Hi Gang
I'm looking for PDF files or other images of various hard copy manuals (4 x 6) that describes the contents, organization, and updating of the various PDP Microfiche Libraries.
Also, if there is a document that describes the entirety of the Microfiche libraries, or websites with stories about DEC Microfiche, that would be very helpful.
I'm organizing a whole boatload of these Fiche sets right now, and any tidbits of information would be really nice.
Thanks!
Cynde Moya, MLIS
Archives Cataloguer
Vulcan Inc.
www.vulcan.com
cyndem(a)vulcan.com
Office Tel. 206-223-4901
Mobile Tel. 206.369.3205
Fax. 206-223-4207
Thanks to all those who provided insight in the "Smoke on the Horizon"
thread... You may be happy to hear that the machine is running now: all the
blown tantalums are replaced, as well as the regulators that may have
suffered due to untimely capacitive departures. I took warnings about the
-5V supplies to heart and replaced all the tantala (plural of tantalum?)
around the negative supplies, largely because the -5V regulators are powered
>from the -16V unregulated line, and the worst failures happened on caps
across the +16V line.
Now that the smoke has cleared, I've been RAMTESTing the 64K HRAM card,
and am a little distressed to note failures. These usually occur when the
program is run from fresh-from-startup RAM: once RAMTEST (3 or 5) has run
through a cycle (or bombed due to an error), subsequent tests run for hours
with no further problems. The failures don't seem to be bit-specific, but
they've occurred mostly in the highest 16K (particularly the top 8K) of
address space.
Do I need to be concerned about this? Anyone know if the RAMTEST program
trips up on previously-unaccessed space? Or do the RAMs need a little
time/exercise to get to an internal temperature where they are stabler?
These are 16Kx1 AMD devices (circa 1982), and my debug work in the past has
been limited to SRAMs or higher-density DRAMs (I know, I know: I just
haven't lived until I've debugged core).
Regards,
Bob
I own an early 11/20, sn300, also of the PDP-11 only markings, like the unit
in question. My front panel PCB is date stamped 1970, and it is the led
type. I also have original DEC schematics that show first bulbs, and then a
revision to allow bulbs or LEDs. I also have some other front panel PCBs
with bulbs.
My best guess would be that they did a revision for LED's, and then perhaps
dropped them due to cost or availability. So it appears that LEDs were at
least installed on some 11/20s.
My LED unit does not have the front panel drilled out, but I suppose they
may have done that for one of the early proto types while they were trying
different designs.
My 11/20 was supposed to have been gotten from the dec Mill factory in Mass,
perhaps the early LED units were never shipped out. So it is likely that
the 11/20 for sale is for real.
Chad Martin
I would like to make it clear that the seller of the PDP-11 (the 11/20 marked 11) listed on VCM is
as far as I know a perfectly honest gentlemen and was not trying to be deceptive about the condition
of the machine he is selling. Indeed, the pictures are up in the listing for all to see. I take issue
with the description of the front panel as "very nice" if in fact it has been modified by a user, but
it is certainly a subjective matter and it appears that the seller was acting in good faith and did not
realize that his machine was unusual in this respect. He's apparently been busy with multiple
obligations, including arranging the shipment of some other much larger machines, and just hasn't
had time to deal with the 11/20. He got back to me in email yesterday, explained the situation,
and was distressed at the implication that he had been deceptive. I had him pegged as an
Ebay-style "Altairz" mercenary who didn't really know what he was selling but was holding
out for a windfall, and I my tone reflected that. I believe that was a mistake, and that he is a serious
collector as he claimed to be in his mail. A bit of Googling turned up several archival messages
that indicated prior participation in the classic computing community.
In the interests of full disclosure, I should also say that I haven't entirely lost interest in the machine
myself, and anyone who is interested should look for themselves and draw their own conclusions
about its value.
