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by rborsuk＠colourfull.com

Hi All, Please contact Mike directly at mta at umich.edu. He was nice enough to offer it to me but I have several stacks already. I think there's a couple of people on the list who get out to the Ann Arbor, MI. area. Thanks Rob Begin forwarded message: > From: Mike Alexander <mta at umich.edu> > Date: September 15, 2012 7:14:03 PM EDT > To: Robert Borsuk <rborsuk at colourfull.com> > Subject: Paper for Decwriter > > I found a large stack of fanfold paper suitable for use in the Decwriter you got from me. It's normal 1403 fanfold paper that has been printed on one side. There are several hundred sheets in one continuous fanfold which I intendedto use in the Decwriter by printing on the reverse side. If you will be in Ann Arbor anytime soon and want it you can have it, otherwise I'll recycle it. I'll be around next week and then unavailable until the middle of October. It's probably not worth mailing it, although I could do so, I suppose. > > Mike > Robert Borsuk rborsuk at colourfull.com Colourfull Creations http://www.colourfull.com

13 years, 7 months

WTB ATT Picturephones or Stromberg Carson VISTAPHONE

by COURYHOUSE＠aol.com

WTB ATT Picture phones or Stromberg Carson VISTAPHONE reply off list to _couryhouse at aol.com_ (mailto:couryhouse at aol.com) and cc _info at smecc.org_ (mailto:info at smecc.org) Thanks Ed!

13 years, 7 months

Cipher "Quarterback" capstan diameter

by derschjo＠gmail.com

Hey all -- Anyone know the appropriate diameter for the rubber capstan wheel in a Cipher Quarterback tape drive (model F420-90)? This is an old 20mb drive used in Sun-2/120 workstations. Someone's gone through the trouble of removing the sticky tar of the old wheel but I have no idea what to replace it with. Thanks as always, Josh

13 years, 7 months

Sequent SE20 any interest?

by rborsuk＠colourfull.com

I have a Sequent SE20 with Dynix installed. I also have the terminal to go with it. It use to boot but I didn't have the password. Any interst for $150 before I part it out. Located in New Baltimore, MI. 48047 or I can make it available in Port Huron, MI. 48060 Rob Quick pic at : http://www.borsuk.info/ebay/sequent.jpg Robert Borsuk rborsuk at colourfull.com Colourfull Creations http://www.colourfull.com

13 years, 7 months

TMS320C20 C-compiler?

by holm＠freibergnet.de

Hi, a friend from our german Robotron comuter Forum gave me an U320C20 Chip that was made in the former GDR bei ZMD Dresden. It is a copy of the TMS320C20. I got that Chip to do something with it, not to display it somewhere. Maybe I can build a wirewrap board with it, but I want to program the firmware in C. Now I'm searching for an C Compiler that supports it, gcc does'nt unfortunately, there is some support for the TMS320C3x and 320C4x Processors which are floating point variants, the C20 is a Integer processor w/o fp. I know that there must be at least a TI C Cross-Compiler has existed for Dos, Solaris and other OS. Has someone a usable copy from such a thing? Kind Regards, Holm PS: this is for notalgia purposes only... -- Technik Service u. Handel Tiffe, www.tsht.de, Holm Tiffe, Freiberger Stra?e 42, 09600 Obersch?na, USt-Id: DE253710583 www.tsht.de, info at tsht.de, Fax +49 3731 74200, Mobil: 0172 8790 741

13 years, 7 months

ebay: Apollo 68030 motherboard?

by legalize＠xmission.com

<http://www.ebay.com/itm/180935524789> FYI -- "The Direct3D Graphics Pipeline" free book <http://tinyurl.com/d3d-pipeline> The Computer Graphics Museum <http://computergraphicsmuseum.org> The Terminals Wiki <http://terminals.classiccmp.org> Legalize Adulthood! (my blog) <http://legalizeadulthood.wordpress.com>

13 years, 7 months

Items for sale, Portland Or. area pickup for Sunday, Monday.

by jimpdavis＠gorge.net

Hi, I have the follow equipment that can be picked up in Portland Or. (Aloha) Sunday afternoon till Monday evening. All gear works unless otherwise stated. $200 - HP 9000/300 with 68030 / 68881, monitor and HPIL keyboard. Includes 2 X one meg RAM PN 98257 and spare 68K card. $100 - Tandy Model 4, 2 drives, Video problems when second drive installed? Works otherwise - OBO $100 - Tektronix 4662 flatbed plotter, serial and GPIB. Joystick pots need cleaning, drifts slightly when jogged and released. $500 - Alpha Micro Mini LSI Card cage, Power supply, Front panel, CPU, 64 K RAM, TTY I/O option, 3'rd party I/O card, extender. Machine missing power cable from fuse to power supply - 9 Pin molex, no fans in fan cage, one ram chip de-lidded but part is available. Condition unknown, Worked in 1985 before fans stolen and power cable lost Best offer: Kaypro 2 - powers up, no software Sanyo MBC-1000, external floppy. Powers up, couldn't get it to boot with disks I have. Stuff I want to get rid of before the rains start - Must pick up in Goldendale Wa. Pallet of 12 Apple Macs - 68K and powerPC. keyboards, monitors, all-in-ones, - contact if interested, Contact off-list if interested. -jim

13 years, 7 months

bad disks

by rampaginggreenhulk＠yahoo.com

you've done what you could. The data seems irretrievable. Theoretically is it possibly to retrieve bits via optical means? Is it practical?

