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by legalize＠xmission.com

Al Kossow is now publishing a Whatsnew.txt for the disk/tape images section of bitsavers. This allowed me to take my existing RSS feed mechanism for the PDF section of bitsavers and expand it to cover the bits section as well. The old RSS feed URL will continue to work, but I recommend that you use the specific RSS feed for the section you want to monitor: RSS feed for bitsavers PDF: <http://www.xmission.com/~legalize/vintage/bitsavers-pdf.xml> RSS feed for bitsavers bits: <http://www.xmission.com/~legalize/vintage/bitsavers-bits.xml> The feeds are updated hourly. -- "The Direct3D Graphics Pipeline" -- DirectX 9 draft available for download <http://www.xmission.com/~legalize/book/download/index.html> Legalize Adulthood! <http://blogs.xmission.com/legalize/>

17 years, 3 months

Creating boot disks for a DECMate III

by djg＠pdp8.net

>I've recently got hold of a pair of DECMate IIIs and would like to get >them up and running with OS/278. Unfortunately they didn't come with any >media so I'm wondering if anyone knows of a site that has some suitable >boot images that I can copy onto 5.25" floppies with PUTR > http://www.dbit.com/pub/pdp8/images/block/ I was about to post the link to the alt.sys.pdp8 message with the instructions on how to use these images with putr but it now looks like google groups now requires you to sign in to view.

17 years, 3 months

OT: Longshot: Looking for Sony PSOne accessories.

by woyciesjes＠sbcglobal.net

I apologies for the extremely off-topic post, but knowing how people here tend to be packrats... :) .. and generally nice... I was given a PSOne game console recently. Just the console. Does anyone have cables & controllers collecting dust? I'm in the New Haven CT area, and don't have cash available... Yeah, like I said, it's a long shot of a request. Thanks for humoring me. -- --- Dave Woyciesjes --- ICQ# 905818 --- AIM - woyciesjes --- CompTIA A+ Certified IT Tech - http://certification.comptia.org/ --- HDI Certified Support Center Analyst - http://www.ThinkHDI.com/ "From there to here, From here to there, Funny things are everywhere." --- Dr. Seuss

17 years, 3 months

Signetics 2650 brochure

by charlesmorris800＠centurytel.net

Anyone interested in a "Introductory Brochure and Short Form Catalog" for the Signetics 2650 microprocessor? Free except for postage. Hope someone can use it. thanks Charles

17 years, 3 months

Manuals for S-100 boards

by charlesmorris800＠centurytel.net

Whoever bought my Wameco CPU-1 8080A card and QMB-9 "Little Mother" motherboard, please email me offlist. I found the original manuals for them if you are interested. thanks Charles

17 years, 3 months

paging Josh Dersch

by charlesmorris800＠centurytel.net

Please email me offlist. thanks Charles

17 years, 3 months

Amazed by prices

by brianlanning＠gmail.com

ebay: 320349058642 I'm sure it's a collector's item. But this stuff blows my mind. I had one of these along with a few other vintage items that I'm ashamed to say that I ditched long ago, including a certain red and white computer that plugged into a famous video game console from a certain japanese company. :-( brian

17 years, 3 months

Amazed by prices

by christian_liendo＠yahoo.com

I have one with the keyboard, monitor & printer.. No so clean tough... But yea that's REALLY high. --- On Fri, 3/13/09, James Fogg <james at jdfogg.com> wrote: From: James Fogg <james at jdfogg.com> Subject: Re: Amazed by prices To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk at classiccmp.org> Date: Friday, March 13, 2009, 8:57 PM > ebay:???320349058642 > > I'm sure it's a collector's item.? But this stuff blows my mind.? I > had one of these along with a few other vintage items that I'm ashamed > to say that I ditched long ago, including a certain red and white > computer that plugged into a famous video game console from a certain > japanese company. :-( I need to watch that auction since I have one of these with the monitor and keyboard and I could use the money. -- James - Certified autodidactic polymath and proud of it!

17 years, 3 months

Creating boot disks for a DECMate III

by toby＠coreware.co.uk

I've recently got hold of a pair of DECMate IIIs and would like to get them up and running with OS/278. Unfortunately they didn't come with any media so I'm wondering if anyone knows of a site that has some suitable boot images that I can copy onto 5.25" floppies with PUTR I've found some images on sunsite and update.uu.se however these are in teledisk format. Is it possible to turn these back into a straight physical image suitable for use with PUTR? Thanks, Toby -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.

