- test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org - classiccmp.org

by sjhill＠realitydiluted.com

Greetings. I discovered on Google that about a year or more ago, you had copies of SGI Pipeline magazine and such. Any remote chance you still have this stuff? Thanks. -Steve

22 years, 2 months

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Wooden cases (was: New find: Nascom)

by witchy＠binarydinosaurs.co.uk

Jules' message about ugly wooden cases made me think about the Tangerine Microtan 65 I had in the back of the car the last time we met. Top quality case, designed to withstand being trampled by a herd of Wildebeeste I think. http://www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk/Museum/Tangerine/DSCF5879.JPG Yes, that's an Apple ][ keyboard :) On top is the T.U.G ROMboard (1981), a blinkenlights panel and an Eprom blower that are both connected to internal serial ports on the TANEX expansion board. The machine came with the ASCII keyboard and the original Tangerine Hex keypad and the case features RF, power and keyboard connectors. Inside is the PSU, Microtan itself and the TANEX on a 2 slot backplane. Marvellous :) -- Adrian/Witchy Owner & Webmaster, Binary Dinosaurs www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk - possibly the UK's biggest online computer museum www.snakebiteandblack.co.uk - ex-monthly gothic shenanigans :o(

22 years, 2 months

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UP600 Software

by WilcoxNS＠nv.doe.gov

I read your message on one of the boards and was wondering if this offer is still avalible: " I also have a copy of the UP600 software :)". Anything dealing with the UP600 would be great. NIck

22 years, 2 months

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Parallel keyboard interfacing

by RCini＠congressfinancial.com

Hello, all: I was browsing the Mini-ITX motherboard site recently (http://www.mini-itx.com) and was intrigued by some of the cloaked "classic" PC projects. The Mini-ITX is an extremely small form-factor PC motherboard and this site outlines people's homebrewed projects. Anyway, there's a project using an Atari 800, a Commodore 64 and a Commodore SX-64. This got me to thinking. In these projects the keyboard is left in the case as a prop (non-working). I was thinking about using a busted Amiga 500 (more internal space to mount stuff) for a project but I want to find out how hard it would be to make the prototype keyboard "working" by connecting it to a hacked PS/2 keyboard controller. Does anyone have a schematic for an actual PS/2 or AT keyboard? How are the keys connected to the keyboard controller? Thanks in advance. Rich

22 years, 2 months

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cctalk Digest, Vol 6, Issue 33

by MTPro＠aol.com

In a message dated 2/16/2004 12:47:43 PM Eastern Standard Time, cctalk-request(a)classiccmp.org writes: A quick browse thru one of my catalogs - (Newark) in the Belden section, shows them currently available - part number 17280 for 'hot left of gnd' and 17952 for 'hot right of gnd' pinning. Newark stock numbers: 36F987 for the 17280 36F986 for the 17952 -986 is $6.32 -987 is $5.67 Hi John, thank you for that information. Do you know how I can tell if I need hot left vs. hot right? Is the Newark catalog available in the US? Thanks, David

22 years, 2 months

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ever de-rack a TS11?

by brad＠heeltoe.com

Has anyone ever removed a TS-11 from a rack? Any advice? I assume the first thing to do it to remove the door (after disconnecting all the cables :-) Once the door is odd it looks like the front screws will allow the frame to slide forward and out. Is the frame heavy? (i.e. can one person remove it?) -brad

22 years, 2 months

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FS: Compaq Proliant 4100 with Wide-Ultra SCSI-3 (Model UE) interface

by vcf＠siconic.com

I just got in a Compaq Proliant 4100 Storage System UE with Wide-Ultra SCSI-3 interface (Model UE). It has 5 drive chassis and dual hot-swap power supplies. Both supplies fire up nicely, fans come on, all pertinents LEDs show normal operation. I have no drives to test with so selling as-is. Interested? I'm not expecting much. Make an offer. Best offer by 2/21 gets it. Reply directly (private mail). List responses will be mocked and derided. Shipped weight: 55lbs >From ZIP code 94550 -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org [ Old computing resources for business || Buy/Sell/Trade Vintage Computers ] [ and academia at www.VintageTech.com || at http://marketplace.vintage.org ]

22 years, 2 months

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Got a DEC 2000 Alpha server, need help

by aek＠spies.com

> Isn't it time to either kill DECUS, or turn it into something more useful? It died when they threw out the program libraries for anything that wasn't a VAX Resurrection of those libraries will take years, thanks a lot guys..

