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On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 11:04 AM PST Allison wrote:
>On 02/28/2013 11:45 AM, ben wrote:
>>
>> That "low price is best trend" I would change. For me a modern programing tool is "text editor" and 80x24 text screen on 15" display.
>> Explain to me why a cheap PC in my home can't keep up to the net (windows 7) and a credit card computer can do better for surfing.
>> Ben.
>>
>
>Simple task specialization, and task overhead limiting. That and in7 is just a bigger pig.
>
>The average PC has many tasks running and even then unless the CPU is a pig and the graphics
>unassisted doing a web browse is usually limited to only how fast all the data gets there.
>
>However for 80x24 text terminal the cpu overhead is very low and the graphics load (screen)
>lower, linux give you that if you don't run the GUI and its very fast. I know this from running
>and ARM7 based system at 300mhz and for text and compiling code for itself the limiting factor
>is actually the disk subystem (a micro SD chip).
>
>To e the raspberry-pi is a great computing resource for embedded tasks.
>
>Allison
What about security? Does Rpi employ a firewall and virus scanning? And since the pi uses sd storage, it might make more sense to compare it's internet capabilities with a tablet or smart phone.
[snip]
> Message: 18
> Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2013 14:05:30 -0800 (PST)
> From: Chris Tofu <rampaginggreenhulk at yahoo.com>
> To: cctalk at classiccmp.org
> Subject: Re: Raspberry Pi
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> On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 11:38 AM PST Tony Duell wrote:
>
>>It has been said that now that calcualtors are everywhere, kids do not
>>need to leanr how to do long multiplication and division. I am nto sure I
>>accept that (given that long multiplciaton and division have applciations
>>in manipulating agebraic expresions too). But I am convinced that if you
>>are goign to assume that clacualtors are everywhere you should teach kids
>>why said calculators do not always give the right answers and how to
>>avoid such problems.
>>
>>-tony
>
> When I was in hs, calculators weren't seen until or 12th grade. When it was
> impractical and too time consuming to work out every log, trig function, or
> laborious arithmetic operation. Kids have been bringing calculators to
> school for 2 decades probably, and I for one see that as a travesty.
>
Just last year, I had to show a young Engineer in my office how to use
my 1983-vintage Radio Shack scientific calculator! :P
He's young enough to either have mostly used smart phone apps for such
things rather than *real* calculators, or he'd forgotten how to use a
scientific calculator because of his app use/dependence.
Of course, another Engineer in my office discovered the hard way that
his calculator app was faulty when calculating a trig function (Sine,
I think) for a problem. Fortunately, a real calculator convinced him
that his app had a bug (a RAD to DEG conversion programming error) --
he immediately found a better calculator app.
Bob
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On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 11:59 AM PST Tony Duell wrote:
>BUT this will not coverrt scan rates. You end up with a composite signal
>with an 18kHz horizotnal scan frequency if you start with an MDA singal.
>Some monuitors can be tweked ot handle that, many cannot. Of those that
>can, they might not like it too much,m you are stressing the horizotnal
>ouptu transisotr and flyback transoformer a bit.
Are said xsistors readily replaceable with one that can handle a wider range? What ultimately happens if you push a flyback too far? Burnt winding?
>> Have you tried beeping? I think rom BASIC supports beeping or some
>
>The cassette mtoor control commands (is that MOTOR ON and MOTOR OFF?) are
>suitable too.
Bulb/s?
>When I had a floppy disk controller problem on mt PC/XT, I put the board
>on an extender, booted to ROM BASIC and used port acccess commanedst to
>fiddle eith the control registers on the FDC board. A bit of work with a
>logic probe and I found the faulty IC.
The only logic probe I ever owned, still own I think, was only good to 1mhz I think. Probably suitable for what you mentioned, but not everything on a pc obviously. Address and data is pulsed at what frequency?
At 12:00 -0600 3/1/13, Ben wrote:
>I'd use a COCO II computer. You don't need to run the software. :)
>Ben.