17 years, 3 months

Amazed by prices

by aek＠bitsavers.org

> ebay: 320349058642 > I'm sure it's a collector's item. But this stuff blows my mind. I > had one of these along with a few other vintage items that I'm ashamed > to say that I ditched long ago The auction is for a very clean monochrome original 5150 PC with every bit of verison 1 software. My bets are it will go for well over the $1200 start. -- FWIW, we were surprised to discover that no one at CHM had never bothered to aquire a 5170 (PC-AT) or RT/PC. Now, I'm trying to find clean original IBM 5 1/4" inch half-height drives for the 5170 we got, and the correct vintage keyboard.

17 years, 3 months

VCF West 2009

by sellam＠vintagetech.com

> So did we ever learn anything about VCF West 2009? > > I had emailed Sellam a while back but haven't heard back. > > In fact, when Sellam wanted someone to rescue that Microdata Reality > machine in Sandy, UT, I emailed him but didn't get a reply to that > either. Was the machine rescued? This was Sellam's original message: Hi Richard and Everyone. First, apologies to everyone to whom I'm currently obligated in some way. Things have been hectic for me for quite some time. The economic collapse has been particularly burdensome on my end, so I'm dealing with several major issues. On top of that I broke my ankle in a fall a few weeks ago. I just had minor surgery yesterday to remove some bone fragments. I'm trying to take advantage of the situation as best I can to use the time to catch up on things I've put off for too long. Regarding the VCF (the main west coast event) it will PROBABLY be back this year, as planned. I say PROBABLY in caps because I'm of the economic school of theory that says we are not coming out of this one as we went in, so I don't know what to expect by the time the VCF usually rolls around. All I can promise is to just wait for the announcement if there's a feasible possibility of pulling off an event. As you all know, there was no VCF (west) in 2008. Perhaps a (brief) explanation is in order. In 2007, at the milestone capping VCF X event, I had made it clear to anyone who asked that I was planning to take a break >from the VCF for 2008. Things were getting tougher and I knew that an economic collapse was coming. I also was very worn out from ten years of producing the VCF (not to mention my normal work) and looked forward to a year without the slow build of pressure that occurs in the lead up to each VCF event. Every year it became harder and harder to get going on the event, and so I knew a break was needed. And of course, right on schedule the economy collapsed. The VCF would have been right in the middle of it, so my prescience was vindicated. Do know that the regional events are all still on schedule, including a new South event in Irving, Texas tomorrow: http://www.vintage.org/2009/lite/ This is a "VCF Lite", not a full-blown event, but Gil Carrick (the organizer) will be expanding it to a full VCF event next year. VCF Europa 10.0 is on schedule for May 1-3 (a 3-day event!) in Munich, Germany: http://vcfe.org/ VCF Midwest in its new Chicago location is on track, but no announcement has been made yet. And VCF East has been scheduled for September 12-13 at the usual location in Wall, NJ (InfoAge Science Center). As far as the Microdata Reality, I have no good excuse for not having gotten back to the folks who inquired, other than laziness and a sense of being overwhelmed. I just sent out respones to those who inquiried, so thanks for the nudge. -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org [ Old computing resources for business || Buy/Sell/Trade Vintage Computers ] [ and academia at www.VintageTech.com || at http://marketplace.vintage.org ]

