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by mouse＠Rodents-Montreal.ORG

A friend-of-a-friend who's leaving not just the city, not just the country, but the continent, dropped a C=64 system on me. But I am not really into the 8-bitters; to me it would be just an amusing toy, and I daresay there are plenty of people here to whom it would be a lot more than that. It seems moderately complete, to me, and in fairly good shape for a system that old. (Going by the pictures Dave Dunfield has up on www.classiccmp.org, this is definitely the original C=64, not a C64C.) There's the keyboard/CPU unit, one 1541 disk drive (ie, 5?" floppy), a Commodore-branded monitor, two joysticks, power brick, at least a few disks of software, a bag of cables - I can go through and do a complete inventory if it matters. I haven't tried plugging it all together and testing it, though I certainly can if it might make the difference to anyone. Cosmetic condition is pretty good for a computer its age - not NIB-level pristine, of course, but it's obviously spent a lot of time either being well cared for or sitting protected on a shelf. :-) Yours for picking up in downtown Montreal. I can probably bring it to Ottawa if that would help; most months see me do at least three round trips. I could probably be persuaded to ship if necessary, but I'd naturally enough prefer to avoid that. /~\ The ASCII Mouse \ / Ribbon Campaign X Against HTML mouse at rodents-montreal.org / \ Email! 7D C8 61 52 5D E7 2D 39 4E F1 31 3E E8 B3 27 4B

17 years, 2 months

Keyboard Kache in Kalifornia

by trixter＠oldskool.org

Saw this on another forum. I don't know what the prices actually are, but if you're in California maybe you can get to this person: --begin-- title: IBM Clicky Keyboards 30+ and MORE XT AT Style KBs & Apple ADB The title says it. We are shutting our business and have to be out of the warehouse by April 13. We have at 30 plus vintage IBM clicky keyboards and many many more AT XT style keyboards, all with the big round DIN connector. I'm asking $200 for all of IBM clickies and as many more as you can take out for $50 more. We literally have hundreds of keyboards. Mostly vintage, but some are newer PS/2 keyboards if you need them. $250 and you can haul every keyboard we have --- well leave me half a dozen newer "old" PS/2 and a couple Clickies I have at my work bench. THE CATCH. We will not ship. You must come pick them up at our warehouse in Oxnard Calif, on the coast about an hour north of Los Angeles. APPLE? Did you say Apple ADB keyboards.?. We have those too. They all go for that same $250. Call Bob 805 486-0087 before we shut off the phone How serious is this? We just got rid of over 6000 -- 3 tons of computer monitors. We have to be out by the 13th of April. ---end--- -- Jim Leonard (trixter at oldskool.org) http://www.oldskool.org/ Help our electronic games project: http://www.mobygames.com/ Or check out some trippy MindCandy at http://www.mindcandydvd.com/ A child borne of the home computer wars: http://trixter.wordpress.com/

17 years, 2 months

Hacked up power supplies

by mbbrutman-cctalk＠brutman.com

A while back there was a funny thread about a person who was making C64 power supplies by putting wall warts in an enclosure and selling them as professional grade. I came across my own questionable homemade power suppy recently. The picture is here: http://brutman.com/2009_0329_161949.jpg This is supposed to feed an expanded PCjr that has two power inputs. It looks like somebody broke open two PCjr power bricks and wired them in parallel to one line cord, then glued the bottom of the exposed bricks to keep them from bouncing around in the metal enclosure. To me, this looks really ugly, and I'm suprised that somebody went to this depth. The frames of the transformers were grounded, but the box itself was not grounded. I like the concept, I just don't like the way it was executed. It will never look pretty, but is there a way to make it safe? Is it enough to secure the transformers to the box in a more robust way, and then connect the box to the ground, or should I just be thinking about recycling the components? Mike

17 years, 2 months

From Jay: news archive status

by frustum＠pacbell.net

----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Battle" <frustum at pacbell.net> To: "Jay West" Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2009 7:23 PM Subject: archive > Jay, > > There has been a spate of cctalk emails about the archive not being > online "for weeks." Perhaps it is because of the server migration you > are doing, but I thought I'd mention it to you in case it is not > expected. > > Thanks Yep, archives are down temporarily because I'm having trouble with the mailing list move. They have a choice - either the mailing list is down for a while or the archives are. Nice to know they appreciate my work. "For weeks"? Let the loudest complainer have the root password and do it himself.