Maybe not for recording Win7, but for learning BASIC, this
turns out to be good advice. One from Cindy's warehouse (after taking
off the dusty top case and washing it and the keys, and buying an
RCA-to-"F"-connector adaptor for the video) has spent part of last
night and *all* of this morning (since before I got up until after
noon) teaching Extended Color Basic to my 12-year-old son.
WOOT.
Maybe I'm dreaming, but I may finally have found at least a partial
antidote to "MineCraft".
Fortunately, I already own a cassette recorder and cable and the
EDTASM cartridge, and Drivewire 3 with OS-9 images runs on our G3
iMac, so assuming that talks to the CoCo, he's got room to grow for a
while. I suppose I should try to get Drivewire 4 running on the iMac
...
For reference:
http://www.cloud9tech.com/
Cassette recorder/cable (and many other goodies)
http://www.frontiernet.net/~mmarlette/Cloud-9/Software/DriveWire3.html
DriveWire 3, runs on the iMac but haven't tested communications yet
https://sites.google.com/site/drivewire4/
DriveWire 4, not running for me on Mac OS X.4
http://www.altex.com/F-Female-to-RCA-Male-Adapter-7530-P140726.aspx
Adapts channel 3 RF-encoded video from CoCo 2 RCA jack to "F" connector
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interested in one of these, primarily to run RISC OS. What is the
recommended version, price, and place to get a Raspberry Pi from?
I assume I want a "2.0 Model B 512Mb"? I've found a seller on eBay
with this and they include a case for $57.
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>Message: 11
>Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2013 16:24:14 -0500
>From: Ethan Dicks < ethan.dicks at gmail.com >
>
>On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 3:11 PM, Fred Cisin <cisin at xenosoft.com> wrote:
>> On Thu, 28 Feb 2013, Cindy Croxton Electronics Plus wrote:
>>> I have never seen Autocad for a 5150, but there are color games for the
>>> 5150, and if you have a color monitor, the games have code in them to set
>>> the colors and resolution...
>>
>> For some reason, CGA AutoCad never really caught on.
>
>I'm sure there's very little if any CAD for CGA. The oldest program I
>personally used was OrCAD, and that was in the 5170 PC-AT days, and
>that was, IIRC, EGA, or at least that's what was on the machine I was
>using it on.
>
>-ethan
The first half dozen or so versions of AutoCAD could run at CGA resolution. I ran my first version of AutoCAD (2.08, Release 5) on an XT clone with a CGA card. Later, I was able to afford a Techmar Graphics Master. I could run that at 708 by 708 monochrome on the same XT clone. I still have the software, but unfortunately no longer have the Techmar card. I have also run AutoCAD 2.14 (Release 6) on an HP 200LX palmtop, which is basically CGA. It can be done, but the limited resolution does hamper what you can do.
I also have a copy of AutoCAD 1.4 (Release 4, 1983) that was customized by John Walker to run on an Otrona Attache 8:16 for an archaeologist colleague at the University of Chicago. The Otrona has a strange software emulation of CGA!
Bob
>> How would such late versions of Windoze wind up on the other 5150?
>> Wonders never cease.
>
>The other 5150 could run a CD-ROM drive. There are a few complications to
>doing so, such as needing DOS 3.10 or above if you don't want to write
>your own CD-ROM drivers, etc. I've never put a DVD drive on a 5150, but
>I don't think that the differences would matter much.
Better yet, let's test the premise in a non anachronistic real world way by transferring Winders 7 to o roughly 126,000 cassette tapes. You can start w/o me. I'll join in in about 6 months.
My advice is to get the fastest 8088 you can find.
I've been storing my PDP-8s, PDP-11s, disk drive units, floppies,
etc., in my garage at about 45% relative humidity in an attempt to
prevent corrosion/deterioration. Finances are about to force me to
turn off my dehumidifier out there and I can't bring the *complete* machines
into the house.
