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by allisonp＠world.std.com

> In particular, none of the Altairs I saw people building in the > mid-70's worked as designed; there were typos in the assembly instructions > and to get reliable front panel operation most people had to tweak > the one-shots that controlled the timing. Some of these > modifications are well documented by John Zarella, in his Byte > (1975:4 p78) article "Assembling an Altair 8800". RE:8800 (A version) BIG TIME! As someone that built one of the first it was a dog to get going and I had scopes and all the goodies. I'd also worked with the 8008 before and was Intelized as it were. A friend build one about 6 months later and it was still flakey as hell. First of many mods was to get the damm oneshots off the cpu card and put in a 8224 clock generator. I got mine to a stable state but when the S4K memories came out I upgraded asap. Better but far >from great. To many oneshots. In late '78 I transfered my IO, NS* MDS to a new HORIZON box with a 4mhz z80. used the altair for a few years to support testing (front pannel). I put it in mothballs about 84 and will likely never use it again. To highly modified to even consider museum piece and in '79 it suffered a lightining hit and was never right since. Allison

28 years, 9 months

A little guidance - TI Xenix

by danjo＠xnet.com

I realize this is a little off-topic (last build was about 1987 or 88) but I have my self in a corner 8-) There are a couple of windows I could crawl thru if I HAD to. I have a pristene TI Xenix 386DX16 system. I have access to one account and - you guessed it - it ain't root! Nobody seems to remember the root password 8-( I can't believe that I can't break into this thing! I don't have the original disks (I haven't dug that far into ALL my docs) but it has a SCSI Tape drive and two 8 port serial adaptors and some *special* TI card. It has 2 140 MB MFM drives and I want to keep both the drivers for the multiport boards and the SCSI board. I think I can get it to run Linux but I *really* don't want to blow away the Xenix. So - does any body know where I can find a way into Xenix? Are there any archives of CERT Advisories on glaring holes I can worm my way into editing the passwd file or something? I realize I could run CRACK but since that isn't what I normally do for FUN I was hoping the mass intellegence and huge experience in this list might be able to help 8-) All suggestions are welcome - except blowing it away. BC

28 years, 9 months

Why?

by e.tedeschi＠ndirect.co.uk

What's wrong with this (virtual) "group" ??? Of all the collecting groups I belong to, this is the only one where my (and I suppose other's) public (and private) requests for help have been ignored and (worse) I suspect even opposed. Is there something I don't know? If this the case I would like to know. Thank you. Also your caper to insist on having ALL the items in the collection in working condition is, in my opinion, unique to this group. I can understand (and share) the motivation but surely we (I?) collect for the design point of view and for the historical importance. Don't we? Or am I in the wrong group anyway? Sorry for the frankness but I thought I'd get this one out of my chest before it gets even worse (I am still owed at least 5 replies to my messages) in that I will be banned from this mailing list. Hope not. What is your problem? Hoping to have a straight answer I am Yours sincerely enrico -- ================================================================ Enrico Tedeschi, 54, Easthill Drive, BRIGHTON BN41 2FD, U.K. tel/fax +(0)1273 701650 (24 hours) or 0850 104725 mobile website <http://www.ndirect.co.uk/~e.tedeschi> ================================================================ visit Brighton: <http://www.brighton.co.uk/tourist/welcome.htm>

28 years, 9 months

bibliography

by manney＠nwohio.com

Anyone want some DEC Rainbow software? I have Symphony, plus some accounting stuff and misc manuals. Pay shipping (from Ohio, USA) and it's yours. I know where there are some Rainbow macines which could be had for next to nothing, if anyone wants.

