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by kaikal＠MICROSOFT.com

The 99/4A DIN video pinout is (format in monospace for best readability): 3 1 5 4 2 where (and no, I didn't write these descriptions, they're pretty bizarre. I typed them verbatim; if anyone can shed some light on these, let us know): 1. "12v vid" 2. R-Y (colorburst clock) 3. Audio out 4. Y 5. B-Y (ext video input?) U. Ground Kai > ---------- > From: Cord Coslor[SMTP:coslor@pscosf.peru.edu] > Reply To: classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu > Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 1997 1:21 PM > To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers > Subject: Re: TI-99/4A Comments > > I have a question for you folks. I have a basic TI 99/4a.... that's > it. No > cables, no peripherals, no nothing with it. I am wanting to get this > machine up to operation and am looking for anything that you folks > might > have available. I have a large assortment of running machines in my > collection... TRS-80s, CoCo, Commodores, etc., etc., and would like to > add > this classic machine to my 'operational' collection. Can anyone help > me > out? > > Thanks in advance, > > CORD > > //*=================================================================== > ==++ > || Cord G. Coslor P.O. Box 308 - 1300 3rd St. Apt "M1" -- Peru, > NE || > || (402) 872- 3272 coslor(a)bobcat.peru.edu > 68421-0308 || > || Classic computer software and hardware collector > || > || Autograph collector > || > ++==================================================================== > =*// > >

27 years, 12 months

pdp 11/34 headed for landfill

by groberts＠mitre.org

fyi, posted on comp.os.cpm ... - glenn A friend in a bit of a time bind will probably be sending a PDP 11/34 to the landfill very soon. If you want it, and probably a half dozen other assorted racks of minicomputers plus hundreds of reels of 1/2" tape, but NO S-100 stuff (you can probably guess who got THAT!) e-mail immediately....... stuff is located in Tucson, very close to I-10 sorry, no one available to pack it, but Amtrak does stop here....... and they shi[p stuff pretty cheap...... bill_h(a)azstarnet.com

27 years, 12 months

MSX comments.... (Re:)

by K.J.Whitehead＠massey.ac.nz

> | WoW! The more I hear about this thing the more I want one. >It's amazing > | that this system was so unknown in the states. It's like >discovering a > | whole new species. > >Yep, I was obviously thrilled when I ran into my Spectravideo 328 in its >original box, for $5 at a local thrift... > >Sorry Sam, didn't mean to gloat there. > >Did I mention it was accompanied by the cassette drive in its original >box too? > >Kai Me too...well not in original boxes but I do have one with monitor (TV+modulator?) disk drives, cassette deck,software,CPM 3 (?) etc that I got for eqiv US$12. The only thing is that it intermittantly resets itsself and I have not had a chance to look at ti since I got the thing, I also got a set of boards from a cromenco s100 system for nothing :-) 2 TRS80 model 3s (which I can hopefully get 1 working) $0 1 TRS80 model 4P (Repaired phase locked loop circuit in video) $0 1 Sinclair Z88 with MacLink ROM installed $4 1 Sinclair ZX 81 not going $0 2 Sinclair QL's with 1 mono monitor $0 1 Apple ][e with drives and UHF TV/Monitor $9 1 Kaypro 4 a couple of years back for $30 1 Kaypro 10 (fitted new HD ) for $0 1 ALTOS 8088 Unix based system supposedly in working condition (yet to try) $20 1 IBM PC $0 1 IBM XT $0 1 VT100 terminal $0 and soon to arrive is 2 TRS80 model 1 1 TRS80 model 3 1 TRS80 model 4D 1 Dicksmith Systems 80 1 Amstrad 464 1 Amstrad PCW8256 and I'm on the scent of Apple Lisa Amstrad PC Clone Amstrad monitor (suits the 464/664/6128) Commodore 64 Commodore PET Atari 800 Sinclair spectrum Sinclair ZX80 (kit set..maybe unbuilt !) PDP 11 (model unknown) Microvax (dead PSU) However I would like to acquire Jupiter Ace (forth based machine) Commodore SX64 Any Bondwell CPM machines Cheers and good hunting +----------- Keith Whitehead -----------+ | Physics and Chemistry Depts | | Massey University | | Palmerston North | | New Zealand | | | | Ph +64 6 350-5074 Fax +64 6 354-0207 | +------------------------------------------+

