- test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org - classiccmp.org

by dave04a＠dunfield.com

I have recently acquired a Dy4 DSM 6816, a 68000 based workstation which appears to be from the mid 80's. The machine works, I can access a ROM monitor, and boot a OS loader from the hard drive, however I have no documentation, and the Unix OS itself appears to have been wiped from it. Looking to contact anyone who knows anything about this system... I would love to find an OS installation set for it, but any information at all would be helpful. Cheers, -- dave04a (at) Dave Dunfield dunfield (dot) Firmware development services & tools: www.dunfield.com com Vintage computing equipment collector.

22 years, 3 months

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Strange Keyboard (take 2)

by lyosnorezel＠yahoo.com

Look Sellam... I'm doing the best I can... I do have linux RH9... but I am unable to connect to the internet using that box because: a.)I live with me parents (temporarily), b.) me parents only know and understand Winblows, and are currently using Winblows XP, c.) they have an ISP of goddamn AOL, for the love of god... (somebody shoot them please), d.)I don't own a domain (no money to buy one with), e.)I'm not allowed to install any compression software... so I'm stuck with winzip f.)due to a fault in the scanning software, only bitmaps (.bmp) can be used. g.)aol's "homepage" setup gives out the username and due to me need to remain hidden I cannot abide by that. Yes my name is "Lyos Gemini Norezel" but me aol account has one hell of alot more information then just me name. h.)... beginning to get the idea? I could list the obstacles all damn day and still not finish So please... try not to criticize what you don't understand... me parents and I have been fighting too many times to count... all of them about these issues... particuarly about Winblows and AOL. Gimme a break alright? I'm trying... it's not as easy as one would like to believe. Lyos Gemini Norezel <-------Sellam Wrote:-----------------> Thanks for going to all that trouble but I still won't look at them until Lyos manages to get his act together. Sheesh. Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - More reliable, more storage, less spam

22 years, 3 months

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Yamaha CS-80 Synth

by cherry7866＠yahoo.com

http://www.classiccmp.org/pipermail/cctech/2003-October/020647.html I just came across your old post regarding selling this -- did you ever find a buyer or put on ebay? I am interested if you still have it collecting dust ;) Let me know, thanks! Cherry __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - More reliable, more storage, less spam http://mail.yahoo.com

22 years, 3 months

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OT: Justice, FBI Seek Rules for Internet Taps

by msokolov＠ivan.Harhan.ORG

> I'm unclear why it's called the "Justice" department. More like the > "Intrusion" department. All-American States Department of Penalties and Executions. (From Uriy Petuhov's Star Revenge epic, the same one from which the names Harhan and Quasijarus came.) MS

22 years, 3 months

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monitor with screwed colour in bottom-right of screen

by julesrichardsonuk＠yahoo.co.uk

posted to sci.electronics.repair, but some of you guys might be able to help too... I've just been given a nice Iiyama 21" screen for free which seems to run quite happily, with the exception that the colours are screwed in the bottom-right inch or so of the display; the same sort of effect that would be achieved by holding a big magnet in that corner of the screen. Degaussing seems to have variable effect; sometimes it almost cures it and sometimes it just makes it worse, but it never goes away. Any ideas what might be up with it? Or is it a mechanical fault (i.e. the picture tube just shot)? Also, is this something that will get worse now it's started? If not, I could almost live with replacing the 17" screen on my desktop PC with this one, as the 17" is getting a little fuzzy and at least this 21" screen has a crisp display even if there is a bit of colour damage right in the corner... cheers Jules

22 years, 3 months

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Experiences with shippping heavy stuff Eur-> US ?

by jos.mar＠bluewin.ch

Anyone have practical experiences shipping some 75 kg of computer from Europe to the US ? Any companies to be recommended ? Rates that have been paid ? Jos

22 years, 3 months

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older technical software

by teoz＠neo.rr.com

Do you guys ever come across older technical software for the PC or Mac? Over the last few years I have found copies of some cad software along with mathematics, MathCAD, and a few other goodies for my 68k macs. I was wondering how common that kind of software is and what kind of places would have it.

