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by mcwood＠nefkom.net

Hi Chuck, Thank you for the hints. I have a NEC FD1165 which looks different to the BAS6105. Haven't opened the Basf 6105 yet. I'll try to make some pictures to show the differences. The NEC FD1165 is a nice drive. I took it from my Apollo DN300 drive shoebox. No belt mechanism running with 220V/110V. It worked quite some time perfectly. No read errors like my Shugart 851 in reading disks from 1985. But the suddenly the NEC stopped working caused by a rubber part which turned into glue. That glue locked the head mechanism. I remove that glue. Heads are going down again but now I get read errors. Here's a guy from Japan with the same problem (pls. look a image 7) : http://www.geocities.jp/tangoorisyoku/ku__page/ku_cgs/98_mente/8inch_FD1165A /1165A_mente.html I hope to find some time to look at the NEC1165 service manual to perhaps check the head alignement with a scope. The manual shows a procedure how to do that. I don't have an alignement floppy. I hope good floppy from my stock might work. Best Regards, Marc Message: 16 Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2013 16:54:52 -0800 From: Chuck Guzis <cclist at sydex.com> To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts <cctalk at classiccmp.org> Subject: Re: Manual for BASF6105 8inch Flp drive Message-ID: <5125705C.10107 at sydex.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed On 02/20/2013 12:33 PM, Marc Holz wrote: > I have a BASF 6105 8inch floppy drive and would like to find information on > the jumper settings. According my list, the 6105 is really a rebadged NEC 1165. You can find a basic manual here: http://www.vintagecomputer.net/fjkraan/comp/divcomp/doc/NEC_FD1165_8_inch_fl oppy.pdf Marcus has a maintenance manual on his site: http://maben.homeip.net/static/S100/NEC/diskette/NEC%20FD1165%20Maintenance. pdf Let me know if this isn't right so I can correct my notes. --Chuck

13 years, 1 month

Huge lot of Univac/Unisys DCP / System-80 series manuals available soon

by p.gebhardt＠ymail.com

Hi list, I'm almost done with the scanning of the 25-30 Sperry-Univac/Unisys binders regarding OS/3, System-80 and DCP-hardware, I got from a company years ago. Parts of it are already online on bitsavers, the rest will be made available to Al at the end of year. I just wanted to make sure the content is scanned and thus saved and as I don't have the hardware and therefore no use for it, I'd like to give the documentation away to somebody who is interested in that. I'll give the documents to whoever seems most approriate from my point of view. Hints to institutions or persons not being on the list and favourable from you point of you are welcome, too. Documents are located in Germany. Shipping would cost and need to be organised if you don't want to pick up, but I'd help with organisation, if possible. Kind regards, Pierre ? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Pierre's collection of classic computers : http://classic-computing.dyndns.org/

13 years, 1 month

MRRT-11 anyone?

by bob＠jfcl.com

> John Wilson wrote: >I thought it was just a conditional assembly of regular RT-11? >(MRRT$ conditionals in RMONSJ.MAC V4.0 for one). Of course that's >not the same as an actual distribution... I finally got a copy of the MRRT manual to read (thanks, Steve!) and it does require that you have RT11 v4 to build MRRT. I'm sure a lot of the sources were shared, but it looks like there were at least some components (e.g. MRTGEN, DLLOAD) that were unique to MRRT11. There must have been an extra diskette or tape that you had to get from DEC that had the MRRT components. So I'm still stuck looking for a copy - if anybody has it or has seen it, I'd love a pointer. Thanks, Bob Armstrong

13 years, 1 month

Unknown disk cartridge + drive

by cc＠informatik.uni-stuttgart.de

Hi, can someone identify this disk cartridge and drive? http://computermuseum.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de/dev/tmp/unknown/ I don't have better quality photos. The cartridge is made by Dysan and is about 8" in size. Christian

13 years, 1 month

Unknown disk cartridge + drive

by shadoooo＠gmail.com

I think it's a removable cartridge for Lark disk from CDC. They were strange units with a fixed and a removable disk on the same spindle, with two couple of heads moved by the same linear motor. You could access the fixed/removable disks as separate units. The units were used also in Honeywell machines. I have two units in my depot, but unfortunately no cartridge. I only had a picture of it, and it seems very similar, if not identical. I also have a DEC RC25 unit, designed with the same concept. maybe this cartridge could fit there as well... Could you take some other picture, and possibly the exact size? Do you have also the drive unit? If you can do nothing with this cartridge, in case you don't need it, it could be interesting for me to have it... Andrea