27 years, 12 months

TI99 (was Re: 8088s seattle comp.)

by kaikal＠MICROSOFT.com

True, that's bizarre... they appear to be especially common in the northwest. But just try to find a PEB! Kai > ---------- > From: Bill Whitson[SMTP:bill@booster.bothell.washington.edu] > Reply To: classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu > Sent: Monday, June 09, 1997 3:52 PM > To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers > Subject: TI99 (was Re: 8088s seattle comp.) > > > Not along the same topic but I'm curious - just how > popular was the TI99. From what I've seen scrounging > over the years it looks like it might have been the > most popular (or at least most numerous) micro ever made. > Now, I know that's not true. It's just strange - I > could go out this weekend and easily come home with 30- > 40 of these machines, wait a month or two and probably do > it again. There's one local junk store here that had > 11 of them lying around when last I checked. They're > like roaches ;). > > Bill >

27 years, 12 months

Classic Computer Rescue List

by allisonp＠world.std.com

> HOWEVER, like other posters to this list, I have a wife that "simply > doesn't understand the value of old computers" and am currently Ha! I am the wife! I control the... Well I don't have that problem other than a KI10 would be out of the question unless "just passing through". ;-) Allison

27 years, 12 months

Printers

by sinasohn＠crl.com

At 03:20 PM 6/11/97 -0700, you wrote: >A printer is a printer, but since nobody really looks upon these as >collectible, they are the most likely to be overlooked or sent to the >scrap heap. A big problem is that they often weigh a lot and are a >burden to store. Nonetheless, I have recently started to collect the old The Computer History Association of California has printers in its collection, and (I think) is as interested in saving printers as anything else. P.S., I'll put in a plug for the CHAC here... Good org, great mag, everyone should join/subscribe. For more info, see <http://www.chac.org/>. (I am, btw, on the board of directors, but mostly I'm just handy for getting the container doors closed. 8^) --------------------------------------------------------------------- O- Uncle Roger "There is pleasure pure in being mad sinasohn(a)crl.com that none but madmen know." Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates San Francisco, California http://www.crl.com/~sinasohn/

27 years, 12 months

REAL plug&play hardware

by jeffh＠unix.aardvarkol.com

I had my Atari 800 up and running again today, testing out my 1050 drive and such, and decided to toy with the Atari 1030 modem I have sitting here for it. I had forgotten how interesting an item it is. For those of you that aren't familiar with it, it's an external 300baud modem that plugs into the same general I/O ports as the Atari disk drives and such. You turn on the modem first, then the Atari 8bit, and the 8bit actually boots into a program called 'Modemlink', which is stored in ROM on the modem. No disks, cartridges or anything...just the computer and the modem! Modemlink is pretty basic, but it does autodial. Might be time to fire it up and try it again on one of the local C-64 BBS's running on the Color64 software still since they support 40 column mode. That certainly beats the heck out of the compatibility issues I had to deal with concerning terminal programs and BBS's on the PC with early 1200 and 2400 baud modems. Not to mention there's no setup. Jeff jeffh(a)unix.aardvarkol.com -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Sent from an Amiga 3000..the computer for the creative mind! --------------------------------------------------------------------- Collector of classic home computers: Amiga 1000, Apple II+, Atari 800, 800XL, Mega-ST/2 and XE System, Coleco ADAM, Commodore 128D, 16, Plus/4 and VIC-20, IBM 5155, Kaypro 2X, Mattel Aquarius, Osborne Executive, Radofin Aquarius, Sinclair ZX-81, TI-99/4A, Timex-Sinclair 1000, TRS-80 Color Computer-3, Model 4, and Model 4P, plus Odyssey2, Atari Superpong and 2600VCS game consoles.

