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by kaikal＠MICROSOFT.com

Enrico, You're absolutely, terribly correct. In our benighted shortsightedness we have been ignoring the core, the soul, nay, the very existentialism of the historical man-machine interface and the personal hygiene of Gary Kildall. These bits of metal and plastic have become a zen-like cyborg interface which has allowed us to ignore the realities of our Jungian existance. Those among us who have perused and then obviously ignored the message of the volume of our times, Gibson & Sterling's _The Difference Engine_, and shall surely rotate on the firey rotissery of Dante's twenty-ninth buglia of the pit, which of course is reserved for those who have committed the terrible sin of coveting thy neighbor's Imsai. How can we claim to discuss the so-called 'collecting' of so-called 'classic' computers when our hypocritical censorious self-righteousness has made us purblind to the fact that 'collect' also purtains to a short prayer comprising an invocation, petition, and conclusion! And 'classic' from the Roman 'classicus' identifies us as citizens of the first rank, who should know better! What this obviously boils down to is the age old conflict of materiality and the health of the soul cleaved by the sword of societal amiguity. In an awful orgy of idolitry we have in a very real and illusive sense integrated these actual bits of, as you put it, metal and plastic into our flesh itself, becoming no more than Waldos while Charles Babbage's heart is ripped >from his chest by ravens dark as toner, eight claws upon each talon. Kai > ---------- > From: e.tedeschi > Reply To: classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu > Sent: Thursday, July 10, 1997 1:07 AM > To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers > Subject: Re: farewell > > Bill Whitson wrote: > > > > Hi Jim. > > > > > I agreed with the new rules until the bit where nobody can say > they disagree. > > > That, and I really don't have time to read the volume coming from > this list. > > > Farewell all, then. If you have questions about apple2 GSs or > Tiger Learning > > > Computers, please feel free to e-mail me personally > > > > Sorry you feel this way. The point wasn't really to prevent you > from > > disagreeing - it was to prevent a flood of responses which might > have > > bogged down the list for days. The whole idea of the new rules was > to > > curb the absolute flood of unsubs that have resulted for the most > part > > due to the constant bickering. We dropped from over 220 members to > 160 > > over the last month. I'm sorry to see you go. > > > > > Bill, please unsubscribe me. > > > > OK. > > > > Bill > > On the contrary, I think that people are unsubscribing because in this > > mailing list about collecting Classic icons there is NOT ENOUGH > discussion about the history of the computing boom and the hows and > whys > that led to it. To just limit the discussion to the mere hardware is > narrow minded and shows the kind of attitude which leads to consider > "the other" (the one which begs to differ) as an enemy or at least as > an > intruder. The "dont' bother us as we know what we should be talking > about" attitude might be legal and understandable but is it wise? > > As already said here several times, computers are bits of metal and > plastic. They are important for the sentiments and the feelings they > managed to raise in each and everybody (and soul) of us. You keep your > > hardware (and I will keep mine so that I can leave it to future > generations) but I will keep my principles and if this will mean I > will > have to do without you, then (I will be sorry but) be it. > > enrico > -- > ================================================================ > Enrico Tedeschi, 54, Easthill Drive, BRIGHTON BN41 2FD, U.K. > tel/fax +(0)1273 701650 (24 hours) or 0850 104725 mobile > website <http://www.ndirect.co.uk/~e.tedeschi> > ================================================================ > visit Brighton: <http://www.brighton.co.uk/tourist/welcome.htm> > >

28 years, 8 months

PDP-11 simulator plus V5, V6, and V7 Unix

by dougdu＠MICROSOFT.com

Thought this might be of some interest to list members... - Doug > ftp://ftp.digital.com/pub/DEC/sim/README > > This directory contains computer simulators developed by Bob Supnik > (bob.supnik(a)ljo.dec.com). > > In ./sources > > sim_2.2d.tar.Z - the simulator sources and documentation > > In ./software > > os8swre.tar.Z - sample OS/8 software and a user license from > DIGITAL > > rdosswre.tar.Z - sample RDOS software and a user license from Data > > General > > uv5swre.tar.Z - sample PDP-11 UNIX V5 software and a user license > from > SCO > > uv6swre.tar.Z - sample PDP-11 UNIX V6 software and a user license > from > SCO > > uv7swre.tar.Z - sample PDP-11 UNIX V7 software and a user license > from > SCO >

