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HP 9830 computer and HP 9860 mark-sense card reader

by ethan.dicks＠gmail.com

On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 9:38 PM, Brent Hilpert <hilpert at cs.ubc.ca> wrote: > As Rob pointed out, the 9830 one must be special order to HP though, to > obtain the lazy-T cursor, unless there's some alternative tortured way > they're injecting the T into the display scanning that I'm not seeing. Thank you for mentioning this. I've asked on the list now and again about a computer I used c. 1976 that had a "lazy-T cursor". I was quite young at the time and it was only brought to our school for a special occasion, so my memories are quite fuzzy about it, but having now googled with some useful keywords, I'm reasonably certain that the device I was trying to describe was an HP 9830 with an HP 9860 mark-sense card reader. It seems unlikely I'll ever end up with one, so I'm happy to have found this emulator, updated less than a year ago... http://sourceforge.net/projects/hp9800e/files/go9800/ Thanks again for the very helpful nudge in precisely the correct direction! -ethan

13 years

TMS4100 IC

by hilpert＠cs.ubc.ca

Idle curiousity, does anyone happen to know whether the TMS4100 ROM was a standard off-the-shelf character generator from TI, or was it a generic mask-ROM-to-customer-order, or otherwise have data on it such as it's native size. Full id: TMS4100 ZA 5705 T-04163 7308 <-- date code It's the character generator in the HP9830, arranged for character column scanning order rather than row scanning (7-bits columns at the outputs rather than 5-bit rows). I see three possibilities: - the TI TMS4100 is a character generator ROM - it's a TI TMS 4100 mask ROM, programmed and sold by TI as a character gen - it's a TI TMS 4100 mask ROM, programmed to order for HP I've sorted out the pinout, so it's not a dire need, just curious.

13 years

Looking for 1952 ACM conference proceedings.

by go＠aerodesic.com

I searching for a paper copy of the proceedings of the 1952 ACM conference in Toronto. Our school library only goes back to 1959. To obtain from the ACM (digitally) would cost several hundred dollars, so I'm looking for a real dead-tree copy to avoid copyright infringement issues. I'm unable to obtain digital access through our library because I'm not a faculty/staff/student and don't see becoming one for this purpose :-) If any of you (I know there a few old farts besides me on this list) could part with a copy (even as a 'loaner') I would greatly appreciate it. Other issues in the late 40s through late 50s are also interesting, but current research is focusing on a few items discussed in this particular volume. The ACM was founded in 1947. I'd pay for this as well as return postage if necessary. Thanks, Gary

13 years

Care and Feeding of Vacuum Tubes (Valves)

by wdonzelli＠gmail.com

> Do any special precautions need to be taken with storing vacuum tubes? Are > these something that can simply be tossed in the attic and forgotten about > until needed? I recently got a fair number, and expect to get more at some > point in the future. Temperature extremes are really not a problem, simply because they are made for such extremes during normal operation. Moisture can be a problem in extreme cases, but normally not much of an issue either - mostly the boxes suffer (and metal tubes, I suppose). The only thing that really is bad for tubes is salt spray. Don't store your tubes in a seaside shack. -- Will

13 years

Looking for 1952 ACM conference proceedings.

by go＠ao-cs.com

13 years

VT102

by wilson＠dbit.com

Second, shorter try, (last one moderated?): anyone have a VT102 they'd be willing to sell/trade (I have many Q-bus boards)? NE US ideal, but. Tnx / JW

13 years

Scam alert...

by jon＠jonworld.com

Hi everyone! Per some advice here I posted locally on craigslist for items wanted. This morning I received a text message saying "click here to see if my items match what you're looking for." ? it was an image hosting site named "imgsend.com" and seemed nearly-legit. I went there from my phone and said "missing plug-in." Odd. I went there from my Mac. It said I needed a plug-in to view GMP-based GIMP images. GIMP doesn't make GMP images. At this point I knew something was wrong and began to break out my google-fu. This is what I learned, after you click to "add plugin" it points you to a website that redistributes GIMP with known malware and spyware. Once you have that installed and visit the site to view your photos, the malware is activated, and likely your banking credentials are stolen. Just something else to be alert for.

