On Fri, 18 Jul 1997 10:09:19 -0500 (CDT) starling(a)umr.edu wrote:
>>Would this be for proffit or non-proffit purposes?
Well, if we have to pay real $ for the info, we should try to make a
reasonable return. I'm not really considering remanufacturing anything in any
quantities, but just in case we need to, we can.
>>I could see purchasing the rights to the C=64 and setting them free as
public domain. Perhaps raise the money to do it by selling "shares" of
ownership in the rights to C= enthusiasts. That way, emulators can use
original C= ROM code without copyright infringement, and "Build Your Own
Commie 64" kits could be a possibility. Since the rights would be
purchased by the computing community, they'd belong to the computing
community.<<
I don't necessarily have a problem with this. If this ever comes to pass (a
slim chance at best), we can make provisions for emulator licenses.
>>I don't see much of a point to owning the rights to such things in a
for-proffit mode. Except maybe just bragging rights...<<
Mmmmm. What's wrong with a little bragging?? <g>
>>"Hey, baby... I own the exclusive rights to manufacture the Commodore
Plus 4. Want to go back to my place for a drink?"<<
;-) Sounds like Austin Powers!
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Rich Cini/WUGNET
- ClubWin Charter Member (6)
- MCPS Windows 95/Networking
i enjoy reading what others have acquired over the weekends so i thought i
might add mine also.
there was a hamfest saturday morning so i went and picked up a 30meg rll
drive; a copy ][ pc option board which seems to copy just about anything. is
that correct? the laugh of the day was some guy selling an apple ][+ with two
drives, joystick and box of software for $300 <!> i think i had met this
guy before at a previous hamfest; claiming to have known steve wozniak
personally and did blue boxing with the steves! yea, right! i think that's
the same ][+ he was trying to sell then. i also picked up something called a
mattel aquarius for $10. the box was still sealed up, even the staples were
intact! i havent used it yet. any opinions on the copy option board or the
aquarius would be welcome.
david
At 11:51 PM 7/19/97 +0000, you wrote:
>A while back I picked up a TRS-80 Model 3 without disk drives. It
>works fine and I've been on the prowl for drives for it. Well, the
>other day while picking up some PDP-8 stuff (questions for another
>time), the guy gave me 2 Model 3s with drives. I've cleaned them up
>and checked them out and finally powered them on. Now this is the
>problem. They come on and the lower drive (drive 0?) lights up and
>then stops and the screen stays blank. I don't have a DOS for them
>so my question is, should these boot up without it as my cassette
>based 3 does, giving me the Cassette? and RAM? questions or do I have
>to get TRSDOS or one of the others. If these systems are bad, I'm
>thinking of moving the drives to my cassette system. Looks like a
>lot of boards to move, assuming the drives and controller are ok.
>Comments? Also, can someone help out with a copy of TRSDOS, NewDOS,
>LDOS or some other and a comm program?
>
>Thanks.
>
>-----
>David Williams - Computer Packrat
>dlw(a)neosoft.com
>http://www.neosoft.com/~dlw
>
>
CORRECTION..... Apparently I engaged my keyboard before my brain was in gear!
When I turn on my Model 4 without a disk installed I get "DISKETTE?"
on the screen. Sorry about that.
At 11:51 PM 7/19/97 +0000, you wrote:
>A while back I picked up a TRS-80 Model 3 without disk drives. It
>works fine and I've been on the prowl for drives for it. Well, the
>other day while picking up some PDP-8 stuff (questions for another
>time), the guy gave me 2 Model 3s with drives. I've cleaned them up
>and checked them out and finally powered them on. Now this is the
>problem. They come on and the lower drive (drive 0?) lights up and
>then stops and the screen stays blank. I don't have a DOS for them
>so my question is, should these boot up without it as my cassette
>based 3 does, giving me the Cassette? and RAM? questions or do I have
>to get TRSDOS or one of the others. If these systems are bad, I'm
>thinking of moving the drives to my cassette system. Looks like a
>lot of boards to move, assuming the drives and controller are ok.
>Comments? Also, can someone help out with a copy of TRSDOS, NewDOS,
>LDOS or some other and a comm program?
>
>Thanks.
>
>-----
>David Williams - Computer Packrat
>dlw(a)neosoft.com
>http://www.neosoft.com/~dlw
>
>
When I turned on my Model 4 with no disks I got "CASSETTE?"
on the screen. The lower drive light stays on. Have you checked to see if
brightness is turned up on the monitor?
