A question for those of you who play with Hercules... Are twinax cards
supported under Linux such that a 5250 terminal can be connected and work?
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David Griffith
dgriffi at cs.csubak.edu
A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
A: Top-posting.
Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?
Not sure how separate classicmp pdp8 readers are from alt.sys.pdp8/pdp8-lovers
readers so trying here also. Nothing new if you saw it previously.
Does anyone have 4k BASIC or Spacewar? Poly BASIC, DECUS 8-195 seems to be 4k.
I think Edusystem 10/15 BASIC also ran in 4k.
I think there also was a 4k Poly Spacewar. I have this one which is 4k but
it doesn't have gravity etc.
/ SPACE WAR
/
/ INTERPLANETARY DEATH AND DESTRUCTION ON YOUR
/ LAB-8
/
/ EVAN SUITS
My desktop straight 8 is missing the wood side panels so I want to make
some. I took pictures and measurements of MARCH's but I can't remember if
they were real wood veneer or imitation laminate.
Does anybody know more or can look closely at their's? Online seems to
think it was rosewood but doesn't say if it was real wood. One reply on
pdp8-lovers said the desktop panels were imitation and another said the
rackmount were real.
Did current stright 8 owners do margin checks and if so what margins are
reasonable to shoot for? The manual doesn't seem to clearly say.
The last is the DF32 with the straight 8 has modified W103 device selectors.
It seems that they were modified from pulse amp outputs to DC coupled
level outputs. Has anyone seen this done before?
http://www.pdp8online.com/dfds32/pics/w103-mod.shtml?small
(next picture is schematic).
I'm still working on getting the drive running so haven't seen if they work
ok.
The Amateur Computer Society (ACS) was founded by Stephen B. Gray in May, 1966. The ACS was for those who "are building or operating a homemade computer from their home". An interesting requirement was that the computer had to at least perform "automatic multiplication and division". In practice, membership was open to anyone who had a "serious" digital computer operating from their home. In my case that included a RPC-4000 ;-)
Since I had been a member of the ACS, I had searched everywhere online for the complete set of ACS Newsletters - and found only isolated copies of individual newsletters.
I did find that Stephen Gray had donated his original complete set to the Babbage Institute. Subsequently, I did a detailed search of the Computer History Museum's (CHM) archives via their Collections Department. I was excited to find that the CHM also had a complete set of the ACS Newsletter. I requested that they scan and make a PDF copy (including OCR) of same - and for a modest scanning fee they did so. It is now available to the world (free) via CHM's website:
http://www.computerhistory.org/collections/accession/102654910
Go to the bottom of the page where there is a link to the PDF.
For those who would like to know the earliest history of "home computers", I think you'll find it a fascinating read...
Cheers,
Lyle
--
Lyle Bickley, AF6WS
Bickley Consulting West Inc.
http://bickleywest.com
"Black holes are where God is dividing by zero"
All,
an humble suggestion:
1) Use cheap pine with a nice stain to make some "temporary" panels
2) plant a rosewood tree
3) maintain the machine for ~100 years
4) cut down your rosewood tree, make "real" panels out of it, and
sell the excess rosewood to pay for electricity to run the machine.
5) meantime and most important, get back to classic-computer
discussions on this list
PS:
Philip H., you are absolutely positively the man! I thought
nothing could change the currently sagging signal/noise ratio on the
list and my heart sank when I saw the 87k archive ... but then!
/ SPACE WAR
/
/ INTERPLANETARY DEATH AND DESTRUCTION ON YOUR
/ LAB-8/E
....
Now *that* is the kind of post we need more of! Right on!
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- Mark 210-379-4635
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Large Asteroids headed toward planets
inhabited by beings that don't have
technology adequate to stop them:
Think of it as Evolution in Fast-Forward.
> You're looking for the spacewar you're citing above?
>
> I currently don't know where I have the original source - I modified it
> to fit my LAB-8/e Real time clock and a pair of joysticks....
>
Thanks for an on topic reply :-). I have the original of that version but
its stripped down enough that its only sort of spacewar. I had heard there
was a better 4k version and was hoping someone had it.