17 years, 3 months

More surplus stuff

by toby＠coreware.co.uk

Hi Robert, I can probably provide you with the DEQNA->AUI cabling. I have a box full of them. I'm also in he UK. Contact me off list and I'll get one in the post. Toby On Fri, 2009-03-13 at 22:54 +0000, Robert Jarratt wrote: > Jim, > > I don't really have anything that you want, but I am looking for a small > item you may be able to help me with. I recently bought a MicroVAX II and > then bought a DEQNA for it. I have yet to power them on (you may have seen a > thread of mine on the PSU problem I have been having). The thing I don't > have is the cabinet kit for the DEQNA. I wonder if you have one, or even > just the cable from the DEQNA to an AUI connector, basically anything that > would let me connect the DEQNA to the network. By the way I am in the UK > too, Stockport to be precise. > > Regards > > Rob > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk- > > bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Jim Beacon > > Sent: 09 March 2009 19:47 > > To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts > > Subject: Re: More surplus stuff > > > > Should have said - this stuff is in the UK. > > > > Jim. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Jim Beacon" <jim at g1jbg.co.uk> > > To: "Classic computer list" <cctalk at classiccmp.org> > > Sent: Monday, March 09, 2009 6:31 PM > > Subject: More surplus stuff > > > > > > Hi All, > > > > more surplus stuff, this is for collection only! > > > > A number of PDP 11/73 systems. These systems consist of a rackmount > > BA23 > > box containing the standard PSU, processor, memory, two DEQNA and an > > Emulex > > serial port controller. They have no disk drive or controller - they > > net > > booted RSX11. Most of them have front panels, and I have some sets of > > rack > > mount rails (panels and rails only available with complete system). I > > probably have twelve systems available. > > > > Three Videcom terminals - unsure of the model number, but a fairly > > standard > > ASCII terminal. > > > > In exchange, I'm looking for some or all of the following: > > > > Tektronix terminal (4010 or similar) > > uVAX 1 or 2 cards (I have more of the BA23 boxes). > > PDP11/93 processor. > > PDP11/24 > > PDP 11/04 > > PDP8A (well, we live in hope....) > > > > Thanks > > > > Jim. > > > > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > --------- > > > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.9/1991 - Release Date: > > 03/09/09 > > 07:14:00 > > > -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.

17 years, 3 months

More surplus stuff

by jim＠g1jbg.co.uk

Hi All, more surplus stuff, this is for collection only! A number of PDP 11/73 systems. These systems consist of a rackmount BA23 box containing the standard PSU, processor, memory, two DEQNA and an Emulex serial port controller. They have no disk drive or controller - they net booted RSX11. Most of them have front panels, and I have some sets of rack mount rails (panels and rails only available with complete system). I probably have twelve systems available. Three Videcom terminals - unsure of the model number, but a fairly standard ASCII terminal. In exchange, I'm looking for some or all of the following: Tektronix terminal (4010 or similar) uVAX 1 or 2 cards (I have more of the BA23 boxes). PDP11/93 processor. PDP11/24 PDP 11/04 PDP8A (well, we live in hope....) Thanks Jim.

17 years, 3 months

Fox electronics

by sellam＠vintagetech.com

Hi Brian. I've dealt with Fox Electronics on several occasions. They are primarily a chip recycler but also recycle other computer components such as hard drives and memory. I know Brad Fox (co-owner) and he's one of the nicest guys you'll ever meet. I sold him several batches of scrap circuit boards from my electronics recycling business over the past few years, plus other miscellaneous e-waste. One time I was there and he had a Terminator 2 arcade game that he gave me (which I recently traded for a Super Off-Road :) They used to be in San Jose but they moved their facility to Hayward. I don't know that they'd necessarily have anything in the way of retrocomputers, but it doesn't hurt to call and ask. There are so many electroncis recyclers now, especially in the Bay Area but also all over California, that most classic stuff that's still out there probably goes to scrap. My business occasionally gets some nice old iron, but definitely the bulk of it (99+%) is modern computer crap. Hitting these guys up to come out and look at their stuff will be a mixed bag. The smaller guys will, most of which are little one or two man shops, will probably welcome you, but the bigger operations probably won't unless you approach them more formally and explain your motives. Most of them are in it to convert electronics to scrap for pennies by the pound, and wouldn't know how to identify a vintage IBM from a modern one. However, if you give them model numbers, photos, etc. and specify a price over scrap, most of them would probably jump at the chance to make more money by selling the thing to you whole rather than put the labor into tearing it down to sell as scrap. With commodity prices at their current lows, it wouldn't take much to beat scrap values, with the exception being computers with boards that have heavy gold plating. Circuit boards are currently fetching around maybe $1.70-$2.00/pound, so even old HP gear can be had for very reasonable prices if you make an offer too good to refuse. Let's say a rack of HP 1000 equipment weights 500 pounds, perhaps 75 of which is circuit boards. Offer them $200 for it and they'll probably ask you if they can load it for you. Good hunting. -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org [ Old computing resources for business || Buy/Sell/Trade Vintage Computers ] [ and academia at www.VintageTech.com || at http://marketplace.vintage.org ]