22 years, 2 months

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RSX11m.dsk needed

by artem_55555＠yahoo.com

Dear All: Could you advise me on where I can get the above to use for E11? Thank you. Artem Kovalenko. artem_55555(a)yahoo.com __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance: Get your refund fast by filing online. http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html

22 years, 2 months

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VT420 experiment needed

by msokolov＠ivan.Harhan.ORG

Witchy <witchy(a)binarydinosaurs.co.uk> wrote: > It sends a <CR>. Dot sends a dot :) OK, so these are out-of-compose keys like arrows and function keys, and like the whole keypad on VT2xx/3xx. > Verified against asciitable.com..... Umm, you don't remember the entire ASCII table by heart? Tsk tsk. This is the kind of thing that everyone should know as most basic, so if anyone wakes you up in the middle of the night and asks you to recite the ASCII table, you ought to be able to just recite all 128 characters immediately. (Or at least the 96 characters from space through delete plus the most basic controls, I'll grant that most of the C0 control characters are not used anywhere and have no real meaning beyond the paper spec.) > I get a beep and the 2nd keypress, as I expected. Wait a moment, are you saying that if you enter a code between 80 and 9F through hex compose while the terminal is set for VT400 mode, 7-bit controls in Setup, it beeps in error and sends nothing? This is not what the manual says, it says that it sends the two-byte 7-bit escape sequence equivalent to the C1 control character entered. So the actual behaviour differs from documentation here, right? MS

22 years, 2 months

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VT420 experiment needed

by msokolov＠ivan.Harhan.ORG

Witchy <witchy(a)binarydinosaurs.co.uk> wrote: > Keypad Enter just ends the compose sequence, So after canceling the compose, it does NOT transmit the normal code(s) for keypad Enter (CR, CR LF, or SS3 M)? Are you sure? Maybe you were testing in a mode where it sent CR which was invisible? Could you try again with the terminal set to local mode, display controls? According to the docs (and actual behaviour on VT320) whenever you press a key outside "normal" in a compose sequence, it cancels the compose and then the key does its normal action. The only exception is Delete, which is the key you should press to get out of compose mode you entered unintentionally. > Interesting. I've always had my terminals set to 7 bit space parity - > software needs from many moons ago I used to use the VT100 mode (and still do on console/test terminals) which has the same effect of forcing a 7-bit only Universe. In spring of last year I migrated to using an 8-bit environment on the terminal on my desk in the command room (one I'm typing on right now) to support Russian. Of course DEC built its classic hardware during the Cold War and didn't support Russian, but I've hacked it in. I use a downline-loaded 96-character KOI8-E set for my GR set on output, and since I don't have the guts to tear the VT apart, get to its firmware ROM, and Russify the keyboard input firmware, I have instead implemented a hack in the Berkeley UNIX tty driver to enter Russian in KOI-8 from the VT320 keyboard. > - but setting it to 8N shows some > interesting things going on with 'display controls' enabled: Yup, it's a whole new exciting 8-bit world out there. I was quite excited when I took a VT3xx out of VT100 mode and put it in its native mode for the first time. > Compose key plus keypad: > > 00 = <NUL> This is the hexadecimal compose feature. The keys of the numeric keypad become hex digits in compose mode. 0-9 are themselves, PF1-PF4 are A-D, '-' is E, and ',' is F. You can enter any 8-bit character from 00 to FF as two hex digits. > 11 = nothing Actually it's XON (^Q), though of course it's normally unseen. > 22 = " > 33 = 3 > 44 = D > 55 = U > 66 = f > 77 = w These are just ASCII. > 88 = HTS (horizontal tab stop?) > 99 = '99' stepped like a fraction. C1 high control characters. According to the manual the terminal only allows you to enter them if it's set for 8-bit controls in Setup. If it's set for 7-bit controls, the manual says that C1 chars entered through hex compose will be turned into equivalent 7-bit escape sequences. Can you test (using local mode, display controls) whether this is actually true? > Mixing keypad and keyboard keys results in a beep and end of sequence. OK, the reasonable behaviour, just as I was going to implement in my code. > With > parity set to 7S I get slightly different results, but then a lot of compose > sequences don't work with 7S. Well, yeah, Compose is basically for entering 8-bit characters. The standard ASCII main keypad supports all 128 possible 7-bit ASCII characters, so you should never need Compose or anything else for 7-bit ASCII, unless of course you are one of those strange people who configure their LK201s for some non-ASCII national mode. MS

22 years, 2 months

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CP/M and other software...