Bill Maddox
The 5945C has an edge
connector , much like a print card. Dont know how to put it more precisely
--
A 5945C is the basic QIC-36 interface, 5945L is QIC-02
www.bitsavers.org/pdf/archive/ScorpionProdDescr.pdf
I have a 2-foot stack of old afrts (Armed Forces Radio
and Television Service) LP records from the 70's.
They are used, but in good condition.
They have the offficial afrts label with records
contents listed.
What should I do with them? (be nice)
Examples:
Kris Kristofferson
David Cassidy
Barbara Streisand
Roy Clark
Sweet
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Dawn, featuring Tony Orlando
John Lenon, Yoko Ono
Michael Jackson
Rick Springfield
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If one codes a set of "micro" instructions in the Alter-Skip-Group as
follows:
LBL1 CLE,SEZ CLear E, Skip if E Zero
Instruction 002140, would not one expect this to always skip the next
instruction??? I would think E has been cleared, so the Skip if E Zero
becomes true.
Jay West
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If one codes a set of "micro" instructions in the Alter-Skip-Group as
follows:
LBL1 CLE,SEZ CLear E, Skip if E Zero
Instruction 002140, would not one expect this to always skip the next
instruction??? I would think E has been cleared, so the Skip if E Zero
becomes true.
Jay West
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>From: "Vintage Computer Festival" <vcf(a)siconic.com>
>
>On Thu, 26 Feb 2004, Nico de Jong wrote:
>
>> I find that hard to believe. The SCSI Archive drives I know, are all
>> equipped with connectors as used on flatcables. The 5945C has an edge
>> connector , much like a print card. Dont know how to put it more precisely
>
>Those are generally refered to as IDC connectors. I wish I knew what IDC
>stood for. I'm not willing to take a guess right now, though I think I am
>close.
insulation displacement connector
Dwight
>
>I've seen Archive drives equipped with either IDC or edge-type connectors,
>and the model number usually indicates which type of connection it has.
>For instance, an Archive 2150S is SCSI with a 50 pin IDC, whereas an
>Archive 2150L has, I believe, an edge connector
>
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Paul Koning <pkoning(a)equallogic.com> wrote:
> Google is not much help, it doesn't look like he's done anything since
> Advanced Modular Solutions went under. But cryosuspension seems very
> un-Ken-like.
Un-Ken-like? Well, at Modular he was in effect saying that he didn't want to
just retire and leave the stage, he wanted to keep doing what he loves, making
computers. If he chooses (or already chose, don't know if he is still alive or
not) to be buried/cremated when his time is up, then that's it. But if he opts
for cryosuspension instead, then he'll be revived some time later and will be
able to make computers again, this time for eternity, like a god of computing on
Mt. Olympus, eating ambrosia, drinking nectar, enjoying the goddesses (so
eternal life and eternal youth are never boring) and making VAXen.
MS
Paul Koning <pkoning(a)equallogic.com> wrote:
> Or his bad habit of personally redesigning product details
> at the very last moment. The MMJ connector is an example of the
> latter problem;
MMJ rocks!
BTW, is Ken still alive? Someone else mentioned on this list some time ago that
he is in cryosuspension at Alcor.
MS
The pin spacing is 0.156 inch.
You can get the Molex parts at Digi Key. www.digikey.com
You can look up all the data sheets using the parts numbers at
www.molex.com.
The 10 pin right angle connector is Molex part 09-52-3101, Digi Key part
WM3307-ND. They cost $1.57.
The polarizing key is Molex part15-04-0219, Digi Key WM2402-ND. They cost
0.25.
The round pin male header is the Molex 3192 series. The 10 pin unit is Molex
part 26-20-2101. I have not found a good source, Digi-Key only carries the
square pins. The square pin has more contact area (a flat side instead of a
point.) The increased friction makes it more difficult to plug and unplug
boards.
