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by jeffh＠unix.aardvarkol.com

Ben, I recieved your money order in the mail, but due to my work schedule, it's likely I won't be able to try and ship the Model 4 until at least Tuesday. I'll let you knwo as soon as I ship. Thanks. Jeff ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Amiga enthusiast and collector of early, classic microcomputers http://www.geocities.com/siliconvalley/lakes/6757

28 years, 8 months

Dead Thomson To7 -70

by strzecha＠kis.p.lodz.pl

Hi, Yesterday I recived Thomson To7-70 computer, which is totally dead. When it's working, on display there are only horizontal color lines, each of them has witdh of one character. Is ther anybody who can say me whots's bad. I suppose this can be demaged processor (it's incredibly hot after 2-3 minuters of working), but I am not sure. Thanks, Krzysztof Strzecha

28 years, 8 months

PAM computer, Convergent?

by fmc＠reanimators.org

Sam Ismail <dastar(a)crl.com> writes: > Nope. I've got a Pivot. This was nothing like the Pivot. It was close > to the shape of an Osbourne and it was beige. It was close to the > dimensions of a tower case only it sits horizontally. You are right, that is not a Pivot. Unfortunately I am not sure what it is. > I got mine for free. Like I said, "bogus price". I didn't buy it. I didn't even inquire at the counter. IBM-compatibles (and I think these were fairly so) aren't real interesting to me even if George Morrow did let his name get put on 'em. (Though I do have one of the Osborne 3 flavor...a moment of weakness I guess.) BTW, speaking of Morrow stuff, I met a guy at the Foothill swap meet today who was selling a Micro Decision (claimed to be an MD-11 but two floppies, no hard disk) for $30. I'm not interested -- got two of 'em that I haven't touched for a while -- but thought someone here might be. Has software and manuals but I did not see the big stack of paper-bound manuals that I might expect; the seller said he got it >from an ex-Morrow employee and it may have been assembled from excess parts but is functional. Other stuff found at the Foothill swap: Sinclair ZX-80. Well, it's in pieces, but board, case top, case bottom, wall wart...yep, looks like they're all there. $5. First one I've seen in years so I snagged it. A couple of S-100 bits. Some HP employees were perturbed by the prices of quality S-100 gear and so set about designing their own, and it looks like they got to use HP's printed-circuit production facilities. Apparently I missed the chassis but got the junk box for another $5. Included are a pristine blank CPU board of their design, as well as a couple of S-100 bus terminators. S-100 bus terminators with the HP logo, whodathunkit? Part number on the board is 7373-60003, and the board comes with helpful instructions in the traces (no solder mask or silkscreen): TERMINATOR THE LAST BOARD I think there is a story here, and I want to know more of it than I got today. Convergent Tech Workslate, plus printer and serial/parallel box, condition uncertain. $26. Pricey but if I get it cleaned up and working it could make a nice desk toy at the office. What sort of power input do these things want? Xerox 820 board, socketed but ICs not plugged in. Another project that the owner lost interest in. $2. -Frank McConnell

28 years, 8 months

What exactly, is an IBM System 36?

by spc＠armigeron.com

I have the oportunity to aquire an IBM System 36 model 5364 with manuals and operating disks, all in working condition. My question is, I have never heard of this system (the 360/370, yes). What can I expect? Secondly, from the same source, I can get a Compac Portable I XT with harddrive and memory upgrade, ethernet 3/comm and AST 5250 emulation (some mainframe terminal?), again all in working condition, but from what I hear, it's portable in the term that yes, you can lug the entire setup. Third, for anyone that is interested (you pay shipping, plus maybe a few extra bucks - whatever you think it's worth) the following are also available: 10M HD for an IBM 360 Monroe (possible) "bookkeeping machine" Underwood typewriter (manual) (unknown) manual adding machine I'll be hearing more about this stuff on Monday. -spc (Is getting more stuff than he knows what to do with ... )