17 years, 2 months

I [don't] hate E-Bay (was Cromemco 68000 on ebay)

by marvin＠west.net

From: "Barry Watzman" <Watzman at neo.rr.com> > First, re: "I hate [ebay] because it defrauded me in 2005", that is, in all > probability, BS. E-Bay didn't defraud you, the other party (buyer or > seller) did. E-Bay is not a principal to the transaction; it is merely a > venue for bringing buyers and sellers together. > > Second, IF YOU KNOW HOW TO USE E-BAY, it is EXTREMELY safe. > There are a surprising number of people with an aversion to E-Bay. That's > their loss, because it's one of the greatest things that the Internet has > brought us, both as buyers and as sellers. First, my comments are being made as a FORMER small seller, and a very rare buyer. oBay is the point of last resort when I need to buy something. They USED to be one of the greatest things the Internet has brought us, and it is their *past* reputation that continues to attract people. After about starting on ebay in 1997, I quit using them for several reasons. The main reason is they put in quite a number of what *I* consider to be unreasonable seller demands with absolutely no accountability on their part. Ebay is NOT, I repeat NOT just a venue!!!! To think it is "just" a venue is absurd. And just to make it clear, I'm not attacking you, but rather your comment. I've heard too many stories of fraudulent transactions with the ebay position being that it is not their problem. Just one example would be a friend of mine (president of an amateur radio club at the time) had a mint condition CD donated to their club. It was sold on oBay with PayPal, a SNAD dispute was files, the box was returned and the buyer got their money back. The box contained a junker and not the original radio. Both oBay and PayPal said it was not their problem. I really don't like gambling, and consider the use of that site for selling nothing more than a crap shoot. The changes will continue, and the small seller has no place on the site except as a scavanger. It should also be pointed out that my comments refer to small sellers. The larger sellers will absorb any problems which probably aren't even a blip on their radar screens. BTW, money orders are fine with most sellers, but the (mis)management team prohibits sellers from letting buyers know. But that same (mis)management tracks paper payments, and will sanction sellers that take too many paper payments. Yup, you did hit a hot button with your comments :).

17 years, 2 months

Looking for an 8 bit HD controller

by silvercreekvalley＠yahoo.com

Does anyone have a spare 8 bit ISA hard-disk controller, something that would work in a IBM XT. The current controller is damaged, and always reports '1701' when the XT boots. I've tried known good hard-drives without success so I'm pretty sure its the controller. Please contact me of list. Thanks Ian.

17 years, 2 months

I [don't] hate E-Bay (was Cromemco 68000 on ebay)

by Watzman＠neo.rr.com

E-Bay now requires buyers to accept Pay-Pal, and forbids them from advertising that they will take any other form of payment. So I if you look at one of my auctions, it says Pay-Pal and doesn't list any other form of payment. BUT .... that doesn't mean that a buyer won't take another form of payment, indeed, if a customer asks me if I will take a money order .... of course I will, I don't have to pay the Pay-Pal fees if he sends a money order. And almost every other E-Bay seller will do the same. [it's "dicier" if you want to send a personal check, for obvious reasons] I'd like to see someone challenge their policies on this on anti-trust grounds (for those of you who don't know this, E-Bay owns Pay-Pal], but so far it hasn't happened. If you have your own private credit card account with a bank and can take credit cards DIRECTLY, they will allow you to do that (and advertise it) instead of Pay-Pal.

17 years, 2 months

Looking for internals docs for an IBM 7861-015 modem

by ethan.dicks＠gmail.com

Hi, All, Going through a pile of stuff in the basement, I uncovered a hamfest find from a couple of years back - a short stack of frontpanels for an IBM leased-line modem. I picked them up because they have a 4x5 keypad with the keys marked 0-F (and a row of blanks). That alone made them worth it, but having looked at them in detail, it might be fun to adapt them as is rather than part them out. Cursory examination reveals o a 16x1 VDF display with "british flag" segments o the aforementioned 4x5 keypad o several DIP parts that may be equivalent to ULN2803s that seem to drive the VFD segments o some sort of TI-branded 40-pin DIP microcontroller o a 34-pin pigtail cable to the modem Since most of the cable pins are clearly grounds and Vcc, there appears to only be about 12-14 non-power signals which disappear into the microcontroller and the (I think) transistor arrays. What I'm hoping to find is any sort of documentation that might reveal to me how the modem MPU drives the front panel. I don't have the modem, so I can't scope the signals. I can produce a reverse-engineered schematic from the real board up to a point, but a mysterious MCU is difficult to scope out. Worst case, these were worth the $1 I paid for them just for the parts. Best case, I can stick some sort of MCU on the 34-pin connector and talk to that from a "real" computer. Second best case, I could dike out the TI MCU and wire something in its place. So... google did not reveal any obvlous locations. Does anyone know of any secret repository of IBM hardware docs? Thanks, -ethan