by patrick＠evocative.com

Through the generous donations of several individuals (especially Gaby Chaudry for allowing me to mirror her site and Barry Smith for a copy of his archives) I now have available over 600MB of CP/M software and data, as well as machine-specific information, from a variety of sources. I'm making this available now, although I'm not finished organizing it (there's a lot of duplication, gaps, etc.). Also a lot of the archives are in old (current-at-the-time) formats, and I will be indexing them for easier traversal. This has already been done for most of the ZIP archives, particularly those from Barry's collection. Please feel free to browse/download. I've hobbled the bandwidth a bit at the moment just to get a feel for how much this may affect my network, so please forgive the temporary configuration of the server. ftp://ftp.staunch89er.com/pub/ Suggestions, pointers, info about broken files, donations of missing files, etc., are all appreciated! --Patrick

22 years, 2 months

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[OT] HP 1630 Manual?

by patrick＠evocative.com

Does anyone have an electronic copy of the operator's manual for an HP 1630 logic analyzer (specifically 1630G, but I think any of the series will be pretty much the same). TIA! --Patrick

22 years, 2 months

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Two Strange Finds Today at Auction

by jrkeys＠concentric.net

Well today I got a pallet with 2 strange items on it: One was a AS/400 Advanced Type 9402 with all it's cables and a internal QIC 2GB tape drive. The second item was a Hitachi Color TV Camera with a zoom lens by Fujinon mounted on it. This a large unit dated as mfg'd in Oct 1979. There were several other items on the pallet but nothing of interest but for $5 I can't complain.

22 years, 2 months

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VT420 experiment needed

by msokolov＠ivan.Harhan.ORG

I'm writing a software module that turns a DEC LK201 keyboard into an IFCTF keyboard (one that generates ASCII/ISO codes and sequences) and among other features supported on LK201 in various DEC products I want to implement hex compose on the numeric keypad like on VT420. The problem is, some fine details of how it should work are unclear and I don't have a VT420 to experiment on, only VT320 and VT340 which don't have hex compose. I'm wondering if someone on this list has a VT420 and could test something for me. First, what happens if you press keypad Enter or keypad '.' in a compose sequence? I can think of 3 reasonable ways the firmware can handle this: * Do what it does for Tab, Return, arrow and functions keys in a compose sequence, i.e., cancel the compose sequence and let the pressed key do its normal non-compose action. * Ignore the key (suppress the keyclick) and remain in the compose sequence in the same state. * Store the invalid key in the compose sequence accumulator and proceed to the next character of the sequence. Then at the end of the compose sequence complain with a warning bell about the invalid sequence. Can someone with a VT420 please try this and see which of the above (or something else altogether) does the firmware do? Also what happens if you mix a main keypad key and a numeric keypad key in a compose sequence? MS P.S. Reverse-engineering state machines is fun, isn't it?

22 years, 2 months

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tu58 - reading off end of reel?

by toresbe＠ifi.uio.no

Well, might not help much, but no, there was no EOT detection. The TU55's on 'my' PDP-7 would often hit EOT while doing DECsys formatting. -tsb

22 years, 2 months

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OT: Paging James Willing

by aek＠spies.com

It's been a few months now.. Did anyone have any luck contacting him or recovering anything they bought?

22 years, 2 months

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sol-20'2

by nickpug＠hotmail.com

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22 years, 2 months

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sol-20's

by nickpug＠hotmail.com

This is what I have and will be selling in the near future. Two sol-20's both working perfectly in original condition. One is fully loaded with everything you could get from the factory(64k, networking board, ect). The other has either 4k or 16k (?) it acted as the others slave and does not have all the boards. Both have original monitors. I have all the documentation from the manuals to copy's of receipts, and original software (cp/m, cbasic). A micropolis 1054 5 inch 4 stack of drives which I still need to test just to be sure it still works( I cannot even find a reference to them on the online). And one decwriter with the form feed option and a built in keyboard. So you could network all this stuff and have three separate inputs (it is pretty cool). I have not decided how to auction them off yet (as a collection or individually). Any who that's what I got so tell me what you think if any one wants a preemptive bid let me know. thanks nIcK nickpug(a)hotmail.com _________________________________________________________________ Say “good-bye” to spam, viruses and pop-ups with MSN Premium -- free trial offer! http://click.atdmt.com/AVE/go/onm00200359ave/direct/01/

22 years, 2 months

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Heathkit Trainer Kit on eBAY

by jrkeys＠concentric.net

This is at $437 with 3 hours to go. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2786040034

22 years, 2 months

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Smoke on the Horizon... oh s**t!