I used the AMP part to build a motherboard (fartherboard?) The 12 pin
version is cheaper then the 10 pin version. I bought 12 pin parts and used a
utility knife to trim them.
10 Pin MTA 0.156 Header Assembly Straight Round Tin
Amp # 1-640384-0
Digi-Key# A24154-ND Price $1.37
12 Pin MTA 0.156 Header Assembly Straight Round Tin
Amp # 1-640384-2
Digi-Key# A26174-ND Price $0.93
Michael Holley
www.swtpc.com/mholley
Hi,
Does anyone have/collect any computerized point-of-sale systems?
I am specifically interested in 3 old systems from Tranti Systems Incorporated (now defunct, purchased by GEAC sometime in the mid 90s), the System 29, System 105, and System 2100.
The first 2 where proprietary hardware, the last was PC-based. If anyone has any leads on any info, please let me know.
dc
Does someone know off the top of his head what the pin spacing is on the
SS-50 and SS-30 buses? Better still, Molex or other manufacturer's part
numbers for acceptable replacements (10-pin male and female)?
Thanks! --Patrick
Oh, I'm probably going to regret weighing in on this but: ebay proxy
bidding is MUCH better than a sealed bid auction because if you win,
you only end up paying one increment more than the second highest
bidder (usually a buck or two). In a true sealed bid auction, you pay
whatever you bid, which might be a lot more than the second highest
bid. So, the ebay model almost always gives you a better deal than a
sealed bid, and never a worse deal.
What most people don't like about sniping is the emotional letdown
they get when their bid sits at the minimum for a week, and then
their maximum gets exceeded at the last second. I have to admit, I've
ended up feeling cheated myself, as if I actually deserved to get a
PDP-8 for $10. But all they've cheated me out of is the opportunity
re-think my maximum bid after that find out that someone else may be
interested.
What would make eBay much more interesting (and more expensive for
buyers) would be the going-going-gone approach used by live auctions,
and the old onsale.com site. Real auctions stay open until bidding
activity has ceased for a period of time. Onsale kept auctions open
past the posted closing time until 10 minutes had passed since the
last bid. This made sniping irrelevant, but in exchange you could get
a frenzy of emotional incremental end-stage bidding.
Brian
Brad Parker <brad(a)heeltoe.com> wrote:
> If it helps, I made a linux version of the tu58 emulator. No big deal,
> just the standard "sgtty to termios" conversion and some header file
> changes.
Where can I get the original sgtty version for those who prefer sgtty to
termios? What OS is it for?
(I don't currently have a need for TU58 emulator, but hearing talk about
changing sgtty to termios just made me jump up and scream "I want sgtty!!!")
MS
It's 80's vintage, analog XY pen plotter, there's a mylar low-compliance
drive belt, mine apparently stretched then dove into the drive gear,
ruining it beyond all repair.
Does anyone know where to get replacement parts? I have the old belt
(pieces) so I can get dimensions. (It's about 3mm wide, 2" diam,
yellowish thin mylar).
Pens are enough trouble to find, I fear for the machines life for lack
of drive belt.
(I tried fabricating replacements, it's a tight application; since it's
a servo closed-loop, I think grooving it for an O-ring will make it
hunt.)
Joe,
I found an old webpage,
http://www.classiccmp.org/pipermail/cctech/2003-June/015876.html, that
had one of your postings on it where you discussed reading old HP disks.
I'm looking for a utility which possibly someone has written that will
allow me to read and access files from those old HP "LIF" and "HFS"
disks using a present day PC. Do you know if there are any sources of
such a utility out there? shareware, freeware, commercial? Anything you
might have heard of?
Any info you may have or general comments are appreciated.
Thanks.
Ed Marchese
Clifton, NJ
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Phil wrote:
>I wouldn't mind a copy of Manx Aztec C. ISTR there
>was a 6502 cross-compiler version made - ran on an
>IBM PC, produced 6502 code. Never managed to find
>a copy, though. Same goes for the "compile on a PC,
>run on a PC" version.
