Message: 18
Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2012 22:01:09 -0400
From: Paul Anderson <wackyvorlon at me.com>
To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
<cctalk at classiccmp.org>
Subject: Re: Can a Selectric from 1961 converted in one Terminal
Typewriter
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I'd keep it as a typewriter. They're great machines.
Seconded. The Selectric (Correcting Selectric II) is my favorite typewriter. A bit too heavy to be considered
portable, but solid and great feel.
You'd need to recreate all of the drive and decode mechanism - it wouldn't be worth it unless you were
very interested in recreating a Selectric Terminal Typewriter rather than just having a printing terminal.
I'm still searching for a pdp-11/70 front panel bezel. Does anyone have a
spare? Does anyone know what the part number is for this thing? That
would be very helpful.
--
David Griffith
dgriffi at cs.csubak.edu
A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
A: Top-posting.
Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?
Hi. I've reviewed one VT220, one DEC Letterwriter and my PDP8-E. Status:
- VT220 terminal - dead (in appeareance, the tube).
- Letterwriter: PS or/and some circuitry,
- PDP-8E: working. I should like to get one Teletype for it.
If someone has some ot these items to get rid or trade, let me know
off-list. Destination, south of Europe (Spain).
Regards
Sergio
Looks like the 50pin connection (J1) on the SUN2 CPU has 2 serial
ports, found a pinout:
The two serial ports on J1 are usually labelled SIO-A and SIO-B
on the back of the machine and appear as /dev/ttya and /dev/ttyb
under SunOS. The documented maximum output speed is 19200 bps.
All ports are wired DTE and are compatible with both RS-232C and
RS-423, using Zilog Z8530A dual UART chips. The pinout of J1 is:
3 TxD-A 14 DTR-A 33 DD-B
4 DB-A 15 DCD-A 34 CTS-B
5 RxD-A 22 DA-A 36 DSR-B
7 RTS-A 24 BSY-A 38 GND-B
8 DD-A 28 TxD-B 39 DTR-B
9 CTS-A 29 DB-B 40 DCD-B
11 DSR-A 30 RxD-B 47 DA-B
13 GND-A 32 RTS-B 49 BSY-B
Is the Sun 2 Keyboard a serial keyboard? If not, any ideas on where to
get a serial keyboard.
Thanks everyone!
-Nick
This little device seems to be the cheapest FTDI-based USB-serial
adapter I could find. Not sure what level converter chip it uses since
I haven't torn it down, but it seems to work with everything I've used
it with so far.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003TYCHIC/ref=cm_cr_rev_prod_title
--Dave
Guys,
We have decided that the 7090 artifacts should go to the National Museum of Computing at Bletchley Park, England.
Partly for patriotic reasons: the use the computer was put to in the UK. Also, we decided it is what the owner, a British pioneer of medical computing, would have wanted. Lastly, TNMOC assured me that they would be prepared to make copies availble of anything requested by outside museums and collectors. The items should be with them by the start of October 2012.
It was good to discover that two complete 7090s with support documentation is available in the US and Australia. That also weighed on the decision. I do hope they will one day be reactivated, when I will be delighted to come and have a look around!
Kind regards,
peter vp
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62 St Mary's Rise
Writhlington Radstock
Somerset BA3 3PD
UK
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Hello.
I have a Telenex Interview 8200.
After the self tests, it asks for the system disk and then to press any key. There is hard drive activity, but it seems that the system software is not present.
Is it possible to obtain the software for this unit?
Thank you.
Dan.
[Forwarded by lawrence at ljw.me.uk]
From: Tothwolf <tothwolf at concentric.net>
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
<cctalk at classiccmp.org>
Subject: Re: Apple 1 insanity continues
Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2012 17:37:48 -0500 (CDT)
[3rd attempt to send this to the list.]
On Tue, 24 Jul 2012, Al Kossow wrote:
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/251115805166
>
> down to cloning the Christies box
>
> gee.. I wonder where he got the scan of the manual from
I came across this link today:
http://www.applefritter.com/content/seems-another-apple-1-replica-newton-1-…
According to posts there, the guy building them goes by the name "Mike
Newton" and also has photos on Google+ at
https://plus.google.com/u/1/photos/109866693740649982432/albums
What I found odd in the Applefritter thread is that another person going
by 'michael0623' started that thread, and then 'Mike Newton' shows up and
mentions "michael0623 has helped to advertise a bit and he went further by
helping me to list one set of Newton 1 on Ebay". This sure looks like
spamming to me, but maybe someone else will spot something I missed.
While 'Mike Newton' claims he didn't copy Mike Willegal's Apple I
reproduction boards, it sure looks to me like he did.
http://willegal.net/appleii/apple1.htm
Supposedly this guy has made some sales, however I'm not buying his story.
Anyone can do a buy-it-now on their own items, which is actually allowed
per eBay policy, (although /bidding/ on one's own items is /not/ allowed).
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=251109274976
I call shenanigans.