22 years, 3 months

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VAX wanted

by jwest＠classiccmp.org

Anyone have a VAX 11/730 or 11/750 they might consider trading? --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus]

22 years, 3 months

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Stupid Wire Wrapper Questions

by toresbe＠ifi.uio.no

Alright. Here are some questions regarding the PDP-7 wire rewrapping: Are there different sizes? Different/special wires? Is it hard? In comparison to soldering? Are there huge differences in wrapper types? I've got several offers, and thank you all for those. With some of this info, I might get back to some of them. :) -tsb

22 years, 3 months

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"RP02-like" disk packs; yours for the postage

by aek＠spies.com

I fell for the same thing. They are 12 sector 5440 packs. He also did an AMAZINGLY poor job of packing. 7 packs in a cardboard box with NO padding. Shipped USPS media mail.

22 years, 3 months

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74H52

by wei＠weisd.com

Jim: We have 5ea 74H52?s in stock @ .99 if you still need one. www.weisd.com <http://www.weisd.com/> and type 74H52 in the search box. Mel Pooley Wholesale Electronics Inc wei(a)weisd.com www.weisd.com

22 years, 3 months

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TRS 80 Model 1 Question

by billdeg＠degnanco.com

Hello. I am about to take a TRS 80 under the knife to repair a keyboard. The computer works fine, 16K Model 1/ 008 (never seen one with a part number ending with "1008". The S/N 0000738) ...Anyway the E key does not work on the main keyboard, and the 2 key does not work on the number pad. I believe it's a contact problem, not a chip problem, based on what I have read. I have a schematic for TRS 80 Model III. I *assume* that the model I and III keyboards are basically the same enough to give me a clue where to isolate the circuitry for the "E" and "2" keys . Looking for a second opinion. Also if anyone on this mailing list knows details about the TRS 80 "008", I would be curious to lean more. I believe this is the last version of the TRS 80 Model 1, but other than that I have found few references to this model on the Internet from searching. bill from wilm, delaware

22 years, 3 months

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Apple T-Shirts book

by MTPro＠aol.com

Apple T-Shirts: A Yearbook of History at Apple Computer by Gordon Thygeson Hello all, I've been looking for a copy of this book for some time, and I finally found someone with a few copies for sale. If you're interested, here's some info from amazon.com about it: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0966139348/qid=1079118229/sr=… Please write Erin O'Conner at: erinoc(a)yahoo.com Best, David Greelish, classiccomputing.com

22 years, 3 months

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EBAY???

by marvin＠rain.org

I just read some statistics about the change in direction that Ebay is taking. From AuctionBytes-Update Number 114 - March 7, 2004 - ISSN 1528-6703: "Collectibles comprised 60 percent of the total value of goods sold on eBay in 1999. In 2003, collectibles comprised just 13 percent of gross merchandise sales. Each year, selling on eBay becomes more challenging. If you have a rare and unique item, you'll get a very good price on eBay. Otherwise, in many categories, competition is tough."

22 years, 3 months

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Amstrad 1512

by david＠errock.co.uk

Hi, I offered you an Amstrad 1512 some time ago... It's gone now - would you mind removing my email from the classiccmp website? Many thanks, David

22 years, 3 months

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monitor with screwed colour in bottom-right of screen

by nbreeden2＠comcast.net

-Neil >Date: 12 Mar 2004 15:16:29 +0000 >From: Jules Richardson <julesrichardsonuk(a)yahoo.co.uk> >Subject: Re: monitor with screwed colour in bottom-right of screen >To: "General Discussion: "On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts > <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> >Message-ID: <1079104588.6859.61.camel(a)weka.localdomain> >Content-Type: text/plain > > That's the degaussing cable - what removes stray magnetism from the > monitor on power-up/pressing of a 'degauss' button. If physically unplugging the degaussing coil (which is the loop of wire around the front of the monitor) fixes the color issue I would suspect that the degaussing switch circuit has become leaky and is leaving the coil partially energized all the time. The coil sees power for a short period when the monitor is first powered up or the user calls for a 'degaussing' >from the monitor controls. Under normal use the coil should not be energized. -Neil

