... another classic service dies... first Gopher (Archie, etc) now
Ceefax (teletext)!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ceefax
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From: Jos Dreesen <jdr_use at bluewin.ch>
Subject: Iomega ZIP programming manual ?
> Probably borderline for CCtalk,
> but does anyone have a proper programming manual for the
> Iomega ZIP drive ( 100MB atapi version ) ?
> I need to know exactly which ATAPI commands have been implemented.
To paraphrase a famous Jedi knight "use the source, Luke!"
The Linux driver source code
is probably the closest thing to documentation
This mentions what parts to look for:
http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-mini/ZIP-Drive.html
(sorry I don't have a better URL.
I've rarely needed to find Linux source code)
I never allowed ZIP drives in my house
but I tried using 1 gig JAZ drives.
I ruined them by trying the SCSI low-level format command on them.
The cartridge was unuseable after that.
I suspect ZIP drives & cartridges are similar:
DO NOT LOW LEVEL FORMAT!
-- jeffj
Its in NE Philadelphia. You must come deinstall and haul away. Time
is very short. If you are interested and can come and remove very soon
email me and I will give you the contact information. I have no more
knowledge, just forwarding the info. It's unclear if they will want
some $ for it.
[VMS Internals Books e.g. Kenah Goldenberg & Bate]
> I haven't seen that specific book, but in general such books usually
> tell what the software does, but not the engineering trade-offs that led
> to it being done that way as opposed to some other way, which seems to
> be what was requested.
At least a little of that does shine through.
"The Hitchiker's Guide to VMS" has many tidbits up through the V5 days. Bruce Ellis, 1990. And even better it's enjoyable.
There were various detailed things in DTJ, although those typically represent more of the corporate mongolian-horde design-by-committee approach to systems programming, rather than anything you'd want to actually emulate.
Tim.
Probably borderline for CCtalk, but does anyone have a proper programming manual for the Iomega ZIP drive ( 100MB atapi version ) ?
I need to know exactly which ATAPI commands have been implemented.
Jos Dreesen
Note: I'm not asking about VAX hardware architecture, but about the
software architecture of the VMS operating system.
What were it's design goals?
What were the design trade-offs made that resulted in the specific
choices for VMS? Process scheduling? I/O? etc.
Is there a good book on this subject?
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Some here may find this useful:
http://www.vecoven.com/trs80/trs80.html
He seems to be emulating a WD1010 drive controller.
g.
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A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes.
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----- Original Message:
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2012 09:55:12 -0400
From: Ethan Dicks <ethan.dicks at gmail.com>
> Try powering up with the video RAMs removed (they are in the back and look
> like they have dots on them). With no RAM, the PET should power up to a
> blank screen
Tsk, tsk, Ethan, you know better than that ;-)
A PET with a working video section and video RAM removed will show the
classic checkerboard pattern or under certain circumstances a pattern of
small black squares.
No doubt there's considerable PET knowledge on this list, but as Terry
suggested previously the VCF forum or one of the PET/CBM-specific lists
might be a better place to find help with a sick PET...
m
Hi
You wouldn't have a copy of the reference disks for your rm pc-386 as I have
one and am unable to setup it up as I cant get into the bios etc
Any help would be much appreciated
Cheers
mark
cctalk-request at classiccmp.org wrote:
From: David Griffith <dgriffi at cs.csubak.edu>
To: cctalk at classiccmp.org
Subject: straight-8 miniaturised
Who was the one with the wacky idea of building a Straight-Eight PDP8
using flipchip cards populated with surface-mount parts? I have a
hankering to run some numbers about it.
There's some guy in Germany who built a complete computer using
discrete components, mostly resistors and bipolar transistors
(no ICs), but all surface mount. It was quite small. I can't find the
link now, but there are a bunch of homebrew computer projects linked
to here:
http://www.homebrewcpu.com/links.htmhttp://www.holmea.demon.co.uk/Links.htm
Jon
Hi,
I'm thinking of getting my Zilog System 8000 maybe one day
back to life... this includes multiple tasks.
- get a working harddrive
- get a working tapedrive
- get access to tapes containing the OS and the diagnostics
Right now I'm thinking of the tapedrive part.
The original drive is a DEI CMTD-3400
http://www.bitsavers.org/pdf/dei/CMTD-3400S2_4tk6400bpi_1979.pdf
I have one but it is broken in multiple ways
- the previous owner I got the drive from replaced it in the 80s
as it was failing (no further details available)
- the motor does not run smootly - it does not start on its own
when powered up and the UPM is changing. I was not able to open
it.
- the rubber wheel went to fluid (usual problem...)