by dwight.elvey＠amd.com

Hi The problem is that they are the best for some applications. The board space to use electrolytics is prohibitive. Even electrolytics can be an issue. There was the formula snafu a couple years ago for the electrolyte. I always replace old tantalums with similar looking ones. I just expect them to fail and don't otherwise worry about it. Most regulators can handle a few minutes of short. Dwight >From: msokolov(a)ivan.harhan.org > >So here is my question then: if not tantalum, then what? > >I've always been told that aluminum electrolytic caps were cheap stuff that >doesn't last and that tantalum caps are much better and (that was the claim) >eternal. So I guess this is wrong. What is the truth then? Is it the other >way around? Or are they both bad? And why are so many people, including on >this list, saying "aluminum electrolytics are cheap crap, use tantalum"? > >And what are the *good* caps to use? > >MS >

22 years, 2 months

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[OT] Speaking of explosion...

by patrick＠evocative.com

Sorry everyone, it's Friday, and my mind isn't on focused on work at all. I thought I'd share something I found humorous. I just got a recall notice and replacement battery for my Kyocera phone. In the letter that accompanied the new battery, written by a Kyocera attorney, it was said that there was little risk of a widespread problem, and only a few people had been affected by the (I quote) "rapid disassembly" of the device, and of those, only one person had received second degree burns, and property damage in other cases was minor. "Rapid disassembly" ??? As if angry little gnomes in the battery wake up and start taking it apart and throwing pieces around (flaming pieces, I'd assume, given that burns and property damage resulted)? I assume he meant it can *explode*, or is that a "forceful rapid disassembly" (and therefore something entirely different). Anyway, whatever you do, don't let those gnomes into your classic computers. I can only assume those of you with caps that have given in to rapid disassembly (or perhaps even forceful rapid disassembly, or worse, sudden intense warming accompanied by forceful rapid disassembly and ensuing off-gassing of combustion by-products) let those gnomes get in there. Have a great weekend, all... --Patrick :o)

22 years, 2 months

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Memory

by wilconsys＠terra.com.br

Dear John I?m try to find information on DEC memory M7551 5017547-01-D1-P2. Do you have it. If so please can you provide me a copy? Many thanks Wilson Barbosa A Brazilian user of OLD lsi-11/73. Thanks

22 years, 2 months

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A cable! A cable!

by vcf＠siconic.com

My empire for a cable! I need a male DC-37 to female DC-37. Blast you, IOmega! -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org [ Old computing resources for business || Buy/Sell/Trade Vintage Computers ] [ and academia at www.VintageTech.com || at http://marketplace.vintage.org ]

22 years, 2 months

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tu58 - reading off end of reel?

by brad＠heeltoe.com

Anyone seen a TU58 read off the end of the reel? I replaced the capstan rollers in my TU58 today and tried to boot an VAX 730. It buzzed in reverse for about 5 seconds and then stopped. So naturally I tried again. And again. And again. (hey, if one aspirin is good, then 15 must be *really* good :-) Needless to say, it eventually read past EOF and the tape came off the takeup reel. Heh. There seems to be no EOT detection on these little drives. My guess is something is bad in my TU58 or it's not reading the tape properly (no doubt it can read backwards and is looking for some sort of block marker - yes?) Any hints? I've never booted a 730 before. (long ago I booted a 750 many times but I don't recall how it went - it "just worked" :-) And well, 780's - that was much more fun with all that clicking of the floppy drive :-) -brad

22 years, 2 months

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S-100 Plug

by MTPro＠aol.com

Does anyone have a plug for sale for this S-100 system, please see: http://members.aol.com/mtpro/plug.jpg Thanks, David, classiccomputing.com

22 years, 2 months

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Wire Wrapper needed for PDP-7

by aek＠spies.com

I think it's a bit presumptuous to say that it would be impossible to re-wire a PDP-7, especially since someone or something (was it done in an automated fashion at the factory?) had to do it to begin with. -- I'm in a betting mood... I will wager $1000 USD that this machine won't be operational (running all existing diagnostics or at least the CPU/memory/DECtape tests) by this time next year. FWIW the wire wrap bit and unwrapper is larger than the std #28/#30 since the pins on first generation flip chips were rectangular.