28 years, 8 months

classic software for sale

by pcoad＠crl.com

I have a bunch of classic DOS software, manuals, and disks for sale. Many are still in shrinkwrap. The list is too large to post to the list. Email me for a complete list including prices and terms. A short selection is below: A04 Visicorp VisiCalc (198?) manual, disks, CDEX training for VisiCalc, shrinkwrap A10 Microsoft Multiplan (1982-3) (green packaging) manual, disks, plastic case, shrinkwrap G10 IBM Technical Reference (1981) hardware reference manual for PC (includes BIOS source) manual, 3 ring binder, slipcase G11 IBM Hardware Maintenance and service Personal Computer - PCjr manual, slipcase C06 IBM Disk Operating System by Microsoft v1.10 (1982) manual in 3 ring binder and slipcase, disk, quick reference card D04 Ashton-Tate DBase III v1.1 (1984) complete (silver cardboard cover slip case) There are a good number of DOS packages, early Microsoft packages, office productivity packages, a few development tools, and some junk. Nearly all are classics. --pec -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Saved From The Dumpster Collection: http://www.crl.com/~pcoad/machines.html

28 years, 8 months

Zenith Portable Computer ZP-150

by josh＠netins.net

I sure do! Used to own one! It is a laptop simmilar to tandy's 600, except without a floppy. Uses microsoft "Works" integrated software. Nice 80X16 screen. Uses 10 AA batteries, yes TEN! Needs special cable to hook to printer, but shouldn't be hard to make one. Nice to use for a remote (very dumb) terminal. Has internal 300bps modem. Has a few softwares, like the Model 100 does. Hope it helps! Josh M. Nutzman +----------------------------------------------+ |"Life is like a river, you go with the flow...| | but in the end you usually end up dammed." | | -The Red Green Show | +----------------------------------------------+

28 years, 8 months

FAQ addition: Repairing Capacitive Keyboards

by kaikal＠MICROSOFT.com

REPAIRING CAPACITIVE KEYBOARDS v1.0 7/10/97 Kai Kaltenbach ---> What are capacitive keyboards? The vast majority of capacitive keyboards were and are manufactured by Keytronics of Spokane, Washington. The mechanism is really quite simple. A keypress pushes a foil circle onto the surface of a printed circuit board, thus completing the circuit and registering the keypress to the computer. Capacitive keyboards are very reliable; however, they will fail over time even if unused. Each foil contact circle is backed by a cylinder of PVC foam. The foam is subject to environmental deterioration. Once the foam loses its elasticity or dissolves entirely, the keys will stop working because the foil circles will no longer make good contact with the PC board. Various classic computer systems, such as the Processor Technology Sol, exhibit this problem after their 20+ year lifespan. ---> How do I tell if I have a capacitive keyboard? Just remove a key cap -- if there is a separate spring under the key cap, around the plunger, it's extremely likely that it's a capacitive keyboard. They won't always say Keytronic on the outside of the keyboard housing. ---> What do I need to start a repair job? First you need a set of replacement foam pads. Each foam pad is a cylinder about 1/4" in diameter and 3/16" long. There is a semi-rigid clear plastic circle attached to one end of the pad, and a foil cylinder attached to the other end. The only toosl you'll need are a #1 Philips screwdriver and a very small standard screwdriver such as those pen-clip types frequently included in computer tool kits (plus whatever tools are necessary to remove the keyboard from its enclosure). ---> Where do I get replacement pads? If you're a perfectionist, you can order replacement pads from Keytronic Corporation (http://www.keytronic.com/). However, it's much easier to simply find a capacitive keyboard in your local computer junk/surplus store and strip it for replacement pads (see above for info on identifying such keyboards). Note: If you're stranded on a desert island with only your computer and a screwdriver, you can get the important keys working again by using pads from the numeric keypad, which is usually in good shape because it's not used very much. ---> OK, I've got all of the necessary items, what are the repair steps? 1. Remove the keyboard from its enclosure. Place on an open workspace. Putting a pad of some type underneath may help avoid marring of the keycaps, but in any case be careful to prevent static discharge if your keyboard model has ICs on the PCB. A ground wrist strap is recommended. Lock up the cats. 2. With the keyboard face-down, remove all of the screws on the back of the PCB (there are a lot!) Don't worry, nothing is going to fall apart when you remove the PCB. 3. Remove the PCB. Place to the side. If it shows any signs of dirt on the contact side, you'll want to clean it with a non-residue, non-lubricating contact cleaner. 4. Identify pads that need replacement. If you're replacing all of the pads, you can skip this step. First, look for any foil circles that are damaged. Then, while looking down the length of the keyboard on the back side, press each row of keys and make sure that each foam pad protrudes sufficiently and cleanly out the back of each key plunger. The most-typed keys are the first to go (return, space, A, E, etc.) When in doubt, replace a pad -- that's a lot of screws to remove to do this over again! Replace pads one at a time. 5. Carefully remove the keycap and spring. There are actually keycap removal tools available, but whatever you use, just make sure to pry >from both sides at once, not just one side. Don't bend the key sideways. 6. Holding the keyboard perpendicular to the table, place the Philips screwdriver into the back of the key plunger and push gently to pop the plunger out the other side. 7. Pick up the plunger. Remove the foam cylinder by inserting a fingernail under the foam cylinder's clear plastic circle. A tiny bit of leverage and it'll pop out. 8. Put the replacement foam cylinder in place. Gingerly use the very small standard screwdriver to pop the clear plastic circle into the plunger by pressing around its outside edge. Be careful not to damage the foam or the foil circle. 9. Replace the plunger in the keyboard chassis. 10. Replace the spring and keycap. Use the very small standard screwdriver to press on the edge of the bottom of the plunger to firmly seat the key cap. 11. Repeat as necessary. Note: If you're skilled at delicate work and have various sized tools available, you can probably replace the foam pads from the back without removing the keycaps, but this is not recommended for beginners.