27 years, 12 months

5 1/2" Drives

by BigLouS＠aol.com

In a message dated 97-06-11 02:45:42 EDT, you write: > Do any of you collectors > have a use for them or need them to complete a given machine? I certainly could use three or four. A lot of the older machines including the Kaypro 2's and IBM PC's and XT's came equipped with Tandon drives which were poorly made. As a result I have two or three machines sitting around that need 5 1/4" full height drive transplants. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Regards, Lou

27 years, 12 months

Atari 2600 questions

by sinasohn＠crl.com

At 08:48 AM 6/12/97 -0700, you wrote: >Can't help with compatibility although the pinout for the Atari Joystick >is: > >Pin 1 - Forward >Pin 2 - Back >Pin 3 - Left >Pin 4 - Right >Pin 5 - No Connection >Pin 6 - Trigger >Pin 7 - No Connection >Pin 8 - Ground >Pin 9 - No Connection Because the Atari (same as commodore and others) joysticks are digital (on/off for each direction; done with simple switches) instead of analog (varying amount of each direction; done with potentiometers) like most PC joysticks, it is rather easy to build alternative input devices, whether it's something to stand on, or a bunch of buttons, or whatever. I think the other pins (5, 7, 9) were used for the paddles (which were analog devices.) --------------------------------------------------------------------- O- Uncle Roger "There is pleasure pure in being mad sinasohn(a)crl.com that none but madmen know." Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates San Francisco, California http://www.crl.com/~sinasohn/

27 years, 12 months

AuctionWeb (was: Free (maybe): Tandy 10 MB Drive Case)

by sinasohn＠crl.com

btw, there's also an interesting sounding doohickey up for bid: '84 Portable Personal Computer Sord IS-11C (item #xjw18405) Ends sunday the 15th, and there are 7 available. Anyone know anything about it? You can get to it at <http://www2.ebay.com/aw/itemfast.cgi?item=xjw18405>. Min bid is $25, though. AuctionWeb is a good place to find interesting things sometimes, especially early PC and just-before-pc stuff. (And I hate to tell people because that means more bidders which means higher bids...) --------------------------------------------------------------------- O- Uncle Roger "There is pleasure pure in being mad sinasohn(a)crl.com that none but madmen know." Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates San Francisco, California http://www.crl.com/~sinasohn/

27 years, 12 months

looking for info on tape drive

by kaikal＠MICROSOFT.com

That's a Cipher ST150. It's a old, generic (apart from being early SCSI) 150MB 1/4" SCSI tape drive. It's still supported by most backup software. Kai > ---------- > From: allisonp@world.std.com[SMTP:allisonp@world.std.com] > Reply To: classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu > Sent: Thursday, June 12, 1997 6:06 PM > To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers > Subject: looking for info on tape drive > > slightly off but information needed. > > Cipher model st150s-II 6150? cartridge tape drive scsi interface. > > I need data on this jumpers commands anything. > > Allison >

27 years, 12 months

Classic Computer Collectors Index

by chemif＠mbox.queen.it

At 14:38 11/06/97 -0500, Issac Davis wrote: >I can see that we are going to inundate this list with our home locations. >I will go ahead and volunteer to keep the list, and put it up on my web >site. If you want to be added to this list, email me idavis(a)comland.com >with your name, city/area, and a way to contact you - email or phone. After >the list is compiled, I will put it on the web, and will be able to email it >to anyone involved. >Feel free to give me any contact information you want. I will only include what you tell me to. >Isaac Davis >idavis(a)comland.com >indavis(a)juno.com Hi, Isaac, really a very good idea. So here I am: NAME:Riccardo Romagnoli CITY/AREA:Forli'(FO)/Emilia Romagna/Italy WAY TO CONTACT ME:chemif@mbox.queen.it Fax:+39-(0)543-402190 Telex:551132 CHEMIF I (yes, the old 50 BAUD stuff!) RANGE:Emilia-Romagna region (Ev. North side of the "boot") MAIN AREA OF INTEREST:Mini's from 70's (esp. Texas DS990/x family);Micro;Olivetti;all kind teletypes machines from any age;Printers. I will be glad to exchange any information and documents I have (or search if needed) about classics coming from Italy. CIAO! ????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? Riccardo Romagnoli,collector of:CLASSIC COMPUTERS,TELETYPE UNITS,PHONE AND PHONECARDS I-47100 Forli'/Emilia-Romagna/Food Valley/ITALY Pager:DTMF PHONES=+39/16888(hear msg.and BEEP then 5130274*YOUR TEL. NUMBER* where*=asterisk key | for help visit http://www.tim.it/tldrin_eg/tlde03.html TELEX:551132 CHEMIF I ?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