28 years, 8 months

IBM 5110

by strzecha＠kis.p.lodz.pl

Hi, I'm looking for information about IBM 5110 computer. Is there anybody who can help me ? Thanks Krzysztof Strzecha

28 years, 8 months

HP 9836, HP 86 ??

by ard＠p850ug1.demon.co.uk

In message <199707122130.QAA02137(a)Starbase.NeoSoft.COM> classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu writes: > I was just checking out a new store near me and saw an HP 9836. > Anyone know anything about this? It looked like a one piece setup > with a built-in monitor and 2 5 1/4" floppy drives and keyboard. It > was BIG. Can anyone tell me about it? I can't tell you much about it, although if it's the machine I am thinking of, the monitor is actually a separate box that locks in place. It's a 68000-based machine, and has GPIB as standard. SOme of them have a ROM board containing (I think) HP-basic, while others boot from floppy. > I also saw an HP 86 with lots of carts plugged into the rear and an > HP 9816 monitor and HP 9121 3 1/2" dual drive unit. I'm talking to > the guy about picking these up so if someone can give me some info on > them I'd appreciate it. The HP86 is basically an HP85 without the built-in monitor,tape drive, or printer, but with GPIB as standard. The 9121 is a single-sided version of the 9122 if that's any help. > ----- > David Williams - Computer Packrat -tony

28 years, 8 months

What Classic Computer are All About - A Lovers

by manney＠nwohio.com

> %but that a 25 _year_ old minicomputer on the same desk was still > going strong. > > It really depends. No doubt minicomputer HD were reliable, but the > early MFM stuff for PCs were shitty to work with. Depends on the HDD. Some (such as the ST-225) were el cheapo products (cheap at the time, compared with more expensive ones -- I have a 1984 adv't, listing ST-225's at $400; ST-251 at $600!)...IBM's Xybec controllers were slow, tho' I don't know how reliable. Some ST-506/412 -- e.g., the ST-225 -- drives lacked autopark heads, thus inviting problems.