22 years, 3 months

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monitor with screwed colour in bottom-right of screen

by cb＠mythtech.net

>It broke >free of its moorings whilst going round a sharp corner - one very heavy >monitor somersaulted across the boot of the car with one hell of a bang >:-( > >I'm amazed the tube didn't implode to be honest, I don't know, I've found monitor tubes to be fairly sturdy when it comes to imploding. I've TRIED to break them before when throwing them out (why? because its fun). And it usually takes a few good whacks with something fairly heavy to crack the front glass. And then it just hisses as the vacuum is broken and lots of nasty dust floats around... no magic imploding like you see on TV. On the other hand, I've found the back end of tubes, to be very sensitive to breakage, and have cracked the gun off a number of them due to improper shipping, or just giving a hard throw into a dumpster. But again, no imploding, just broken glass. I do plan to attempt to play "monitor golf" with the next one I throw out... take a 10 lb sledge hammer, and swing it like a golf club at the front of the monitor, and see either how far you drive the hammer into the screen, or how far the monitor rolls away. :-) And alas, the building I work in is being sold to a more conservative owner (the local hospital), so I'm loosing my ability to toss things off the roof to watch them smash into the parking lot. The current owner lives many states away and is a little more relaxed about these things... but I don't think the hospital will be happy to have me continue my adventures under their ownership. :-( -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

22 years, 3 months

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[x-post from port-vax] HSD05 formatting

by port-vax＠microvax.org

Hi again guys :) I've got myself a storageworks shelf (with floor-stand hardware and the smoked doors :D ) that has 3 SBBs and a HSD05 DSSI<->SCSI unit. It's hooked up to my 4000/200 with a KFQSA MSCP DSSI card, and i've set it up so that I can SET HOST/DUP/UQSSP/DISK 0 into the HSD05 and run all the setup utils and toys there. However, I don't know how to partition these disks under NetBSD - i've had a bit of a fiddle with disklabel but quite frankly I get a bit lost, and most of the time disklabel locks up on me anyway - I suspect this is because it cannot know the true geometry of the disk it is talking to, but that's just a supposition... The three disks I have appear to the VAX firmware as DIS610, DUA620 and DUA630 - all appearing as RF72 disks, and the VAX is netbooting NetBSD 1.5.2. Can anyone explain to me how I can get these babies formatted so I can eventually install NetBSD on them? TIA alex/melt

22 years, 3 months

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"RP02-like" disk packs; yours for the postage

by brad＠heeltoe.com

Hi, I bought 3 "RL02-like" disk packs on ebay which of course turn out not to be RL02's. (the picture was of an actual RL02, so I took a chance...) Anyway, before I toss them in the dumpster if anyone would like them they are yours for the postage. They are physically ok and fit into an RL02 drive. They spin up fine but don't come ready (no doubt due to missing timing track or something like that) Perhaps some other non-DEC machine can use them. -brad

22 years, 3 months

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TRS 80 Model 1 Question

by majordomo1＠cox.net

Ahoy, I've performed a cleaning procedure many times using a paper clip hooked under the key, and pulling straight up till it flew out. One drop of alcohol of at least 91% is then applied. Look for where the key landed and reseat it, and your OK. .. good luck .. harry .. > > From: "B.Degnan" <billdeg(a)degnanco.com> > Date: 2004/03/11 Thu PM 09:49:41 EST > To: cctech(a)classiccmp.org > Subject: TRS 80 Model 1 Question > > Hello. > I am about to take a TRS 80 under the knife to repair a keyboard. The > computer works fine, 16K Model 1/ 008 (never seen one with a part number > ending with "1008". The S/N 0000738) ...Anyway the E key does not work on > the main keyboard, and the 2 key does not work on the number pad. I > believe it's a contact problem, not a chip problem, based on what I have > read. I have a schematic for TRS 80 Model III. I *assume* that the model > I and III keyboards are basically the same enough to give me a clue where > to isolate the circuitry for the "E" and "2" keys . Looking for a second > opinion. Also if anyone on this mailing list knows details about the TRS > 80 "008", I would be curious to lean more. I believe this is the last > version of the TRS 80 Model 1, but other than that I have found few > references to this model on the Internet from searching. > bill from wilm, delaware > > >