13 years, 1 month

Shipping cost USA >> Europe , heavy item ??

by gerardcjat＠free.fr

Hello All, Does someone known / has experience, with shipping HEAVY items ( 120 lbs ) From States to Europe ?? Cost and which carrier would be recommanded ?? My question is mainly about SHIPPING COST only, ( packaging cost excluded ). Thanks

13 years, 1 month

Hyperterm for Altair 680b

by mtapley＠swri.edu

At 12:00 -0600 2/20/13, Allison wrote: >I've used a FTSB USB to serial... Is this shorthand for "FTDI" or is there another manufacturer? -- - Mark 210-379-4635 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Large Asteroids headed toward planets inhabited by beings that don't have technology adequate to stop them: Think of it as Evolution in Fast-Forward.

13 years, 1 month

Hyperterm for Altair 680b

by ajp166＠verizon.net

On 02/20/2013 07:47 AM, Bill Sudbrink wrote: > Nick Allen wrote: >> anyone ever use a USB/Serial cable to connect to an Altair? I am trying >> to connect my 680b to my windows 7 computer via hyper-terminal to no >> avail. Any special settings I should be aware for terminal settings >> (currently using 9600, 8 data bits, 1 stop bits, NONE for parity and >> flow control). >> >> Also, anyone know where I can get the ROM files for a 680b? > Have you examined the 680 schematics (available on the web)? > A 680 can be configured in a number of ways, including various > baud rates, signaling schemes (rs-232 is just one of three > choices) and the firmware may be ASCII or Baudot. You need to > do much more investigation than "just plug it in". > > Bill S. > I've used a FTSB USB to serial for connect to several macines, I do have several adaptors to get te right levels and connector as the cable I have is 3.3V LVCMOS. Other than the correct levels there are no issues. I have no idea where the Baudot thing comes from as those terminals were rarely used with micros and the standard asr-33 and adm/vt05/vt52/H19 terminals were all ascii. Most of the serial USB to serial cables need a driver to match the OS to the cable. Linux you use minicom and the correct ttyUSB port. Note the cable must be able to do slow rates like 110, 300, 600,1200 as most of the older machines will generally not keep up with 2400 or faster (for most modem programs). Allison Allison

13 years, 1 month

FS: HP rx2600 "Montecito" along with parts and more

by marcogb＠xs4all.nl

My last IPF system has been powered down and is staying that way. (Except for possible Telnet, SSH, etc. 'test drives'.) I don't need/ want it anymore. I paid a pretty spicy sum for it (on a student's income, driven by fiery enthusiasm), originally. /Yes/, the fact that I'm offering these items for sale here means also that I'm willing to ship internationally, naturally as long as it's covered by the buyer. The object is located in the Netherlands. The rx2620 can be delivered with the following: - dual-processor Intel Itanium 9015 (SL9PC, released in 2007), "Montecito" dual-core and hyperthreading processors with VT-x at 1400 MHz with 12 Mbytes cache (up to ~533 MHz FSB, per Intel ARK), installed in late 2011 (brand-new out of the box); - up to 24 Gbytes ECC-registered DDR-SDRAM (I can also lower to just 8 Gbytes); - HP iLO/MP card, with on-board ATi Radeon 7000 and permanent SSH license; - LSI 1030 dual-channel Ultra320 SCSI LVD/SE, on-board, with external HD68 connector included; - HP rx2600/rx2620 card cage with 4-slot PCI-X riser board; - Intel i82546 dual GbE NIC, on-board; - HP slimline stock DVD-ROM drive (also burner available, which I will happily 'hack' into the system; no, not an original part, but it seemed to work, certainly as far as 'reading' goes... never really found the opportunity or excuse to burn anything from VMS). There are loads of PCI, PCI-X, rx2600/rx2620 and even AGP+PCI-X mixed zx6000-type card cage available (the latteris not officially supported, but you can have it for free, with a FireGL X1, HP-UX/ Windows audio card and 'official' HP IEEE-1394a FireWire card included, for HP-UX, Linux, FreeBSD, Windows for IA-64 or whatever, if you should care for that). In terms of PCI (3.3 V) and PCI-X options: USB 2.0 (NEC), LSI 1030 "FusionMPT" Ultra320 SCSI LVD/SE HBAs, Broadcom BCM5700-series GbE NICs (including one or more AXP-compatible DEGXA original, DEGXA mod.'ed and a DEGX2 mod.'ed), various rather interesting 'combo' cards, for FC (850 nm, MMF, LC; HBA) and GbE (copper, NIC) and Ultra320 SCSI LVD/SE (via VHDCI) and GbE (copper, NIC). I also have a whole stack (6 or 7 of HP/Exar/Neterion Xframe 10GbE NICs, which I used in my rx2600, rx2620 and DS15 systems and made MSCP quite 'interesting'. Not to forget, non-"Mobility"/VMS-compatible Radeon 7500 PCI (and AGP, for what it's worth... perhaps in the ES47?) I also have plenty of 'spare' items, like hot-swap zx6000/rx2600/ rx2620 type PSUs, PC2100 ECC RDIMMs, an M-cable, Itanium 2 (e.g. "McKinley", "Madison", "Madison-9M", etc. era socket, like in zx2000, zx6000/rx2600/rx2620, etc.) "Processor Tool", a bunch of HP 3 1/2" HDD 'ring'-type sleds/brackets and more. In other words, if there is anything you're looking for, I may just have it and want to get rid of it. I will also upload some pictures, in a follow-up, and can make more on request. - MG