28 years, 8 months

farewell

by jim＠calico.litterbox.com

I agreed with the new rules until the bit where nobody can say they disagree. That, and I really don't have time to read the volume coming from this list. Farewell all, then. If you have questions about apple2 GSs or Tiger Learning Computers, please feel free to e-mail me personally Bill, please unsubscribe me. -- Jim Strickland jim(a)calico.litterbox.com -- "...It tells me that goose stepping morons like yourself should try reading books instead of burning them." -Dr. Henry Jones Sr. Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade

28 years, 8 months

1975 PE Altair Article Scans

by rcini＠msn.com

Bill: >>But don't look for it yet. It has been removed for review while I contact >>Ziff-Davis about reprint. I already spoke with the current owners of PE who >>apparently don't own the rights to the old issues. Probably be a couple >>days but I anticipate they'll be happy to let us use it. I hope that they do let us archive them. Frankly, I didn't focus on the fact that the archived article may be considered a "republication". Sorry about that. Does that mean that we would also have to contact Ed Roberts to get his permission to archive a copy of the construction manual? I'll send-up a DS-form on the article scans this afternoon. ------------------------------------------------- Rich Cini/WUGNET - ClubWin Charter Member (6) - MCPS Windows 95/Netowrking

28 years, 8 months

"Bally AstroBreast" and TI collectors

by chemif＠mbox.queen.it

At 12:48 10/07/97 -0500, you wrote: >The machine started off life as the Bally Professional Arcade (Yes, Bally >the pinball & arcade game people (not Bally the bra manufacturer... I >always thought it'd be cool if they were the same company... imagine the >possibilities) HA!HA!HA!HA! Yes, the pinball game where instead of side buttons you have..(immagine). HE!HE!HE! Ok, now a serious IN TOPICS question: Anyone collecting Texas Instruments minis (990 family) and related peripherals like Omni? 810 Printer? Let me know. Bye ????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? Riccardo Romagnoli,collector of:CLASSIC COMPUTERS,TELETYPE UNITS,PHONE AND PHONECARDS I-47100 Forli'/Emilia-Romagna/Food Valley/ITALY Pager:DTMF PHONES=+39/16888(hear msg.and BEEP then 5130274*YOUR TEL.No.* where*=asterisk key | help visit http://www.tim.it/tldrin_eg/tlde03.html