22 years, 3 months

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VaxStation Keyboard Insanity

by jeff.kaneko＠juno.com

Yes, S3 is in the DOWN position, to use the framebuffer. The VaxStation completely ignores the LK201 that I've plugged into it. All four lites on the LK stay ON. On Thu, 11 Mar 2004 23:27:27 -0000 "Witchy" <witchy(a)binarydinosaurs.co.uk> writes: > > -----Original Message----- > > From: cctalk-bounces(a)classiccmp.org > > [mailto:cctalk-bounces@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of > > jeff.kaneko(a)juno.com > > Sent: 11 March 2004 21:36 > > To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org > > Subject: VaxStation Keyboard Insanity > > > > Is there a special 'dance' that I have to do before the > > VaxStation responds to the keyboard? > > Are they really fragile, or something? > > Don't you need to set the switch known as S3 to tell the VAXstation > it's now > using an alternate console instead of a framebuffer? It should be > on the > back next (I think) to the halt button. I can't remember which > direction it > needs to be in, but you won't harm anything by changing it. > > Cheers > > w > > > ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today!

22 years, 3 months

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epson qx-10 computer

by Keeshz＠aol.com

Did you ever sell or give away your QX-10? I am looking to acquire one. Thanks. Mary keeshz(a)aol.com

22 years, 3 months

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grid

by slotdelorean＠telefonica.net

hi, you don?t know me, but in a internet searching i found a thread of a forum relating the EPROM problems in a gridcase computer, i have a grid with the brand "philips pc200" ??, but this is a grid, concretely the model with isa bus, i found than the four rom sockets back a soft plastic panel are empty and when i plug it on the only thing it does is show-me a "disk boot error" message, please if you can send me the eprom image files to be able to restore it. THANKS.

22 years, 3 months

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Paging Bob Shannon

by uban＠ubanproductions.com

I've been unable to communicate (via email) with Bob Shannon for quite some time now. Does anyone know what has become of him? --tom

22 years, 3 months

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any electronic surplus places around Richmond, Virginia?

by melamy＠earthlink.net

I am heading down from Fredericksburg to Richmond Saturday and I was looking for any info from the group about surplus places. I haven't been able to find any by internet searches, so is anyone able to point out one or two? (or more... :) Thanks! best regards, Steve Thatcher

22 years, 3 months

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VAX won't recognize TQK70

by rdd＠rddavis.org

After attaching an external power supply to my TK70 (since I don't have the sled with connectors to the VAX's power supply, and didn't know where to solder power cables to from inside the empty bay), and installing the TQK70 into a Qbus slot, I can't get the system to even recognize the TQK70. Nothing lights up on thee TK70, although both LEDs on the TQK70 are lit. The cable is connected the right way. The CSR on the TQK70 is set to 774500, and the jumpers are connecting the bottom two of the three rows of pins on the drive-select jumpers. I've tried inserting the TQK70 into various slots (including upper and lower, since I understand that grant continuation follows a serpentine pattern. When I do a show qbus command, the TQK70 doesn't show up: >>> sh qbus -20000200 (761000) = 0000 IDV11A -20000202 (761002) = 807F -20000204 (761004) = 0000 -20000206 (761006) = F9FD -200002AC (761254) = 00C0 DTCN5 -200002AE (761256) = 0000 -200002B4 (761264) = 0020 DTC05 -200002B6 (761266) = 0000 -200002B8 (761270) = 0020 DTC05 -200002BA (761272) = 0000 -20001F40 (777500) = 0020 IPCR Any thoughts/ideas? -- Copyright (C) 2003 R. D. Davis The difference between humans & other animals: All Rights Reserved | My VAX | an unnatural belief that we're above Nature & www.rddavis.org | runs VMS & | her other creatures, using dogma to justify such 410-744-4900 | doesn't crash!| beliefs and to justify much human cruelty.

22 years, 3 months

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C64 Commands/User Manual

by chrisc＠addpower.com

Check for the manual (lovingly reproduced) at http://www.lemon64.com/manual/ Cheers, Chris Cureau Lyos Norezel <lyosnorezel@yahoo. To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org com> cc: Sent by: Subject: C64 Commands/User Manual cctech-bounces@clas siccmp.org 03/10/2004 03:00 PM Please respond to "General Discussion: On-Topic Posts Only" Hey ya'll... does anyone have an online/pdf/html/etc version of the C64 command list or (better yet) the User Manual? I have a working C64 it good condition along with the 1541 floppy and a printer with interface. Nice setup... but could really use a PC with the old fashioned 5.25" floppy drive. *Sigh* Lyos Gemini Norezel --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search - Find what you're looking for faster.