Which components, modules, or other related items should I be most
concerned about protecting from high humidity? Which should I move
into my house? Magnetic core modules? Disk packs? Floppies? Etc.?
Any recommendations?
Thanks,
Bob
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On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 6:56 PM PST Chuck Guzis wrote:
>A friend and I marketed a replacement for the MDA card on a 5150/5160 that used a Z80 and a bunch of parts to allow the PC user to replace their display card and hook up a VT-100/220 style terminal--and switch or split-screen the PC data with other serial data (say, from a minicomputer) on the terminal. It also took the terminal keyboard codes and translated them to 5150 scan codes. It had a certain appeal, but wasn't fast enough to work effectively with a 5170 and would not do graphics.
>
>I still have the board (and a few abandoned prototypes).
I want them. All of them.
>> Better yet, let's test the premise in a non anachronistic real world way by transferring Winders 7 to o roughly 126,000 cassette tapes. You can start w/o me. I'll join in in about 6 months.
>>
>> My advice is to get the fastest 8088 you can find.
>>
>>
>
>I'd use a COCO II computer. You don't need to run the software. :)
>Ben.
Who said anything about running it!
>
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On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 10:18 AM PST Cindy Croxton Electronics Plus wrote:
>Why can't you just write a small batch program that references the driver
>and the necessary commands, and put it on the startup disk? If not enough
>room on a 360K, then you can use a second floppy. We used to do this for
>customers all the time, 15 years ago. Also included small start up menus,
>etc.
Drivers = extension rom code? Interesting proposition. I'll wager it's not very straitforward. Numerous graphics cards had drivers for say Autocad and whatnot. But that's entirely different from the startup code needed to set up initial register values and whatever on the cards chips.
It seems what you're saying is the pc will startup w/o video (usually returns an error, but you can use a pc w/a terminal off the rs232 port, just don't ask me the particulars). Then initialize the video card as dos is starting. Seems possible, would be interesting to see someone do it.
>-----Original Message-----
>From: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org]
>On Behalf Of madodel
>Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2013 11:48 AM
>To: General at proxyz14.mailnet.ptd.net; Discussion at proxyz14.mailnet.ptd.net
>:On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
>Subject: Re: IBM 5150
>
>On 2/28/13 9:43 AM, TeoZ wrote:
>> The ROM say IBM 1981, this unit must be early, Serial # 0155185 (did
>> they start from #1?).
>
>I was told by David Both that he used the very first PC off the assembly
>line to write the PC Documentation. When I asked what happened to PC #1
>after he was done with it he said as far as he knew the same thing they did
>to all their internal use machines at the time. Stripped it for parts for
>warranty repairs.
>
>Mark
>
>
>> So I guess I have to find an original IBM CGA card then and all is well?
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christopher Satterfield"
>> <christopher1400 at gmail.com>
>> To: "General Discussion: On-Topic Posts Only" <cctech at classiccmp.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2013 3:53 AM
>> Subject: Re: IBM 5150
>>
>>
>> I believe your VGA problem has to do with the older IBM ROMs, I
>> believe you need the '82 BIOS to use a VGA card or any card with it's
>> own BIOS, and being as I have a 16-64 KB 5150 with the newer BIOS I
>> assume yours will work also, saying you have an EPROM programmer.
>>
>> --
>> C:\win
>> Bad Command Or File Name
>> C:\
>>
>>
>
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Dear cctalk:
Please add the following post to your daily digest. Please let me know if
you have any questions or if there are any issues.
Very best regards,
Mike
*Wanted to purchase: Systems containing Motorola 88110 Processor or HP
PA7100LC Processor: *
? Motorola MVME197DP or MVME197SP single board computers utilizing
the original 88110 processor, or any system that utilized the Motorola
88110 processor (such as the MOTOROLA 900, 900R workstations or other
company?s workstations (e.g., Data General AViiON, Harris Real Time Unix
Servers)), originally sold in the United States on or before August 16,
1994. Proof of sale (receipt or the like) is highly preferred. Also
interested in technical documentation on any of the above that shows a
breakout of the serial number on the MVME197 (SP or DP) or on the 900 or
900R or on other systems that used the Motorola 88110 processor in order to
decipher date of manufacture, country of manufacture, etc.