17 years, 2 months

anyone know how to run maindec-11 papertapes?

by brad＠heeltoe.com

Does anyone know how to run maindec-11 diagnostic paper tapes? Say I wanted to run maindec-11-dfkaa-b1-pb which is an 11/34 cpu test. I know I could run xxdp, but if I had no disk and I wanted to run the test from paper tape, what's the procedure? Naturally I'd like to try it on simh first... Is there a manual for the maindec diags anywhere on line? thanks, -brad

17 years, 2 months

looking for a good HP to industry std. part number list.

by g-wright＠att.net

I'm been working on a HP 3000-37 and I can't find a list that gives the ROM size or industry std. numbering for the ROMs. These have the HP # 1818-3449. I would also like to find some tech. manuals for the same, but I'm probably dreaming again Thanks, Jerry Jerry Wright g-wright at att.net

17 years, 2 months

plm86 compiler

by jefferwin＠gmail.com

I am looking for a plm86 compiler, one that runs under ISIS. I could also use a C compiler for the 8086 that generates Intel hex format. Can onyone point me in the right direction? Jeff Erwin

17 years, 2 months

CC list archives can be found at marc.info

by dzubint＠vcn.bc.ca

FYI: Current Classiccmp cctalk archives can be found at the marc.info website. http://marc.info/?l=classiccmp&r=1&w=2

17 years, 2 months

Fwd: [alt.sys.pdp11] Update on PDP11GUI - a graphical development environme

by legalize＠xmission.com

This message has been forwarded from Usenet. To reply to the original author, use the email address from the forwarded message. Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 21:16:30 +0200 Groups: alt.sys.pdp11 From: =?ISO-8859-15?Q?J=F6rg_Hoppe?= <j_hoppe at t-online.de> Org: T-Online Subject: Update on PDP11GUI - a graphical development environment for PDP -11 Id: <gqoheq$3bt$02$2 at news.t-online.com> ======== Now PDP11GUI version 1.24.1 is ready. New features are: - Access to PDP-11 disks over a downloadable driver. Disk images can be read and written from/to disk file. Currently support for RL01/02, MSCP, RM disks, more to follow. Read more: http://www.j-hoppe.de/PDP-11/PDP11GUI/Disk_images_read_write/disk_images_re… rite.html - "Memory Dumper" window: memory content can be written to disk file (the old version only had a "Memory Loader") - you can bring your own MACRO-11 assembler. - minor changes and enhancements - bug fixes It will always be free for non-commercial use, download at http://www.j-hoppe.de/PDP-11/Resources/setup.exe Mandatory documentation at www.j-hoppe.de/pdp11gui.html As always, feedback is welcome! Mail to j_hoppe on t-online.de Enjoy! Joerg Hoppe

17 years, 2 months

CC list archives?

by sellam＠vintagetech.com

Is the CC list still active? If so, does anyone know what happened to the archives? They are currently 404. I sent an e-mail to Jay, but as usual he did not respond. I'll probably get a response in 6 months. This is not meant as a slam against Jay since I'm much worse :( Anyway, just checking, since my only conduit to CC is through the archives. In fact, I won't know if anyone responds to this inquiry since I have delivery set to off. If anyone knows anything and wouldn't mind shooting me a private message I would appreciate that greatly. -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org [ Old computing resources for business || Buy/Sell/Trade Vintage Computers ] [ and academia at www.VintageTech.com || at http://marketplace.vintage.org ]

17 years, 2 months

I [don't] hate E-Bay (was Cromemco 68000 on ebay)