28 years, 9 months

This weekend's haul

by zmerch＠northernway.net

Due to massive amounts of caffeine & sleep deprivation, Doug Spence said: >Does the PS/2 not have any 5.25" drive bays? Weird. :) I'm not an IBMer >so I don't know these things, though I *think* one of the machines I used >to do CAD work on was a PS/2 of some flavour. Every PS/2 that I've ever seen (note: this does not mean All PS/2's... just the ones I've seen) didn't have a 5.25" port at all... not even their tower "servers". I suspect it was IBM (trying to) setting a new standard... again. >OK, that makes it useful. Would you happen to know what the pinout is of >the 37-pin connector, so that I can try to make use of the drive without >modification? Is it even possible to buy a matching female 37-pin >connector? IIRC, it's just straight thru with the last/first 3 pins unused... but I'd have to look at the cable or ring some pins to be sure (and yes, I'm a packrat...). I also believe that you can still get 37-pin D-sub connectors thru the Mouser Electronics catalog. Good people to work with... I had 3 distinct problems with my first order (totalling $40USD) and they took care of all of them at their expense (shipped some closeout SMD resistors *overnight* because they forgot them in the package... their expense... that's their policy, despite my not being in a rush for them!) Try http://www.mouser.com . >Interesting. How are the drives interfaced to the CoCos? I've got a >CoCo1, CoCo2, and CoCo3, but I've never found a disk drive for these >machines. All CoCo controllers take Shugart standard drives (now called IBM standard drives... IBM's taking over again!) altho RSDOS limits you to 35 tracks, SSDD, 156K disks (the original Shugart drives) without patches... which (of course) I have. RSDOS can handle a max of 2 DSDD 80 track drives with patches (more accurately... they look like 4 SSDD 80 track drives, with :2 the backside of :0 and :3 the backside of :1) but 1.44Meg storage thru RSDOS is really good! OS-9 can handle 3 DSDD 80trk drives! >> If you (or anyone) needs more info on this drive, lemme know. But I can >> tell you, that just taking it apart is *fun*, if you have 3-4 hours to get >> it apart and back together. I've had mine disassembled 3-4 times now, to >> figure where to cut holes & stuff for my cable mods. > >Heh. I couldn't even get mine apart, because of the two six-pointed >screws on the bottom. The screws have a lump in the middle so I can't use >a flat-blade screwdriver as I did when I had a similar problem opening my >Mac 512K. There are three ways to get into the case, only one of which I recommend. The first method involves a chainsaw and a 12lb (5.5kg) sledgehammer... If you have to ask, you don't want to know. ;^> The second method would require an appropriately sized Torx screwdriver and a Dremel tool with drill press attachment. You would need to drill a small hole in the end of the Torx driver to accommodate the post in the screw. While this method is the safest to the drive, it's also the most work. Method 3 (which is the one I used) requires a pointed instrument (like a leather awl) and a regular (flat-head or slotted) screwdriver that just fit's into 2 of the points of the Torx screw (the screwdriver tip of my tiny Swiss Army knife worked perfectly). Use the awl to bend the post over as much as you can, and this *should* (no guarantees, YMMV, yadda, yadda, yadda...) get you enough room to get enough of the slotted screwdriver into 2 of the star points and extract the screw. As the case is built like a Sherman Tank, once the screws are removed, deep six them. I've been running mine for 3 years without the special screws with no ill effects. Anyway, I hope this helps, and enjoy the drive! Roger "Merch" Merchberger -- Roger Merchberger | If at first you don't succeed, Programmer, NorthernWay | nuclear warhead disarmament should zmerch(a)northernway.net | *not* be your first career choice.

28 years, 9 months

CoCo Kits

by jrice＠texoma.net

I have an unusual CoCo 2...it was produced as a kit form. I bought it at a RS tent sale in Dallas in 1985-86. I thought it was a plug in the boards kit, but when I got it home it was totally bare boards. Took several hours of soldering to complete. I was told by a friend who was a RS manager, that they were a pilot program for schools to have classes assemble the machines and then the school would have alow cost path to getting more computers. Tandy later decided that this would be a warranty nightmare and sold the kits for $20 at the tent sale.

28 years, 9 months

Label Remover

by ard12＠eng.cam.ac.uk

There was a thread here a few weeks back about dealing with those sticky labels that seem to accumulate on classic computers. I've just bought a can of a substance called 'Electrolube (the brand name) Label Remover'. You spray it on, wait a few minutes, and rub the label off. I used it yesterday to remove some _strong_ double-sided adhesive tape inside my laser printer, and it did the job extremely well. The can claims that it may attack some plastics (so take care on classic micro cases!), and it's not that cheap (\pounds 4.00 for a small-ish spraycan from Maplin). But it certainly does the job. -- -tony ard12(a)eng.cam.ac.uk The gates in my computer are AND,OR and NOT, not Bill

