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by rampaginggreenhulk＠yahoo.com

------------------------------ On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 8:56 PM PST Fred Cisin wrote: >I remember a thread on this list about the best patterns to stack them >when you have a few hundred that you can't get rid of You're giving me ideas. Perhaps when I'm settled somewhere I'll build a giant man sized 128k Mac. Then get inside the tube and have everyone believe I got shrunken. But if I want to go real I could always put to use the 19" paper white crts a lister sent me. Like a Mac on steroids. I still love my Macs (and Lisa). Only got a Plus and an SE but I ain't complaining.

13 years, 1 month

Grid 2260

by rampaginggreenhulk＠yahoo.com

It's from his future ding ding. He commissioned evil cyborgs (like when aren't they) to steal it from a museum. Believe it or not it's worth like 12,000,000,000$ then whenever the heck then is. But then again maybe it may only be like a year from now considering what Obama bucks will likely be worth. In any event grab it. Money is no object here. ------------------------------ On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 8:52 PM PST Sam O'nella wrote: >Depends where you're located and what you're hoping to get for it. :-) do you collect anything or is this just from your past? > >-----Original Message----- >From: Adam Michael Rubin <adamrubin at gmail.com> >Sender: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.orgDate: Tue, 12 Feb 2013 16:57:43 >To: cctalk at classiccmp.org<cctalk at classiccmp.org> >Reply-To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" > <cctalk at classiccmp.org> >Subject: Grid 2260 > > Hey there, I have an old GRID 2260 laptop. It's a beauty. It works, loads >Windows 3.1.1 for pen computing, but the pen is broken, sadly. > > I would like to sell this computer. Any leads? > >Adamrubin at gmail.com >

13 years, 1 month

Macintosh 128K in Portland, Cheap

by rampaginggreenhulk＠yahoo.com

Do 128k Macs go for big bucks? Guess I've been out of the loop.

13 years, 1 month

Grid 2260

by adamrubin＠gmail.com

Hey there, I have an old GRID 2260 laptop. It's a beauty. It works, loads Windows 3.1.1 for pen computing, but the pen is broken, sadly. I would like to sell this computer. Any leads? Adamrubin at gmail.com

13 years, 1 month

3B2 floppies

by rampaginggreenhulk＠yahoo.com

and Scott more often then not DD media will format fine as "quads". They may not last as long as 96tpi media, depending on the quality. I'm going to guess a 720k or 1.44meg drive won't work but it's not impossible.

13 years, 1 month

reasons to keep a Turbo XT clone.

by rampaginggreenhulk＠yahoo.com

>[Thank yuou for bottom posting. It shows a willingness and ability to >think and adapt to the ettiquettes of others] For the 9 years or whatever I've been on the list I've top posted probably 90+ percent of the time. Because it makes more sense. And I trim more then most people. So I don't understand why you see this as a blessed event. Don't know how I earned a reputation. >The stock 5160 supports 4 floppy drives. (two internal, two on DC37) >The stock 5170 supports 2 floppy drives. But you need a different controller on 5150/5160 to drive an 8" drive, except maybe a ss drive?

13 years, 1 month

NEC D765D

by doc＠vaxen.net

Is a ceramic NEC D765D worth anything? It's soldered on an adapter board for a bus I don't recognize. Other parts on the board have 1977 date codes. I pulled it out of a recycle bin, so I have no clue what it belongs to. I assume it's a floppy controller, seeing as it has two 34-pin headers... Doc

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NEC D765D

by rampaginggreenhulk＠yahoo.com

I'll give you a dollar for it. seriously

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3B2 floppies

by rampaginggreenhulk＠yahoo.com

------------------------------ On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 3:54 PM PST Fred Cisin wrote: >On Wed, 13 Feb 2013, Chris Tofu wrote: >> and Scott more often then not DD media will format fine as "quads". They >> may not last as long as 96tpi media, depending on the quality. >correct! >It is exactly the same issues as using SS media for DS. >It's there; it's the same; but it has not been tested for that use. > >> I'm going to guess a 720k or 1.44meg drive won't work but it's not >> impossible. > >720K BETTER work. >720K 3.5" was developed EXPLICITLY to serve as a replacement for 720K >5.25" It is INTENDED to work. Although there is an assumption that you >are competent to set the drive select and other jumpers for installation. This is assuming all 720k 5 1/4" drives are interchangeable. There are relatively few of those out there, but being there are any number of 360k drives that are not interchangeable, I have my doubts. It may be that controllers are finicky but that's the whole point really.