22 years, 3 months

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VaxStation Keyboard Insanity

by jeff.kaneko＠juno.com

Can someone please tell me what I'm doing wrong? I have two VaxStation 3100/M76's that refuse to respond to the keyboard! After the POST, I get the usual error messages for missing disks and missing AUI adaptor. I then get the ">>>" prompt, and that's it. I'm using several LK-201's, and they all behave the same. Both VaxStations behave the same. Is there a special 'dance' that I have to do before the VaxStation responds to the keyboard? Are they really fragile, or something? Thanks! Jeff ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today!

22 years, 3 months

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VAX won't recognize TQK70

by msokolov＠ivan.Harhan.ORG

R. D. Davis <rdd(a)rddavis.org> wrote: > >>>e/p/w 20001940 > ?66 ILLEGAL ADDRESS 20001944 > >>>e/p/w 20001942 > ?66 ILLEGAL ADDRESS 20001946 Hmm, I wonder who is adding 4 to the error address: the machine check generation logic in the CPU or the machine check handler in the firmware... MS

22 years, 3 months

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VAX won't recognize TQK70

by msokolov＠ivan.Harhan.ORG

R. D. Davis <rdd(a)rddavis.org> wrote: > The CSR on the TQK70 is set to 774500 [...] > > When I do a show qbus command, the TQK70 doesn't show up: [in SHOW QBUS] Try reading the IP and SA registers with EXAMINE commands: >>>E/P/W 20001940 >>>E/P/W 20001942 If instead of numbers (values read), the console responds with a message to the effect that no device responded to the read, it means that there is something wrong with the TQK70 board. It has nothing to do with the power to the drive since the controller must respond to reads of its IP and SA registers even if there is no drive at all. Grant continuity problems also won't affect the ability to read or write registers, since the device can still act as a slave, it needs a grant only to do DMA or send an interrupt vector to the CPU. MS

22 years, 3 months

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contolling static

by kenziem＠sympatico.ca

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I recently had dry wall and laminate flooring installed in the basement. Since then, I've been getting shocks when I walk into the room and touch anything. Any ideas on reducing/controlling the static? - -- Ottawa, Canada Collector of vintage computers http://www.ncf.ca/~ba600 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAT60ALPrIaE/xBZARAh4WAKDWiT/OJwDc85ftZQvNJM/SKhSAcgCfQnx1 MoYPs5M0kN9zeT+IUsT/nzs= =9D+o -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

22 years, 3 months

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contolling static

by dwight.elvey＠amd.com

Hi One other thought. Take some liquid dish soap and delute a couple of spoons full into a bucket. Mop the floor with this, without rinsing ( just let it dry ). This should also help some. Dwight >From: "Brian Mahoney" <brianmahoney(a)look.ca> > >> > >> >Any ideas on reducing/controlling the static? >> > >> >- -- >> >Ottawa, Canada >> > > >The problem isn't moisture, most basements have enough of that especially if >you used new wood for studs. The laminate flooring is causing the problem. >There are some kinds that have anti-static built into them but not yours, >obviously. >If the problem is around your stored computers, I would suggest an >anti-static mat with a ground cord. For the price you could get a few and >place them all around your work area. I'm sure someone here could figure out >how to ground the whole floor since it is now, more or less, monolithic. >Hope this helps. > >BM > >

22 years, 3 months

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contolling static

by dwight.elvey＠amd.com

>From: Mike <kenziem(a)sympatico.ca> > Hi Don't wear shoes. Humidify the air. Get an ion generator. Dwight >Hash: SHA1 > >I recently had dry wall and laminate flooring installed in the basement. >Since then, I've been getting shocks when I walk into the room and touch >anything. > >Any ideas on reducing/controlling the static? > >- -- >Ottawa, Canada > >