28 years, 9 months

bibliography

by ccm＠sentex.net

What a wonderful idea. Such a list is ideal for a web site. I will gather a few more titles (espeically biographical books by and about CEO's from NCR, Raytheon, GE, DEC, etc.) and send them off to you. Kevin

28 years, 9 months

bibliography(ies)

by allisonp＠world.std.com

> HOME & PERSONAL COMPUTERS HISTORY BIBLIOGRAPHY > > Books listed as TITLE, AUTHOR, PUBLISHER AND PUBLICATION DATE An excellent list! I'd like to point out that between 77-81 timeframe you have a huge hole as there was an explosion of books about microcomputers. Allison

28 years, 9 months

Kaypro 10 needs home

by DASARNO＠aol.com

Have a mint condition Kaypro 10, complete with all manuals. Looks like it came out of the box. Works great, all original software. If you know of anyone who has a serious interest, please e-mail me. Don Sarno

28 years, 9 months

AIM65

by bwit＠pobox.com

Sam, Thanks for your efforts in the great AIM-65 buyout! I'll take two of the Panasonics. Regards, Bob ---------- From: Sam Ismail[SMTP:dastar@crl.com] Sent: Sunday, June 22, 1997 4:18 AM To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers Subject: AIM65 Ok, here it is. Mike Westerfield, the guy with the AIM65s, phoned me yesterday and we spoke about the deal. He has been offered $125 for EACH unit from a company called Dynatem which still uses the AIMs commercially. Mike started a company way back with a product based on the AIM65. It was an insurance rate calculator. In order to make the product marketable, he designed a plastic and a metal-base enclosure. He also placed a compact power supply inside the enclosure to make for a nice complete package. He apparently was very successful with this venture and sold many. At this point, unless someone comes along and offers him more than $125 per unit and buys the whole lot, they are going to Dynatem. That's too rich for my blood. After explaining all this to me, and after I explained what we do here on classiccmp, Mike mentioned that he had a bunch of other stuff that we might be interested in. He has a whole basement full of stuff he would like to sell off. Here's what he told me he has: EPROM burners Logical Devices GangPro-S and GangPro-2S. These can burn 32 chips at a time. These also have other features which make them very nice. Logical Devices GangPro-8 and GangPro-4 which can burn 8 and 4 respectively. Optical Technologies EP-2A-88 and EP-2A-89. EPROMs A "ton" of NEC-2716 and Hitachi 2716 EPROMs He also has the line on hundreds of Panasonic RL-H18 palmtops. This is a palmtop which came out around 1985 and had FORTH in ROM. It also has a 20-col (or 40-col?) thermal printer and a case which bundles the two together. His company also developed an expansion "tray" which houses extra memory that the Panasonic can access through bank-switching. He sold this product to (I believe) an insurance firm and now they want to dump them all. Now again, he said they have hundreds, and were just going to shit-can them, but he said the company would most likely opt to get some money back for them if they could. He said probably about $10 per unit would get them, but they'd have to be purchased in one shot. Now I don't think that there are enough people here with an interest to buy one. I suggested that perhaps they can set aside a couple hundred and then shitcan the rest because I don't have a couple thousand lying around in which to buy all of them, nor would I want to. It's up to us to come up with a proposal. As far as dealing with Mike, I asked him contacting him. At this point, he would perfer the current arrangement whereby I am the central point of contact because it is easier for him. However, this tends to put me in a bad spot for certain reasons. I'm sure there will be people interested in working out a bulk deal with him. To those people I say feel free to contact him since he is most interested in getting rid of everything in one shot. He's not interested in dealing with onesies and twosies. So he would like for everyone who has an interest in a little here and a little there to contact me about it and then he's going to call me again in a week. This would refer mainly to someone wanting one of the panasonic's or a few EPROMs. As far as the Panasonics, he's finding out more information about quantity and we will talk more about price next week. As far as the EPROM burners, I would think that dealing directly with him would be best. Anyway, his e-mail address is Mikeooo1(a)aol.com. He's a very nice guy. He offered that if there was anyone in New Jersey (I believe there is at least one person here, I can't remember his name) to come on down to his place and he'll show you through all the stuff he has. Sam ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Computer Historian, Programmer, Musician, Philosopher, Athlete, Writer, Jackass