13 years

Wanted: C-64 equip for project

by starmaster＠gmail.com

Was wondering if anyone had any unwanted working/non-working Commodore items. I am helping my grandson on a school project. Thank you starmaster(at)gmail.com

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Education & vintage/classic computing

by c.murray.mccullough＠gmail.com

I have a question that concerns vintage/classic computing intersecting the education world: Can anyone tell me what was the first microcomputer used in an education setting for teaching purposes? Thanks. Murray :)

13 years

anyone got a TRS-80 model 4P for parts/repair?

by rampaginggreenhulk＠yahoo.com

------------------------------ On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 11:37 AM PST Adrian Graham wrote: >On 02/03/2013 21:57, "Chris Tofu" <rampaginggreenhulk at yahoo.com> wrote: > >> preferably not on the west coast. > >Oh, therefore preferably not in the UK either? I have one 6 feet away from >me that's less than well... So fix it! What is wrong with it anyway? It's the only non-2000 TRS-80 that catches my fancy these days. Where have you been anyway? And where's Andrew ("aliensrcool")? Are those of you with A's as their first letter too Aloof to hang out with us?? >-- >Adrian/Witchy >Binary Dinosaurs creator/curator >Www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk - the UK's biggest private home computer >collection? > >

13 years

Forget UPS was Re: Shipping Heavy/Large Items Via UPS

by rampaginggreenhulk＠yahoo.com

------------------------------ On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 12:01 PM PDT Doc wrote: >On 3/12/13 1:40 PM, Liam Proven wrote: >> I have communicated privately with "Chris Tofu". I know him to be a >> nasty, bigoted, hate-filled fundamentalist - and really very stupid to >> boot. So all I wish to do is shut him up. > > > Oddly enough, that perfectly describes both my assessment of and my desire concerning you. > > Please stop rationalizing your bigoted spew and shut the fuck up. > > > Doc I mean really. I did approach him in a friendly manner, for the purpose of engaging in friendly debate. And it would seem he just couldn't handle it. I cannot understand why the discussion turned so vitriolic. I'll extend the olive branch once more, and even apologize fully for earlier comments. But like doc said you really need to shut that little trap once in a while Liam.

13 years

More fun stuff-bring out the vacuum tubes!

by sales＠elecplus.com

http://diyaudioprojects.com/Tubes/tubes.htm _____ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2904 / Virus Database: 2641/6166 - Release Date: 03/12/13

13 years

Xerox 820-II & external FDC

by mc68010＠gmail.com

On 3/11/2013 11:37 AM, Enrico Lazzerini wrote: > Hi, I received a Xerox 820-II mainboard. I've found that does not have a FDC > on board and that the 37-pin connector used to connect the floppy disk it > seems to have a bus and its own protocol to talk to an external FDC board > outside. Is there anybody who knows more and is it there a way to try to > connect and operate the drive with this mainboard? > Having cleaned the heads, about every other disk going through a box of 8" 820 disk, sthere is nothing in the drive other than the drives and a power supply. I am not sure if the 820-II is different but, I doubt it. The cable just splits off to each drive. Everything is on the mainboard.

13 years

DEC Pro 380 vs VAX 8800 console

by rampaginggreenhulk＠yahoo.com

------------------------------ On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 9:03 PM PDT Dave McGuire wrote: > I don't know offhand, but amusingly, I know that seller well. That's >a surplus place that I used to shop at every Saturday when I lived in >Maryland. I haven't been there in about twelve years, but it was >AWESOME the last time I was there. He was never really open to the >public, but a group of us would go every weekend and drop way too much coin. I can believe it. 90$ for a Jornada??! Incidentally 6 months ago or a bit more someone on the list was clearing out their storage unit and was offering boxes in this category. Chicago area I think.

13 years

5151 hunt...

by geneb＠deltasoft.com

Found one thanks to a listmember. Still chasing a 5150 compatible keyboard. tnx. -gene -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll - Go Collimated or Go Home. Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_!

13 years

more books FFS

by dgriffi＠cs.csubak.edu

I have two more books free for shipping. The Fortran 77 one is gone. Here's what I have: *Motorola CMOS/NMOS Special Functions Data (1986) *Turbo C Reference Guide (1987) from Borland *UNIX Primer Plus by Waite Group Staff (1983, Softcover) *Introduction to WordStar by Arthur Naiman (1983, Paperback) *WordStar with Style by Roger White (1983, Paperback) *The Illustrated CP/M WordStar Dictionary with MailMerge and SpellStar *Word Processing on the Kaypro by Peter A. McWilliams (1983, Paperback) Take one or many. -- David Griffith dgriffi at cs.csubak.edu A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?