? HP Systems containing the PA7100LC processor, such as the 9000
E-class business servers (Models E25, E35, E45, E55), or the HP 9000 Series
700 Models 712/60 and 712/80i, or HP 9000 Models 715/64, 715/100, 725/100
or HP 9000 Model 743 or HP 9000 model 748i, or HP 3000 Series 9X8 servers
such as HP 3000 Series 918 LX, HP 3000 Series 918 RX, HP 3000 Series 928
LX, HP 3000 Series 928 RX, HP 3000 Series 968 LX, HP 3000 Series 968 RX, HP
3000 Series 978 LX, HP 3000 Series 978 RX, originally sold in the United
States on or before August 16, 1994. Proof of sale (receipt or the like)
is highly preferred. Also interested in technical documentation on any of
the above that shows a breakout of the serial number in order to decipher
date of manufacture, country of manufacture, etc.
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On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 4:21 PM PST David Riley wrote:
>On Feb 28, 2013, at 3:45 PM, Chris Tofu wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> But the burning question is could you fiddle with the extension rom code and use it as a loadable device driver? After all you could transfer rom BASIC to a disk file and run it that way.
>
>Probably not; extension ROMs usually provide services to the BIOS (or
>hook interrupts used by the BIOS and run in place of the BIOS
>routines) while DOS drivers tend to provide services directly to DOS.
>It's akin to the difference between a driver and an application (but
>obviously not exactly the same).
I would have guessed extension roms contain raw independent code. Largely just writing values to port addtesses
>Whether you could run a script from autoexec.bat or config.sys to
>execute expansion ROM code after DOS boot is another question, but
>I have no idea how well that would work after the BIOS has already
>handed over control to the OS (I suspect not so well, but I don't
>know for sure). You can certainly try jumping to the code location
>in DEBUG or the like.
Which lead me to ask what a video device driver is/does. Presumably when you type Mode co,80 iirc, or screen 1 in basic, you're assigning different values to ports ie fiddling with say the 6845's registers, thereby creating another screen on the fly. Unless I'm wrong. But if not, isn't that kind of what a dd does? There's bound to be more then that going on. But code is code, regardless of what stage of the game you're in, start up, boot up, os fully installed. The os only has as much control as you allow it. You communicate with dos, but s/w at least can manipulate the h/w. Which is why s/w has too much power under dos. When dos transfers control to a bunch of code, it's boss.
>
>- Dave
>
>
The next Kerrville warehouse day is March 2, starting 9AM. Those who have
come have gleaned many treasures J
Please let me know if you plan to come, and what areas you are interested
in, so I can start digging things out for you.
Bring a truck, bring a U-Haul, I need to clear some things out!
Old Sperry server, RA82 hard drive, lots of terminals and keyboards, old
memory, what are people looking for?
Old mono and color 9-pin monitors, early 15-pin monitors, daisy wheel and
dot matrix printers, etc.
Most of this old equipment does not take to UPS shipping very well.
Cindy Croxton
Electronics Plus
1613 Water Street
Kerrville, TX 78028
(830)792-3400 phone (830)792-3404 fax
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But the burning question is could you fiddle with the extension rom code and use it as a loadable device driver? After all you could transfer rom BASIC to a disk file and run it that way.
------------------------------
On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 12:06 PM PST Fred Cisin wrote:
>On Thu, 28 Feb 2013, Cindy Croxton Electronics Plus wrote:
>> Why can't you just write a small batch program that references the driver
>> and the necessary commands, and put it on the startup disk? If not enough
>> room on a 360K, then you can use a second floppy. We used to do this for
>> customers all the time, 15 years ago. Also included small start up menus,
>> etc.