17 years, 3 months

A little more on the HP120 keyaord interface

by ard＠p850ug1.demon.co.uk

As I mentioned in another thread, I spent a little time inside my HP120 today. I've had another look at the keyboard interface. Of the 6 pins on the keyboard connector : 1 is not conencted 2 are +12V and ground 2 are outputs (machine to keybaord) and 1 is an inputer (keyoard to machine) The 2 outputs are a scan clock (pulse to move to the next key in the matrix) and reset (start at the first key again). The input is, of course, to indicate if the selected key is pressed. These logic signals operate ate 12V levels It is electrically indentical to the HP150 (origianl, not 150-II) keyboard interface. To the extent you cao plug an HP150 keyboard into an Hp120 without damage (I have done this after some careful checking). It doesn't work properly because the keyboard matrix is totally differnt (so keys to not produce the characters marked on them, and worse still, some keys don't exist), but it does something. The HP150 keyboard electroncis is quite simple. It consists of 5 4000-seires CMOS chips. A 4024 counter is driven by the 2 outputs from the computer (via diode/resistor protection networks). A couple of 4028 decoders, driven by the counter, with a 4011 gate to inver the D input of one of them, scan the columns of the switch matrix. A 4051 mux, also driven by the counter, cans the rows. And the output of that is is buffered by a couple more 4011 gates and sent back to the computer. By shorting outputs of the decoders to the inputs of the mux, I managed to work out most of the HP120's keyboard matrix. I how have a choice. I either copy the HP150 scan circuit (described above) -- the chips are trivial to get -- and wire up a matrix of switches. Or I make a little interface (presumaly using a microcontroller) to like a PC keyboard to the HP120. -tony

17 years, 3 months

DP8350 (and DP8367)

by aek＠bitsavers.org

> Now, I can find _references_ to the DP8350 data sheet, but not the > complete data sheet. Does anyone have that one? It is in the 1980 IC Master. I will email again when it is on bitsavers.

17 years, 3 months

HP120 keyoard

by ard＠p850ug1.demon.co.uk

I've just picked up an HP120 (Z80 CP/M machine) on Ebay :-). The main prolem (mentioned in the listing I might add, so I am not complaining) is that it's missing the keyoard. The keyboard connector is a 6-pin telephone type socket (RJ12?). A quick look inside (well, what did you expect) suggests the keyboard interface is contrlled by an 8041 microcnntroller and that it works at 12V levels (not RS232, but 0V and +12V). There are +12V and ground pins on the keyboard socket. So I am looking for any/all of the following : 1) The correct HP keyoard (anyone know the model number?) 2) Details of any other keyboards that can be got to work. 3) Technical details of the keyboard interface. -tony

17 years, 3 months

Fox electronics

by brian＠quarterbyte.com

Hi all Anyone have any experience with or know about Fox Electronics in San Jose (and/or Hayward) CA? I just saw their site and I'd never heard of them before. Their web site is pretty disorganized, lots of broken links, formatting problems and missing images. They seem to be an IC recycler/scapper. Anybody know if they have good stuff of interest to retro-geeks? Brian

17 years, 3 months

Fox electronics

by aek＠bitsavers.org

> Anyone have any experience with or know about Fox Electronics > in San Jose Yup, they've been around for a LONG time, though never dealing in retail when I knew them. I had heard that Bob Fox had a serious car accident years ago, I don't know if his brother runs the place now. As you say, they are scrappers /chip pullers. When I was going over there, they had a place on Zanker, a couple of blocks down from where Excess Solutions was. There are lots of scrappers /chip pullers around still in the valley. Most deal only wholesale (ever wonder where Halted gets there stuff?) or just on eBay and really don't like to get walk-in customers.

17 years, 3 months

PDP-8 Adventure on FPP-12 - who's the "local wizard"?

by hachti＠hachti.de

Hi folks, I tried to build and run adventure from Rick Murphy's website: http://www.rickmurphy.net/adventure.html I used the disk image from the page and booted my machine from it. I was able to compile and link everything by means of COMPIL.BI and LOAD.BI. When I want to start the game, I'm asked for the file locations. Then it takes a few seconds (perhaps half a minute?) until the program tells me about "Fatal error 8" - and that I should consult my "local wizard". But who's the local wizard? On SIMH it seems to work. At the moment, I would like to know if it's my machine and it's FPP-12 or the software (perhaps not expecting the presence of a real FPP-12?) which has the problem. SIMH doesn't have a FPP, so I cannot test it :-( I successfully ran maindec-12-dafpa-a-pb (FPP-12 data test) on my system. Compiling small FORTRAN IV programs und running them with the FPP attached seems to be working correctly as well. So are there any known problems? Might there be any problems? Is the adventure game tested with a real FPP-12? Does anyone know an emulator with FPP-12? My system configuration (abbreviated): * PDP-8/e * 32K memory * TD8E DECTape controller * RK8E RK05 controller * Teletype * Some serial ports for Kermit and dumprest If anyone knows anything, please let me know! It would be very good to be sure if I have a hardware problem or not. Don't want to search for a phantom problem. Best wishes, Philipp :-)