13 years, 1 month

reasons to keep a Turbo XT clone.

by saquinn624＠aol.com

About a year ago I got a Turbo XT clone (8-ish MHz V20, I think, full memory). It needs a bit of work (HDD, looks like a cap blew on the floppy, monitor needs a new CEE receptacle wired in), but it seems to power up fine. I've been shoveling it around for the past year-plus, and this is the first time I've even turned it on, which gets me wondering whether it's worth keeping or not, especially when virtualized PCs are so easy to do. I have a 386 and Pentium with ISA slots, so that's not a big deal. For those with old clones, what do you use them for, or is it just mostly nostalgia?

13 years, 1 month

OT: adorable and cute Android tricks

by rampaginggreenhulk＠yahoo.com

Shouldn't they all be sent to Gehenna? How do you expect to maximize battery life with all these wonderful sweet theatrics? I do love my new phone and tablet. But I'm thinking of taking a chop saw to both to extract all the gizmos. Any A* coders? I figure the Wrox book is my best bet. There's a much older one that deals specifically with A* architecture, and looks very good for generic knowledge (has a Pict or something on the cover), but is very old.

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Long Live the Quad was Re: NO QUAD (Was: 3B2 floppies

by rampaginggreenhulk＠yahoo.com

See, the faithful are already gathering to pay homage to the Quad. God save the Quad! Sergio, I'd help in any way I can, but basically I've already said everything I know. But if you need a few specifics about setting up an imaging box, I might be able to help a bit with that. Mainly you need a cable with a twist behind the end connector, use a hd 3.5" drive at the end as A:, a 5 1/4" drive as B:, setup your bios accordingly and you should be good to go. That's the setup that's proved successful for me. >I shall ask you about this matter, Chris. I need to grab some disks for one >Altos 586 and one ATT 3b1. > >Sergio.

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Computing - then & now

by rampaginggreenhulk＠yahoo.com

------------------------------ On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 2:45 PM PST Murray McCullough wrote: >Back in the early years of mass-computerism you had to be a >hobbyist/experimenter with good soldering skills to make computers do >what you wanted them to do. Today they do it without your input and/or >knowledge. Is that not scary? Were there prognosticators who predicted >what would be now, 35-40 yrs. on? Vintage/classic computing were the >safer years, maybe not as exciting! Maybe part of the answer is not to >be connected but we would lose out on participating in this forum and >so much more. > >Murray-- Stick with open source, basic builds.

13 years, 1 month

reasons to keep a Turbo XT clone.

by rampaginggreenhulk＠yahoo.com

------------------------------ On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 12:27 PM PST Pete Plank wrote: >It has a controller that supports the SD formats I needed, but I don't recall the specifics. The machine is currently in storage but I do plan on setting it up again soon. > >Pete Please keep us posted. Details like that are invaluable.

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NEC D765D

by rampaginggreenhulk＠yahoo.com

the masks were also leased to Rockwell who's house number was 6765

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NEC D765D

by rampaginggreenhulk＠yahoo.com

ironically I just shipped an NEC 8001a disk drive cabinet to Austria. it also had a ceramic 765 and the most unique door mechanisms I've seen with manual lock buttons. I didn't dismantle to the point that I could say for sure who the manufacturer of the drives were but the visible vertical shaft motors said Teac 18261 on it. Anyone know any more about them than I do or have tech manuals? Oh I got 15$ after shipping but before fees. It cost 100.15$ to ship. My net gain after everything is considered is likely zero or negative. How I love ebay.

13 years, 1 month

Computing - then & now

by c.murray.mccullough＠gmail.com

Back in the early years of mass-computerism you had to be a hobbyist/experimenter with good soldering skills to make computers do what you wanted them to do. Today they do it without your input and/or knowledge. Is that not scary? Were there prognosticators who predicted what would be now, 35-40 yrs. on? Vintage/classic computing were the safer years, maybe not as exciting! Maybe part of the answer is not to be connected but we would lose out on participating in this forum and so much more. Murray--

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reasons to keep a Turbo XT clone.

by rampaginggreenhulk＠yahoo.com

------------------------------ On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 9:40 AM PST Scott Quinn wrote: >About a year ago I got a Turbo XT clone (8-ish MHz V20, I think, full memory). It needs a bit of work (HDD, looks like a cap blew on the floppy, monitor needs a new CEE receptacle wired in), but it seems to power up fine. > >I've been shoveling it around for the past year-plus, and this is the first time I've even turned it on, which gets me wondering whether it's worth keeping or not, especially when virtualized PCs are so easy to do. I have a 386 and Pentium with ISA slots, so that's not a big deal. For those with old clones, what do you use them for, or is it just mostly nostalgia? Could you give more specifics. Date codes, possibly manufacturer? I'm not going to delude myself thinking it could be a rare clone I've been searching for, and that's not even my purpose for asking. Just curious how old it is. In my stash for instance I have a rebadged AMT ATjr (they kept it in the rom screen, but IBM forced them to change the name to AMTjr). Yes it's mostly about sentiment I'm sure. Chances are there's some kid or whoever who'd be happy to have it. Or a community college. I doubt there are still any 16 bit assembler courses being taught anywhere on planet earth, but it wasn't too long ago there was. But then again perhaps the skills are still necessary to keep those quasi mythical ten billion 80186 embedded apps running.