22 years, 2 months

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DEC RL02 carts on eBay

by jpl15＠panix.com

Says '10 available' - these are RL02-DCs and the one in the picture has a white shock-watch... http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2786753916 starting bid $3.00 - each, I assume. Cheers John

22 years, 2 months

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Interesting NY Times story...

by Lee.Davison＠merlincommunications.com

> Stuff today is so inaccessible from a retroist point of view. > The cellular networks 50-75 years from now probably won't support > what we use today, and unless cellular towers will be cheap, > abundant, and easy to store in our garage, we probably won't be > setting up our own networks to see how far we can call for fun. Setting up a celular base station while not trivial is not impossible. The hardest part is the RF Tx and Rx sections, of which you need at least two if you want to place calls and three if you want to place a call to another phone on the same base. 50 to 75 years from now the cell phone collectors should be able to make their own base stations and route calls to other like minded people via their ever-on broadband network connections. Cheers, Lee. ________________________________________________________________________ This e-mail has been scanned for all viruses by Star Internet. The service is powered by MessageLabs. For more information on a proactive anti-virus service working around the clock, around the globe, visit: http://www.star.net.uk ________________________________________________________________________

22 years, 2 months

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Old Amiga game... "Portal"?

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

In a message dated 2/15/2004 12:56:48 PM Eastern Standard Time, vcf(a)siconic.com writes: Gawd damn dave! Will you please use a quoting system that makes it seem like you are actually replying to an e-mail message and not just adding to it? Look at your message below. Can you tell right off where Ethan's message ends and yours begins? I surely can't. This is complete lameness. This is not the first complaint lobbed your way. Are you listening? Better yet, I'll postpone any futher posts indefinately.

22 years, 2 months

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Xerox Monitor

by marvin＠rain.org

I just ran across this Xerox monitor, and don't recognize it. Is this anything I should keep? http://www.rain.org/~marvin/xerox.jpg

22 years, 2 months

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here's a beautiful HP rack

by jwest＠classiccmp.org

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2788085365&category=1247 and if anyone likes that one, I have several I'd like to find homes for. Jay West

22 years, 2 months

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Old Amiga game... "Portal"?

by dickset＠amanda.spole.gov

Long ago, before I even had a hard drive on my A1000, I had a game for the Amiga that I think was called "Portal". It was more of an interactive story where you played the part of an astronaut returning to a deserted Earth. I have been googling, etc., and can't find it on any game lists. Given that AFAIK, it runs under AmigaDOS 1.1 and probably doesn't have a hard-disk- installable version, I'm sure all of these newcomers to the Amiga scene have never heard of it. So... does this ring any bells with anyone? Do I have the title right? -ethan -- Ethan Dicks, A-130-S Current South Pole Weather at 15-Feb-2004 11:50 Z South Pole Station PSC 468 Box 400 Temp -50.9 F (-46.1 C) Windchill -80.2 F (-62.3 C) APO AP 96598 Wind 7.8 kts Grid 065 Barometer 689.9 mb (10254. ft) Ethan.Dicks(a)amanda.spole.gov http://penguincentral.com/penguincentral.html

22 years, 2 months

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HP 8" Drive eBay 2 hours left

by jpl15＠panix.com

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=167&item=2786529895 $50 min bid - from Hawaii Cheers John

22 years, 2 months

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Help with RT-11 V02B

by jhfinexgs2＠compsys.to

I have found two RX01 images for V02B of RT-11. But I would prefer to have the files on an RK05 image. Thus, I copied all of the files to an RK05 image after which I used E11 to BOOT the RX01 image (I tried to "BOOT RX0" using SIMH, but I was not successful, although "BOOT RK0" was successful under both SIMH and E11): For those of you who don't remember, the original PIP program handled all of what are now (DIR, PIP, DUP). I am able to BOOT DX0 under E11 and: .R PIP *DX0:/L *RK0:/L and see a directory listing of the files on both devices, so E11 and the code must be working OK. I am also able to take an RK05 image of a V02C RT-11 distribution and BOOT the RK05, so the boot program in E11 is also correct (and works on SIMH as well). HOWEVER!!!!!!!!!!!!! After I "BOOT DX0" and: .R PIP *RK0:*=RK0:RKMNSJ.SYS/U Then back to E11 and "BOOT RK0" It does not work! But if I "BOOT DX0" again and: .R PIP *RK0:*=RK0:MONITR.SYS/U and repeat, then I am able to "BOOT RK0", but I end up on DX0, which is what I would expect since under V02B, the file MONITR.SYS is really DXMNSJ.SYS and has all the stuff to boot DX0 which it does do! So what might be wrong? Any Ideas? In addition, when I: .R PIP *DX0:*=DX0:DXMNFB.SYS/U and then go back to E11 and "BOOT DX0", the expected boot of DXMNFB.SYS also does not work. Maybe I am using the wrong switches for V02B of RT-11 or the files DXMNFB.SYS and RKMNSJ.SYS are corrupted. Note that I am not really concerned with using V02B of RT-11, but I wish to make up a CD containing as many versions of RT-11, including V05.03 and prior, as are available. So while I have two RX01 images for V02B of RT-11, I would also like to have a bootable RK05 image of V02B as well. Sincerely yours, Jerome Fine -- If you attempted to send a reply and the original e-mail address has been discontinued due a high volume of junk e-mail, then the semi-permanent e-mail address can be obtained by replacing the four characters preceding the 'at' with the four digits of the current year.