13 years, 1 month

used test and measurement equipment

by sales＠elecplus.com

Found a site today that might be useful to some of you. http://www.used-line.com/ There are dealers world-wide. Cindy Croxton _____ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2899 / Virus Database: 2639/6119 - Release Date: 02/20/13

13 years, 1 month

Manual for BASF6105 8inch Flp drive

by mcwood＠nefkom.net

Hello, I have a BASF 6105 8inch floppy drive and would like to find information on the jumper settings. The drive is attached with a custom build cable to a linux pc to produce dmk images. The cable worked already with a Shugart 851. Only one side of the 6105 drive is working, DS 8 inch floppy are not been read successfully (only Side0 is accessible). Might caused by jumper or the drive is out of order. I hope that someone on the list might have a technical manual of that drive. Marc

13 years, 1 month

Xerox Smalltalk

by lproven＠gmail.com

Does anyone know of anywhere I might be able to read some reasonably detailed accounts of the operating systems of the Xerox Smalltalk workstations and Lisp Machines?

13 years, 1 month

Aviion was Re: Data General Nova

by rampaginggreenhulk＠yahoo.com

I saw what I believe was a Motorola based Aviion tower in a junk pile in a scrap pile a few years ago. I remember asking the list if anyone wanted me to retrieved it. There were no replies.

13 years, 1 month

Totally shameless plug - Atari Book now available for immediate purchase...

by curt＠atarimuseum.com

Well, after 7 years of research and over a year of writing and editing the book - Atari Inc. Business is Fun is now available for immediate purchase. https://www.createspace.com/3928085 800 Pages in total with nearly 300 pages of just memo's, court documents as well as rare and never before seen photo's and sketches. Told by the employees who worked there and cross checked by others as well as with supporting document evidence, this is a true recounting of Atari from its inception in the halls of AMPEX in 1969 by an engineer and a visionary that turn their efforts in a $2 billion juggernaut that then implodes into a $538 million death spiral by June 1984. Lots of detailed side stories such as "Rick Rats Big Cheese Restaurants" which would become the famous Chuck E Cheese franchise. How Atari had its own "Xerox PARC" in the Sierra Foothills and one of their first projects was a wireless version of arcade PONG to a much more detailed recounting of Steve Jobs time while at Atari, with far better details than what is told in Walter Isaacson's book, plus the true and accurate recounting of the creation of Breakout with input from Steve Wozniak who contributor to the chapter. Also the full story of the dealings and double-dealings between Atari and Amiga from November 1983 through June 1984 before Jack Tramiel even steps into the picture, including never before seen photo's, documents and court records. If you're looking for a gift for yourself or someone you know, you can order now for immediate shipment, or if your not in a rush and just want something to kick back and enjoy during the winter, order for January 2013 delivery and receive a $5.00 discount when you purchase: http://tinyurl.com/bs7kor8 Coming this time next year will be book #2 - Atari Corp. Business is War which will detail Atari from June 1984 through 1998... Curt

13 years, 1 month

I hate doing this - Mimic guess where

by sellam＠vintagetech.com

Hey, I used to have one of those. In fact, I used to have THIS VERY SAME UNIT. <sigh> -- Sellam Ismail VintageTech ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintagetech.com Whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap...The truth is always simple.