28 years, 8 months

Floppy Disk Media

by kaikal＠MICROSOFT.com

Unsurprisingly, the majority of floppy disk magnetic media was/is made by the leaders in audio magnetic media. The two historic giants in that field were BASF and 3M, who independently invented magnetic recording technology. Personally, my favorite floppy brand is Verbatim DataLife Plus. They use a Teflon media coating and are virtually indestructible in normal usage. If you spilled something on one, you just cut the side of the jacket, pulled out the media, washed it in warm soapy water, put it back in another jacket and you were good to go. Kai > ---------- > From: Marvin > Reply To: classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu > Sent: Thursday, July 10, 1997 10:36 AM > To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers > Subject: Floppy Disk Media > > Just curious here, does anyone have a list of the MANY brands of > floppy > disks and who the actual manufacturer might be? I got intrigued > several > years ago with the many floppy disks that were available and have been > just setting them aside as I saw interesting ones. So far, I haven't > bothered to catalog them but it is interesting to see the different > jackets. >

28 years, 8 months

Classic Computer Rescue List Update

by idavis＠comland.com

It has been a month since I started the list, so I guess it's time for an little update. We have quite a few entries so far, and the list really looks good. Only two of us (Brett and myself) have volunteered to have our vehicles repainted, stickers applied, and flashing lights installed. Just keep in mind that this list is strictly that, just a list. No one is comitted to do anything, but we are all here in the interest of preservation, so anything you can do will help. I, as well as everyone on the list has a limit to what they will/can haul and ship if necessary. We all pretty much have the same goals and limitations. If you are not on the list, and want to be added, feel free to email me. On a side note, I have also added a second page with a list of items that have been saved. If someone contacts you through the list and you manage to save something, go ahead and let me know. I will add it to the page. If you cannot get to the web page, or know someone who wants a copy, I can email it to you/them. Thanks for all of the entries. Isaac Davis | Don't throw out that old computer, idavis(a)comland.com | check out the Classic Computer Rescue List - indavis(a)juno.com | http://www.comland.com/~idavis/classic/classic.html

28 years, 8 months

Gateway 2000 Buys Amiga

by sinasohn＠crl.com

At 09:48 PM 7/9/97 GMT, you wrote: >the Amiga? Even the video editing/effects market seems to have turned >towards Apple machines. And even Apple itself is finding selling >difficult in the face of the Wintel machines. I'd be willing to bet that GW2K is after the video toaster technology (yes, I know it's a separate company). It is a pretty hot system, at least according to friends who do that sort of thing. --------------------------------------------------------------------- O- Uncle Roger "There is pleasure pure in being mad sinasohn(a)crl.com that none but madmen know." Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates San Francisco, California http://www.crl.com/~sinasohn/

28 years, 8 months

Gateway 2000 Buys Amiga

by BNICALEK＠aol.com

Collectors: All this talk about the Amiga's got me thinking about what I read in the "Amiga Format" magazine (which they still have subscriptions for). Apparently Gateway 2000 has purchased the Amiga name, but from what I hear, has no real plans for implementation on a new product at the moment. What there are however, are old A1200's or something like that (I'm not to familiar with the Amiga line) going for sale as "remanufactured". Also curious to see if people out there would be interested in seeing Amiga create a new "home computer" which would incorporate educational, productivity and entertainment titles into one package with Internet connectivity. Any thoughts? You can write me personally if you prefer. Bryan Nicalek bnicalek(a)aol.com

28 years, 8 months

"Bally Astrocade"