22 years, 2 months

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cleaning a TU58 tape head - is alcohol ok?

by brad＠heeltoe.com

Does anyone know if it's ok to clean a TU58 tape head with alcohol? (or, perhaps, does working on a tu58 lead one to drink? :-) -brad

22 years, 2 months

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OT: another reason to not like microsloth - caution, may contain rant.

by witchy＠binarydinosaurs.co.uk

In other news I've just managed to delete my entire classiccmp folder from Outlook, which is nice. All 600-odd messages of stuff. I installed Office 2003 'cos I'm unofficial IT support for Mrs Witchy's school, and the edu version allows 3 home installs. Thing is, because the new Outlook is obviously a complete rewrite of the previous version the default behaviour of folder selecting has changed, only they don't tell you that. In Outlook 2000 when you selected a folder the first message was automatically selected, so if it was one you weren't interested in you could just hit delete and it would be gone, or you could up'n'down arrow to select messages. (Yes, I shift-delete so I don't have to keep emptying 'deleted items'). You could TAB and CTRL-TAB round the windows perfectly happily and whichever folder you tabbed or arrowed onto would be displayed. In Outlook 2003 you can't just TAB round the windows any more. Oh no. You have to TAB and space-to-select just like a web browser. If you select a folder then you've *just selected the folder*, so deleting will delete the folder and it's contents with no warning other than 'are you sure you want to delete the selected item'. Bastards. And before anyone says 'backup' yes I probably should. But since I've had the same outlook file with pretty much no disasters since 1996 why should I start now. More to the point, why should the behaviour of Outlook change with no warning.... And another thing - I have a rule set that all messages from classiccmp go into said folder, and since the deletion I've recreated the folder amidst much swearing. A message has just arrived and a box has popped up saying 'can't move to the classiccmp folder' when it quite clearly can 'cos the fucking folder is there! Gah! -- Adrian/Witchy Owner & Webmaster, Binary Dinosaurs www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk - possibly the UK's biggest online computer museum www.snakebiteandblack.co.uk - ex-monthly gothic shenanigans :o(

22 years, 2 months

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OCR of 644 TIFF files?

by brad＠heeltoe.com

Hi, If you had, say, 644 TIFF files, containing black and white scanned text >from a patent application. And say, you wanted to turn that back into a text file, what would you do? The images contain code listings. Is a commercial OCR program the way to go? Any suggestions? Is there any freely-available OCR which would be up to the task? (it's the Symbolics 3600 patent) If it was 64 pages I'd type it in. But 644... :-) -brad

22 years, 2 months

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Things for sale on Vintage Computer Marketplace

by MTPro＠aol.com

In reference to some items I mentioned for sale recently; the items that I haven't sold directly are now on http://marketplace.vintage.org/. The most recent nine postings are all from me. I would appreciate anyone taking a look. I am motivated to sell these and some other items, reasonable offers are welcomed. Thank you, David Greelish, classiccomputing.com

22 years, 2 months

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Orlando Hamfest finds, Finally day.

by technobug＠comcast.net

"Joe R." <rigdonj(a)cfl.rr.com> at Sun, 15 Feb 2004 12:18:01 -0500 bragged: [hack...] > NuBus prototypiong board made by Apple. This one has two ROMs and a > 68000 installed at the factory. Anybody know what the story is on that? You found yourself a Macintosh coprocessor board. They developed a RT/OS called A/ROSE (and the extension A/ROSE that no one knew what to do with...) to go with it. <http://www.mactech.com/articles/develop/issue_04/coprocessor.html> has a good write-up on the beast. [...] > Drum roll please. Taa Da! > National Semiconductor Pacer SBC Another monument to Nationals propensity to shoot themselves in the foot. I was running a DG Nova 1200 at the time this POS came out and was one of the first to stand in line to get the micro version of the 1200, And then only tot find that they split the Program Register into two 8-bit registers thereby making it a paged machine and rendering the thing useless. And then there's the static registers in the 32000 series... National had the chance to do right in many cases, but always got it wrong. AHHHHHHH!!!!! Enough of my rant. Claude

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Old Amiga game... "Portal"?