I now got a so called "Quantex 2200" which is a 19" case with
two Quantex 650 drives which should be able to handle the same
tape format as the DEI drive.
All I was able to find about this drive was:
http://www.bitsavers.org/pdf/quantex/TM1001_650_Jul81.pdf
Does anyone have any experience with this drive? I wonder if
I could make it "connection compatible" somehow with the DEI
drive. The manual itself talks about a controller board which
is the only whay the drives can be bus driven - it looks like
the drives in this 2200 case do not have this optional controller
board. Maybe they do not have it because the big plate in top
of the case is a controller board for both drives...
Who knows - I did not find anything usefull about this 2200
case nor how it is supposed to be connected to what (pinouts).
The rubber wheels are as well went fluid.
I could also need some ideas how to get a QIC drive capable of
reading and writing DC300XL QIC cartridges hooked up to a PC
with BSD or Linux running as in some point in the future.
I must be able to copy the system tapes (reading + writing) with
a PC.
Pics of this 2200 case:
http://pics.pofo.de/gallery3/index.php/S8000/Quantex-2200
Greetings, Oliver
Do you remember Grant Stockly of altairkit.com? Whatever happened to him?
The site is still up and running, but it hasn't been updated since 2007.
The forums there are choked with spam. I'd love to see what he's been up
to and maybe buy a kit from him.
--
David Griffith
dgriffi at cs.csubak.edu
A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
A: Top-posting.
Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?
Who was the one with the wacky idea of building a Straight-Eight PDP8
using flipchip cards populated with surface-mount parts? I have a
hankering to run some numbers about it.
--
David Griffith
dgriffi at cs.csubak.edu
A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
A: Top-posting.
Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?
On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 8:31 PM, Michael Thompson
<michael.99.thompson at gmail.com> wrote:
> The M220 tester is the one that I want to see
> working. Those modules are problematic and difficult to test in a
> partially working system.
I would love to see (and build!) an M220 tester. That's a complex module.
-ethan
Hi
Months ago there was some discussion about a SCSI-1 to IDE converter
project. There appears to be some general need for older SCSI-1 based
computers to replace their hard drives with more available models.
Unfortunately there are no "free and open" solutions as of yet AFAIK.
I've designed a PCB that converts SCSI-1 to IDE and SD. There are about 8
PCBs left. I am looking for some volunteers to help build and test the
board. So far we know the basic board boots but still need more software to
handle the SCSI-1 to IDE or SD conversion.
http://n8vem-sbc.pbworks.com/w/browse/#view=ViewFolder¶m=MINI%20SCSI%20t
o%20IDE%20prototypes
If you are willing to volunteer and have some experience in building,
testing, debugging, and writing software this would be a good project.
Please contact me by email for more information.
Thanks and have a nice day!
Andrew Lynch
On 15 Apr 2012 at 12:20, Eric Smith wrote:
> Chuck Guzis wrote:
> > just google for "germicidal lamp" Not horribly expensive. Add an
> > inexpensive mechanical timer if you'd like and you're all set.
>
> But remember, the short-wave UV can harm your eyes fairly quickly.
> Catching a brief glimpse of it won't hurt you, but avoid looking at it
> any longer than that. Put it in an opaque container. I strongly
> recommend installing a switch that turns off the lamp when the
> container is opened.
Hence my coffee can container. Not convenient to turn upside down
and stare into. One could add a microswitch or even a mercury switch
to enforce an interlock, but I never found it necessary.
> If you're in a hurry, it is also possible to use a Xenon or Krypton
> flash tube (provided that it is made from quartz class to not filter
> out the shortwave UV) to erase the EPROMs nearly instantaneously.
> Needless to say, this is even more potentially harmful to the eyes.
Should be easy enough to find if one hoarded the disposable camera
innards. A carbon arc will also do just fine (I remember how
brightly the luminous face on a watch would glow when held to the
observation port of an Ashcraft projector can. See
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Jqc4GiMQE0). A MIG welder would
also probably generate enough short-wave UV.
I wonder if enough UV would get through, say, an ordinary 75 watt
mercury-vapor luminaire.
--Chuck
Querying the Group Mind(TM):
We have been asked to find out if any Systems Engineering Laboratories
systems are still in existence. That's kind of vague, but that's the
question as it was posed to us, and I said I'd ask in the usual fora.
We're only looking for information on whether any of these systems are
known still to be in existence, whether in use or in storage.
I vaguely remember Gould SEL32 "superminis" in the late 70s/early 80s as
competitors to the DEC VAX and the IBM 43xx lines, but only through ads
in Computerworld and Datamation. Information on those would be appreciated.
We would also like to know about earlier systems, including the 24-bit
processors from the mid-60s.