I have three versions: Apple II native compiler, MS-DOS
cross-compiler for Apple II/6502, and MS-DOS compiler
for 8086 (v3.2?). I have scanned the docs for the 6502
compilers and I can do so for the 8086 manual. CD-R?
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All the Macs are gone.
Thank you all!
-Ken V.
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Hello-
I have the following available at no cost, you just have to pick it up.
They are located at my home in Glenview, IL. I thought I'd offer them here
before I throw them out.....
1 Power Macintosh 9500/132
1 Power Macintosh 9500/120
1 Power Macintosh 9500/180MP
1 Power Macintosh 5400/180 (This one has a built-in monitor)
They are all in perfect working order, I just don't have the room for them
anymore.
Just contact me off list if you are interested.
-Ken V.
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Dear Sir,
On the internet we found your offer for Philips LDB4401 cassettes " certified digital mini-cassettes"
We desperately need them for a CNC machine. Could you tell us whether you still have app.25 pieces for us?
Could you give us a price, including shipping to The Netherlands, way of payment, delivery time?
Kindest regards,
Priema BV Hoevelaken
The Netherlands
Chris Bonninga
Priema BV Hoevelaken
The Netherlands
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Postal address:
P.O.Box 33
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Tel. +31 - 33 - 253 68 04
Tel. direct +31 - 6 -150 16 443
E-mail: cbonninga(a)priemabv.nl
hi,
i have available for sale several hundred USED cat5 keystone jacks and
cable. the jack is on one end and the other end is bare. the minimum
length is around 35 ft. please email if interested. thanx.
bill
On Wed, 25 Feb 2004 Paul Williams <paul(a)frixxon.co.uk> wrote:
> Pete Turnbull wrote:
> > Several weeks ago the subject of MSCP docs came up. I think there may
> > be a scanned copy of AA-L619A-TK (MSCP Basic Disk Functions Manual) out
> > there somewhere, though I can't find it
>
> It was available at www.pdp11.nl, though that site is still down.
> Neither of the other two are online, according to Manx.
I put it at ftp://ftp.update.uu.se/pub/pdp11/doc a while ago, and it's
still there.
> > I have all three. Anyone in the UK or Netherlands want to scan them?
> > The three documents are respectively 170pp, 46pp, and 58pp.
>
> I can scan the other two. Did someone scan the 4FDC manual for you? I
> offered, in private email, but received no response.
I could probably scan them too, but I just have a hand-fed scanner.
I might take a shot at OCRing the MSCP doc instead, unless someone beats
me to it. I'm half-busy right now...
Johnny
Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
|| on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt(a)update.uu.se || Reading murder books
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
This is what I have and will be selling in the near future. Two sol-20's both working perfectly in original condition. One is fully loaded with everything you could get from the factory(64k, networking board, ect). The other has either 4k or 16k (?) it acted as the others slave and does not have all the boards. Both have original monitors. I have all the documentation from the manuals to copy's of receipts, and original software (cp/m, cbasic). A micropolis 1054 5 inch 4 stack of drives which I still need to test just to be sure it still works( I cannot even find a reference to them on the online). And one decwriter with the form feed option and a built in keyboard. So you could network all this stuff and have three separate inputs (it is pretty cool). I have not decided how to auction them off yet (as a collection or individually). Any who that's what I got so tell me what you think if any one wants a preemptive bid let me know.
thanks
nIcK
For the DIGITAL community, I still scan documents as long as it is
loose sheets or it is OK to remove the staples.
I do not scan books, that's too time consuming.
FYI, I use the scan-to-file option of the Oc? 3165 printer/copier.
Any size up to A3/Ledger (11"x 17") is easy, and even mixed sets,
for example Letter-sized with fold-outs for schematics are OK.
That takes a bit more time to prevent the fold-out to be scaled to
Letter size (a few manual actions required).