28 years, 9 months

AIM65

by fmc＠reanimators.org

Sam Ismail <dastar(a)crl.com> writes: > Mike Westerfield, the guy with the AIM65s, phoned me yesterday and we > spoke about the deal. He has been offered $125 for EACH unit from a > company called Dynatem which still uses the AIMs commercially. Mike > started a company way back with a product based on the AIM65. It was an > insurance rate calculator. In order to make the product marketable, he > designed a plastic and a metal-base enclosure. He also placed a compact > power supply inside the enclosure to make for a nice complete package. > He apparently was very successful with this venture and sold many. At > this point, unless someone comes along and offers him more than $125 per > unit and buys the whole lot, they are going to Dynatem. That's too rich > for my blood. Some computers are so classic that they're still out there doing Real Work! I am going to have to pull my other AIM65 out and take a good look at it to see if I can figure out who badge-engineered it. (I wonder if it was Mike?) It is also in a plastic case that is obviously intended to make it portable, and I wonder how many other companies there were doing specialized applications around them. Thanks, Sam and Marvin, for sounding this out and being the go-betweens. -Frank McConnell

28 years, 9 months

AIM65

by allisonp＠world.std.com

Sam, I'd certainly be interested in TWO of the palmtops(@$10ea) if there were some docs like a schematic and ??? Allison

28 years, 9 months

The Truth about AIM-65's

by danjo＠xnet.com

Sam Ismail wrote: > Ok, here it is. > > Mike Westerfield, the guy with the AIM65s, phoned me yesterday and we > spoke about the deal. He has been offered $125 for EACH unit from a > company called Dynatem which still uses the AIMs commercially. Mike > started a company way back with a product based on the AIM65. It was > an insurance rate calculator. In order to make the product marketable, > he designed a plastic and a metal-base enclosure. He also placed a > compact power supply inside the enclosure to make for a nice complete > package. > > He apparently was very successful with this venture and sold many. At > this point, unless someone comes along and offers him more than $125 > per unit and buys the whole lot, they are going to Dynatem. That's too > rich for my blood. The problem lies in the fact that in the early/mid 80's Dynatem *bought* the rights to the AIM-65. Lock stock and barrel. I guess they have a right to buy them. I don't think they are going to get tossed anytime soon. I might try to contact them and maybe buy one of of them. BC

28 years, 9 months

Printers and Finds of the Week

by KFergason＠aol.com

In a message dated 97-06-21 21:41:21 EDT, you write: << I found an interesting printer today. It is an SR2000, produced by Sears Roebuck & Company, or at least it has their name on it. According >> I have one also, and have the manual somewhere if you need specific info. might take me a week or two to find it though. :-) Kelly KFergason(a)aol.com

28 years, 9 months

PETs ( was Who was in Australia?)

by jolminkh＠c2.telstra-mm.net.au

---------- > From: Paul E Coad <pcoad(a)crl.com> > To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> > Subject: Re: Who was in Australia? > Date: Saturday, June 21, 1997 7:39 PM > > > On Fri, 20 Jun 1997, Kai Kaltenbach wrote: > > > Subject: Mint Commodore PET FOR Sale > > From: "Stephen McCoy and Charmiane Barr" > > <mrsmrx(a)efni.com> > > Date: 1997/06/17Message-Id: > > <01bc7b43$fddee5c0$b8933dcf@charmaine> > > Newsgroups: aus.computers.amiga[More Headers] > > I'll bite on this. How much is one of these worth? I have almost > zero experience with PETs having only seen 2 in person. What are the > relative rarities of the various models of PETs? Did they make a > bunch of them? Are they really common in some places and pretty > rare in others? > > The ones I have seen are pretty cool looking in a retro-future kind of way. > > Also note that whois reports that efni.com is in Canada. The machine > might not be in Australia. > > --pec > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Saved From The Dumpster Collection: http://www.crl.com/~pcoad/machines.html Well I'm in Australia and naturally have emailed mrsmrx(a)efni.com to ask their location. Unlike Altair and Imsai, PETs are obtainable here. I have one chicklet keyboard 4k version, a CBM 3032 and a CBM 8032 hulk. I suspect they will always be around because they are so hard to destroy. The case is very solid. I found the "hulk" in a paddock, like some people find ancient cars! I've never attempted to power this one up though.