28 years, 8 months

Fwd: TRS80 Hardware and Software

by jolminkh＠c2.telstra-mm.net.au

This advert appeared in an Australian newsgroup, obviously in error. It turns out the guy is in Milwaukee, WI. Perhaps some of you USA people are interested. Hans Olminkhof FOR SALE: Trs80/Tandy/Radio Shack Hardware & Software Make replies to: Rrotaru(a)execpc.com As of July 10, 1997 the following items are for sale and are open to any reasonalbe offer (either as a package or individual items). All items MUST go! So, don't wait too long to respond. All items are in working condition unless otherwise noted. You pay for shipping. HARDWARE: (2) Trs80 Model 4's (both need power supplies; 64K Non-Gate Array's) (2) Radio Shack Line Printer VIII's (with extra ribbons)...both work fine. (1) Tandy DT-1 Data Terminal (w/manual, tech manual, spare keyboard & parts) (2) Trs80 Model 1's (each w/ expansion interface, manuals & monitor) (1) Joystick for Model 1 (Big Five "Trisstick") (1) TC-8 cassette interface for Model 1 (with tapes!) (1) Radio Shack Line Printer II interface for Model 1 (1) Microtek MT-32 Printer/Memory module for Model 1 (1) Micro Mint 300 Baud Modem (for Model 1; w/ Comm80 cassette software) (1) Orchestra 90 Stereo Music Synthesizer (for Model 3/4 w/floppies & docs) (5) Single sided/Double density (180K) 5.25" floppy drives (orig. Tandy) (2) Tandy Color Computer 2's (Coco 2) (1) Direct connect modem (300 baud for Coco) (1) Tandy CM-2 Color Monitor (for Coco 3, but will do CGA on IBM-PC's!) SOFTWARE: TRS80 MODEL 1: Advanced Statistical Analysis (cassette) Level 1 Game Pack (cassette) Personal Finance (cassette) Cassette Comm (obvious) Temple of Apshai (cassette game) TRS80 MODEL 3: In Memory Information (cassette) Assembly Language Tutor (cassette - Model 1 & 3, two copies one is sealed) Trs80/Z80 Assembly Language Library (Model 1 & 3; floppies) Computer Graphics (Basic/utils/subroutines; floppy) Compiler Basic (Model 1 & 3; floppy) Series 1 Editor/Assembler Ver. 1.00 (floppy) Trsdos 6.02.00 (orig. disk & manual) Mail/File System Ver. 3.3 (Galactic Software; floppy) Find It Quick-Instant Software (Model 1 & 3; floppy) Mirco Courier Ver. 1.00.00 (floppy) Profile Ver. 3.4 (floppy) Micro Pilot Authoring System Ver. 1.00.00 (floppy) Computer Assisted Reading Development C.A.R.D. (floppy) Basic Course (cassette) Scripsit (text editor; cassette) Lots of cassette software...Mostly Model 3 stuff...some are orig. tapes TRS80 MODEL 4: Profile 4 Plus Ver. 1.00.03 (floppy) Disk Scripsit Ver. 1.00 (text editor; floppy) Target Planner Calc (spreadsheet; floppy) The Producer Ver. 4.0 (create basic programs using plain english; floppy) Deskmate ReportStar (word processing/report creator; CP/M software - Montizuma Micro) COLOR COMPUTER 2/3 (CoCo2 or 3): Mickey's Space Adventure (kid's game, sealed; floppy) Ghana Bwana (kid's game, 2 copies- 1 is sealed; floppy) Color Math (kid's math tutor, 2 copies- 1 is sealed; cassette) Rocky's Boots (kid's game; floppy) Flightsim I (for Coco 3; floppy) Dungeons of Daggorath (kid's game, cartridge) Personal Finance II (cartridge) Color Scripsit (text editor; cartridge) Spectaculator (spreadsheet program; cartridge) BasicOS9 (floppy) OS9 Profile (floppy) Castle of Tharoggao (game; cartridge) Rogue (Coco3; floppy) Kronis Rift (Lucasfilm game, Coco3; floppy) Chromacassette's (several with games and utils; cassettes) MANUALS AND DOCS: Oricle 80 (photo copies) Tandy Home Education Systems - Vidtex Basic Computer Games/More Basic Computer Games Series I Editor/Assembler Tandy Intelligent Modem DC-2212 (manual only- no modem) Profile III Plus (no disk) Super Scripsit (no disk) Trsdos Ver. 6.1.2 (manual only, no disk...copies available upon request) Dow Jones Information Service User Guide Business Mailing List Quick Quiz Lynn's Check Register System (photocopy) Disk Course (photocopy) Teacher Aid (photocopy) T-Bug - Z80 Monitor & Debugging Aid (photocopy) Micro Music (photocopy) Tape Payroll System (photocopy) Cross Reference Utility (photocopy) Host Term (photocopy) Show & Spell (photocopy) Statistical Analysis (photocopy) In Memory Information system (photocopy) BOOKS: Introduction to Trs80 Gaphics - Don Inman Trs80 Graphics - Don Inman Advanced Level II Basic - Don Inman/Bob Albrecht/Ramon Zamora) Using the Trs80 In Your Home - Charles D. Sternberg Trs80 Graphics for the Model 1 & Model 3 - David A. Kater/Susan J. Thomas Visicalc For Your Trs80 - Carol Klitzner/Matthew J. Plociak Jr Visicalc Applications - Robt. E. Williams/Bruce J. Taylor/Brian L. King Business Programming Applications - Wm. Barden (for Model 1/3/2/16) Introdcution to SuperScripsit Word Processing Tandy Source Book (software applications - Vol. 8) Business Programs for the Trs80 Model 1/3 - Charles D. Sternberg The Rest of 80 - 80Micro Magazine Publications 80Micro's Review Guide Trs80 Data File Programming Model 1/3 - Finkel/Brown Encyclopedia for the Trs80 Vol. 1-10 Understanding Digital Computers - Radio Shack Getting Started With Trs80 Basic (Model 1/3/4) - Radio Shack MAGAZINES: Trs80 Microcomputer News (1979-1986, some years complete, some not) 80 Micro (1981-1988; some years complete, some not) MISC IBM & COMPATIBLE STUFF: Model PC-130a 150 Watt switching power supply (new in box...never used) Atari SX212 External 1200 baud modem (For Atari and IBM; Hayes compatible!) Viva 2400 baud Internal Fax/Modem (fax is 9600 send/4800 receive) Telix VGA TTL mono monitor (must have TTL video card) Epson FX-80 printer (still prints ok, carriage needs cleaning) ====================================================================== ====== REPLY TO: Rrotaru(a)execpc.com ====================================================================== ======