The result is a PDF file readable by Acrobat Reader, but the files
are *BIG*, actually they are TIFF's with "PDF jacket".
I once did a test on a *text-only* document of 25 pages. The PDF
was 6.8 Mbytes, and after going through the Distiller it was just
over 650 kbytes ... but I noticed some loss of information here
and there. So, reliability is not a full 100%. I stay with the
big files knowing not to loose any information.
BTW the resolution of the scanner is 600 dpi.
For a sample of the scan quality see the scans on mainecoon ...
Please e-mail first if you want me to do some scanning.
I offer the service free as long as it is DIGITAL, preferably
PDP-11 related. You pay the postal cost for sending the doc to me,
and the postal cost if you want them back. The resulting scan files
are put on a CD-ROM and I ask US $2 for a CD-ROM (up to 650 Mb).
I hope that is a reasonable fee ...
- Henk.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Pete Turnbull [mailto:pete@dunnington.u-net.com]
> Sent: dinsdag 24 februari 2004 12:18
> To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
> Subject: MSCP protocol docs
>
>
> Several weeks ago the subject of MSCP docs came up. I think there may
> be a scanned copy of AA-L619A-TK (MSCP Basic Disk Functions
> Manual) out
> there somewhere, though I can't find it, but not, AFAIK, AA-L620A-TK
> (Storage Systems Diagnostics and Utility Protocol) and AA-L621A-TK
> (Storage System Unibus Port Description). These are the three
> components of the UDA50 Progammer's Kit, QP-905-GZ (which, despite the
> name, isn't really UDA50-specific)
>
> I have all three. Anyone in the UK or Netherlands want to scan them?
> The three documents are respectively 170pp, 46pp, and 58pp.
>
> --
> Pete Peter Turnbull
> Network Manager
> University of York
I have had good results using the report function on eBay. I have reported
several frauds (some are quite blatant) and usually the sale is cancelled in a
day or two.
The person then gets a warning mail not to do such a thing. Three such
warnings will get someone suspended from eBay. If it is obvious fraud their name
will be suspended immediatly.
Now it is fairly difficult to prove a shill, and without proof eBay generally
won't do anything. Coincidence is not proof.
If the zero feedback bidder shows up on other sales of the original seller it
may be suspicious. If he only shows up on the original sellers sales that is
very suspicious. Is he registered in the same town? Check both's buyer and
seller's ebay information.
In doing that ebay sends an email to you and the person you are verifying so
it is kind of a notice if it is a shill.
Do bidding and selling searches on both the bidders name and the original
sellers name. See if there are any more connections.
Make sure if you really want the item to make note of the sellers email when
you check the ebay records. If eBay does cancel them there will be no
accessable records of their offerings.
Hello
I have a friend that has an old Machine tool manufactured circa 1978.
It apparently uses DC-100 tapes. He has one copy of the operating
system tape, that he calls a "Parameter" tape. He'd like to make a
copy. I need a source for these old DC-100 tapes.
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I remember somebody posting about a source for qbus proto boards, but I
can't seem to find it.
Anybody remember the post or the link to the source?
-chuck
On Tue, 24 Feb 2004, Kevin Handy wrote:
> Vintage Computer Festival wrote:
>
> >The Zortech C++ compiler was one of the very first C++ compilers
developed
> >in the mid- to late-1980s. I'm looking for a copy for a friend who's
> >writing a book (and also so the creator of Zortech C++ can have his own
> >copy since he never held onto his own!) Zortech C++ was licensed to
> >Symantec and became their C++ compiler.
> >
> >Does anyone have a copy of Zortech C++?
> How about a copy of Datalight C?
Walter Bright is the author of Zortech C++. In 1982 Walter and I were
evaluating computer languages for developing electrical engineering software
on the IBM PC, VAX VMS and VAX UNIX. We looked a Pascal, Fortran and C. We
selected C, the PC had the Lattice compiler, DEC had just released a C
compiler for VMS and UNIX had the standard.