>
>The "driver" is a ROM. You'd have to start by writing a LOADABLE driver.
>It would be convenient to have another machine on hand while writing it,
>since the "driver" is to get the video to work.
>
>It would be MUCH MUCH easier to install a CGA or MDA card, and contact
>Cindy Croxton in Texas and buy one of her "9-pin monitors".
>
>
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On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 6:18 PM PST Richard wrote:
>
>In article <512FE45E.5000602 at jwsss.com>,
> Jim Stephens <jws at jwsss.com> writes:
>
>> The lack of exploits does not mean there will be none. There are still
>> vulnerabilities which could work on a linux machine as well as any of
>> the PC or Macos ones as well as any.
>
>How quickly people forget that the first major internet
>(unintentional) DDOS attack was all against unix machines.
W/o looking at your citation, I'll guess it was at a time when there was little else on the internet (arpanet?).
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On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 4:33 PM PST David Riley wrote:
>On Feb 28, 2013, at 4:24 PM, Ethan Dicks wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 3:11 PM, Fred Cisin <cisin at xenosoft.com> wrote:
>> On Thu, 28 Feb 2013, Cindy Croxton Electronics Plus wrote:
>>> I have never seen Autocad for a 5150, but there are color games for the
>>> 5150, and if you have a color monitor, the games have code in them to set
>>> the colors and resolution...
>>
>> For some reason, CGA AutoCad never really caught on.
>>
>> I'm sure there's very little if any CAD for CGA. The oldest program I
>> personally used was OrCAD, and that was in the 5170 PC-AT days, and
>> that was, IIRC, EGA, or at least that's what was on the machine I was
>> using it on.
>
>The original AutoCAD (for some degree of the term "original") was
>developed for DOS on 8086 and CP/M-80 (plus early development for
>the TI 9900). John Walker has a document-based history of
>AutoCAD development here:
>
>http://www.fourmilab.ch/autofile/
>
>I think my favorite document is this one:
>
>http://www.fourmilab.ch/autofile/www/section2_10_8.html
>
>I'm still a little upset that we've ended up (OK, not ALL of us)
>with the 8086 as the dominant processor of the computing world.
>
>In any case, I would imagine that the DOS version of AutoCAD in
>1982 wasn't using anything better than CGA. Some of the dev
>notes for AutoCAD-80 note that work got done faster because the
>CP/M port relied on more intelligent output devices that needed
>less low-level control than the IBM and Victor 9000 ports.
>
>
>- Dave
And unless I'm mistaken, Autocad ran on a cga equipped 5150 through version 7 or 9. I think it was 9 I got from the job. And all they had in my dept was the early 5150. Later upgraded it to a hybrid 286.
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On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 12:13 PM PST Fred Cisin wrote:
>On Thu, 28 Feb 2013, Chris Tofu wrote:
>> It seems what you're saying is the pc will startup w/o video (usually
>> returns an error, but you can use a pc w/a terminal off the rs232 port,
>> just don't ask me the particulars). Then initialize the video card as
>> dos is starting. Seems possible, would be interesting to see someone do
>> it.
>
>Yeah, we used to.
>
>It is nice, however, to have boot video!
So why didn't you use a terminal? You can run a video card and a terminal simultaneously, no?
That...might be a good place to look! I may already have every IBeeMer refernce manual known to man (or wimminz). Also got another journal thing on the subject. Where is that thing...
But what I was looking foris more or less a skeleton flowchart description. Maybe if I hum and contemplate Josh's goofy answer, I'll come to the discovery that it's sufficient. NOT.
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On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 2:48 PM PST Cindy Croxton Electronics Plus wrote:
>I will drag out my old 8088 IBM ref book and get back to you on that.
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org]
>On Behalf Of Chris Tofu
>Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2013 3:07 PM
>To: cctalk at classiccmp.org
>Subject: DOS video device drivers
>
>
>What do they consist of? Is a brief description possible. Please.