13 years, 1 month

Datapoint 2200 CRT repair

by nick.allen＠comcast.net

I am sending some Datapoint 2200 CRTs to Thomas for repair. They have to retool their shop for this repair, therefor BULK is our friend. Anyone want to get in on a group rate?

13 years, 1 month

Spartan Mimic (was Re: I hate doing this - Mimic guess where)

by ethan.dicks＠gmail.com

On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 12:08 PM, Sellam Ismail <sellam at vintagetech.com> wrote: > > Hey, I used to have one of those. In fact, I used to have THIS VERY SAME > UNIT. I used to have one, too. I got a pre-release unit for testing. Not sure what happened to it. Have the manual, have the plastic shell, but inexplicably (for me, at least), no boards. I think somewhere I must have a 1541 on a shelf with the Apple II disk board (it wedge into the C= drive case between the regular "DOS board" and the drive mechanism, and provided an Apple II 20-pin drive connector so you could just plug it right into any Apple II disk interface, brand-name or clone. It was an interesting beast, but IMO came to the market a bit late and a bit expensive for what you got. It did work. I ran lots of software, especially games, on it and I don't recall any huge problems (maybe a few minor ones). It has its own 6502 and ROMs and video circuit, so really, it's an Apple II clone with a built-in video MUX and disk mux that borrows a few things (like the keyboard) from the "host". There were keystrokes to switch which "personality" owned the video output and disk and listened to the keyboard, but as long as both CPUs weren't trying to simultaneously do disk I/O, their code kept running. I used this implementation "feature" to do an interesting thing - Infocom games run from RAM except when they need to read in new code and text from the floppy. In particular, they don't do disk I/O while waiting for the user to type more commands. I booted up one side (probably the Apple first) and started, say, "Enchanter", then once I scrolled through the text to the first prompt, replaced the Apple "Enchanter" disk with a C-64 "Sorcerer" disk and started that game. Once that game rolled through all the text to the first prompt, I swapped disks and active CPUs again and could alternate play from one machine to the other. If I'd had the money at the time to afford a dedicated Apple II drive, I could have made _that_ its Drive 0 and not swapped disks, just keyboard and video. It was still a fun way to abuse the system. Once Apple IIs started getting really cheap (by the time the GS was out, not many people wanted a crufty old II+ anymore), I got one of those and shelved the Mimic. I wish I knew why I removed the mainboard and what I did with it. They didn't make very many of them so I doubt I'll be able to replace it. I do have the original docs and Apple-side disc for it. At some point, I should probably make an archive of it since someone is probably interested in them. -ethan

13 years, 1 month

Tek 4317

by reiche＠ls-al.eu

Hi all, I was wondering about the Tektronix 4317 machine. The only information I'm able to find online is the catalog introducing it: http://bitsavers.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de/pdf/tektronix/\ 44xx/4300_Series_1988_Catalog.pdf The rest inside that bitsavers PDF (or Bits corner for that matter) don't even mention the 4300 series. I gather it should run UTek 3.1, but where could I try to find the media (which is 5.25" floppy I think) for that O/S? Does anyone know of the connections which can be made on such a machine? Kind regards, If it has Reiche wheels or ------------------ a skirt, you can't http://ls-al.eu/~reiche afford it.