28 years, 9 months

Mark 8

by timolmst＠cyberramp.net

>> If you get one of these up and running, I have a Scelbi book, "Space >> Wars for the 8008 Microprocessor" with full hex code listings... > >I also have the three books - > > An 8008 Editor Program > Machine Language Programming for the 8008 > Assembler Programs for the 8008 > >I am such a packrat 8-) > What would be the chances of getting copies of these books? Tim Olmstead timolmst(a)cyberramp.net

28 years, 9 months

Cocos

by e.tedeschi＠ndirect.co.uk

Just to help me understand better...when you refer to Cocos, do you refer to the Tandy TRS-80 COlour COmputers? Thanks enrico -- ================================================================ Enrico Tedeschi, 54, Easthill Drive, BRIGHTON BN41 2FD, U.K. tel/fax +(0)1273 701650 (24 hours) or 0850 104725 mobile website <http://www.ndirect.co.uk/~e.tedeschi> ================================================================ visit Brighton: <http://www.brighton.co.uk/tourist/welcome.htm>

28 years, 9 months

Why?

by allisonp＠world.std.com

> >c) You are against helping "foreigners" (and therefore "different") > >collectors to export "your" stuff perhaps in the wrong perception that > >it will diminish the heritage of the country (yours). I have striken a > >deal with one of the subscriber here and he disappeared in the distance > >after a while (he did not answer anymore...) By the way does anybody > >need British stuff? I would be glad to help you with it. There is the matter of customs which many americans have little experience with. I sent a floppy to someone in canada and despite it being our neighbor the customs paper was amazing! I was told it's worse if there is a transaction involved. Allison

28 years, 9 months

Mark 8

by timolmst＠cyberramp.net

>Actually a 8ksram and a 8kprom would do it. Actualy what I had in mind was for the EPROM to copy itself into RAM and then switch itself out. THat way, you could have as much, or little, in ROM as you want, and not loos any RAM. >That this is slow enough you could use the EEprom for sram! (the slow parts >was 20us and the real fast one was 10us (single byte instruction). I believe that the fast one was 12.5us wasn't it? That is what I have. > >The real annoying part is capturing all the muxed status and syncing it. > If you've ever done anything with an i960, this is duck soup. >Making the front pannel logic is the real work, it wouldn't be right without >the FP! > My original 8008 system had a home-brew front panel. I would GLADLY do without that and just drop in a monitor ROM this time. >> What do ya think? > >Tim, your a sick puppy. THANK YOU!!!! > Tim Olmstead timolmst(a)cyberramp.net

28 years, 9 months

Dumpster Diving

by fmc＠reanimators.org

"J. Maynard Gelinas" <maynard(a)jmg.com> writes: > You know, I may have a dissenting view here, but I think some of > this stuff *ought* to go in the landfill. Sure, it will get destroyed, > but landfills will be our legacy 500 years from now. It would be > wonderful for a few high quality specimens of every type of computer made > to survive in museums, but we also want to give our future archaeologists > some reasonable sample of system distribution geographically. Oh well, > disagree if you like. Y'know, they don't just plonk the stuff down and spread a layer of dirt on top. They run it over with this nice bulldozer sort of thing that has steel wheels with cleats. Crunches the stuff up better. -Frank McConnell

28 years, 9 months

Printers and Finds of the Week

by josh＠netins.net

>I found an interesting printer today. It is an SR2000, produced by >Sears Roebuck & Company, or at least it has their name on it. According >to it's test printout, the date stamp on it is 9/25/86. I recently found a Sears Roebuck & Company SR3000, which is oddly enough a RGB/Composite monitor made for the commodore line? Who knows. It even has a speaker in it! Picture is really nice. Made around the same date! Got it for only $10! If I don't use it for an old computer, it is a great way to view the camcorder stuff! Josh M. Nutzman +----------------------------------------------+ |"Life is like a river, you go with the flow...| | but in the end you usually end up dammed." | | -The Red Green Show | +----------------------------------------------+