28 years, 8 months

HP 9836, HP 86 ??

by fmc＠reanimators.org

ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk (Tony Duell) writes: > The HP86 is basically an HP85 without the built-in monitor,tape drive, > or printer, but with GPIB as standard. The 9121 is a single-sided version of > the 9122 if that's any help. There are two flavors of HP 86, the 86A and the 86B. The 86A does not have the built-in GPIB (aka IEEE-488 aka HP-IB). Instead it has three connectors on the back. All three look the same, like Centronics printer connectors but maybe with screw-downs instead of ears. One is for a cable to a Centronics-ish printer. The other two are for cables to external 5.25" floppy drives. The 86B does away with all this and instead has an HP-IB connector. Re: the 9121: yep, single-sided Sony stiffy drives that hold about 300KB I think. It's been too long and I have forgotten just about everything except that the single-sided ones never seemed to hold quite enough (this on HP 150s). HP was an early adopter of the Sony 3.5" stiffies, back when it was not clear that the 3.5" format was going to be the winner from the several sub-5.25" media. You know how 3.5" drives open the metal slider so they can get at the medium? The very earliest drives didn't, and the stiffies didn't spring-load the slider -- it was up to the user to slide the slider before insertion into and after removal from the drive. For a while there were goes-either-way stiffies: slider spring-loaded so that they would close on eject from an auto-open drive, but also with a catch so you could slide the slider over to the left before insertion into a non-auto-open drive, then pinch the corner after removal to release the catch and let the spring pull the slider closed. That is why those stiffies have the legend "PINCH" near that corner. I don't know how pervasive these early drives were. The place where I worked at the time had a few 1983-dated pieces of equipment (a 9121, some 9133XVs) that were the auto-open variety. -Frank McConnell

28 years, 8 months

Saturday Haul

by thedm＠sunflower.com

I need a 128 for my collection, care to part with one? ---------- > From: Marvin <marvin(a)rain.org> > To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> > Subject: Saturday Haul > Date: Saturday, July 12, 1997 10:23 PM > > Today was one of those good days/bad days. I ended up with quite a few > machines I didn't have but ended up losing out on some stuff. The bad > news? I bought an 11/23 w/ HD and it somehow got separated from the > stuff I bought and I do not have it now. Second, that Spectragraphics > CAD workstation I have been telling people about had 6 Sony color > Trinitron monitors, all working, and they sold for $5 each. I am told > (after the fact) that they are worth about $500 each on the used > equipment market. > > Good news, I ended up with: > > Tandy 6000 HD w/docs and software > ATT PC7300 w/ some docs and software > Three Apple IIe computers w/ 4 floppy drives total > Apple IIc computer w/monitor, printer, software, manuals > Wang Computer model PC-XC3-2 (docs coming when they get found) > Two Commodore 128C computers > Non-Linear-Systems Kaypro II > Two IBM PC Keyboards > Six C64 game cartridges > Modem for C64 > Radio Shack Printer > 386 DX40 w/ 200 MB HD, 6 MB Ram > > Total outlay was about $30. Ham radio events can be a goldmine for old > computer stuff!