27 years, 12 months

MSX comments.... (Re:)

by kaikal＠MICROSOFT.com

| WoW! The more I hear about this thing the more I want one. It's amazing | that this system was so unknown in the states. It's like discovering a | whole new species. Yep, I was obviously thrilled when I ran into my Spectravideo 328 in its original box, for $5 at a local thrift... Sorry Sam, didn't mean to gloat there. Did I mention it was accompanied by the cassette drive in its original box too? Kai

27 years, 12 months

classic computer collector's index

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

somebody, i dont remember, put forth: >Mayhaps, as a parallel to the 'Classic Computer Index", we need to develop >> a 'Classic Computer Collectors Index' so that we know where others are >> when things like this pop up so that we could have some local options. >> Even if a person did not want the particular item, they might be able to >> pick it up while arrangements were made to get it to someone who did want >> it. feel free to add me to the list. i'd be glad to go out and discover new finds and give the opportunity for others to get it before the scrapyard does. i've a truck and a 3 bedroom house, so storage is no problem! =D david

27 years, 12 months

Classic Computer Rescue List

by idavis＠comland.com

Ok, I have taken the info I got from today, and put it up on the web. Nothing fancy, and I haven't indexed it yet with any search engines. Take a look at it and let me know what you think, or if you want to change your information. The url is: http://www.comland.com/~idavis/classic/classic.html Any suggestions? Let me know and I will change it before we tell the rest of the world about it. Isaac Davis idavis(a)comland.com indavis(a)juno.com

27 years, 12 months

(fwd) PDP 11/34...more info (fwd)

by dastar＠crl.com

My GOD! Has anyone seen this??? SOMEBODY DO SOMETHING! Sam ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Computer Historian, Programmer, Musician, Philosopher, Athlete, Writer, Jackass ---------- Forwarded message ---------- here's the major info about the mini's now sitting under the Tucson sun, soon to be landfill...... PDP 11/34: two machines - one with 3 lights, 2 toggle switches and a rotary switch; one with a 4x5 keypad, rotary switch, and little digital display (led's?) PDP 11/35: full front panel with maybe 35 switches in a row across the bottom (sort of like an Imsai) Industrial 11 (in pieces) front panel looks something like 11/35, but in red and blue (even more like Imsai) RX02 pair of 8" disk drives in a box several assorted hard drives, rack mount, desk-top 14" (VERY heavy!), 9672-type CDC disk drive in cabinet, etc VAX 11/780 double-wide 5-1/2 foot high cabinet - can't get to the front so don't know if there's anybody home there..... Large rack mounted tape unit....about all I can tell is it's DEC Rack box (sitting on the ground) RK05f DEC Pack DECScope - looks sort of like a desk-top micro all-in-one keyboard/monitor several other DEC racks; many reels of tape; manuals; misc also many terminal/monitors I doubt this stuff will be around for more than a day or two..... bill_h(a)azstarnet.com -- Sam ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Computer Historian, Programmer, Musician, Philosopher, Athlete, Writer, Jackass

27 years, 12 months

Classic Computer Rescue List is Up.

by idavis＠comland.com

Hey everyone. There has been a great response to the list of people willing to go out of their way to pick up our beloved classics and save them from a fate worse than death. I have added all of the people that have requested it so far today, and did a little work on the page. I think it is ready for the general public to know about. There wasn't a single complaint about any part, so I think that's a thumbs up. I will be getting it listed in the major search engines on the web, so maybe we can get some real results from it soon. I am currently in the process of attempting to get a couple of pdp8's, and am working on arrangements to store them for a fellow classic computer list subscriber until he can pick them up. Exactly what this list is all about. Comments are more than welcome, and let me know if you want to be on the list. http://www.comland.com/~idavis/classic/classic.html Isaac Davis | Don't throw out that old computer, idavis(a)comland.com | check out the Classic Computer Rescue List - indavis(a)juno.com | http://www.comland.com/~idavis/classic/classic.html

27 years, 12 months

Atari 800 Atari Artist cart?