I'm going with laminate, can we let the other thread die?
Because when the environment has been destroyed and there's no place that the "damn" trees will grow then you can't plant them successfully.
You guys are pathetic.? As I said before, is it so difficult to think about where materials come from?
Regards, Jim
Hey folks. Does anyone here have a set of rack slides of the sort
used by DEC RX01 and RX02 drives that they might be willing to part with
on short notice? I'm willing to pay for them of course, but I'd like to
keep it reasonable. :)
Thanks,
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
> A bit hampered on that through lack of German and not wanting to sign up for
> a German web site. ?Jim Austin http://www.computermuseum.org.uk/ was asking
> who owns it? Any pointers any one.
I have known about this pile for a few years now, and I have not been
able to pin down who owns it, or if anything is being done to save it,
past Computer History Museum's haul. At least they pulled some great
stuff out.
Most of it at this point looks like scrap, but I would like to see
that CDC 841 disk system saved, even if it was a dog when new. Also
the CDC tape and printer, and I suppose the comm unit.
--
Will
Rather than simply rekindle this annual discussion, I've decided to create a
data point.
So, you can read about (and download) an experimental PDP-8 C compiler at:
http://www.so-much-stuff.com/pdp8/C/C.php
I thought about delaying this notice until the first, but decided that since
there
really is a compiler of sorts there, that it would be more appropriate to do it
now.
Comments about the design decisions, improvements for the code, etc. are all
welcome.
Vince
--
o< The ASCII Ribbon Campaign Against HTML Email!
I have a lead on an IBM 083 card sorter, located on the east coast. I
do not know the condition. I had hoped it was an 084, but no such
luck, and I already have two 083s. Any interest out there?
--
Will
Anyone;
I have an HP 5036A Microprocessor Trainer that I need two PC Edge
connectors for. These are used to "Expand" the 8085 based trainer (without
soldering right to the motherboard). The Gotcha is that these 44 pin, 22
position edge connectors are for thick, 3/32", .09375 boards. TRW?CINCH
251-22-30-341 ? Do you have any idea of a resource/lead where I could find
these? ? I have tried CINCH, Mouser, DigiKey, Ebay, Electronic Surpuls
sales, etc. with no luck. ?
Thanks in advance for your kind response.??
Tom K.?
> From:?Richard <legalize at xmission.com>
> Date:?Sat, 24 Mar 2012 13:21:06 -0600
> Subject:?Re: Computer Graphics Museum collection pics
>> > From: Richard <legalize at xmission.com>
>> > Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2012 10:24:15 -0600
>>
>> > however. ?Do you have documentation on them? ?User manuals? Service
>> > manuals?
>>
>> We have boxes and boxes and boxes of documentation and spares.
>
> Any chance those can be scanned and put online for me to look at?
We know where the boxes of documentation are so we can look for
manuals that describe the capabilities of the systems. If we have
duplicate manuals we could send them to Al to be scanned.
--
Michael Thompson
> From:?Nick Allen <nick.allen at comcast.net>
> Date:?Sat, 24 Mar 2012 10:15:02 -0500
> Subject:?PIXAR Image Computer Panel Museum Display on Ebay
> PIXAR's first computer used to make portions of the 3d short (Red's Dream) is now on Ebay (wife refuses to let me keep it and hang it on our wall).
>
> Thought you might be interested in it, here is the link:
>
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/PIXAR-Image-Computer-Panel-Framed-Museum-Piece-RARE… <http://www.ebay.com/itm/PIXAR-Image-Computer-Panel-Framed-Museum-Piece-RARE…>
We have a system with what I think is the same from panel at the RICM.
I will take some pictures next weekend and put them on the RICM WWW
page.
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Michael Thompson
----- Original Message:
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 00:42:15 -0400
From: Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com>
>> Of course, nowadays well whales are very nearly extinct...
> This is one of the most bizarrely obscure tidbits of information I've
> ever seen come across this list. How do you come to know about this? I
> am just curious.