13 years, 1 month

Altair & Cromemco systems for sale

by sellam＠vintagetech.com

I have the following systems for sale. I am taking offers for the next week or so and will sell each for the highest offer received then. Description and then URL with photos follows. Altair 8800 S/N 220354K MITS CPU BD REV 0 MITS 88-2 SIO REV 0 MITS DISK BD 1 REV 0-X3 MITS DISK #2 REV 0-X2 Processor Technology 3P+S I/O http://vintagetech.com/photos/S-100/Altair%208800/ Altair 8800a S/N 225341K MITS CPU BD REV 0 MITS 88-2 SIO REV 0 MITS DISK BD 1 REV 0 X4 MITS DISK #2 REV 1 Ithaca Audio IA-1100 http://vintagetech.com/photos/S-100/Altair%208800a/ Altair 8800b S/N 300-000270 MITS 8800B CPU BD REV 0 PCC TURNKEY MODULE PCC S-100 INTERFACE CEPC 4-SIO-1 http://vintagetech.com/photos/S-100/Altair%208800b%20%231/ Altair 8800b MITS 8800B CPU BD REV 0 MITS Altair 8800b REV 0 TURNKEY MODULE MITS DISK BD 1 REV 0-X3 MITS DISK #2 REV 0-X2 MITS 88-2 SIO REV 0 Heuristics Inc Speechlab Cromemco D+7A I-O http://vintagetech.com/photos/S-100/Altair%208800b%20%232/ Cromemco System Three I'm still looking for the boards for this system. Photos are of enclosure and drives. http://vintagetech.com/photos/S-100/Cromemco%20System%20Three/ Cromemco Z2-D I'm still looking for the boards for this system. Photos are of enclosure and drives. http://vintagetech.com/photos/S-100/Cromemco%20Z-2D/ Heathkit H11 + H27 I need to get the configuration of this system and will post it to the directory with the photos later today. http://vintagetech.com/photos/S-100/Heathkit%20H11/ Thanks! -- Sellam Ismail VintageTech ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintagetech.com Whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap...The truth is always simple.

13 years, 1 month

Looking for 'Complete Works' by Toplevel Computing

by dave.thearchivist＠gmail.com

I have a couple of distributions of hard disk (and other computer hardware) information in a brochure ware form CD but really it seems it is a database/spreadsheet thing like works/excel. It has jumper settings and diagrams for many disks etc and it would be nice to extract the data from the tables It has small database tables in a .idd format which seem to match up to a package 'Complete Works' by Toplevel Computing Dave Caroline

13 years, 1 month

I hate doing this - Mimic guess where

by rampaginggreenhulk＠yahoo.com

------------------------------ On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 3:15 AM PST Chris Pye wrote: >I am probably one of the worst offenders of collecting "useless" and "impractical" machines, and to be honest I would probably buy it if it was close by and cheap enough.. I just can't fathom why anybody made it, especially at that time (from what I remember it was late to market). Surely it would have cost as much or more than an Apple II clone, and knowing how incompatible some Apple II clones were, how did this machine go running from a C64. > >Actually after having a second look I am totally intrigued about the design, did it have it's own 6502? You'll have to do your own research on that (my guess though is definitely. The Commie besides has a 6510). I know (or remember) nothing specific, just that it was advertised forever it seemed in Compute and whatnot.

13 years, 1 month

cctech Digest, Vol 114, Issue 27

by tmfdmike＠gmail.com

> Message: 8 > Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 10:58:48 -0600 > From: Hans Van Slooten <vansloot at gmail.com> > To: "General Discussion: On-Topic Posts Only" <cctech at classiccmp.org> > Subject: Symbolics 3640 on eBay > Message-ID: > <CANf3X5Ve1F6fn23LbAviTROUEnBj3U3EhtWVrpbAbtUTD2Pj7g at mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > http://www.ebay.com/itm/Complete-Functional-Symbolics-3640-Artificial-Intel… > ? Oooooh. Bid placed! Thanks Hans; that's exactly what I need for the front-end for my Connection Machine CM-200!!!! Mike http://www.corestore.org

13 years, 1 month

I hate doing this - Mimic guess where

by rampaginggreenhulk＠yahoo.com

http://www.ebay.com/itm/111013285214?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984… There's already ample bids on it, so I guess I shouldn't feel that bad. The first time I've ever *seen* one. Heard about it all the time back in the day. Looks like the old C64 case. Being a Commie expansion option makes it more collectible in my eyes then the fact that it runs the other s/w. Would be nice to have one. Sure would be nice. Probably not this week.

13 years, 1 month

Saving Dick Smith software for posterity

by terry＠webweavers.co.nz

Anyone use a Semi-virtual diskettes? Sometimes they are very handy devices. http://www.classic-computers.org.nz/blog/2013-02-19-saving-dick-smith-softw…

13 years, 1 month

I hate doing this - Mimic guess where

by rampaginggreenhulk＠yahoo.com

------------------------------ On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 7:00 PM PST Chris Pye wrote: >That thing is totally ridiculous! what would make you say such a thing!!!??? it seems people have to be continually reminded that this is a nostalgia group. and as such it doesn't really matter if something works or not!! let's hear it for light and airy vaporware!!

13 years, 1 month

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