28 years, 9 months

Saturday's Finds and a source in Central CA

by foxnhare＠goldrush.com

I finally attended a almost 'near-by' used computer store's "warehouse sale" and was somewhat impressed. The sale is held Saturday mornings in an old nursery greenhouse about 5 miles east of Lodi on Highway 12 (in California) Almost every table is covered with equipment, a good portion seems to be discards from local school districts and others are from who knows where. The good and bad news is much of it has had some share of the elements and are sold as-is, but they are priced to clear. (they were not "out in the open" like some machines you have reported, but almost). The store keeps most of the more-modern usable stuff (PC cards, motherboards, printers, etc.) and leaves behind a lot of Commodore PETs, 64s, Apples, old PCs, etc. Must have seen about 1/2 dozen apple ///s in varying states, even more apple ][s, (from some ][ pluses to a Platinum ][e w/keypad and a couple ][cs), plenty of drives (1541, apple and old hard drives; looking for an older hard drive? make a 'look for' list ready). Lots of monitors (condition unknown as many were from a repair shop that closed; also alot of composite Commodore monitors - 1702s and CM141s). Many PC enclosures (not my area so I didn't look too hard, did see look at a Commodore PC clone though (figures), motherboard still there, but no cards or drives, some older pulled cards in boxes. I did notice at least three Osborne computers, the one I opened to look at was a later model as it didn't have that tiny screen in the center but what looked like an 8" display. Bunch of Jasmine Hard Disk cases (external, backpacks, and clip-on drives) and such for people needing power/cases for projects (some with drives still in em). Also various cables (bunch of IEEE-488), power supplies (commodore 64 was in abundance) some books and other micellany. I didn't see any minis there, but you never know... We came out with: - Educator 64 (a Commodore 64 in a PET enclosure w/monochrome 14" display) computer is dead but it uses a standard 64, so no problem there. ;> - Commodore LP2031 PET/CBM IEEE-488 single drive (a IEEE-488 drive in a 1541 case) seems to be ill but much of the electonics and all mechanicals match the 41, no problem! - Jasmine Removable 45 drive (I am assuming a Syquest 44mb drive, it looks similar) still have to get a cartridge to test, but seems clean and ok. - Commodore 1541-II w/power supply & cable (so far so good) - C= Brick Power Supply (light colored one. still untested) - Sea Wolf & Clowns cartridges for the VIC-20. - 'Commodore' paddles and 'Commodore' joystick - An AC 'muffin' fan (works, now cooling the BBS!) - 6 Commodore books (including three nifty Hofhacker ones published by Elcomp) I left a whole bunch of other VIC & 64 books behind cost $30.00 (I could have walked out with more for the same price, but I was being good) Warehouse Sale: 10400 Highway 12, about 5 miles east of Lodi, 8 am to Noon on Saturdays (if you do go, let them klnow that Larry, the Commodore guy told ya about it!) The computer place is: Allen's To Go, in Lockeford, (209) 727-0477 -- I picked up at a couple thrifts some (soon to be) blank disks, the prices are cheaper than MEI/Micro's bulk pricing, $1 for a box of 10+ 5.25" DS/DD... Larry Anderson -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- Visit our web page at: http://www.goldrush.com/~foxnhare/ Call our BBS (Silicon Realms BBS 300-2400 baud) at: (209) 754-1363 -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-

28 years, 9 months

Printers and Finds of the Week

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

In a message dated 97-06-21 21:41:21 EDT, jeff h. wrote < I found an interesting printer today. It is an SR2000, produced by >Sears Roebuck & Company, or at least it has their name on it. According > to it's test printout, the date stamp on it is 9/25/86. What makes the > printer interesting is that it is a dual-interface model, with both a > standard centronics interface, as well as what appears to be the 6pin >mini-din for the Commodore 8bit serial interface. Were there any other >interfaces that used that connector that it might be? I've found >replacement ribbons for it on the web, but no spec info. It's a dot >matrix printer with between 7 and 9 pins, and cost me a total of $4 and > works great. > Jeff jeffh(a)unix.aardvarkol.com > -- >> back around 1991 i had bought the sr3000 model. it's an old 9pin dot matrix printer, and for the most part, seems to be compatible with the epson fx-85. i was able to find replacement ribbons for it at sears also. i was kinda thrilled to see it had a serial port, but then again, it was only for C= models. if anyone needs more info, i still have the owner's manual for mine. as a side note, i had it plugged into my laser128 running GEOS, the mac like interface that ran on the machine but never could get the sr3000 to work, the only driver GEOS had was for the sr2000. david.