Walter looked at the C compilers for the PC and said, "I can do better that
that." He got a release from our employer (Data I/O) and spent nights and
weekends writing a functional clone of the 2 pass Lattice compiler. This
enabled him the debug each pass and to be compatible with the Lattice
libraries. I think it took him a year to write the compiler and libraries
for the first release.
Microsoft also liked the Lattice C compiler, the OEMed the software and the
only change was the start-up banner. The OEM deal changed the words "Lattice
C 2.0" to "Microsoft C 3.0" (I forget the exact wording, it was 20 years
ago.) The higher version number made the Microsoft compiler sound better.
The files would pass a binary compare except for those bytes. The first C
compiler Microsoft wrote was version 4.0.
Walter first started selling his compiler as Northwest C, I don't know if he
sold any under that name. He teamed up with someone here in Seattle and
started selling it as Datalight C. That went OK but the distributor in the
UK was selling more then the US. Walter parted with Datalight and formed
Zorland with the UK distributor. Borland did not like the name so they had
to change it to Zortech.
In the late 80s C++ came to be as a pre-processor for the UNIX compiler.
Walter said, "I can do better that that." He wrote the first native C++
compiler for any platform. After about 10 years of work on the compiler he
sold out to Symantec and became an instant millionaire.
Michael Holley
www.swtpc.com/mholley
On Feb 24, 23:25, John Honniball wrote:
> Pete Turnbull wrote:
> > Today I discovered that the fault on drive 0 of my SWTPC twin 8"
drive
> > box is due to a cracked collet -- the 8-fingered black plastic
part,
> > with a ball race in the centre, that holds the floppy disk onto the
> > hub.
>
> I have some spare 8" disk drives here, if that'll help at all. Or if
> anyone else wants 'em? One's a Shugart SA-801, the others I can't
> remember (but I can look them up).
I like the drives I have so I don't really want to replace them, and it
seems silly to cannibalise a good drive to fix a bust one. And I
*definitely* don't have room for more (unfortunately -- I'd like to put
one or two on a PC). But thanks for the offer.
OTOH, I might fit one into my Cromemco. I'll check that tomorrow...
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
University of York
Hi
Try abuse(a)ebay.com
Dwight
>From: "Jay West" <jwest(a)classiccmp.org>
>
>I'm bidding on an item, and I'm pretty sure the seller has another (0
>feedback) account and is bidding up the price. I don't see any spot on ebays
>website where I can raise this issue. Is there someone I can bring this
>issue to there? Anyone have any thoughts on this?
>
>Please reply off-list
>
>Jay
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Today I discovered that the fault on drive 0 of my SWTPC twin 8" drive
box is due to a cracked collet -- the 8-fingered black plastic part,
with a ball race in the centre, that holds the floppy disk onto the
hub. I've had this happen before on an 8" drive, and repaired it by
gluing with Araldite (epoxy), but I'd prefer a better repair. Does
anyone know of a source for new collets, which seem to be the same on
several different makes of 8" drive? The other drive in the pair looks
set to go the same way real soon, as it's got a lot of small cracks in
it.
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Network Manager
University of York
Hello Lee,
Would you consider selling this? I am checking how it is
different from HP PN: 09114-69511. If it is same, I am
interestede in buying it.
Regards
Henry
HP 9121
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Tue Jun 10 10:55:45 2003
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While dumpster diving at the end of a radio rally (what,
doesn't everyone do this?) I found, in with the usual PC
scrap, an HP 9121 dual disk unit.
The unit powers and a small LED flashes five times but
that's as far as I've got because I've not got anything
to plug it into.
I take it I can use DSDD 3.5" disks in this and that with a
General Instrument HPIB card and some hand rolled code I can
try it out. Anyone done this? Any pointers to where to start?
Any online docs for the command set/protocols?