-Dave
-----
So am I, and also pleasantly surprised; I was under the impression that well
whales had been completely extinct for at least thirty years.
m
Hi,
at the Weekend I've got an Vaxstation 4000/90 with 64MB RAM and a
2,1GB Disc from a friend.
Powered it up today and found a Problem.
The Machine doesn't start properly if it is switched on, the LEDs are all
stuck on (0xff). If I switch it off then and on again in a short time, it
starts up properly, is doing the diagnostics and tries to boot an
(defective?) NetBSD 1.1 that is loading the kernel but is getting then in a
?54 RETRY loop.
Pressing the HALT Switch brings up the chevron... havn't tried to install
something jet...
Is that Error with the Reset/Startup known to someone here? I think it
could be an dead capacitor in the PSU...
Kind Regards,
Holm
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Technik Service u. Handel Tiffe, www.tsht.de, Holm Tiffe,
Freiberger Stra?e 42, 09600 Obersch?na, USt-Id: DE253710583
www.tsht.de, info at tsht.de, Fax +49 3731 74200, Mobil: 0172 8790 741
> JC White <jcw1231 at pacbell.net> wrote:
>
>>Until a few years ago I had a Wang 2200 MVP.? When I was using it in my high school classroom an administrator had the room cleaned and moved the system outside.? A sudden storm destroyed the CPU and drives.? I have several working Wang 2236 terminals if somebody has a need for one.? Also, I would like to locate a 2200 MVP to play with again.? I am also looking for homes for a pair of Wang PCs from about 1990, two different models, one set up for networking.
>>
>>John
We have a Wang 2200 VP, and another 2200 that I don't know the the
version. Unfortunately, one of our members is always looking for more
Wang equipment so we have lots of Wang equipment.
http://www.ricomputermuseum.org/wang-computer-gallery-2/wang-gallery-models
--
Michael Thompson
After a lot of aggravation trying to get one working TRS-80 Model II, by
cobbling together parts from three other machines, I've finally got one
mostly working.
I wanted to get my own programs running on it, cross-developed on a
Linux system. Model II TRSDOS 2.0 and later have a built-in "receive"
command that can receive Intel hex format from the serial port, which
can then be saved to a disk file with the "dump" command. The serial
port on my CPU card was broken. After swapping that card, which I intend
to troubleshoot later, I found that the receive command won't work
reliably above 2400 bps. (Maybe it would work at higher bit rates if
the sending computer used a long inter-character delay.)
I packaged up z80asm and z80dasm for Fedora Linux and Red Hat Enterprise
Linux 6, and submitted them to the repositories. After verifying that I
can get cross-assembled code to run, I set my sights on cross-compiling
C code.
I had to hack up crt0.s, putchar.s, and a linker script to work for the
Model II TRSDOS environment (which is almost entirely unlike TRSDOS for
the Model I/III/4), but it is finally working.
The machine I've got working is actually a Model 16, but I don't yet
have the 68K subsystem working. When I try to load TRSDOS16, it says
that it has loaded, but immediately gets an exception at address 0.
Xenix just hangs with no output.
I've got a diagnostic disk that purports to be for the Model II and 16,
but it has a lot of bad tracks, so I can't actually run the Model 16
diagnostics. Does anyone have a good copy of the Model 16 diagnostic disk?
The disk drives in the Model 16 don't work. The spindle speed of drive
0 seems to be way off, and I'm not sure what's wrong with drive 1.
Right now I'm using two other drives sitting outside the case, because I
haven't figured out how to get the drives out of the Model 16. It
appears that the machine has to be taken apart much further than I'd
hoped in order to remove the drives. :-(
Eric
I recently picked up an RX50 for my MicroVAX II. It does not have the cable
with it to connect to the BA123 distribution board, however it seems to fit
a traditional PC floppy disk cable, is that all it needs?
Thanks
Rob
Hi all --
Acquired a Terak 8510/a today in pieces, sans Keyboard and Monitor (but
with external 8512 drive). Anyone have spares for this system that
they'd be willing to part with?
Thanks as always,
Josh