by coslor＠pscosf.peru.edu

Hello: I recently picked up two old game system units that i really don't know a whole lot about. I am hoping some you you may be able to fill me in on soem more information. 1) This unit is label "APF tv fun" pn the front. It has a knob with four game selection possibilities, on/off switch/ start button, angle setting, bat size setting, and ball speed setting. It appears this is an old Tennis/baseball type of game unit. It also appears that the actual controllers on on the main unit in the form of knobs. It saw it was made in Japan by APF Electronics, Inc. although I can't find a year. Could anyone help there? It also says underneath TV FUN Model No. 401A and seriel number is S- 052193. Finally it has the TV channell selector (3 or 4) and battery storage unit to run it off batteries. Could anyone please give me some more information on this, and also info. on if it might have some value out there or interest from any of you? 2) This looks like a 'golden oldie'. This also is a self contained game unit. It came complete with two odd looking joysticks, although the machine has ports for four joysticks. On the front it has a calculator looking button pad and to the right of that is a cassette insertion place along with an eject and reset button. Behing all of this is a storage compartment for several cassettes, complete with hard palstic cover for this area as well.I also have an overlay that says Astrocade BASIC (c) 1978 Astrocade, Inc.? This apparently goes with a cassette for the unit that says " BASIC, Computer Programming Cartridge with Built-In Interface (c) 1981 Astrocade, Inc. " On the cassette is a small like and an audio cassette Jack (in/out) -- also came witha small microphone.On the underside it says Astrocade Arcade Model ABA-1000-2 with a seriel # of 020777 and Astrovision, Inc, Garner, Iowa also on the bottom. Again, would any of you know more information on this unit, and if it might have some value out there to collectors? Are any of you interested? I only paid $5 for both of the above items, and I guess I am willing to entertain propositions if anyone wants them. Please let me know. Oh, yes, are there other cassettes available for the Astrocade? Are the above units very common these days? Thanks, CORD COSLOR //*=====================================================================++ || Cord G. Coslor P.O. Box 308 - 1300 3rd St. Apt "M1" -- Peru, NE || || (402) 872- 3272 coslor(a)bobcat.peru.edu 68421-0308 || || Classic computer software and hardware collector || || Autograph collector || ++=====================================================================*//

28 years, 8 months

Zenith Portable Computer ZP-150

by dastar＠crl.com

Anyone know much about the Zenith Portable Computer ZP-150? I'm possibly buying one this weekend and want to know a little about it before I go through all the trouble. Thanks! Sam ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Computer Historian, Programmer, Musician, Philosopher, Athlete, Writer, Jackass

28 years, 8 months

"Bally Astrocade"

by allisonp＠world.std.com

> 1) This unit is label "APF tv fun" pn the front. It has a knob with fou > game selection possibilities, on/off switch/ start button, angle settin > bat size setting, and ball speed setting. It appears this is an old > Tennis/baseball type of game unit. It also appears that the actual > controllers on on the main unit in the form of knobs. It saw it was mad > in Japan by APF Electronics, Inc. although I can't find a year. Could > anyone help there? It also says underneath TV FUN Model No. 401A and that's the oldie of the bunch! Early game machines from the mid '70 were the tennis/pong type and used a few chips. their logic was a mix of digital and analog. My guess would be 75-77 timeframe. It would be some years before the tvgames would go the microprocessor route to get the the first ataris and company. Allison

28 years, 8 months

Crappadore 64

by sinasohn＠crl.com

At 03:19 PM 7/3/97 -0700, you wrote: >> That's funny...a computer facelift. > > Actually, a number of companies offered the same type of thing for the >ZX-81/Timex-Sinclair 1000. It was to give the computer a real keyboard And the Atari ST -- to put it in a tower case, among other things. --------------------------------------------------------------------- O- Uncle Roger "There is pleasure pure in being mad sinasohn(a)crl.com that none but madmen know." Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates San Francisco, California http://www.crl.com/~sinasohn/

28 years, 8 months

Heathkit Hero 1/2000

by rcini＠msn.com

Just out of curiosity (isn't that a great lead-in??), how much would an old Heath Hero 1000/2000 robot go for?? They seem relatively scarce, but I would like to get one to support my renewed interest in robotics. Just what I need, another hobby... ------------------------ Rich Cini/WUGNET - ClubWin Charter Member (6) - MCPS Windows 95/Networking

28 years, 8 months

(fwd) FS: Commodore SuperPet SP9000 (Runs Fine) $100 (fwd)