Cheers
Charlie Fox
Message text written by INTERNET:classiccmp@u.washington.edu
>Does anyone know if Atari is still around? I remember years ago (really
not TOO long ago) I wrote to them and they sent me a pretty huge list of
old Atari 2600, etc., games still available, as well as old Atari 400/800
software they still had around. Does anyone know if there are still Atari
disutibutors that do this?<
Atari was purchased by someone else and dissolved as an independent
company.
No clue if the successors have any inventory, but I suspect I know where
their leftover cartridges went. An outfit called O'Shea, Ltd. has one
million, three hundred thousand atari video game cartridges (!), and is
selling them for 80 cents apiece. They claim they have 50 different
titles, but I only see about 40 listed; pretty evenly divided between 7800
series cartridges and 2600 cartridges.
These people seem to sell mostly in bulk (most of their different items are
available only by the case), but there's no such notation with respect to
the Atari cartridges. I've never done business with them, and I frankly
don't know what they'd do if you asked for (say) one copy each of ten
different titles. But might be worth a try if you want to round out your
Atari cartridge collection.
One the internet, they're at http://www.oshealtd.com/
E-mail is billh(a)oshealtd.com
Phone is 816-531-1177
Address is on West 47th Street in Kansas City.
and I'm at
Gil Parrish
107765.1161(a)compuserve.com
My friend's apple /// has the same problem. i had to have a chip replaced
several times. now it broke again but it's been so long that no tech will
touch it.
dave
On Fri, 18 Jul 1997 01:56:33 Mr. Self Destruct <more(a)camlaw.rutgers.edu>
wrote:
>>Me too! On a sidenote, I once saw an ad for some old shares (worthless of
>>course) in Commodore (for people to hang on their wall, etc.)
If you come across this ad again, I'd be interested.
Also, to those who have expressed a passing interest in the remote idea of
acquiring any leftover Commodore intangible assets {assuming that (1) we can
find out who has them and (2) they want only peanuts for them}, I'll be
contacting my attorney today to have him get an update from the US Bankruptcy
Court. Maybe we can trace what happened after ESCOM went bankrupt last July.
My idea would be to acquire the rights to the source code for the ROMs, the
schematics for their machines, IC masks for any custom chips, PC board
artwork, engineering diagrams, manuals, and service/technical information.
That's it. I don't want any inventory (which by now, I'm sure, has been
dumped) or tooling. I'm up in the air about trademarks, though (I know that
"Commodore" is gone, but the others like VIC, C-64, and PET may still be
available).
As far as any licenses that Commodore may have had (for games written by
third-parties and sold under the Commodore name, for example), I don't
necessarily care. Commodore's machines were developed in-house with MOS/CSG
parts, so they were owned by the same company ultimately. At worst, we'd need
the IC masks for any custom chips (VIC, VIC-II, SID).
Sounds like the beginnings of a business case...
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Rich Cini/WUGNET
- ClubWin Charter Member (6)
- MCPS Windows 95/Networking
Would anyone have any ideas as to what might be causing a problem
with my Apple ///...it does the following:
1) the only disks it will boot are the disks for the Apple ][+ emulation,
the CP/M 2.2 diskette for the Softcard ///, and the 'Apple /// Dealer
Diagnostic' diskette. All other diskettes give a blank screen, though I
have two full sets of the Apple /// systems disks.
2) The diagnostic diskette keeps reporting a RAM Map failure when I try to
run a RAM test, on either the 5V or 12V settings, and it then asks me for
the amount of RAM in the machine. No matter which choice I've given, it
just goes back to the same error. As far as I know, it is a 128k machine
with the RAM daughtercard below the keyboard. The amount of RAM was gotten
>from the factory sticker next to the PSU on the bottom of the machine.
3) Of the diskettes that will boot, once booted, the machine runs fine,
including being able to boot Apple ][ DOS 3.3 and being able to run Wordstar
under CP/M 2.2.
Any help someone can provide as to trouble shooting this would be
greatly appreciated since my experience with Apple machines is quite
limited. The machine has a Monitor ///, Disk II for the Apple ///, Softcard
///, and a Silentype printer. It would appear that Apple at least did some
kind of work on the machine at one point as it has an extended warranty
sticker on the bottom from Apple, with the additional 1 year ending on
08/06/83. Thanks.