22 years, 3 months

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Quick DECrepeater question

by lists＠microvax.org

Hey guys, a quick question whilst i'm sat at my lists email address: Can anyone explain the difference between a DECrepeater 90T and a 90T+ ? thanks as always alex/melt

22 years, 3 months

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C64 Commands/User Manual

by lyosnorezel＠yahoo.com

Hey ya'll... does anyone have an online/pdf/html/etc version of the C64 command list or (better yet) the User Manual? I have a working C64 it good condition along with the 1541 floppy and a printer with interface. Nice setup... but could really use a PC with the old fashioned 5.25" floppy drive. *Sigh* Lyos Gemini Norezel --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search - Find what you’re looking for faster.

22 years, 3 months

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Paging John Allain...

by vcf＠siconic.com

...are you getting my messages? -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org [ Old computing resources for business || Buy/Sell/Trade Vintage Computers ] [ and academia at www.VintageTech.com || at http://marketplace.vintage.org ]

22 years, 3 months

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Good experience (ESR Meter)

by jwest＠classiccmp.org

Just wanted to pass this on to the list, as when I posted about it earlier several folks replied that they had, or wanted an ESR meter for working on their classic computers. One of the more popular (and for good reason) ESR meters is the Dick Smith one. I believe the Dick Smith one was an implementation of an original design by Bob Parker. While the Dick Smith one is a great meter, EVB electronics partnered up with Bob Parker and came up with a new unit. This one has exactly the same specs as the Dick Smith unit, but a few really nice improvements. Much better display quality (bigger brighter numbers) More of a professional, polished looking case and probes Much better protection from charged caps Automatic power off after 3 minutes of inactivity (instead of 2) More to the point, the Dick Smith meter is 50-60 USD in kit form, and 75 to 110 USD assembled (seems to average about 97). But you need a calibrated DC supply to calibrate the unit once built. The EVB unit comes preassembled, calibrated, with leads, for $87 USD including shipping. For roughly the same bucks as the Dick Smith one, you get a slightly better unit (same design). More to the point, two days after I got my EVB unit, I got an email from the owner at EVB. He just wanted to make sure I got my unit, that it worked correctly, and that I was satisfied. Turns out there was a minor problem with my unit, and he took a genuine interest in the problem and made it right (was just a mechanical adjustment to the bananna plug sockets). Most impressive in this day & age, so I wanted to pass on my experience and recommendation. Jay West --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus]

22 years, 3 months

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AUI cables in UK?

by bqt＠update.uu.se

On Mon, 8 Mar 2004 "Antonio Carlini" <arcarlini(a)iee.org> wrote: > > > The rules aren't quite what you said -- the transceiver > > rule is that > > > you put them on the stripes. You can put transceivers on adjacent > > > stripes. > > > > You can, but I was always told (and read somewhere) there > > should be two stripes between, not one. > > > Paul's rule (which is the one I was told) is that you can use > *any* stripes and there is *no* requirement for one stripe > in between transceivers (never mind two). > > Given that this stuff was often hidden in suspended ceilings > and suchlike, it would be quite tricky to check that adjacent > stripes (or two adjacent stripes) were unused (I assume the rule > applies in both directions. Surely it would have been easier > to miss out the unusuable stripes? > > OTOH I don't have any documentation to hand that says one > way or the other but I'd be happy to see it written down > unequivocally somewhere. I'm pretty sure that the stripes are at 2.5 m. I'm also pretty sure that the standard says you should have 5 meters between transcievers. But I have actually never really understood why. Maybe just to not damage the cable to much with vampire taps? There cannot be an electrical or signal reason for this, as far as I can tell. Johnny Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus || on a psychedelic trip email: bqt(a)update.uu.se || Reading murder books pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol

22 years, 3 months

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New-in-Box Atari 825 printers

by vcf＠siconic.com

Nothing terribly special, but this fellow contacted me this morning about a lot of Atari 825 printers new-in-the-box that he came upon. He's posted one on the Vintage Computer Marketplace: http://marketplace.vintage.org/view.cfm?ad=456 For you Atari fans, this would be a good opportunity to get a brand new 825 printer at a not-bad price ($20). -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org [ Old computing resources for business || Buy/Sell/Trade Vintage Computers ] [ and academia at www.VintageTech.com || at http://marketplace.vintage.org ]