by dastar＠crl.com

Maybe someone is interested in this. Sam ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Computer Historian, Programmer, Musician, Philosopher, Athlete, Writer, Jackass ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: "Chris Glackin" <cglackin(a)msn.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: FS: Commodore SuperPet SP9000 (Runs Fine) $100 For Sale: Commodore SuperPet SP9000 ($100) For sale by private owner Located in Farmington Hills, Michigan Prefer Pickup/Cash Only $100 PLEASE DIRECT ALL INQUIRIES TO: CGLACKIN(a)MSN.COM 1 Commodore Superpet SP9000 Turns on and seems to run fine * I can't verify the operation of any of the edge connectors due to lack of accessories, but I have turned it on and written some simple BASIC programs that run fine in 6502 and 6809 mode Has both 6502 and 6809 boards with toggle switches on side Green Monochrome trapezoid shaped screen works fine Original piezo speaker sound still works great Keyboard works great Case is in pretty good condition * No dents or major marks, a few minor scratches that could be touched up The 'hood' lifts fine, doesn't even squeak, and has the original stick inside to hold it up - just like a car hood (anyone ever make a miniature drop light for the Pet series?) ** I do not have ANY manuals or accessories for this computer When this computer is turned on, a menu comes up with a list of programming languages to select from. At the top of the screen it says: WATERLOO MICROSYSTEMS -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I learned to program in 6502 assembly language on the Pet 2001 w/ a 4040 dual disk drive unit in 1981. I never even knew of a SuperPet until I found this one waiting for the Sanitation Engineers on a curb a few years ago. I thought it was the regular old Pet when I saw it from afar. So I picked it up and carried it home - an excruciating half mile journey. If you are one who remembers lifting a Pet, you know what I'm talking about! I figured I'd relive some of the ol' days and actually put some sort of working system together, but there just isn't any time left in this SDK-A-MINUTE computer world. I have met others online that love their Pet's -- and other various computer antiques -- and seem to enjoy keeping them running, so perhaps this SuperPet can find a much more deserving home. The serial number is SP0000284. Is this the 284th SuperPet off the line? Out of how many? Is it related to HAL? If anyone knows the answers, I'd love to hear them. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- E-MAIL: CGLACKIN(a)MSN.COM Commodore SuperPet SP9000 for $100 -- Sam ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Computer Historian, Programmer, Musician, Philosopher, Athlete, Writer, Jackass

28 years, 8 months

Amigas and PETs...

by foxnhare＠goldrush.com

RE: CD-32 and Amiga w/drive on the side... The CD32 is actually an Amiga 1200 not the more limited 600. The 1200 has the more advanced AGA graphics chipset (and a 68020 processor). There are expansion units (SX-1 I think is the name of them) readily available to bump the CD32 up to a full-fledged 1200. You can easily adapt an IBM clone 'box' power supply to use on the 500. I have my Amiga 500 and hard drive wired into one. (the hardest part would be finding an Amiga 500 power connector) The 500 is a great computer and one of the easiest to expand, (except for the 2000). You can find alot of good projects on the internet for it. ===-===--===---=-=-=-=-=-===---===--- >From: Marvin <marvin(a)rain.org> >Subject: Pet Serial Numbers >Just curious if anyone knows what the starting serial number was for the >Commodore Pets? So far, the following are the earliest Pets I have. I >believe these both came from the local university at one of their sales. My oldest is in the 14000 area IIRC. It is an original 8k unit (the tape drives with it were butchered Sanyo units, so it was'nt too late in the productiion run.) --==-=-=-=--=--=--=====--=--==--=-= >From: Cord Coslor <coslor(a)pscosf.peru.edu> >Subject: c-16 and Plus/4 >I remember seeing a post here a week or two ago asking about the >availability of Commodore 16 and Plus/4 cartridges. I response, I >gathered, was that they were not very common here in teh United States, >and seemed just altogether uncommon.... maybe even some doubt as to the >actual number of titles created. >Recently, I picked up my first c-16 / Plus/4 cart -- it was Scott Adams >adventure game Strange Odyssey sold by Commodore. This titles was not >mentioned by those on this listserv. It was one of the set of eight I had bought (all with the commodore brand name on em), I probably didn't mention it cause I don't remember all the titles... (I am reconing they are in the outside storage closet which is currently inhabited by wasps...) *bummer* >Anyway, I also have a TON of other titles that I have been using for some >time on my PC emulator called Minus/4. A very good emulator. So, I guess >what I am finally getting at is it seems there actually WERE a lot of >different titles created for these machines, though I do not know the >actual numbers of titles, quantities, or popularity in the US. Could >anyone out there fill us in on some facts? Besides Magic Carpet Software, Data-20 (responsible for the +3 productivity programs in the +4s ROM), and Progressive Software (Superbase is available for the Plus/4!) I didnt hear of all that much stuff put out in the U.S. Europe on the other hand has had a great following with the Plus/4 and C-16, most of the programs I would safely guess are from there. User support here was either through PLUG (Plus/4 Users Group), or Jim Hehl in Anchorage. Plug provided a list of European distributors and Jim was into program conversion (Such popular 64 programs like Speedscript were converted). The major bummer about European Plus/4 stuff is alot of it is compressed and locked into PAL mode and thus unviewable on NTSC displays. (Jim & Jack Vandewrwhite had converted some though, I think they are available on funet.fi's FTP., I think the series is called 'ceepee4' something...) >I just don't have the experience in these machines needed to accurately >inform others. >Finally, does anyone have a c-16 or Plus/4 machine for sale or trade. I >just have this one cartridge, but I have a burning desire to acquire one >or more of these machines. Please let me know. Actually.... YES! I picked up one a couple weeks back and will sell it to you for the price I paid ($2.95) plus shipping (USPS, $10 or so...) It comes in its box with a Power Supply (I don't think I have any extra manuals, sorry). I just powered it up and it does work (though there is a strange wire hanging out; looking on the motherboard I would assume it was for a utility cart or something. Regardless it doesn't affect operation.) E-mail me if interested. Larry Anderson -- -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- Visit our web page at: http://www.goldrush.com/~foxnhare/ Call our BBS (Silicon Realms BBS 300-2400 baud) at: (209) 754-1363 -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-