by chrism3667＠yahoo.com

the internet could have *brought* us any number of things. One party organized and brought us eBay. For the most part it's a racket. Sure someone low on cash can get more money for an item then they otherwise would have dreamed of (can you say vintage computer?). But there methods of dealing with issues is atrocious, for instance this recent piece of debauchery (see I'm becoming incoherent) where a seller is prevented from reporting truthful feedback about an atrocious bidder. It is, of course, the seller's fault when people refuse to read through a listing, then refuse to pay, THEN get to leave you negative feedback. ?My rating is about 71 I think. But I've participated in HUNDREDS of transactions. The reason my score is so low - I utterly REFUSE to play the one hand washes the other game. I think I left negative feedback once (really really wanted to another time, but couldn't). I guess though that that particular debacle isn't ePay's fault (coercion). ?I'll utilize from time to time, but personally I'd cackle w/laughter if their stock values suddenly plummeted. And this is coming from a rather unapologetic conservative Republican (for the most part). All brokers will have their part in the lake that burneth w/fire and w/brimstone. --- On Sun, 3/29/09, Barry Watzman <Watzman at neo.rr.com> wrote: From: Barry Watzman <Watzman at neo.rr.com> Subject: I [don't] hate E-Bay (was Cromemco 68000 on ebay) To: cctech at classiccmp.org Date: Sunday, March 29, 2009, 2:36 PM I am a "Power Seller" with over 10 years on E-Bay, probably 5,000 transactions, but I am not a business and most of my activity is buying, not selling. First, re: "I hate [ebay] because it defrauded me in 2005", that is, in all probability, BS.? E-Bay didn't defraud you, the other party (buyer or seller) did.? E-Bay is not a principal to the transaction; it is merely a venue for bringing buyers and sellers together. Second, IF YOU KNOW HOW TO USE E-BAY, it is EXTREMELY safe.? Most of the sellers (and buyers) are honest, more than 99% I'd say.? If you pay through Pay-Pal with a credit card, you have about 3 levels of protection even if the seller is fraudulent:? E-Bay, Pay-Pal and your credit card company.? You do have to know how to use the various systems to protect yourself; you can look at a seller's history, and about the comments that people who have dealt with that seller previously have left about their transactions.? If you educate yourself about how to use E-Bay, it is quite safe.? Is it perfectly, totally safe?? No, of course not (neither is any other marketplace), and getting issues resolved when they do occur can be a hassle and can take months and require that you be persistent and well organized. There are a surprising number of people with an aversion to E-Bay.? That's their loss, because it's one of the greatest things that the Internet has brought us, both as buyers and as sellers. Barry Watzman

17 years, 2 months

Tandon TM848E

by spedraja＠ono.com

Hello. I am searching for one or a couple of Tandon TM848E eight inch floppies. I got one SGS system with CP/M and a couple of these, and at least one of them appears to have problems with the motor. Offers off-list if available. Thanks and Greetings Sergio

17 years, 2 months

Update on PDP11GUI - a graphical development environment for PDP-11

by j_hoppe＠t-online.de

Now PDP11GUI version 1.24.1 is ready. New features are: - Access to PDP-11 disks over a downloadable driver. Disk images can be read and written from/to disk file. Currently support for RL01/02, MSCP, RM disks, more to follow. Read more: http://www.j-hoppe.de/PDP-11/PDP11GUI/Disk_images_read_write/disk_images_re… - "Memory Dumper" window: memory content can be written to disk file (the old version only had a "Memory Loader") - you can bring your own MACRO-11 assembler. - minor changes and enhancements - bug fixes It will always be free for non-commercial use, download at http://www.j-hoppe.de/PDP-11/Resources/setup.exe Mandatory documentation at www.j-hoppe.de/pdp11gui.html As always, feedback is welcome! Mail to j_hoppe on t-online.de Enjoy! Joerg Hoppe

17 years, 2 months

Tekelec Chameleon software

by rikbos＠xs4all.nl

I have a Tekelec Chameleon but no software. Before I scrap it is there anyone who has the software or some one who want to takes this from me ? -Rik

17 years, 2 months

Free MCA stuff

by lproven＠gmail.com

By the way, if this is not the place, do let me know. Peter Wendt's MCA site seems to have gone & I don't know any other points for MCA collectors or fans - but if anyone does, do please let me know! -- Liam Proven ? Profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/liamproven Email: lproven at cix.co.uk ? GMail/GoogleTalk/Orkut: lproven at gmail.com Tel: +44 20-8685-0498 ? Cell: +44 7939-087884 ? Fax: + 44 870-9151419 AOL/AIM/iChat/Yahoo/Skype: liamproven ? LiveJournal/Twitter: lproven MSN: lproven at hotmail.com ? ICQ: 73187508

17 years, 2 months

Cromemco 68000 on ebay

by dm561＠torfree.net

Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 23:08:04 -0500 From: Randy Dawson <rdawson16 at hotmail.com> Subject: Cromemco 68000 on ebay >I thought I recall some of you guys looking for one of these, in a few chats last week. >I'd buy it, but I dont have a system (anybody have one they would sell to to a fellow vintage fan?) >Randy >ebay, $40 at present, 250394374739 ---------- By all means, bid it up! I know the seller, and he realized that he'd rather keep it but he'd already had offers so he's going to buy a replacement from me for whatever he sells it for ;-) ---------- >From: David Griffith <dgriffi at cs.csubak.edu> >Nifty! It's not like the ones I have previously sold. Those had a 68000 >and an MMU or a socket for one. I don't think they were Cromemco's; they had the DPU (Dual, 68000 and Z80) that's on eBay, the XPU (68010) which is running beside me as we speak, and the XXU (68020, FPU, RTC) which is out on my porch, but when they needed an MMU (for UNIX) it was always on a separate card AFAIK. mike