28 years, 9 months

Printers and Finds of the WeekFrom: Sam Ismail <dastar@crl.com> To: Classic Computer Discussion <classiccmp@u.washington.edu>

by foxnhare＠goldrush.com

References: <199706150702.AAA14700(a)lists3.u.washington.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit RE Printers... Gorilla Banana, Tandy DMP 100, Commodore 1525, etc. It was a standard printer mechanism by some manufacturer (I suspect Shikosha (sp)) All were 7 pin characters. I remember some early Commodore Printers (before the 1525) were Epson units (one based in the MX70?) I also remember, for the PETs, our school had a SWTP dot matrix printer. Pretty nifty little bugger, no fancy coverings, you got to see all the gears (printed on 4" wide roll paper as I recall) liked like an early ticker machine or something like that. They also had a Commodore 4023 and a Diablo 630 (heavy as heck and made quite a racket too). I have owned a couple curiosities such as the Commodore 1520 printer plotter (another model type that bore through many company brands) four little tiny pens. Made neat sounds when it was drawing text and lines. :) I still have my Citizen iDP560cd printer, prints on wide register tape (2.?? inches) in two colors (Black/Red) has a Commodore interface and all that. (nowadays you usually see that model printer -w/parallel interface- hooked up to merchant ATM units). Other now gone units MPS-801 and Star NP-10. Other (classic) printers I now have are a Riteman F+ (precursor to the ProWriter Jr.) it has a very short ribbon (something like 20") but a unique feed system (able to print on index cards and use the first line of a page...). Everything else is somewhat modern late model dot-matrix and ink jets. Oh, and a Commodore 8023 wide-carriage dot matrix for my PETs. ------------- RE: Sam Ismail <dastar(a)crl.com> Subject: Beat this haul... >Ok, the weekend's not even over, and here's how I did: [snip!} >Commodore 64, Commodore 64C (two of 'em, one seems to be this weird clone >since the plastic looks different from the other one and it has no >markings) It's probably an older 64 in that slimline case that was selling a few years back to make an older 64 more resemble a 64C. I recall the ads in Compute's Gazzette and RUN. *** light applause *** that certainly was a haul as well as a good little adventure! Thanks for sharing it with us. :) I know of a Salvation Army in Oakdale that has a small basket full of TI carts including some nice AtariSoft titles... ;) Next time when I get there (and if they are there and are cheap enough) I'll pick some up. --------- Now for my haul (which was today, Sunday). At the Flea Market: 2 Atari Power Packs (15.3va and 31 va) $3.00 now all I need is some Atari DOS and utility disks (HINT! HINT!) 1 Commodore 64C power supply $1.00 a couple printer switchboxes $1.00 ea. Toshiba external SCSI CD-ROM drive (seems to be partially working) $3.00 14.4 Modem $2.00 External Amiga Drive $1.00 At the Thrift Store: Commodore SuperPET (Gosh was I lucky) $20.00 (w/Wordpro plus quick referencebooklet, PET to IEEE-488 cable, power cord and "the Manager" dongle still attached) Commodore 4040 Dual Drive $5.00 3 IEEE-488 cables $2.00 each The SuperPET isn't responding, but still worth it, (I cracked it open to see the guts, there are two daughterboards connected to the motherboard the topmost seems to be the RAM (which makes the computer 96k), and I assume below that is the 6809 co-processor and RS-232 driver. Now I have to hunt down more information... :) Four toggle switches peek out on the side which allow for the storing of the language you wish to use, (setting it to ROM mode did not seem to change the situation) Have yet to test the 4040, I hope it is functional. So far everything from the Flea Market seems to work (I have yet to test the 64 supply though). Nice day, though I think my checkbook is feeling a little thin... Larry Anderson -- -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- Visit our web page at: http://www.goldrush.com/~foxnhare/ Call our BBS (Silicon Realms BBS 300-2400 baud) at: (209) 754-1363 -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-

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