28 years, 8 months

HHC

by dastar＠crl.com

Yea! Thanks to Ted Birdsell's reservation we reached the 100 mark! (This is like a Jerry Lewis telethon.) C'mon, let's squeeze out 50 more! I know you all can do it!!! :) I'm thinking about putting an advertisement on some usenet groups to get some more response. I'm going to advertise them at $15 plus shipping. Please do not get alarmed. Of course I will be making a profit. Remember, there are 400 of these HHCs available. Tell a friend! Sam ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Computer Historian, Programmer, Musician, Philosopher, Athlete, Writer, Jackass

28 years, 8 months

(fwd) Petition for UNIX Src License - status

by bluesky6＠ix.netcom.com

I thought this would be interesting. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- In alt.folklore.computers, wkt(a)hennry.cs.adfa.oz.au (Warren Toomey) wrote: %The petition urging SCO to make source code licenses for 6th and 7th Edition %UNIX (and their relations) is going well, with over 200 signatures on the %petition so far. However, we still need your support to encourage SCO to act. % %If you ever used UNIX on a PDP-11, own a copy of John Lions Commentary %(legal or otherwise), believe that these systems are historically %interesting, or even if you think owning a source code license to a %REAL UNIX would be cool, then please SIGN THE PETITION at % % http://minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au/PUPS/petition.html % %If you know anybody else who might be prepared to sign this petition, %then ___pass this message onto them___. Finally, check out the home page %of the PDP-11 UNIX Preservation Society at % % http://minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au/PUPS/ % %Many thanks in advance, % % Warren Toomey wkt(a)cs.adfa.oz.au % %

28 years, 8 months

1975 PE Altair Article Scans

by rcini＠msn.com

Hello, all: Here's one for you...a kind sole that I know on CompuServe was kind enough to produce color scans of the original MITS Altair article from the 1/75 issue of Popluar Electronics. I posted it yesterday on the Classic Computer ftp site under the name altarmag.zip. The file is big (3.7mb), containing about 9 jpgs. Wait till you see the color! I'm also working on this guy to prepare Adobe PDF scans of the original Altair construction manual and schematics. I've seen some scans previously, but they have shadows, etc. Hopefully, these will be of similar quality to the mag scans. When I've got them, I'll post a message. ------------------------ Rich Cini/WUGNET - ClubWin Charter Member (6) - MCPS Windows 95/Networking

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Books

by manney＠nwohio.com

Does anyone want Intel's book, "Assembly language programming" for the 8080 and 8085 chip? Free, U pay postage.

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I would like to unsubscribel

by ynagasaw＠ic.sunysb.edu

How can I unsubscribe? Thank you, Yujin

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Machines on the way to the dump...

by dbetz＠xlisper.mv.com

I'm taking the following machines to the dump on Saturday. If anyone is within striking distance of Bedford, NH and wants any of these machines please let me know. TI-99/4a (doesn't work) A few TI cartridges and books Heathkit H-11 (works) Heathkit dual 8" disk drive unit (doesn't work) Vector V3-5036 S-100 system (works) Vector dual 5.25" disk drive unit (untested) VT-100 clone -- David Betz dbetz(a)xlisper.mv.com DavidBetz(a)aol.com (603) 472-2389

28 years, 8 months

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