> On 19 August 2012 04:55, Nick Allen <nick.allen at comcast.net> wrote:
>> Thanks everyone (especially Bear) for the wonderful help in reviving my Sun
>> 1 Computer (100u to be exact).
>>
>> After extensive CRT repairs, a EPROM reprogram (from Rev N to V100), my Sun
>> is now booting via the Sun2 CPU card and the bwone video board.
>>
>> Will upload screenshots tomorrow!
>
> Excellent stuff! Looking forward to more pictures :)
>
> Out of curiosity how much memory do you have for the system (just
> wondering about different OS options :)
>
>> Next step is to acquire a keyboard and mouse. Anyone have a series 1
>> Parallel Keyboard and mouse? Or have any ideas on what type of keyboard or
>> mouse would be compatible (if I was able to rewire to DB25). It appears to
>> be a serial protocol, are the old RJ45 keyboards of the same format? Other
>> ideas?
>
> As its a sun2 board with modified firmware maybe it might be possible
> to get it talking to a sun2 serial keyboard?
My 2/120 has six serial ports, a monochrome connector, and two RJ11
connectors on the back.
One RJ11 is for the keyboard and one is for the mouse. I believe that
two of the serial ports
are on the CPU and four are on the SCSI controller. The keyboard and
mouse serial ports
are on the monochrome video board.
Picture here: https://sites.google.com/site/mthompsonorg/Home/sun-microsystems/sun-2
--
Michael Thompson
Not sure of the memory, will need to look that up. I do have a sun 2 keyboard, I wonder if it is a possibility to connect it to the bwtwo video board exclusively for the keyboard use, while maintaining the bwone video board at the same time for video use.
------Original Message------
From: David Brownlee
To: nick.allen at comcast.net
Subject: Re: Sun 1 Computer LIVES!!!
Sent: Aug 19, 2012 1:11 PM
On 19 August 2012 04:55, Nick Allen <nick.allen at comcast.net> wrote:
> Thanks everyone (especially Bear) for the wonderful help in reviving my Sun
> 1 Computer (100u to be exact).
>
> After extensive CRT repairs, a EPROM reprogram (from Rev N to V100), my Sun
> is now booting via the Sun2 CPU card and the bwone video board.
>
> Will upload screenshots tomorrow!
Excellent stuff! Looking forward to more pictures :)
Out of curiosity how much memory do you have for the system (just
wondering about different OS options :)
> Next step is to acquire a keyboard and mouse. Anyone have a series 1
> Parallel Keyboard and mouse? Or have any ideas on what type of keyboard or
> mouse would be compatible (if I was able to rewire to DB25). It appears to
> be a serial protocol, are the old RJ45 keyboards of the same format? Other
> ideas?
As its a sun2 board with modified firmware maybe it might be possible
to get it talking to a sun2 serial keyboard?
Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
Hi Everyone,
I have an original box with 7 DEClaser 2000 ROM cartridges:
1 x LNXXU-PS : PostScript Program/Fonts
3 x LNXX-CA : C.G. Times
3 x DEClaser 2150/2250 NVR Enable Card
1 x User guide for the PostScript card.
If you want it, you can have it for the cost of shipping it from the
Netherlands. Please claim it before the end of the week, or it'll go
in the bin.
Camiel.
On Wed, 15 Aug 2012 19:23:24 +0100 (BST), ard at p850ug1.demon.co.uk (Tony
Duell) wrote:
> Now, goign back to classic computing, most people can run the emulators
> at home if they so wish. And the emulators do, undoubtedly, provide
> soemthign for hte 'feel' of the real machine. But if you go to the museum
> you should get soemthign rather more, something you can't get at home.
> And that probably means the msueum should run the real hardware.
I completely agree. Seeing and hearing a Spitfire flying around above
you adds a whole new dimension to seeing a stationary Spitfire in a
museum. Recently I went with two of my sons to see the exhibition "Three
tons of minicomputers - 40 years with computers in the service of
Uppsala University". Both of them are very good programmers and
interested in computing, and they found the exhibition very interesting.
However, if the exhibits had been running, and they could have heard a
line printer or an ASR-33 printing, seen and heard a disk pack seeking,
seen the blinkenlights etc, it would have given them a much better idea
of what computing was like 40 years ago. That wasn't possible as the
exhibition was only a temporary one, but had it been permanent, I
definitely agree that they should have been shown running.
/Jonas
I know of someone in Jackson, Mississippi looking for someone to service
and repair the external hard drives for some Tandy 6000 computers.
Anyone interested?
Kelly at catcorner.org
Hi there, I saw your post some where and I thought I would reply. What I
am doing is "scanning" in all my electronic magazines, and saving them as
*.pdf files on my hard drive. I do remember seeing a 6802 project some
where, I skipped it as I am more concerned with 6502 CPU based systems. My
mags are from 1977 up to 1992 and this is ETI (UK), PE and EPE. I am now
coming to the end of the ETI mags. If you want that article on the 6802
CPU, I can scan it and forward it. I am not sure what sort of copy right
trouble this will invite, but as no money will exchange hands, I cant see
them getting upset or anything
Cheers Trevor
Hi everybody,
the recent talk about FTDI USB/RS232 chips reminded me of this...