Cheers,
Lee.
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Several weeks ago the subject of MSCP docs came up. I think there may
be a scanned copy of AA-L619A-TK (MSCP Basic Disk Functions Manual) out
there somewhere, though I can't find it, but not, AFAIK, AA-L620A-TK
(Storage Systems Diagnostics and Utility Protocol) and AA-L621A-TK
(Storage System Unibus Port Description). These are the three
components of the UDA50 Progammer's Kit, QP-905-GZ (which, despite the
name, isn't really UDA50-specific)
I have all three. Anyone in the UK or Netherlands want to scan them?
The three documents are respectively 170pp, 46pp, and 58pp.
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
University of York
Paul,
Thanks for your interest in the CCC
I am just coming out of a period of personal crisis - no salary for over
18 months!
Hopefully I will be in a position to put the CCC back on-line in the
near future.
As to the ClassiCcmp, I was kicked off and am unable to resubscribe. My
messages just don't get through. I suspect a spam filter somewhere is
munching my messages. I am forced to read the archived messages :-(
Once again thanks for you interest, I'll try and send a message to cccmp
when the list goes unline.
-- Hans
> Ducking and running as I post this....
>
http://techrepublic.com.com/5208-6230-0.html?forumID=10&threadID=147374&mess
ageID=1579357
Problem, agreed.
<play>
Wasn't it concluded that it took something like 50mA to kill? Soooo... If
we convert our houses and appliances to 30KV/50mA, we can get them to
run, without danger of _death_. I guess the house would then approximate
a plasma dome... And it wouldn't it be difficult to hold a cup of coffee?
</play>
John A.
prior message misfired, note, Not by stray voltage.
On Sun, 22 Feb 2004 11:04:03 +0100, Sebastian Br?ckner
<sebastian.brueckner(a)epost.de> schreibt:
> A few month ago I acquired a VAXstation 3200. It runs runs very nicely
> with a Emulex UC08 SCSI-Controller off a 1GB full-height SCSI-Disk.
>
> There is one QBUS card in the system that I can't identify.
> As far as I know the VAX has been used for measurement data aquisition
> in a physics laboratory.
> The only connector to the outside is for a 40-pin ribbon cable. I got a
> very long (10m I guess) cable with the box so I suppose it is using
> some
> kind of differential data transmission.
> Unfortunately I don't know what was connected to the other end of the
> cable. Probably the card is useless without that second part (maybe a
> A/D-Converter?).
>
> The board occupies all 4 slots and is populated mostly with small ICs
> of
> the 74xxx series and some PALs.
>
> The Label says:
>
> KINETICSYSTEMS
> MODEL D1571
> MODEL 2922-Z1B
>
> I did not find any usable information on he net. Does anyone of you
> know
> what this board does?
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Sebastian
You have the Qbus part (KSC2922) of a KSC2922/3922, Qbus CAMAC
interface. CAMAC (Computer Automated Measurement And Control) is an
instrumentation system extensively used in the nuclear/high energy
area. The other end of the cable that you have connected to a rack in
which various and sundry instrumentation modules could be placed. IIRC
the CAMAC bus was 24 bits and the hardware that you have either packed
the data 24->32 or various other packings. The basic standard is IEEE
583. There are a number of standards covering a serial interface as
well as software APIs.
What you need now is to find a CAMAC bin and the other end of that
interface and you can become a nuclear terrorist ;))
Claude
Oh great Gurus of Obscure Facts:
Does anyone happen to have at their fingertips any FCC ID information about the
Xerox 8000 or 1108 series hardware and the monitors that go with it? I am about
to ship a couple of these babies to Tony Eros (member of this list) and I may
need this info to get the customs people to let them through.
Many thanks in advance,
Bob.
Bob Bramwell 60 Baker Cr. NW | What would happen if they cloned
ProntoLogical Calgary, AB | Schrodinger's Cat?