Jeff jeffh(a)unix.aardvarkol.com
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Amiga enthusiast and collector of early, classic microcomputers
http://www.geocities.com/siliconvalley/lakes/6757
Spring having arrived here in the wilds of Canada, I moved some
stuff and got close enough to that thing I was given last fall to read the
labels on it. The box is a little bigger than a legal two drawer filing
cabinet, and weighs a couple of hundred pounds. There are three tags with
"M.A.I. Basic 4 Information Systems, each with a different model number...
#9152 upgrade, # 610, and #1321. There is also a tag saying that in event of
power failure the batteries are good for four hours!
The cabinet contains a backplane and several plug-in boards.
Does annyone have any idea of what this is?
Cheers
Charlie Fox
At 11:22 AM 7/19/97 -0800, you wrote:
>> Spring having arrived here in the wilds of Canada, I moved some
>> stuff and got close enough to that thing I was given last fall to read the
>> labels on it. The box is a little bigger than a legal two drawer filing
>> cabinet, and weighs a couple of hundred pounds. There are three tags with
>> "M.A.I. Basic 4 Information Systems, each with a different model number...
>> #9152 upgrade, # 610, and #1321. There is also a tag saying that in event of
>> power failure the batteries are good for four hours!
>> The cabinet contains a backplane and several plug-in boards.
>> Does annyone have any idea of what this is?
>
>It sounds like you've got the main hunk of a Basic 4 system there.
>These are minicomputers that were sold with special-purpose software
>- accounting, doctor's office, etc. - for small business environments.
>
>Is it possible that there's a hard drive (likely 8" or 10.5") somewhere
>in the box? Any tape drive? How many DB-25's on the back for terminals?
>
>Tim.
>
>
There are 16 db-25's on the back, also two drives about the same
size as the computer, the only one with a manufacturers label is Century
Data Systems, Model T-80A.
It came from a municipal office. When the fellow said he had got a
new computer and asked if I wanted the old one, I thought he meant something
like an XT! Next time I will ask. There was also a Calcomp 1041 plotter,
which runs the test plot, but so far refuses to talk to my 386.
Cheers
Charlie Fox
> When I first got onto the net, the first thing I found out was that it is
> most useful for e-mail.
That's about all I use it for, except looking for people who sell oddball
parts.
I tried IRC, I tried Usenet,
Usenet I use, for classified ads.
I tried a couple
> other things, and eventually I found myself paying $19.95 a month for
> e-mail.
btw, My ISP will sell time (so many hours) which will carry over from month
to month. $30 will buy 30 hours, which lasts a *long* time with an offline
e-mail reader. Some charge, say $7/month for e-mail only. Ask.
> But all in all I find the Internet to be EXTREMELY valuable. Where else
> can I go to find 200 zealots who collect classic computers to get
> information about a particularly obscure piece of hardware and get an
> answer to my questions usually within 24 hours?
>
I can e-mail a diatribe to the President of the United States of America.
...and get put on the FBI's secret list.
> Basically, it is truly information at your fingertips (almost) instantly.
> Constantly updated, constantly growing, alive.
Sure. For me, too. But how many newbies want -- or need -- all that info,
or want to acquire the necessary skills?
I think, after visiting the Lego page, nakedgirls.com and looking at
trucks, many users cast the internet aside with the rest of their toys (and
that was my point). Businesses, however -- such as mine -- find a real use
for the communications / information.
Most of my customers are interested in solitaire, Internet and
scanners...and you know? I may be wrong, but I see a *lot* of people trying
the interned for a couple of months, then letting the subscription lapse.
We have millions of potential newbies to work through, but what's it gonna
be like in 10 years? How many dust-covered chess-playing machines do you
see around? Electronic keyboards? Cuisinarts? I think we're seeing a fad.
Killer app? There hasn't been one since multimedia stuff for IBM I mean..)
You're right -- we've been refining (and good refinements the've been, some
of them! -- I'll take Corel 7 over DOS MS Paint any day).
Next killer app? Dunno. Voice recognition?