28 years, 8 months

Altair Construction Manual

by rcini＠msn.com

To all Altair fans... Well, my more-than-kind individual has provided me with the first of three installments of the original Altair construction manual. He scanned all 102 pages of the doc and made it into a PDF document -- almost 7mb in size. He is also providing me with manuals for "the 88-4K, 88-ACR, and other stuff." I'm not too familiar with all of the available options since the Altair was really before my time, but it looks like the 4k memory board and other stuff. I'm not going to U/L the docs yet, first for size reasons, and second, until we determine if we should try to contact Triumph-Adler... On Thu, 10 Jul 1997, Jim Willing wrote: >>So, it can be assumed that TA [Triumph-Adler of Germany] now >>owns all of the rights to things MITS/Altair. I've tried to contact them >>on occasion on related matters and have gotten no response of any >>kind to date. Anybody have any thoughts? ------------------------ Rich Cini/WUGNET - ClubWin Charter Member (6) - MCPS Windows 95/Networking

28 years, 8 months

PDP performance question.

by allisonp＠world.std.com

> How is a PDP-11/23 compared to a 486SX/33? An 11/23 is slower than a 486 if it's running faster than 16mhz. but a 486 is running single user. > About how many percent is the PDP of the 486? what is a PDP? choices 1,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,11/780,11/750,11/730? > About how many percent of the 486 is the VAX? Depending... first I've rarely seen a vax run a single user OS. A 486dx/33 compares to a 3100m38 if they are both running *nix. while the vax is slower in MIPs it is the ultimate CISC and can do more in fewer than a 486. It is also optimized for multitasking/timsharing something the 486 is not. Allison

28 years, 8 months

What Classic Computer are All About - A Lovers View

by ard＠p850ug1.demon.co.uk

> It's a pity that a lot of the custom uProcessors were never really > publicly documented. That includes the ones found in the Sharp Basic > calculators. Some of the Sharp ones were documented - There are Technical reference/machine language manuals for (at least) the PC1500 and PC1350 families - I have both of them. Sharp service manuals (yes, they exist as well) contain schematics/pinouts but little (if any) machine code information. > Ben -tony >

28 years, 8 months

We now own a VAX!

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

In a message dated 97-07-12 19:18:47 EDT, DA Seagraves put forth: you might want to post about it on comp.sys.dec newsgroup. i asked for some info there on my uVAX ][ i got recently, and got some really good info from the regulars there. there's a faq also, try ftp'ing to digital and look around. i know there's one there. << For $200 I got a VAX from a business that went under. It's a VAXserver 3100, with VMS 5.3 on it. I have no idea what to do with it, this is the first time I've ever seen VMS. I have a 50-user liscense. When I boot it up, it seems to wait forever for DECWindows to get DECnet or something... Someone please explain what this is and what it can do. Any help appreciated. This had an IP number, so it may be on the Internet if I can make it work... >> david

28 years, 8 months

Classic Video Games

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

In a message dated 97-07-12 07:42:02 EDT, Sam Ismail writes: << If you've ever heard that one Fleetwood Mac song, you'll recognize the "tackle" sound in one part of the song where he sings "So digital" and then you hear "blrrrp blrrrp". >> actually, it's supertramp. =D david

28 years, 8 months

Modem Collection

by IVIE＠cc.usu.edu

> Just curious (again!) if anyone is collecting the early modems used on > computers and what might have been the earliest commercial phone modem. I'm not doing it on purpose, but I find myself unable to let go of this Novation CAT modem that I dredged up a few years ago... Roger Ivie ivie(a)cc.usu.edu

28 years, 8 months

Panasonic HandHeld Update and FINAL COUNT!