13 years

Adolescent behavior, was Forget UPS was Re: Shipping Heavy/Large Items Via UPS

by rampaginggreenhulk＠yahoo.com

You're supposed to embrace love and worthwhile judgment. People cherry pick what suits them from the bible and ignore the rest. You've never read it. You don't have a clue. VICIOUS ATTACK??!! Someone threatens me publicly. Did I threaten anyone??? What the hell is said or going to be done about the threats issued??? NOTHING. And if I were inclined to take it the least bit seriously, I'd do something. Little big mouth. You can also go to Hell Dave. Talking crap like that could get you in a lot of trouble real quick. ------------------------------ On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 12:46 PM PDT Camiel Vanderhoeven wrote: >On Wednesday, March 13, 2013, Chris Tofu <rampaginggreenhulk at yahoo.com> >wrote: >> >> Yes Chuck I enjoyed and appreciate your inputs over the years also. But >there's just too much going wrong with the fucking world to just sit idly >by. That's the price that has to be payed I guess. >> Thanks for the kind words though. Bound to be a lot more then I'll get >from anyone else. > >I agree that a lot is wrong with this world. One of these things is >Christians forgetting love and embracing judgment. Nowhere in the >example Jesus set can I find any justification for this kind of vicious, >hurtful attack on a fellow human being. If it were justified , I would >rather be an atheist than a selfrighteous christian. > >Camiel

13 years

Does anyone know

by doc＠vaxen.net

How to unsubscribe? Yes, I've been to www.classiccmp.org and hit the "Unsubscribe" button. Repeatedly. Doc

13 years

Forget UPS was Re: Shipping Heavy/Large Items Via UPS

by JWOLFE＠19209.decnet.org

*shrug* Both of my RL02 drives were shipped via UPS in giant boxes. The delivery guy looked at me funny, but for only $70 it was worth it.

13 years

Subject: Re: Adolescent behavior, was Forget UPS was Re: Shipping Heavy/Large Items Via UPS

by js＠cimmeri.com

cctalk-request at classiccmp.org wrote: > Subject: > Re: Adolescent behavior, was Forget UPS was Re: Shipping Heavy/Large > Items Via UPS > From: > Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> > Date: > Wed, 13 Mar 2013 14:43:03 -0400 > > To: > General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts <cctalk at classiccmp.org> > > > Ok, THAT'S IT. Get the FUCK off of this list. > > NOW. > > I would beat the living daylights out of you if you were anywhere > nearby. On your front lawn, in front of your wife. > > Jackass. > > -Dave Felony assault as a response to some zealot's silly, harmless words? You think this display of an excessively self-important ego demonstrates what a "better man" is? Talk about appalling, crude behavior. /"Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent" -- /Isaac Asimov

13 years

Does anyone know

by barythrin＠gmail.com

Btw Doc, (if you get this). It may be a difference in subscribing to the moderated cctech list instead of the cctalk. Cctech is supposed to only include on topic chatter. Although you'd miss all the hilarious comments and flame wars. ------Original Message------ From: Doc Sender: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org To: General Discussion On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts ReplyTo: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: Re: Does anyone know Sent: Mar 13, 2013 12:15 AM On 3/12/13 6:51 PM, Rob wrote: > On 12 March 2013 21:56, Doc Shipley <doc at vaxen.net> wrote: >> How to unsubscribe? >> >> Yes, I've been to www.classiccmp.org and hit the "Unsubscribe" button. >> Repeatedly. > > Try email cctalk-request at classiccmp.org with a subject of "unsubscribe" Well now I feel dumb as a box of rocks.... I used to know that. Doc

13 years

Flextra BR-3020 or BR-3225 25/50MB Floppy Drive

by robin＠hx-20.com

On 03/12/2013 09:29 AM, Robin England wrote: > Does anyone have a Brier Technology BR-3020 or BR-3225 high capacity floppy drive I could borrow please? >Wouldn't an Insite I325VM work just as well if reading is your object? >I suspect that there are far more of them than the Brier units. >--Chuck Thanks Chuck. Do you know for sure that the I325VM can read the Flextra 25MB discs?

13 years

ebay Vintage Imlac PDS 1 kinda over priced

by tdk.knight＠gmail.com

found this on ebay tonight for 19k or 65k buy it now :O holy crap... http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Rare-Imlac-PDS-1-Computer-Graphical-Display…

13 years

All about CRT tubes, and HP semiconductor PN cross ref

by sales＠elecplus.com

http://www.hparchive.com/Bench_Briefs/HP-Bench-Briefs-1981-03-05.pdf Cindy Croxton Electronics Plus 1613 Water Street Kerrville, TX 78028 (830)792-3400 phone (830)792-3404 fax AOL IM elcpls _____ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2904 / Virus Database: 2641/6166 - Release Date: 03/12/13

13 years

Univac III available

by jws＠jwsss.com

I have a system which has been talked about here available for sale. Several list members probably know about it, and had expressed interest. I'm trying to sell it for a friend. The bulk of the system is in Norco, Ca, and there is a large block of card equipment still in Ok, City. Please make offers http://jwstephens.com/univac3/page_01.htm http://jwstephens.com/univac3/page_01.htm I can supply more information on request. thanks Jim

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