by coslor＠pscosf.peru.edu

Howdy: Does anyone out there have the old Atari 800LX Atari Artist cartridge? It is catalog # RX8053. Please let me know as I have been looking for it for some time. Thanks, CORD COSLOR Archive Software //*=====================================================================++ || Cord G. Coslor P.O. Box 308 - 1300 3rd St. Apt "M1" -- Peru, NE || || (402) 872- 3272 coslor(a)bobcat.peru.edu 68421-0308 || || Classic computer software and hardware collector || || Autograph collector || ++=====================================================================*//

27 years, 12 months

Atari 2600 questions

by MPritchard＠ensemble.net

> > PS I've been having a little surf trying to find this info, and in > my > > travels came across a site that has a 2600 emulator for download on > > various platforms! It's at > > <http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/ahornby/v2600.html> > > >You should also be able to find a site whereby you can order a > joystick > >from. There are probably a couple places in Europe. > > From my investigations, new joysticks for the 2600/etc are getting a > might hard to come by. From what I can tell, no one is making them > anymore. I do know that Video 61 has them. > > -Matt Pritchard > > >

27 years, 12 months

Tandy 600

by zmerch＠northernway.net

Due to massive amounts of caffeine & sleep deprivation, Kai Kaltenbach said: >Actually the Tandy 600 was a 1989 concoction. It looks like an early >Toshiba laptop, with flip-up narrow LCD display. It has Multiplan, a >subset of MS Word, a built-in modem, 360K 3.5" drive, 80x16 display, and >sold for $999. I passed up one of these at a swap meet a few weeks ago. > >Kai <MODE GOOFY=ON> Nee-ner-nee-ner-neeeee-ner!!! I finally know something that Kai doesn't!!! ;^> </MODE> Sorry, but *my* T600 was built in September of 1985! AAMAF, I have a 1989 sale flyer yet that shows the T600 in "where-is-as-is" status, for the same $$$ or cheaper than the T200. (one of which I also have!) Processor was an 80c88 and standard memory was 32K (which was close to useless, from what I hear. Mine came with 128K, so I wouldn't know.) which was expanded with up to 2 banks of 96K. Yes, the floppy was 360K, as it was single-sided with double-density. Power: 4 internal D-sized nicads giving 11 hours use with no floppy activity. Files are stored in RAM (like the 100/200/102/NEC 8201A/Olivetti M10/etc.) and can be copied to floppy using the copy command. More questions? You can ask me or the list, with the details below. There is an FTP site for the Tandy 600 at: ftp://ftp.northernway.net/Tandy600/ and there is a listserve dedicated to the Tandy 600. To find out more about the listserve, send a message to: m600-request(a)list.northernway.net with the word "info" or "help" in the subject. To subscribe, send a message to: m600-request(a)list.northernway.net with the word "sub" or "subscribe" in the subject. To post a message to the listserve, send a message to: m600(a)list.northernway.net and it will automatically go to several people (always looking for more, folks!) including a man named Larry Kollar, who wrote and maintains a Tandy 600 FAQ. URL for the FAQ: http://www.nyx.net/~lekollar/t600/t600faq.html Hope this helps! Roger "Merch" Merchberger -- Roger Merchberger | If at first you don't succeed, Programmer, NorthernWay | nuclear warhead disarmament should zmerch(a)northernway.net | *not* be your first career choice.

27 years, 12 months

Atari 2600 questions

by nickc＠ladyland.demon.co.uk

Hi all... I just picked up an Atari 2600 with 3 catridges but there's no power supply or joysticks. I'm not complaining though, as it only cost 5 Pounds from from a charity shop here in London! So, the predictable question is what are the specs for the power supply? (i.e. voltage, current and polarity of what appears to be a 3.5" jack). Also can i use the joysticks from a ZX Spectrum or TI-99/4A with it? If not, can anyone give me details of the pin-out so i can wire up my own? TIA...Nick. PS I've been having a little surf trying to find this info, and in my travels came across a site that has a 2600 emulator for download on various platforms! It's at <http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/ahornby/v2600.html> -- Nick Challoner nickc(a)ladyland.demon.co.uk Aviation photographs at: http://www.ladyland.demon.co.uk "Bother" said Pooh, as he deleted his root directory.