by dastar＠crl.com

Ok Folks, here it is...the final count. Any last minute additions will be accomodated up until tonight so act soon. E-mail Name Qty ------------------------------ ----------------- --- dastar(a)crl.com Sam Ismail 4 allisonp(a)world.std.com Allison Parent 3 jeff(a)unix.aardvarkol.com Jeff Hellige 2 KFergason(a)aol.com Kelly Fergason 3 tuck6(a)ibm.net Gary Tucker 2 sinasohn(a)crl.com Roger Sinasohn 5 gram(a)cnct.com Ward Griffiths 3 bcoakley(a)teleport.com Ben Coakley 1 pcoad(a)crl.com Paul Coad 2 jimw(a)agora.rdrop.com Jim Willing 3 rcini(a)msn.com Richard Cini 3 hans1(a)filan00.grenoble.hp.com Hans Pufal 5 ds_spenc(a)alcor.concordia.ca Doug Spence 3 jott(a)maddog.ee.nd.edu John Ott 1 bwit(a)pobox.com Bob Withers 4 frank(a)5points.com Frank Peseckis 2 zmerch(a)northernway.net Roger Merchberger 3 ursa(a)idir.net ursa 4 rws(a)ais.net Richard Schauer 2 stuart(a)colossus.mathcs.rhodes.edu Brian Stuart 3 jlodoen(a)mega.megamed.com Jeff Lodoen 1 s-ware(a)nwu.edu Scott Ware 3 SUPRDAVE(a)aol.com SUPRDAVE(a)aol.com 1 jrice(a)texoma.net James Rice 3 bluesky6(a)netcom.com Benedict Chong 2 dynasoar(a)mindspring.com Kirk Scott 2 jolminkh(a)c2.telstra-mm.net.au Hans Olminkhof 2 mtapley(a)swri.edu Mark Tapley 1 scm(a)smorang.enm.maine.edu Stacy Morang 2 danjo(a)xnet.com Brett 2 haley(a)galstar.com Curtis Haley 1 george.lin(a)documentum.com George Lin 2 idavis(a)comland.com Isaac Davis 2 fmc(a)reanimators.org Frank McConnell 10 mpsayler(a)cs.utexas.edu Matthew Sayler 1 gpine(a)popmail.mcs.net Gerald Pine 2 kai(a)microsoft.com Kai Kaltenbach 2 jdgale(a)romulus.ncsc.mil Jeremiah Gale 1 tedbird(a)netcom.com Ted Birdsell 2 broswell(a)syssrc.com Bob Roswell 1 foxnhare(a)goldrush.com Larry Anderson 2 Current Total: 103 If you're not on here, better e-mail to me soon. If you tried e-mailing me and your message bounced, send it to the group discussion and you will be forgiven. If your e-mail address as shown is incorrect please send me your correct address. I also have gotten quite a bit of interest from my internet sale ad and as a result the price per each for all of you will likely be pushed down. If you don't know what the hell I'm blathering about, this is in regards to the Panasonic HandHeld computers (about 400) that we are making a deal on. It was a handheld unit which featured: 6502 processor 8K RAM (the "top-of-the-line" model) 3 slots for 8K program EPROM on-board 40-column thermal printer (paper can still be found allegedly) 26 character x 1 line display Full "QWERTY" keyboard FORTH-like language in ROM called "SNAP" Measures 9" x 3.5" These units also have: Custom built tray to hold 10 additional 8K EPROMS Tray also housed both computer and printer to make one compact unit Some MCM 68674 8K EPROMs with programs on them AC Adaptor Current price will be < $10 per unit! If you would like to reserve one (or two or three or ten), e-mail me. Sam ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Computer Historian, Programmer, Musician, Philosopher, Athlete, Writer, Jackass