>
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In my long-running tradition of obscure requests...
Does anyone know if a copy of the Qudos Ltd "MINICHIP" gate array design
tool still exists anywhere?
This was a CAD tool designed for the BBC Micro (with 6502 Second
Processor) which allowed the machine to be used for the design of
Ferranti ULA gate arrays.
There was also a similar tool called "Quickchip" for the Acorn
Archimedes ("A440 only" according to page 22 of this:
http://acorn.chriswhy.co.uk/docs/Acorn/Brochures/Acorn_APP155_HardwareExpan…
)
There's some mention of MINICHIP here:
http://www.chilton-computing.org.uk/inf/literature/newsletters//ecn01-20/p0…http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=GzPpAAAAIAAJ&lpg=PA85&ots=sR_gUYkMii&dq=…
I'm also interested in a copy of any documentation on Ferranti ULAs -
databooks, details on the logic cells (specifically the ULA9C series but
ULA5C may also be useful), design software (or documentation thereof)
and so on. Examples:
Qudos Ltd. - Qudos Logic Array Design Software Manual QED2 (pub. 1986)
Ferranti - Ferranti ULA Design Manual A/F002 (pub. 1981)
Guessing what I'm trying to do is left as an exercise to the reader...
but it involves photos of the Tube ULA layer masks and a copy of
Degate... :P
Thanks,
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http://www.philpem.me.uk/
Got one too :)
But the "box" doesn't work, too well anyway. I just figured I could hit ya up for a rom image if necessary.
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On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 2:04 PM PST Dave Land wrote:
>On 2/28/13 12:43 PM, Chris Tofu wrote:
>>
>> Hey Dave, is your Xerox fully functional?
>>
>>
>Chris,
>
>Yes, it works very well as a matter of fact. :) ..and before you ask,
>that's the one I'll probably hang onto for a while, heh heh!
>
>D-
>
>--
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>Land Computer Service
>
>Check out my site at http://www.landcomp.net
Its not going to be rpi specific but it will be at risk for any standard exploit for services it hosts. You could pwn it via apache, dns, mail server, etc but again its mostly app vulnerabilities and no real blame to the product itself.
For protection it shouldn't have any problem running simple iptables (firewall rules), clamav (on demand virus scanner) if desired or I suppose even snort or other ids/ips although thatd certainly take away from the limited resources.
Either way it should have all the charm of the ported OS.
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On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 12:02 PM PST Fred Cisin wrote:
>> >Anybody remember USES of the SIXTH ROM socket?
>On Thu, 28 Feb 2013, Chris Tofu wrote:
>> Sorry no
>> >"MBI" (probably a different MBI) made a supplement ROM that added
>> >some printer configuration features, etc.
>> >I think that there still is one in my 16K 5150
>
>> Such a big market for them old printers these days
>
>and THAT was the IBM version of the Epson MX80!
>
>> (ok a plotter is a sort of printer and the only way anyone's getting
>> mine is wrenching it from my cold rigor mortised embrace.
>
>Proposed transfer terms? Acceptable.
But the initial assailant/s might wind up as dead as me. Someone else might get it. But not them.
>> >Other "non-standard" ROMs:
>> >Todd Fischer? made a diagnostics ROM, to temporarily replace the BIOS ROM,
>> >and communicate through the serial port!
>> Ooh gimme dat! I want one seriously. What's his phone number?
>
>doubtful that it is still the same AREA CODE
The send out an APB.
>> You can pop the hood and put in a new chip. But what about an extension
>> via the all too popular casette port?
>
>Once you boot up, and go into cassette BASIC, then you can load almost any
>age-appropriate software through the cassette port. You could even
>connect two 5150s through the cassette port and transfer files. Any idea
>how long it would take to transfer Windoze7? (Windoze 3.10 or above will
>not run on a 5150.)
How would such late versions of Windoze wind up on the other 5150? Wonders never cease.
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>Grumpy Ol' Fred cisin at xenosoft.com