22 years, 3 months

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[x-post from port-vax] HSD05 formatting

by lists＠microvax.org

Hi again guys :) I've got myself a storageworks shelf (with floor-stand hardware and the smoked doors :D ) that has 3 SBBs and a HSD05 DSSI<->SCSI unit. It's hooked up to my 4000/200 with a KFQSA MSCP DSSI card, and i've set it up so that I can SET HOST/DUP/UQSSP/DISK 0 into the HSD05 and run all the setup utils and toys there. However, I don't know how to partition these disks under NetBSD - i've had a bit of a fiddle with disklabel but quite frankly I get a bit lost, and most of the time disklabel locks up on me anyway - I suspect this is because it cannot know the true geometry of the disk it is talking to, but that's just a supposition... The three disks I have appear to the VAX firmware as DIS610, DUA620 and DUA630 - all appearing as RF72 disks, and the VAX is netbooting NetBSD 1.5.2. Can anyone explain to me how I can get these babies formatted so I can eventually install NetBSD on them? TIA alex/melt

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[x-post from port-vax] HSD05 formatting

by trash＠microvax.org

Hi again guys :) I've got myself a storageworks shelf (with floor-stand hardware and the smoked doors :D ) that has 3 SBBs and a HSD05 DSSI<->SCSI unit. It's hooked up to my 4000/200 with a KFQSA MSCP DSSI card, and i've set it up so that I can SET HOST/DUP/UQSSP/DISK 0 into the HSD05 and run all the setup utils and toys there. However, I don't know how to partition these disks under NetBSD - i've had a bit of a fiddle with disklabel but quite frankly I get a bit lost, and most of the time disklabel locks up on me anyway - I suspect this is because it cannot know the true geometry of the disk it is talking to, but that's just a supposition... The three disks I have appear to the VAX firmware as DIS610, DUA620 and DUA630 - all appearing as RF72 disks, and the VAX is netbooting NetBSD 1.5.2. Can anyone explain to me how I can get these babies formatted so I can eventually install NetBSD on them? TIA alex/melt

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[x-post from port-vax] KZQSA tech docs needed

by lists＠microvax.org

Hi guys - as per title really. Does anyone have a copy of any documentation pertaining to the KZQSA QBUS SCSI adaptor local? I've followed a couple of trails and hit dead ends. I'm looking to do a bit of dev with the card... TIA alex/melt

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Alpha & HP on eBay UK

by classiccmp.org＠irrelevant.fsnet.co.uk

Spotted these on my wanderings. They are physically too big for me to bid on, but since we have talk of these on here, thought I'd mention them as they might be a bargain for someone, depending how the bidding goes. http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3083732068&category=14… Alpha 4100 + Raid Disk Arrays + Server Rack Located in London 6 days to go, currently sat at ?1.00 with no reserve. Also of interest: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3082607371&category=176 HP Storage Rack Unit -0055 with 36 various 9.1Gb drives. 1 day left, no bids, ?1.00 reserve not met.

22 years, 3 months

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Vinegar and Computer guts...

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

Does anyone know if it would be safe to put a dish of Vinegar inside a computer? I've got a Sun Ultra 60 that smells. I've already sprayed the foam and fans with Lysol, and I've taken bleach to the foam as well, plus I'm getting ready to put the front (which is the foam that smells the worst) through the dishwasher. However, the inside of the computer smells some as well, and it's been suggested that I stick an open dish of vinegar in/near the computer, changing the vinegar a couple times a day for a couple days. I'm slightly nervous about this as Vinegar is 5% acidic. I'm just afraid to have the system in the house, and power it up until I get the smell beat down thanks to my allergies. Zane -- -- | Zane H. Healy | UNIX Systems Administrator | | healyzh(a)aracnet.com (primary) | OpenVMS Enthusiast | | | Classic Computer Collector | +----------------------------------+----------------------------+ | Empire of the Petal Throne and Traveller Role Playing, | | PDP-10 Emulation and Zane's Computer Museum. | | http://www.aracnet.com/~healyzh/ |

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Sun U10/U60 Creator 3D card question