At 08:54 PM 7/18/97 -0500, you wrote:
>I recently picked up an Atari 400 computer... and have the version of
>Sega's Frogger for it. It's on cassette tape, and I am having some
>problems loading it. I know some loading commands from a quick look at the
>manual, but am still not able to get the tape loaded. I eventually get
>errors using three different load types: CLOAD, ENTER "C:", and LOAD "C:"
>-- I think these are the three common types of loading procedures. I am
>sure this tape is machine language, and am wondering if there are some
Cord,
Take the Basic cartridge out, and hold the Start button down when
turning the machine on. This will give the beep to hit play on the cassette
player, then hit enter and it will load. This is how you load a machine
language program on the atari from cassette. Hope this helps.
Isaac Davis | Don't throw away that old computer, check out the
idavis(a)comland.com | Classic Computer Rescue List
indavis(a)juno.com | http://www.comland.com/~idavis/classic/classic.html
On Thu, 17 Jul 1997 21:35:17 GMT ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk (Tony Duell) wrote:
>>Have you tried Tandy/Radio Shack National Parts? At one time they sold
service
>>manuals for all their computer stuff, and such manuals almost always
contained
>>schematics/data on the 'bought-in' parts -- things like PSUs, drives,
monitors,
>>
They still have lots of parts/info. Last week, I ordered the service manual
for the Tandy Model 1 Expansion Interface. In 3 days, I got the *original*
manual, not a copy of one that was used in a R/S repair center. In the past,
I've ordered system diskettes for my Model 100 from the National Parts
Software group (Tandy Software, I think, and a different telephone number,
too). So, it's clear that they are continuing to support these old machines.
Message text written by INTERNET:classiccmp@u.washington.edu
> The bulk of the information regarding the B-128 was 'loaned' to the
Chicago B-128 Users Group by Commodore (wow, that's a change, eh?) a few
years back, I have no idea what had ever happened to the group or where
the B-128 info now resides.<
Yes, that was quite a deal. The Chicago group seems to have showed up on
Commodore's doorstep just as Commodore was getting ready to trash all the B
series stuff, and the user group ended up with it all. I wasn't aware it
was a "loan", but I guess at this point, nobody is going to show up on
their doorstep and ask for it back. If only the rest of the Commodore user
group community had showed such drive; we might not KNOW where the rights
to the 8-bit stuff ended up, but also we might collectively have owned
them!
I don't know what happened to the group either. In 1990, before I got a
B-128, I wrote and got info, and directed to them everyone I ran across
that had a B-series question. Then I wrote in early 1993 to check in on
the progress of the group for a newsletter article, and got nothing-- no
returned letter, no response. I wrote a second letter a few months later
(in case the Chicago post office had lost the first) and still got nothing.
I tried again after I got my B-128, and again, nothing. I think basically
the "group" was one guy in Chicago and a number of out of town members,
domestically and internationally. I suspect as interest in the B series
waned, the guy got tired of it and just quit. Still, upon receiving
inquiries he might at least have sent out
thanks-for-your-letter-but-the-group-doesn't-exist-any-more responses.
Postage couldn't have been THAT much. Course, he may have gotten hit by a
beer truck, for all I know. (Address was 4102 N. Odell, Norridge, IL.
60635; I probably have the head guy's name somewhere.)
Gil Parrish
107765.1161(a)compuserve.com
At 12:48 PM 7/18/97 -0500, Cord Coslor wrote:
>Does anyone know if Atari is still around? I remember years ago (really
>not TOO long ago) I wrote to them and they sent me a pretty huge list of
>old Atari 2600, etc., games still available, as well as old Atari 400/800
>software they still had around. Does anyone know if there are still Atari
>disutibutors that do this?
>
>Thanks,
>
>CORD
>
There are a number of businesses still selling atari stuff. As far as the
company is concerned, only the coin-op still remains under the Atari name.
Check out www.myatari.com or email Rick Detlefsen
(74766.1561(a)CompuServe.COM). They both have a pretty good selection, and I
know Rick is pretty cheap. I work about 5 mins from his place, and it makes
a wonderful lunch to go over there and browse through all of his stuff, and
pick up goodies. The atari vendor and developer faq is at
http://www.faqs.org/faqs/atari-8-bit/vendev/ If you can't get to it, I
might be able to round up a copy and email it. Hope this helps.
Isaac Davis | Don't throw out that old computer,
idavis(a)comland.com | check out the Classic Computer Rescue List -
indavis(a)juno.com | http://www.comland.com/~idavis/classic/classic.html
Message text written by INTERNET:classiccmp@u.washington.edu
>I have the low-profile version of the machine, with no monitor or drives.