13 years, 7 months

Origins of term "laptop" computer, and absurdity of "first"

by evan＠snarc.net

>> each person has their own qualifiers. You reject "laptop" as a definition if it requires a cord. Mine is right. :) >> SOME people reject anything that they hadn't heard of. Sounds like this list... In 2005 Toshiba announced the 20th anniversary of when they invented the laptop. When pressed, they claimed theirs was the "first" with a 286 (who knows), and that clearly a laptop is only a laptop if it's got a 286 or newer.

13 years, 7 months

Microsoft cordless phone

by rampaginggreenhulk＠yahoo.com

I used to have 1/2 of one. Not the handset but the cradle and box. I tossed it. What would the whole thing have been worth? Nothing on eBay right now.

13 years, 7 months

Microsoft cordless phone

by rampaginggreenhulk＠yahoo.com

lol Fred actually bought one to use (I guess well have to allow for it being a gift. Suuuuuure). THEN he calls the Microsloth help desk. And let the record reflect my invention of that term. And yes I am quite sure... ------------------------------ On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 6:30 PM PDT Fred Cisin wrote: >On Fri, 14 Sep 2012, Curt @ Atari Museum wrote: >> Never even heard of it before... so they killed I with that one model? >yes >> No 2.4ghz or higher models later on? >no > >it was one of the early ordinary cordless phones with the base cradle >connected to a computer. "Do not use a portable or laptop computer." >It saved the caller ID data. It claimed to have a TTY/TDD cpability, but >nobody at MICROS~1 "tech support" could tell me how to open a TTY window, >with any more detail than reading aloud from the list of features: "It >says right here, 'Can do TDD communication'. We'll get back to you." > >

13 years, 7 months

anyone (still) going to the MIT Flea Market?

by rampaginggreenhulk＠yahoo.com

you dont find oodles of vintage stuff anywhere. You may chance upon something at the Flea. Its been five years for me, 10-12 prior that. It never blew my socks off. There were a few guys with machinery last time, which always lights my fire. ------------------------------ On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 5:07 PM PDT Sam O'nella wrote: >Nah, I down South in an area that you would THINK would have lots of neat >tech findings but it's mostly new tech here and a lack of vintage.

13 years, 7 months

anyone (still) going to the MIT Flea Market?

by rampaginggreenhulk＠yahoo.com

the crowd can emgage in whatever famtastical notions they wish Dave. All I know is the stuff I pine for is very hard to find. ------------------------------ On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 6:40 PM PDT Dave McGuire wrote: >On 09/14/2012 08:46 PM, Chris Tofu wrote: >> you dont find oodles of vintage stuff anywhere. You may chance upon >> something at the Flea. Its been five years for me, 10-12 prior that. > > Heh. If you listen to this crowd, PDP-11s and ASR33s can be found in >any dumpster or on any street corner anytime, and nobody should ever pay >more than a dollar or two for one. ;) > > -Dave > >-- >Dave McGuire, AK4HZ >New Kensington, PA

13 years, 7 months

Origins of term "laptop" computer

by tom94022＠comcast.net

FWIW, US Pat 5,268,816 filed Sept 28, 1982 uses the term ?laptop computers? throughout the specification but not in the claims.? The next usage (lap-top) was filed July 3, 1986 (4,788,658). A search of a newspaper archive finds the earliest usage of "laptop computer" in print in a Jan 1985 Knight Ridder column by Evelyn Richards ??84 computer predictions go awry,? which ended with the following paragraph. "They predict among other things a lap-top computer (dubbed Clamshell) from IBM ? Google News? earliest hits are ?lap top? in 1986. IEEE Xplore has its first hit a September 1986 Computer Magazine Ad for an add on "lOM-byte internal hard disk for Zenith Data Systems' Z-171 laptop computer.." The NY Times' first used it in Peter Lewis' column on Nov 5, 1985, as "THE Tandy Corporation has introduced a new portable computer, the Model 600. The designation might lead someone to suspect that the Model 600 is six times better than the Tandy Model 100, which is a delightful little laptop computer and one of the best bargains around for reporters, salesmen and others who need to take a briefcase-sized office along with them when they hit the road." Anyone have any earlier published dates? Tom

13 years, 7 months

Roytron paper tape reader/punch - Seattle area, free if you collect.

by glen.slick＠gmail.com

Anyone interested in a Roytron paper tape reader/punch? Looks like this one, but definitely in used condition, not like the new looking one pictured here: http://www.ebay.com/itm/200712902556 Working condition unknown. Was military surplus (govliquidation). No documentation. Manuals here may or may not apply to some of the mechanical or electrical components in this model: http://www.bitsavers.org/pdf/roytron/ Free to a good home only if you collect in the Seattle (eastside) area. Reply off list if interested. -Glen