27 years, 12 months

Another one to be rescued?

by idavis＠comland.com

At 08:51 AM 6/12/97 -0700, you wrote: > >Oh yea, I should mention the last time this thing was fired up about >5-7 years ago it had some sort of problem with it staying powered up >or something. They where not able to get the data off their disks. >Other then that I don't know anymore details. The original owners of >this thing was Robert Mueler(sp?) Airport(ATC at its best). > >--- > >So, anyone in the Austin, TX area want to grab this one either for their >collection, or for holding while it seeks a home? > >-jim >--- >jimw(a)agora.rdrop.com >The Computer Garage - http://www.rdrop.com/~jimw >Computer Garage Fax - (503) 646-0174 > > Jim, I have already emailed Micah, and am waiting for a response. Here a conincidence for you. My dad works for the FAA, at Robert Mueller as the Radar Technician. If I get this, I will see if he knows about it. I will let everyone know how it goes. Isaac Davis idavis(a)comland.com indavis(a)juno.com

27 years, 12 months

Another one to be rescued?

by jimw＠agora.rdrop.com

Date: Thu, 12 Jun 1997 02:38:43 GMT From: Micah Voiers <micah1(a)flash.net> Newsgroups: alt.sys.pdp8 Subject: FS: pdp 8 I have what I think are 2 pdp 8(a I think) I see two omni hex processor boards, 2 rko 5 drives( one has some rust on one side), two case things with power supply, 4 or 5 memory boards a few controllers, 1 face plate. FREE, OBO. The pdp is in Austin, I am in Ft Worth, Texas. I would rather not haul this thing up here. I won't ship it cause that would seem like a major pain in the neck., unless ya pay, a lot. Also got about 10 trs-80 model 3's. I would like to keep this for historical sake but it is heavy and takes up a lot of space. Let me know micah1(a)flash.net Oh yea, I should mention the last time this thing was fired up about 5-7 years ago it had some sort of problem with it staying powered up or something. They where not able to get the data off their disks. Other then that I don't know anymore details. The original owners of this thing was Robert Mueler(sp?) Airport(ATC at its best). --- So, anyone in the Austin, TX area want to grab this one either for their collection, or for holding while it seeks a home? -jim --- jimw(a)agora.rdrop.com The Computer Garage - http://www.rdrop.com/~jimw Computer Garage Fax - (503) 646-0174

27 years, 12 months

Atari 2600 questions

by thedm＠sunflower.com

The joysticks, for the c64, atari2600, atari 400,800,1200 series of computers are all identical. Any joystick that is rated for these machines will work just fine. I'll have to double check, but im pretty positive the power is 9vDC around 300mv, possibly up to 500mv, not sure. ---------- > From: Nick Challoner <nickc(a)ladyland.demon.co.uk> > To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> > Subject: Atari 2600 questions > Date: Thursday, June 12, 1997 8:01 AM > > Hi all... > > I just picked up an Atari 2600 with 3 catridges but there's no power > supply or joysticks. I'm not complaining though, as it only cost 5 > Pounds from from a charity shop here in London! > > So, the predictable question is what are the specs > for the power supply? (i.e. voltage, current and polarity of what > appears to be a 3.5" jack). > > Also can i use the joysticks from a ZX Spectrum or TI-99/4A with it? > If not, can anyone give me details of the pin-out so i can wire up my > own? > > TIA...Nick. > > PS I've been having a little surf trying to find this info, and in my > travels came across a site that has a 2600 emulator for download on > various platforms! It's at > <http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/ahornby/v2600.html> > > -- > Nick Challoner nickc(a)ladyland.demon.co.uk > Aviation photographs at: http://www.ladyland.demon.co.uk > "Bother" said Pooh, as he deleted his root directory.

27 years, 12 months

Classic Computer Collectors Index

by idavis＠comland.com

I can see that we are going to inundate this list with our home locations. I will go ahead and volunteer to keep the list, and put it up on my web site. If you want to be added to this list, email me idavis(a)comland.com with your name, city/area, and a way to contact you - email or phone. After the list is compiled, I will put it on the web, and will be able to email it to anyone involved. Maybe I can try and get some outside exposure with web search engines to help people outside of this list to be able to contact us before they take their "junk" to the landfill. Feel free to give me any contact information you want. I will only include what you tell me to. Isaac Davis idavis(a)comland.com indavis(a)juno.com

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