17 years, 2 months

cctalk archive is not accessible

by vax9000＠gmail.com

Excuse me if somebody has reported this problem. I did not subscribe to receive emails, and depended solely on the archive. But the archive has not been accessible for weeks. vax9000

17 years, 2 months

Classiccmp web-accessible mailing list archive down?

by dzubint＠vcn.bc.ca

I actually prefer to read the classiccmp discussions via the web archive http://www.classiccmp.org/pipermail/cctalk/ But it hasn't been accessible for the past week. Does anyone know what's going on? Thomas PDP-11 Dzubin Calgary, Saskatoon, or Vancouver CANADA

17 years, 2 months

language misuse (Was: laser scope

by dm561＠torfree.net

Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 20:56:36 +0000 (GMT) From: ard at p850ug1.demon.co.uk (Tony Duell) Subject: Re: language misuse (Was: laser scope >Ypu have to have new words for new ideas/concepts/devices, etc. That is >not the problem. The prolem comes when there's a perfectly good word with >a precise meaning and j-random-luser insists on misusing it to mean >something differnt (for which there is also a perfectly good word already) >-tony ------------ Well, you've certainly introduced a lot of new words for which there were boring perfectly good ones already... Ypu, prolem, U-shapped, rounf, corem, rocke? I particularly liked 'solder-blo' and 'sings of sparks;' they all take my mind off on amusing little side-trips... Would you like me to send you a better keyboard? A big ;-) mike

17 years, 2 months

Need VMS media for Itanium

by ssj152＠centurytel.net

I've just purchased a small Itanium server, a HP RX2600. I see that it will run Windows Server, Linux, and best of all - OpenVMS. Since there isn't a hobby distribution for 8.3-x (both OS and Layered Products), will someone with the current media who is willing to share please contact me off-list? I will gladly provide media and pay postage, etc. I am a LONG time member of DECUS, and later Encompass and a member on the hobbyist site. I joined DECUS in 1981 when I was working with PDP-11's. I've been working with VAXen since 1983, and more recently Alpha's. This Itanium will be a new and welcome (I hope) experience for me. I miss VAX assembler, it was like programming in a high-level language compared to anything else I've worked with. Thanks in advance, Stuart J., on list as ssj152

17 years, 2 months

Looking for early versions of MicroVMS & VWS

by robert.jarratt＠ntlworld.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk- > bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Robert Jarratt > Sent: 27 March 2009 23:38 > To: 'General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts' > Subject: RE: Looking for early versions of MicroVMS & VWS > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk- > > bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of H?lscher > > Sent: 24 March 2009 17:43 > > To: cctalk at classiccmp.org > > Subject: Looking for early versions of MicroVMS & VWS > > > > WANTED - Early Versions of: > > > > - MicroVMS V1.0 (later renamed to V4.0) V4.1, V4.1M, V4.2 > > - VWS (VAX/VMS Workstation Software) V1.1, V2.0, V3.0 > > > > Help please, I want to run my MicroVAX I/IIs on contemporary > software! > > > > Any media (TK50 tape cartridge, RX50 floppies, 9-track tape, ...) , > any > > condition (Installation media, BACKUP Save Sets, Disk/Tape Images, > ...) > > > > Regards, > > > > Ulli > > > > P.S. > > I can help out with other old VAX software > > I too would like to find media for an older version of VMS, as I > recently > acquired a MicroVAX II. It has an RD53, but I think it does not work as > it > whines and the machine won't boot from it, even though I believe it is > supposed to have a version of Ultrix on it. I am in the process of > trying to > setup a cluster and see if I can boot the machine from a DEQNA I bought > recently as well, but that will be VMS 7.3 and I would like to have an > older > version for old-times sake and also so that I can fit it onto the disk, > if > it works, or onto another RD53 or RD54 if I can get hold of one. > > Regards > > Rob I am now succeeding in getting MOP on my boot server to serve NISCS_LOAD.EXE to my MicroVAX II but I then get ?4F SCBINT "Unexpected SCB exception or machine check". This might be because I am loading NISCS_LOAD.EXE from VMS 7.3 and my MicroVAX II only has a DEQNA which I believe 7.3 does not support. I believe I may need a version of VMS prior 5.0, so if anyone does have media for older versions that they can make available that would be great (don't need necessarily need physical media). Thanks Rob

17 years, 2 months

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