17 years, 3 months

looking for HP1650A boot disk image

by winniezj＠gmail.com

Hello, I have a HP 1650A but no boot disk. I just search on web and get you mail about 1650A boot disk. Do you still have the boot disk of 1650A version 1.xx image. I would appreciate for help here. Thank you. -------------- winniezj 2009-03-13

17 years, 3 months

DP8350 (and DP8367)

by dm561＠torfree.net

Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 13:45:35 -0700 From: Al Kossow <aek at bitsavers.org> Subject: Re: DP8350 (and DP8367) >> Now, I can find _references_ to the DP8350 data sheet, but not the >> complete data sheet. Does anyone have that one? >It is in the 1980 IC Master. I will email again when it is on bitsavers. -- It's also in the 1980 National Interface Databook; actually the DP8350 'series', but only the 8350, 8352 and 8353 are covered. As Al says, they're pretty well the same chips electrically but with different display parameters. mike

17 years, 3 months

MicroPDP Deskside pedestal wanted

by rescue＠hawkmountain.net

I have a PDP that was pulled from a rack (of which I don't have)... rather than running it 'bared skin'... I'd like to find a deskside pedestal to put it in. Anyone have one they care to give up/sell/trade/etc ? -- Curt

17 years, 3 months

PDP-11 configurations (was Re: PDP 11/44)

by ethan.dicks＠gmail.com

On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 10:20 PM, James Fogg <james at jdfogg.com> wrote: >> This does bring up an interesting question. ?What percentage of people >> with >> PDP-11's have Unibus PDP-11's. ?Also of the people that do have Unibus >> PDP-11's, how many have a large number of PDP-11's? > > Q-bus PDP-11/23 in the Dec half-height cabinet with 2 RL02's (a common > configuration apparently). Yes... a common 1980s small office configuration. Pretty big for a single-user RT-11 system of the day (I was using a single RL01 for my OS and development environment and a single RL02 for customer data in 1986). Not so bad for a small RSX-11 or small RSTS environment (we were using a machine with only 4 RL02s for a RSTS-based accounting system for a multi-million-dollar company in 1984). > It came with two VT-100's and a LA36 DecWriter II. Sounds like a small RSX-11 or small RSTS system, then, or perhaps it was used with TSX-11. One doesn't usually see multiple terminals with RT-11. > My second PDP is an 11/73 in a desk-side case (is that the microPDP-11/73?) The MicroPDP machines I've seen are in a BA23 (could be racked, could be in a desk-side pedestal), with a 1" MicroPDP nameplate near the power switch. It's spring-loaded, so you can pull it out and turn it 90 degrees for upright or racked orientation. > My college gave me a PDP-8 in a full rack with a fixed disk... Oooh... nice. What disk? RF08? RK05F? > but I had to re-home that when I moved out of my parents home and into an apartment. At > the time they weren't particularly collectible or uncommon. I've begged > the new owner several times to consider returning it, or at least leaving > it to me in his will. Good luck on that. I myself held onto a Quest Elf for a friend who had to purge his place when he got married. I returned it to him many years later when he was divorced. He was 16 when he built it and its hand-made aluminum case and extra I/O to control the robot it sat at the top of. He was quite happy to get it back in perfectly working condition after so many years. I was happy for the use of it over those same years. -ethan

17 years, 3 months

VCF West 2009

by legalize＠xmission.com

So did we ever learn anything about VCF West 2009? I had emailed Sellam a while back but haven't heard back. In fact, when Sellam wanted someone to rescue that Microdata Reality machine in Sandy, UT, I emailed him but didn't get a reply to that either. Was the machine rescued? This was Sellam's original message: In article <Pine.LNX.4.61.0902050149350.13109 at vintagetech.com>, Sellam Ismail <sellam at vintagetech.com> writes: > There is a Microdata Reality in Sandy, Utah that needs a new home. > This > is a large and heavy early- to mid-1970s mini in a 6 foot cabinet. > > Please contact me directly if you're interested and I'll pass along > the > contact info. -- "The Direct3D Graphics Pipeline" -- DirectX 9 draft available for download <http://www.xmission.com/~legalize/book/download/index.html> Legalize Adulthood! <http://blogs.xmission.com/legalize/>

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