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

In a message dated 2/15/2004 6:55:57 AM Eastern Standard Time, dickset(a)amanda.spole.gov writes: Long ago, before I even had a hard drive on my A1000, I had a game for the Amiga that I think was called "Portal". It was more of an interactive story where you played the part of an astronaut returning to a deserted Earth. I have been googling, etc., and can't find it on any game lists. Given that AFAIK, it runs under AmigaDOS 1.1 and probably doesn't have a hard-disk- installable version, I'm sure all of these newcomers to the Amiga scene have never heard of it. So... does this ring any bells with anyone? Do I have the title right? heh, I remember that game and have it for my apple //e. Something about finding out where everyone went and you interact with some computer system that will help you find out what happened. -- I am not willing to give up my liberties for the appearance of 'security'

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Orlando Hamfest finds, Finally day.

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

Just got back from the last (1/2) day of the hamfest. Todays haul; Two boxs of HP and Tektronix manuals. A pile of IBM RS/6000 docs A studio grade RGB monitor (hopefully to replace SEVERAL of the Sun, HP and SGI RGB monitors that I current have) A Compaq Portable III A HP 214A Pulse generator (an oldie but it will pulse 100V into 50Ohms and none of the new stuff will do that) A Sinclair ZX-61 with accessories (Glen, are you listening?) An IBM PS/2 model 8525 (Kelvin?) A pouch with a HP Logic Probe, Currrent Probe, Chip Clip and Logic Pulser. Joe PS the LD Xpro programmer has the plug in for the 44 pin PLCC 80x51 type devices. Two days down and one to go. Here's the haul so far" HP 9845B (appears to be loaded) HP 1000 computer (yes, another one!) HP 1351 Graphics Generator (vector graphics for the HP 1000!) HP 3468 DMM with HP-IL interface Three large boxs of early data books Original early IBM PC. Appears to be untampered with. Some NEC APC III manuals. Passed up several more boxfuls of these. Anybody need them? NuBus prototypiong board made by Apple. This one has two ROMs and a 68000 installed at the factory. Anybody know what the story is on that? P133 notebook computer with Network Stumbler installed (this should be fun!) A like new Logical Devices XPro EPROM programmer with the PLCC plugins. An IR black body source with controller Drum roll please. Taa Da! National Semiconductor Pacer SBC Passed up a Sparc notebook computer but got a lead on some Apple Lisa parts. Joe

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**********Re: Straight 8 -- front panel repair

by aek＠spies.com

> I believe all they need is a good sample from which to shoot a master. -- I have a high resolution scan of the panel If someone were to do repros, I'd suggest using polycarb instead of glass The good thing is, unlike later machines, it is just a rectangle w/o cutouts

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Straight 8 -- front panel repair

by bfranchuk＠jetnet.ab.ca

McCollum, Peter wrote: > Hi all, > Just joined up. > I have a straight-8 in the garage (not working, but repairable I think) with an ASR-33. No other perpherals. > Also have an 8-E (almost working I think). It has several option/IO cards in it, but no actual perpherals. > > I started with DEC in 1981, in a Test Engineering group for Storage. > > Here's my first question: > What should I do about the glass on the straight-8 front panel? The paint markings are peeling off. > Is there a recommended way to preserve it? > Or, has anyone made a graphic template that can be used to print a new panel, and put it behind a piece of plain glass? > > Regards, > Pete You need to get in touch with this guy about getting your straight 8 working. His 8 has suffered major damage and needs major parts like a core memory and backplane and front panel. See this web site for details. http://nisler.org/crash/ ** warning -- not for the faint hearted ** I am also posting this to classic computers since a lot of people have 8's there. A replacement front panel and other parts may be a good group effort for the people that still have straight 8's. Ben.