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

I've got an Sun Ultra 10 with a nice Creator 3D card in it. Yesterday I scored a Sun Ultra 60 with dual 300's :^) Is there any reason I can't move the Creator 3D card from the U10 to the U60? Zane -- -- | Zane H. Healy | UNIX Systems Administrator | | healyzh(a)aracnet.com (primary) | OpenVMS Enthusiast | | | Classic Computer Collector | +----------------------------------+----------------------------+ | Empire of the Petal Throne and Traveller Role Playing, | | PDP-10 Emulation and Zane's Computer Museum. | | http://www.aracnet.com/~healyzh/ |

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[x-post from port-vax] KZQSA tech docs needed

by port-vax＠microvax.org

Hi guys - as per title really. Does anyone have a copy of any documentation pertaining to the KZQSA QBUS SCSI adaptor local? I've followed a couple of trails and hit dead ends. I'm looking to do a bit of dev with the card... TIA alex/melt

22 years, 3 months

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VAXStation disk question

by jpl15＠panix.com

O Gurus assembled - hear my story: Was at Mike Quinn's in the Area of the Bay on Saturday after a nice visit to Sellam's ..... um.... place of business. ;} Found a forlorn VAXStation 3100 M38 upside down in a stack of PCs, and bought same for about twice the going rate. Of course, that amount of money would still not get one a decent burrito, so I didn't pay much. Getting it home and hooked up, it goes thru the usual VAXStation boot sequence ending in the >>> chevron prompt. Attempting to boot, >>> b (ret) produces a 1 minute wait and returns 40 NOSUCHDEV 06 HLT INST PC=00000C66 the first time after power-up and 40 NOSUCHDEV 84 FAIL subsequently to [back-panel button] resetting and re-attempting a boot. This was a DEC-owned machine, it has a DEC property/asset tag on it, and the drive is a DEC RZ23-E (Connor). If it's running, it's the damn quietest HD I've ever encountered. The drive is getting it's proper voltages, +5 and +12, and upon power up the faintest of 'clicks' can be heard within it (parking solenoid??) and then nothing. I have tried the judicious use of repetitive impulse torque normal to the plane of rotation of the platters (I held it and banged a corner with the handle of a screwdriver) in case the spindle was perhaps stuck. SO: I'd love to know what's on this HD, but it's possible to also form the assumption that it has gone to be with it's Honorable Ancestors and will not return this way again. Any thoughts / ideas? Thanking Y'all in advance: Cheers John

22 years, 3 months

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c64 guru: save a file again

by ron.hudson＠sbcglobal.net

It seems I can't save a file twice with the same name ... write basic program ... save "program",8 ... edit basic program ... save "program",8 (light on floppy blinks - error ) verify "program",8 wont verify ... power cycle ... load "program",8 ... view program ... it's the old program, not the edited program. this behaviour noted on both a read c64sx (before it croaked) and on the VICE emulator. I can't seem to see anything in the manual about it.. and also no command to delete a file.

22 years, 3 months

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Ultrix V4.2 sources et al...

by msokolov＠ivan.Harhan.ORG

R. D. Davis <rdd(a)rddavis.org> wrote: > This is interesting. Why then do DECvoice and Fallon FAX cards, for a > Qbus VAX, have connectors for a T1 line on them? Not being very > familiar with telephone equipment with T1 lines, perhaps I'm > overlooking something. Any thoughts on this? In telephony applications a T1 is split into 24 channels each carrying a phone call. When, however, someone speaks about T1 as a dedicated line for Inet, a device called a CSU/DSU takes the entire T1 payload (all 24 channels together) and turns it into an EIA-422 or V.35 synchronous serial stream that a router then has to deal with. In fractional T1 applications the CSU/DSU is reconfigured to take fewer than all 24 channels, reducing the bit rate on the EIA-422 or V.35 line. MS

22 years, 3 months

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TelePad Stylus Needed

by jeff.kaneko＠juno.com

Does anyone here know where I can get a stylus for this machine? It's a '486 slate pc by TelePad. I'm hoping that they used a compatible stylus >from like maybe a Kurta pad, or something similar. The TelePad company itself is long gone . . . . Thanks! Jeff ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today!

22 years, 3 months

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