Sometime ago, I bought a numeric USB keypad with a two-line dot matrix LCD on top on a flea market. This piece of hardware is designated
DATACOMP Electronics co., Ltd.
Model No.: DLK18U_100AL
and has a marking referring to "alphyra" (which seems to have been a now-defunct/absorbed e-payment outfit) above the display. It has 18 keys (4 blank, ESC (red key body), numeric keypad "0"-"9",".", backspace (left arrow), and Enter (green key body)) and shows, IIRC, "Version 1.0" on the display when powered.
The .tw-based manufacturer is alive and even has a driver download for it, which seems to be nothing more than an FTDI serial port driver providing a new COM port on my computer. The FTDI chip inside the keypad is attached to an EN78P447xxx device, which I found out to be an OTP microcontroller.
What I unfortunately wasn't able to find yet was any description how to talk to/what to expect from this port. Listening on the COM port at various speeds with the usual 8n1 parameters and pressing keys on the keypad yielded nothing, so there's probably some sort of initialization necessary.
A long shot again I know, but if somebody has experience or documentation regarding this keypad that may be shared, then please contact me.
Yours truly,
Arno Kletzander
I thought this might interest ClassicCmpers...
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---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: John Elliott <jce at seasip.demon.co.uk>
Date: 18 August 2012 00:01
Subject: [GEM Development] LongGEM is looooooong
To: gem-dev at simpits.org
One of the drivers in GEM that I've never been able to test is for an
'MDSI Genius' card. Tonight I tried patching support for this card into
a PC emulator, and running GEM (and Windows 1) with the results.
<http://www.seasip.info/Gem/History/longgem.png> - GEM/2 desktop
<http://www.seasip.info/Gem/History/longwin1.png> - Windows 1.04
According to reviews, the card could also do other tricks; it could
superimpose MDA-style text on the graphics output, and do a dual-head sort of
display with MDA text in the top half of the monitor and CGA graphics in the
bottom. But without any documentation or its DOS driver (VHRBIOS.SYS), how
it did those will remain a mystery. Such information as I have managed to
glean is at <http://www.seasip.info/VintagePC/mdsi_genius.html>.
--
John Elliott
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I have an AlphaStation 200 4/233 which was given to me without a video
board or floppy drive. I stuck an old Teac FD-235HF in the floppy bay to
fill the hole (no data cable), but have no idea what I really need for a
video board.
I'm planning to use this machine as a low end testbed machine for Debian
Linux since the Alpha port needs to be brought back up, so I know I
probably need a board that can handle more than 256 colors. I think this
eliminates the ZLXp-E1 (TGA 8-plane), but at the same time it may be a
good idea to be able to test with a TGA board as well since there are
going to be quite a few of these machines out there which have a TGA
board.
I will probably also want to run ULTRIX or OSF/1 on the machine at some
point, assuming I can find installation media.
Based on the datasheet I found online, these appear to have been (some?)
of the video boards offered as options for this system:
ZLXp-E1 8-plane PBXGA-AA PBXGA-AN [NT]
ZLXp-E2 24-plane PBXGA-BA PBXGA-BN [NT]
ZLXp-E3 24-plane PBXGA-CA PBXGA-CN [NT]
ZLXp-L1 24-plane PBXGC-AA
ZLXp-L2 24-plane PBXGC-BA
Does anyone have an extra video board laying around that they would be
willing to part with for postage costs? This machine has been sitting
unused for far too long and I'd really like to put it to work.
Guys,
I am sending this to all who have registered an interest in the IBM 7090 and museums. Sorry if I got some people wrong!
This computer started life at AWRE in the UK (nuclear weapons design?!) and finished in the Medical Computing department at Manchester Uni in 1970, where it ran for 10-20 years.
It had 4 channels, 32K memory, card reader, card punch, 300 LPM barrel printer and ?20 mag tapes. It also had an IBM 1401 for printer I/O.
I have now surveyed the stuff available. There is no hardware. It is a lot of (probably complete) hardware documentation, cicuit diagrams, s/w documentation (IBSYS, etc) also. Also a lot of mag tapes of mixed content and some card trays of mixed content.
Are any of you out there interested? It is all quite heavy so transport will be a challenge, but surmountable!
The stuff will be available in the first week of September. Any sensible offers will be considered. It might go on eBay but I will wait until you guys respond first.
Kind regards,
peter vp
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Peter Van Peborgh
62 St Mary's Rise
Writhlington Radstock
Somerset BA3 3PD
UK
01761 439 234
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Anyone have about 3 or 4 or so IBM 00K4151, FRU 10L6081 9.1GB disk drives in PC Server hot swap trays (76H7287)'s (preferably with non-broken locking levers) that they'd like to part with for ~$5-$10 each?
I need a few more to get my P/390 fully stocked... :)
Thanks in advance!
Hi. One friend told me yesterday that he has one Selectric in working
state available for me. Can this machine be converted in one Terminal
Typewriter ? Thanks.
Regads
Serhio