13 years, 1 month

Cassette drive for HP 98xx calculator (eBay, currently cheap)

by hp-fix＠xs4all.nl

Yes, it is for use with 98x0 -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: "William Maddox" <wmaddox at pacbell.net> Verzonden: ?13-?2-?2013 09:28 Aan: "cctalk at classiccmp.org" <cctalk at classiccmp.org> Onderwerp: Cassette drive for HP 98xx calculator (eBay, currently cheap) I think this was used with the 9800-series calculators. http://www.ebay.com/itm/s/181076085394 --Bill

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Cassette drive for HP 98xx calculator (eBay, currently cheap)

by wmaddox＠pacbell.net

I think this was used with the 9800-series calculators. http://www.ebay.com/itm/s/181076085394 --Bill

13 years, 1 month

Computing - then & now

by tom_a_sparks＠yahoo.com.au

----- Original Message ----- > A big part of the reason IMO for the excitement in the earlier years of > computing technology was that models were varying and unique, whereas today > they are uniform and ubiquitous. There's not much today that differentiates > computers from the desktop machine on up to super computers except for the > scale. "Back then" computers used a variety of different processors > and had > different models had strong points to them, storage technology was > different, etc. > > Not to say that modern day computing technology isn't impressive. But we > have since at least the last decade or two entered an era of incremental > changes rather than radical ones. > -- Geoffrey Oltmans I feel the guis have also stagnated as there is none-thing radical different between windows, Mac and linux excepted underlying operating system the only system that really worth looking at are the homebrew/clones/single-board-computers system --- tom_a_sparks "It's a nerdy thing I like to do" Child of the Internet born 1983 Please use ISO approved file formats excluding Office Open XML - http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html Ubuntu wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/tomsparks

13 years, 1 month

Tech:Then & Now

by c.murray.mccullough＠gmail.com

This is further to my note on Technology: Then & Now: As F. Chisholm says it?s the ?kitschy lowbrow tastes of the public? in contrast to the sophisticated highbrow tastes of the uber?rich as to who really influences technology development today. It seems the uber-rich are winning. But do we need to be at their mercy or can we ?rebel? through programming (the rise of the Raspberry Pi for instance) or is this just for people in the know as it once was for the hobbyist/experimenter of yesteryear. In our hurried lives, to stay above water, we want the ?simplified? way of using computer technology ? to do what we want, when we want. Whether one is a software or hardware person seems to me to be irrelevant except if you are knowledgeable about technology, i.e., know how it works. I used to know how my Coleco ADAM worked but I don?t know how my Dell Inspiron 15R works. Nor do I really are. It does what I want it to do. Well, most of the time! Is this not what all of us want? Murray--

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Xxdp device drivers

by roe＠liveblockauctions.com

Does anyone have macro-11 source code for _any_ xxdp 2.5 device driver? Dl.sys, anything at all. I want to create a new driver...

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CompacTape/DLT Media

by tshoppa＠wmata.com

> I'm trying to restore a Data General MV/2500 (c.1989) which contains what DG referred to as a '130MB CTD'. It's actually a Fujistu M2451A. > My question is: what is the latest generation of DLTs that I can use in the drive? Will DLTtape III cartridges work or do I have to try to find CompacTape IIs from somewhere? I know that TK50's and TK70's cannot use DLTtape III cartridges. Coercivity of the magnetic media is wrong. Some of the mid-generation DLT drives can read TK50 and TK70 CompacTapes but cannot write them. I don't have any actual experience with the M2451A. I am guessing that it is something like a DEC TZ30. For all I know, maybe Fujitsu made the TZ30! It "smells" different than the DEC and Quantum drives and I've often wondered about that. That's a tough nut, restoring a system to use a tape drive for which you have no media. If you had old media to read, then it would be far easier to justify some effort. Is the M2451A a SCSI drive? Just hoping out loud that it is, and that the DG OS doesn't care about drive maker, in which case you could use a far more available cartridge drive and carts instead. Tim.

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Depraz/Digimouse/P4 mouse

by BHuntsman＠mail2.cu-portland.edu

Anyone on here have one of these? Anyone manage to get one working on a standard serial port, or have the pinout? Thanks! -Ben

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