+1 403/861-8827 T2L 1R4, Canada | - Andrew Spiers, Oxford U.
They were probably built around 1983 or so. As for why the customs care... I
dunno: they just do. Every time I have to ship stuff to the U.S. I have to
provide copies of form FCC 740 (Statement regarding the Importation of Radio
Frequency Devices Capable of causing Harmful Interference) for monitors and
computers. Sometimes (and I'll have to figure out exactly what the
circumstances are) I also need a form FD 2877 (Food & Drug Administration:
Declaraion for Products Subject to Radiation Control Standards).
And you thought Canadian bureaucracy was bad!
Anyway, thanks for the info. I'll fill out the forms accordingly and hope for
the best.
>Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2004 10:21:22 -0500
>From: Paul Koning <pkoning(a)equallogic.com>
>To: bob(a)copenhagen.cuug.ab.ca, cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
>Cc: cctech(a)classiccmp.org
>Subject: Re: FCC IDs for Xerox DandeTigers ...?
>
>>>>>> "Bob" == Bob Bramwell <bob(a)copenhagen.cuug.ab.ca> writes:
>
> Bob> Oh great Gurus of Obscure Facts: Does anyone happen to have at
> Bob> their fingertips any FCC ID information about the Xerox 8000 or
> Bob> 1108 series hardware and the monitors that go with it? I am
> Bob> about to ship a couple of these babies to Tony Eros (member of
> Bob> this list) and I may need this info to get the customs people to
> Bob> let them through.
>
>When were those built? If it was before the early 1980s, there wasn't
>any such thing as an FCC ID. If one was assigned it should be on one
>of the stickers on the box, near the model and serial numbers.
>
>If it's newer than that, you might be able to extract it from an FCC
>database that supposedly exists on-line with this stuff in it, but I
>know no details about that.
>
>Why would customs care?
>
> paul
>
Bob Bramwell 60 Baker Cr. NW | What would happen if they cloned
ProntoLogical Calgary, AB | Schrodinger's Cat?
+1 403/861-8827 T2L 1R4, Canada | - Andrew Spiers, Oxford U.
Interesting concept: get a bunch of people together who all have at least
a 1.3Ghz P-III (or AMD equivalent) laptop with at least 256MB RAM and a
100baseT network connection and hook them all together to try to get onto
the list of the world's 500 fastest supercomputers:
http://www.flashmobcomputing.org/
Maybe I'm behind the times, but I don't think that many people can afford
such a laptop right around now.
Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival
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I have three 5.25 inch floppies that have the labels (copies):
EVEREX EXCEL STREAMING TAPE ST 4061 VER 4.06 EV0-00830-00 MAY 24 1988.
Disk 2 and 3 have similar labels, but are 4062 and 4063. Upon running
the tape program on disk 1, the options for hardware are:
Full Size QIC-36 tape controller board
Full Size cassette tape controller board
Half Size QIC-02 tape controller board
Diskette and QIC-02 board
2/3 Size QIC-36
Disk and QIC-36
Disk and QIC-02
The program does not give model numbers, but shows a graphic of the board
and all the jumpers.
Ya think this software will help you?
Joe Heck
This is a virus-generated mail. It's generated by the W32/Netsky.b@MM virus. Looks like someone hasn't updated his/hers virusscanner :-)
>>> "Tillman, Edward" <Edward.Tillman(a)valero.com> 02/24 10:08 >>>
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Ed Tillman
Store Automation Tech Support Specialist
Valero Energy Corporation
San Antonio, Texas, USA
Office: (210)592-3110, Fax (210)592-2048
Email: edward.tillman(a)valero.com <mailto:edward.tillman@valero.com>
-----Original Message-----
From: veeke200(a)tech.nhl.nl [mailto:veeke200@tech.nhl.nl]
Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2004 3:09 AM
To: cctech(a)classiccmp.org
Subject: read it immediately
here it is