Thanks for any help you can provide.
Rich Alderson
Vintage Computing Sr. Systems Engineer
Vulcan, Inc.
505 5th Avenue S, Suite 900
Seattle, WA 98104
mailto:RichA at vulcan.com
mailto:RichA at LivingComputerMuseum.org
(206) 342-2239
(206) 465-2916 cell
http://www.LivingComputerMuseum.org/
Heres my official List of whats for sale
Apple IIGS ROM 03 with CMS SCSI II card, AE SonicBlaster, 2 External
SCSI Hard Drives, 1 40mb the other 80MB- both come with extra drive
mechanisms- Matching Monitor, Keyboard & Mouse $200 plus shipping
Apple //e enhanced system loaded
Has the 80col/RGB Card, With Color Monitor 100, Echo II Speech Synth
Card, Apple II workstation card, Liron Card w/ 3.5 UniDisk Drive,
SCSI Card
Comes with a DuoDisk Drive, and a 3.5 UniDisk, Super Serial Card, And
a Monitor //
$300
Tandy 1400HD Laptop- Comes with AC Adapter and Dead Battery, Cant get
unit to power up.
$40
TRS-80 Color Computer with original owners manuals, joysticks, tape
player, software carts. All of it for $50 dollars
4 Apple Disk II Drives $25 each- may need cleaning
Apple //c System with AC Adapter and external 5.25 drive $30 + shipping
Tandy SL386 w/ 486 upgrade 4MB RAM 80MB HDD $20
AST Advantage Adventure 486/33 with 66mhz overdrive 16MB RAM, 170MB HDD,
SoundBlaster 16 w/ IDE and CD-ROM installed $40
Tandy 486 Desktop, SCSI Card 8MB RAM, 250mb HDD $30- Powers on but
doesnt POST
8 G3 All in One Molar Macs $20 dollars each- Will not ship these
monsters as they weigh 60lbs each- These will have to be recycled if
they arent taken soon enough
20 Mac LC 575 systems $20 dollars each- These are also recycle bound
10 Power Mac 5500s $20 each These are also recycle bound
Apple ADB Mice $5 dollars each- I have 80 of them
Apple //e 80/Col RGB Card made by Taxan $20
Kaypro 2 Nice original System, original owners manuals, system disks
and software works fine- Never use it $150
Kaypro IV Plus 88 $40
Commodore SX64- Great condition fully functional, Owners Manual and
original disks and carry bag included $175
1 Mac 512k for parts- Powers on, missing Floppy Drive $40
ROM 00 IIGS CPU $20
Will have more as I clean out my closets and shed in the future
Steve Landon
Flushing MI
>From the earliest history of the computer the innovators and engineers
talked about licensing, patents and who did what & when. What has
changed? Should we be surprised that Jack Tramiel ?acted? the way he
did and not necessarily in a bad way; that the supercomputer?s origins
is in dispute! The historical origins, in some fashion, can be found
in ?Turing Cathedral: The origins of the digital universe? by George
Dyson. It tells us why we had the vintage computer era - this can be
found in my book, ?A Historical Research Guide to the Microcomputer.?
(Shameful plug here!) - and what has evolved since.
Murray--
Hi -- friends of mine found an intact, in-box Minivac 6010
with manuals and wires etc in their mother's closet in Ohio.
Just as a FYI for them, any info on valuation? I see virtually
no trades of these in Google searches.
tanks
Brian
On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 2:12 PM, Dave Caroline
<dave.thearchivist at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 7:52 PM, Win Heagy <wheagy at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I recently picked up a PET 2001-8. ?It has a video issue...see
>> http://imgur.com/PKc97 ?(disregard the black diagonal scan
lines...digital
>> camera artifact).
> 2 The processor cannot write to the video ram (and therefore clear it)
>>>That's also a distinct possibility.
>>>Which version of Static PET do you have? They came with different
>>>types of ROM and RAM (the schematics for all three variations are
>>>posted on zimmers.net). Main memory and video memory use the same
>>>chips, 1Kx4 in pairs. You need two working chips for video memory at
>>>at least 4 working chips for main memory (the first 1K is taken up
>>>with zero page variables, stack, and tape buffers). 2114 SRAMs are
>>>notoriously suspect, but 6550s can fail too.
Is it possible to tell the version by looking at the board? I posted a pic
at
http://imgur.com/3aeiL
>>>Before worrying about RAMs, check your Vcc... there are 4 regulators
>>>and 4 legs of +5VDC. If you've lost one, obviously, it will act
>>>strange.
I checked the 4 regulators and they are all outputting +5VDC. The most
deviation I saw was +4.94VDC.
Thanks...Win