation in the meantime. I'll get another PC with ISA and PCI slots to work with, and will also find an old 386 to test the MFM controller on to make sure it is working fine. -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org [ Old computing resources for business || Buy/Sell/Trade Vintage Computers ] [ and academia at www.VintageTech.com || at http://marketplace.vintage.org ]

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Looking for Amiga Gods

by vcf＠siconic.com

I'm seeking out for a friend the game Gods for the Amiga. I'd like to get the full original package with all the trimmings preferably. Has anyone got a copy of this that they'd like to sell? -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org [ Old computing resources for business || Buy/Sell/Trade Vintage Computers ] [ and academia at www.VintageTech.com || at http://marketplace.vintage.org ]

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Batteries, wallwarts, voltages and currents Re: New Classic Finds and etc. (Long)

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Jan 26, 17:28, Joe R. wrote: > I was referring to open circuit > voltage which is how batteries are usually measured since "under load > voltage" is obviously dependent on the load. Actually, to nitpick, dry cells at least are properly measured under a light load, because as they age, they develop higher internal resistance. Measuring them with a high impedance voltmeter will suggest they're good when they're not. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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This just makes me really SICK

by jwest＠classiccmp.org

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2781026641&category=1247 Not to mention the ebay id of "gold snipper" And the fine print says "pulled from a retired HP 2117F Don't these people know it's worth more together??? *sigh*

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HP Basic/Workstation 300 'SYSTM' file needed

by msg＠waste.org

Greetings: In attempting to salvage some files from an HPIB drive which is ailing, I installed RMB Kermit to do serial xfers (long files > LIF floppy capacity) however it needs Basic 6.x and we've got 4.0. Would a kind soul please send us the 6.0 system file (it can be converted to an MSDOS file using the 'lifutil' utility (use Binary/DFS mode) so we can fire up kermit and rescue the data before the drive dies? ('lifutil.exe' is available at ftp://ftp.cybertheque.org/pub/lifutils) All help much appreciated. Michael Grigoni Cybertheque Museum

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Need Computer room flooring

by mark＠vzn.com

Jorge. I'm looking for about 120 sq ft of Computer room flooring at a low cost.. shipping address is Sioux City, Iowa 51106 Please respond ASAP... Thank you, Mark

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deciphering memory chips

by teoz＠neo.rr.com

What's a good online resource to figure out what type of memory chips you have? I have an old matrox Ultima + VLB card that has 2mb vram (consisting of 8 x KM428C25J-6 chips) and has 8 more sockets for 2mb more memory (the type where the chip pins are curled around and point to the bottom of the chip) Are these common chips? Most video cards I have seen either use dram or edo ram.

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"(Ping) Paging Chris Johnson, paging Chris Johnson."

by netsurfer_x1＠fastmailbox.net

Anyone know whatever happened to Chris Johnson? I sent off for an HP-85 >from him (back in late September last year), & still haven't recieved it! -- David Vohs netsurfer_x1(a)fastmailbox.net -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Access your email from home and the web

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Emulators of Classic Computers

by Lee.Davison＠merlincommunications.com

> You also can't beat tubes for high output RF amplifiers. We have some here, 2 * BY1144 triode, class B, 250KW carrier, and TH538 tetrode, single ended, 300KW carrier. The filaments alone on the BY1144s take 5KW. Lee. ________________________________________________________________________ This e-mail has been scanned for all viruses by Star Internet. The service is powered by MessageLabs. For more information on a proactive anti-virus service working around the clock, around the globe, visit: http://www.star.net.uk ________________________________________________________________________

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MicroVAX I update

by witchy＠binarydinosaurs.co.uk

Hi folks, Well, I've just board swapped the entire VAX into my MicroPDP cab and it still gets the same error and stops at 3 with an error on the console of '00000000 03' Can anyone remember the uVAX I's boot sequence or remember what it's supposed to do at that point? I've just had a nasty thought in that it might be looking for the RQDX1 and/or RD52 and it's those that are dead. Can I use the RQDX3 in there instead? All *looks* fine with the CPU since it appears to pass its tests. cheers! -- Adrian/Witchy www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk - possibly the UK's biggest online computer museum www.snakebiteandblack.co.uk - ex-monthly gothic shenanigans :o(

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Voltage & Current..

by dvcorbin＠optonline.net

Jim, Just to clarify, we are NOT trying to regulate the voltage. Just moniotor if the House AC is stable and within "tolerance". If brown outs are common it needs to be logged (even though it does NOT effect the performance of the device). Also a low A/C voltage may not be providing enough to charge the backup battery. Therefore none of this is part of the control circuitry, but rather more of a crude A/C voltmeter. In terms of "how cheap", the company eliminated even low cost items such items as "berg header" type jumpers (less than 1 penny apiece!). Also by the time it was realized (I am a software consultant to the client on this project and was NOT responsible for the hardware design) that this was an issue, the boards had already been layed-out (and about 150 of them assembled EVEN before a single line of software was written) for the 1000 piece pre-production run. David

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