28 years, 8 months

Classic Video Games

by jeffh＠unix.aardvarkol.com

At 06:38 PM 7/11/97 -0700, you wrote: >When I was in high school, there was a precursor to the Lynx/Gameboy/etc. >crowd that was a football game. There were little red LED's(?) to represent >players, and you had up, down, and run buttons to control the quarter back. >It was very simplistic; you basically just ran the quarterback until you got >a touchdown (but I think you could do a fieldgoal?) Anyway, I think Radio >Shack sold one, but it may have been someone else. Yes, I remember these quite well...they made the most annoying 'blips' and 'beeps'! I don't recall who made them or what they were called, though I believe Coleco made something like it at one time. I remember they were really popular when I was in junior high, about 1979-80 or so and that the teachers must have had quite a collection of similar games the way they were always confiscating them! I also had a fairly neat blackjack handheld at about the same time. Jeff jeffh(a)unix.aardvarkol.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Amiga enthusiast and collector of early, classic microcomputers http://www.geocities.com/siliconvalley/lakes/6757

28 years, 8 months

History of Video Games (RE: "Bally Astrocade")

by kaikal＠MICROSOFT.com

Neither - The first arcade videogame was Nutting & Associates Computer Space, designed by Nolan Bushnell in 1971, who later designed Pong (1972) with the profits, and founded Atari. The first home videogame was the Magnavox Odyssey 100, in 1972. The first ROM cartridge-based home video game title is co-owned by the Fairchild Channel F and the RCA Studio II, which were introduced simultaneously in 1976. The first vector graphic arcade game was Lunar Lander in 1979, followed by Asteroids later that year. The first (and only) vector graphic home video game was the GCE/Milton Bradley Vectrex in 1982. Kai > ---------- > From: PG Manney > Reply To: classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu > Sent: Friday, July 11, 1997 6:59 AM > To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers > Subject: Re: "Bally Astrocade" > > Speaking of video games, I have 2 different sources which say that the > first video game was > > 1)Pong > 2) Asteroids. > > I personally believe asteroids, as the game (in my recollectopn, at > least) > used vector graphics, which should be faster and simpler than Pong's > raster > image. > > ...Or am I all wet? Anyone know? > > (Trivia -- What does "Pac" in Pac-man stand for? answer on request.) >

28 years, 8 months

HHC

by dastar＠crl.com

A couple people have asked about shipping costs. I hadn't quite thought about it until last night. Everyone should be aware that they will be paying the shipping costs both to and from me (or whoever is a distributor). Here's the current plan: I will have all the units either sent to me or get some volunteers around the country to have a bunch of units sent to them. I am assuming Mike will not want to handle shipping to each person. I will ask but I seriously doubt it. So anyway, he's in Jersey and I'm in California, and shipping will be a maximum if all are sent to me. Therefore, I would like all the units with a west coast destination sent to me, all with a mid-west destination sent to ???, southwest destination sent to ???, east coast sent to ???, etc. From there they will be individually packed and shipped out. So therefore we get hit with double shipping charges. Shitty I know. I figure total shipping costs will be $4 for a single unit, $5 for a couple, etc. Not sure exactly. I realize the shipping costs may not be what some people bargained for so at this point I would ask that if you want to or need to back out, please do it soon. I am going to try and negotiate a lump sum for the total units that will hopefully bring the cost per unit to $7. That's what I'm shooting for. Stay tuned. Sam ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Computer Historian, Programmer, Musician, Philosopher, Athlete, Writer, Jackass

28 years, 8 months

1975 PE Altair Article Scans

by rcini＠msn.com

Jim: >>Sadly it gets a bit more contorted than that... Ed Roberts sold MITS to >>Pertec (who proceeded to largely run it into the ground B^{ ), who was >>then purchased by Triumph-Adler of Germany. >>So, it can be assumed that TA now owns all of the rights to things >>MITS/Altair. I've tried to contact them on occasion on related matters >>and have gotten no response of any kind to date. Thanks for the history. One could probably claim that since the platform is no longer supported and that efforts to contact the rightful owner have failed, so long as we don't get "stupid" about it, we should be able to archive the docs...I hope. I'd hate to lose this important piece of information (although I will hold onto it and provide pages to members upon request). What a pain this copyright law is! Jim, re: the Hero 1000/2000 robots, where can I find Mobile Ed. Productions?? ------------------------------------------------- Rich Cini/WUGNET - ClubWin Charter Member (6) - MCPS Windows 95/Netowrking