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Orlando Hamfest finds

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

Two days down and one to go. Here's the haul so far" HP 9845B (appears to be loaded) HP 1000 computer (yes, another one!) HP 1351 Graphics Generator (vector graphics for the HP 1000!) HP 3468 DMM with HP-IL interface Three large boxs of early data books Original early IBM PC. Appears to be untampered with. Some NEC APC III manuals. Passed up several more boxfuls of these. Anybody need them? NuBus prototypiong board made by Apple. This one has two ROMs and a 68000 installed at the factory. Anybody know what the story is on that? P133 notebook computer with Network Stumbler installed (this should be fun!) A like new Logical Devices XPro EPROM programmer with the PLCC plugins. An IR black body source with controller Drum roll please. Taa Da! National Semiconductor Pacer SBC Passed up a Sparc notebook computer but got a lead on some Apple Lisa parts. Joe

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Classic Computing in LA

by rcini＠optonline.net

John: My company's office is on South Lake at the corner of Del Mar. I don't have a map handy but I think that it's a softball's throw from CalTech. Where in Old Town is Empire Electronics? Usually I walk to Old Town from my hotel to kill some time. Rich ----- Original Message ----- From: dundas(a)caltech.edu Date: Saturday, February 14, 2004 1:31 am Subject: Re: Classic Computing in LA > Well I work at Caltech (Pasadena) and live in a city immediately > adjacent and > I'm not aware of any good "classic computing" spots. Wish I did. > > My favorite electronics spots are Dow (now Mavac) and C&H, both on > Colorado > Blvd. Tim Shoppa turned me on to Empire Electronics in Old Town > Pasadena. > That's about it. > > Good luck, > > John > > > I'm going to Los Angeles, CA for a few days next week on > business. Are there > > any good spots to check out for classic computing / electronics > gear? I'll > > probably be in the Pasadena area. Last time I went I was in > Ceritos, and all > > the cool electronics surplus places I've heard of were closed. I > also have > > the luxury of several equipment boxes that will be shipped along > with me and > > returned on my way back :) > > > > > > > > > > > >

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HP find + VME

by Lee.Davison＠merlincommunications.com

Recently rescued .. HP 9000/300 - 68010 CPU, 1MB RAM + video (so it says) HP 9153A - 2 of, floppy + HD (probably 10MB) HP 35731A - 12" 512x400 monochrome monitor (some burn) HP 46021A - keyboard HP 46083A - HP-HIL rotary control HP 46084A - HP-HIL ID module One of the 9153A drives is alleged to contain the software to dribe a gas chromatograph (written in PASCAL) the other is alleged to contain the PASCAL compiller environment. Not tested as yet. Also .. MEM/340 - 4MB multibus II(?) memory card And bought recently .. Heurikon M220 - 5 of, VME, 68020/68881, 4MB DRAM, SCSI, 2 x SERIAL Matrox MMG640 - 2 of, VME, graphics, ?? I need info for the Matrox and Heurikon boards, and possibly ROM images, and I could use a VME backplane or two (or other VME cards such as ethernet) so the HP stuff and the multibus card are available for swap/sale. I can probably deliver/collect within the UK. Cheers Lee. ________________________________________________________________________ This e-mail has been scanned for all viruses by Star Internet. The service is powered by MessageLabs. For more information on a proactive anti-virus service working around the clock, around the globe, visit: http://www.star.net.uk ________________________________________________________________________

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RLL vs. MFM

by uban＠ubanproductions.com

A friend wants to know if he can use an ST238R RLL drive with am MFM controller. It has been to long for me to remember the answer to that question, so I'll let the knowing people of this list enter your votes. --tnx --tom

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PerSci manual wanted (classiccomp)

by herbjohnson＠comcast.net

Saw your msg below while searching the Web about Persci drives. I have a 277 manual, courtesty of Cromemco, in my inventory. I normally sell copies by the page but I would trade for copies of some of your manuals. Confirm you are still interested and we can work the details. I have the Persci 277, 299, (8-inch) manuals; what is the 207 and 272? Herb Johnson Your msg, late in 2003: My newly-acquired Cromemco System 3 came with lots of disks, spare boards, manuals, licences, and a terminal, but only one dual PerSci S299 floppy drive, which needs some attention (it seeks but returns read errors). Anyone got a manual I can download, borrow or trade? I have two sets of manuals (2 of each of the "Product Specification" and "Logic and Schematic Diagram") for the 270/272/277 drives, several spare ADM-5 manuals, and some spare Cromemco FDC manuals. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York -- Herbert R. Johnson voice 609-771-1503, New Jersey USA <a href="http://njcc.com/~hjohnson"> link to my web site</a> <a href="http://retrotechnology.com/herbs_stuff"> mirror of web site</a> email address: hjohnson AAT njcc DOTT com (if mail bounces, try herbjohnson ATT comcast DOTT net) good used Mac, SGI, 8-inch floppy drives S-100 IMSAI Altair computers, , docs, by "Dr. S-100"

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Classic Computing in LA

by toresbe＠ifi.uio.no

>Make sure you post your successes/feedback when you get back. I'm going to >Pasadena in mid-March. Yeah, I'd love to see that too, I might be going there some time in the future.

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