13 years, 7 months

Osborne Battery (Was: Re: Origins of term "laptop" computer)

by feldman.r＠comcast.net

>Message: 12 >Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2012 22:45:50 -0400 >From: "Evan Koblentz" < evan at snarc.net > > >>>>> On the Osborne 1, Lee Felsenstein designed in a connector for >external battery power! When queried about how large the battery >would be, Lee > >>> Measuring mine (including case), it's about 155mm wide x 115mm deep x >190mm high > >Then it must be a prototype, or custom-made, or unauthorized, because Lee >himself told me Osborne never made a battery, and that there was a deal in >the works to authorize an aftermarket battery, but the deal fell through. I bought it new at a Computerland in Chicago, IIRC. I'll have to see if I still have the receipt for it.There is no logo on the battery carry case, but there is the Osborne Computer logo on the DC-to-AC converter. The wall wart for the charger was made by Gould. Bob

13 years, 7 months

anyone (still) going to the MIT Flea Market?

by rampaginggreenhulk＠yahoo.com

arent you on the west coast? What is that piddly event compared to the amount of tech out there?? You may be able to find a few more jumbo culture bottles at the Flea. Used but steam cleaned! ------------------------------ On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 2:41 PM PDT Sam O'nella wrote: >Sounds awesome. Would certainly go if it was a local event.

13 years, 7 months

Seeking ASCII keyboard for Wyse 99gt or similar terminal

by dgriffi＠cs.csubak.edu

Somehow the keyboard to my Wyse 99gt serial terminal has gone missing. Does anyone here have a US ASCII keyboard compatible with this terminal? Compatibles include WY-50, WY-55, WY-60, WY-99GT, WY-120, WY-150, WY-160, WY-325, WY-370 -- David Griffith dgriffi at cs.csubak.edu A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?

13 years, 7 months

anyone (still) going to the MIT Flea Market?

by rampaginggreenhulk＠yahoo.com

it's this Sunday. I am tempted.

13 years, 7 months

Interested in a PDP

by wackyvorlon＠me.com

I've been wanting a PDP for some time now. I don't really have any particular model in mind, but my budget has an upper limit of about $1000. Any recommendations on where to look and what to look for? -------- Paul Anderson -- VE3HOP

13 years, 7 months

looking for an Apricot F1 or F1e

by rampaginggreenhulk＠yahoo.com

preferably an F1. I actually hate many English computers, being they used a lot of ASICs earlier then us Yanks did (seemingly. My Nimbus motherboard has all sorts of horrid crap on it). But it's too cute to pass up.

13 years, 7 months

UNIVAC model

by elson＠pico-systems.com

> From: Toby Thain <toby at telegraphics.com.au> > To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts > <cctalk at classiccmp.org> > Subject: Re: UNIVAC model > Message-ID: <50532689.4000205 at telegraphics.com.au> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > On 14/09/12 12:16 AM, jimpdavis wrote: > >> Adrian Stoness wrote: >> >>> wow... makes me really wonder what i should be insuring this phillips >>> model >>> >>> Wow, that is an amazing find. Rare? My guess is this was a complete one-off made by the model shop for display at a trade show or maybe to sit in a glass case in the corporate lobby. Jon

13 years, 7 months

Radio Shack 20 In 1 Electroncs Set

by mrosati＠suffolk.lib.ny.us

Hi: I happened to see your posting regarding a search for old Radio Shack Modules. I am just curious if you ever came across the manual for the 20 in 1 Electronics Set (28-245). I happen to have the kit but lost the manual. I have a young son that took an interest in electronics and would love to show him what I had when I was his age. Electronic copy would be fine. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks Louis Rosati

13 years, 7 months

Origins of term "laptop" computer was Re: Bill Moggridge

by evan＠snarc.net

>>>> On the Osborne 1, Lee Felsenstein designed in a connector for external battery power! When queried about how large the battery would be, Lee >>> Measuring mine (including case), it's about 155mm wide x 115mm deep x 190mm high Then it must be a prototype, or custom-made, or unauthorized, because Lee himself told me Osborne never made a battery, and that there was a deal in the works to authorize an aftermarket battery, but the deal fell through.

13 years, 7 months

Bill Moggridge died

by evan＠snarc.net

It's been in the news this weekend -- Bill Moggridge, credited as the designer of the "clamshell" shape for laptop computers, died. I agree that Moggridge did important work for the Grid Compass, circa 1982. His design may indeed have been the first of its kind, although I'd be curious to see any examples of prior art. But, I strongly disagree with all the reports calling the Compass a "laptop" computer. I don't mean that as mere semantics: a vital definition of a laptop isn't just a flat lap-sized computer, but rather a flat lap-sized computer with its own power source. Compass users had no choice but to plug into wall power. So the Compass may have been the first clamshell * computer * but it's not a laptop.

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