28 years, 8 months

Classic Video Games

by zmerch＠northernway.net

Whilst in a self-induced trance, thedm (and others) happened to blather: >Sounds like Mattel Electronic Football. My friends and I were the reason >they stopped letting us take to school! damn...that was ages ago. [big snip] Coleco was mentioned... My brother had a Coleco back in the Jr / H.S. daze... which was pretty eazy to win. From what I remember, the LED's could be controlled with two brightness levels, the brighter ones were you, and the dimmer ones were the badguys. I stumbled across it about a year ago or so, while moving... Not sure if my brother or I ended up with it (---Still unpacking--- :-( ) but it still worked at last check. This is one of those things that I took apart as well... but it actually got back together and still worked! ;-) Trivia: On the Coleco, there was a 6-tone "good sound" -- touchdown, methinks. It went something like this (bad replica of staff to follow :) --------o-----o-- ----------------- -----o-----o----- ---o------------- -o--------------- Anyway, there was an episode of Hart to Hart (Robert Wagner & Stephanie Powers... remember?) that used those sounds for automatic door openers / security system at a millionaire/billionaires house... I remember hearing that, and saying so. No-one believed me until I went and got the game and started playing it... then the family was mad that I was making noise during the show! But at least I proved my point. ;^> Have fun, and get ready for my next post! See ya, Roger "Merch" Merchberger -- Roger Merchberger | If at first you don't succeed, Programmer, NorthernWay | nuclear warhead disarmament should *not* zmerch(a)northernway.net | be your first career choice.

28 years, 8 months

OOPS - Explorer 85 - Encyclopedia Entry

by danjo＠xnet.com

Well I forked it up! My ISP was working on an upgade and I was editing *someones* entry for the Explorer 85 on the Encyclopedia web page. Suddenly, when I saved it, Error - no free pace on device! So I thought Ok, I will just :q! OOPS it's gone! Now normally I save a copy for reference - pp back to pine - Error - OOps that's gone too! Who ever placed the page - huh - you want to email me the particulars and I will enter them??? BC

28 years, 8 months

What Classic Computer are All About - A Lovers View

by allisonp＠world.std.com

> From: Brett <danjo(a)xnet.com> > Well, that's true. I always wondered why DEC couldn't sell PDP-11's - b > then with that lousy chip set and poor software 8-) I still get pissed > thinking about how DEC Marketing has messed up every attempt to get int > the *home* market! You're pissed! I lost my job with them because they couldn't make money >from a dimond mine! > You mean the the 7440 I have on the desk next to me? Never remembered the model number but likely, yes! > Not if you tell people about it! Drat you caught me. > You must have been - what - 8 years old 8-) Great story! I think we al I wish, I'm old enough. I finished college before the 8080 was introduced. > have one of those - where everybody kinda stares at you - wondering - > What the Hell is THAT? What are you doing with that - THING? Never happend to me. ;-) I get you have those, in there, and they all work? Allison

28 years, 8 months

History of Video Games (RE: "Bally Astrocade")

by sinasohn＠crl.com

At 11:58 AM 7/11/97 -0600, you wrote: >>playing a vector graphic arcade version of Space War when we were fresh >five buttons, 'rotate left', 'rotate right', 'thrust', 'fire', >'hyperspace'. The interesting thing was you didn't play against the Perhaps you're thinking of a later game wherein you could have two players at the same time with either separate ships, or linked ships. Sorta like asteroids in that you had to avoid/shoot various things on the screen. It had the rotate left/right buttons. There was another that used a rotating knob to control rotation; the story was it was a combat training simulation, but I can't remember the name. That was a fun one. (But I always was, and always will be, a Robotron man...) --------------------------------------------------------------------- O- Uncle Roger "There is pleasure pure in being mad sinasohn(a)crl.com that none but madmen know." Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates San Francisco, California http://www.crl.com/~sinasohn/

28 years, 8 months

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