I
plan on getting the 8050 drives today at noon, if they're still there.
There was also an IEEE-488 printer to go with it.<
That's what it sounded like; this seems to be the most common machine in
the P/B line, at least in the U.S. It's the same as what I have.
>[[ BTW, I'm still on the fence as to whether I'll keep this one or not...
It seems rather unique, which I like, but I'm not sure if I'd actually use
it, which is something I like to do as well... ]]<
"Using it" is somewhat problematic. While there is a fair chunk of
software out there for the PET/CBM line, a lot of that won't run on the B
series, at least without modification. As a "for instance", the typical
way to find out how much memory you have on a Commodore machine is the
check FRE(0). The "0" is a dummy variable on most C= units-- checking
FRE(0) will give you the same answer as FRE(1) or FRE(10), etc.-- but "0"
is the one typically used. However, on the B series, the variable makes a
difference; since it is bank-switched, the different variables let you
check different banks. As I recall, a PRINT FRE(0) command on a B-128
yields-- 0. So any software that checks for free memory-- and a lot of
PET/CBM software did, since there were 8K machines, 16 K machines and 32K
machines-- asks a B-128 that question, gets "0" in response, and crashes.
I note the TPUG newsletter seems to indicate the group has some B-128
software, so you could try that route if you wanted. Or, trade the unit
off, since it sounds like other folks might be interested.
>Anyway, again -- I love this list! :-)<
I'm finding it interesting too, at least when it covers the home 8-bits
(which I know something about) and not mini-mainframes (which mean nothing
to me personally).
>-- and thanks one and all for the
help you've given me for the help on this little beastie!<
Hopefully, that's what we're here for!
>I'll let y'all know if the 8050 was still there.<
If you want to trade it off, you might not want the drives. Those 8050 and
4040 units are VERY heavy, and a true Commodore enthusiast may already have
a compatible drive with his PET/CBM equipment. And there ARE other CBM
drives that will work; you might run across them elsewhere. (Actually, one
of the nicest drives to own is a third party dual drive called an MSD-SD2.
It is a smaller and quite rugged drive, which uses the 4040/1541 format.
It has both an IEEE port and a Commodore serial port, so it will work with
virtually any C= unit ever made (not counting Amiga and PC-clones).
Further, another party came up with a "mass duplicator rom" for it, that
allows quick copying from one drive to the other. In fact, it will copy a
standard Commodore disk in 15 seconds, or 22 seconds for copy with verify--
and it doesn't even have to be hooked to a computer to do so!)
Gil Parrish
107765.1161(a)compuserve.com
Yes there are still distributors around! I will put a list together.
Atari merged with JTS, a make of PC hardrives, owned by the person who
used to put out Tandem harddrives. Atari is now known as ATARI
INTERACTIVE, a maker of game software for all platforms!
Mike
----------
From: Cord Coslor
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
Subject: Atari still around?
Date: Friday, July 18, 1997 1:48PM
Does anyone know if Atari is still around? I remember years ago (really
not TOO long ago) I wrote to them and they sent me a pretty huge list of
old Atari 2600, etc., games still available, as well as old Atari
400/800
software they still had around. Does anyone know if there are still
Atari
disutibutors that do this?
Thanks,
CORD
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In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.systems, nospam(a)see.below.for.real.email
(Vacler) wrote:
>All this stuff is used unless otherwise noted. I have noted all problems
>that I am aware of, but I haven't turned on a lot of this stuff in a
>while. So everything is being sold as is. All prices are negotiable(so
>make an offer), and don't include shipping. Items marked "---" are
>included with the above item, and items marked "T.O." are ones that I'd
>rather trade, but if you really want something marked "T.O." make an
>offer. I prefer trades to sales. A list of things I'm looking for is at
>the bottom. My real email address's are also at the bottom. Feel free to
>ask questions.
>---------------------------------------
>FOR SALE / TRADE
>---------------------------------------
>APPLE
>---------------------------------------
>Hardware:
>Apple IIe Platinum $60
>Apple IIe Platinum(bad motherboard) $20
>Apple II+ $30
>Beltron(Apple II clone) $30
>Bell & Howell Apple II(Darth Vader) $60
>Laser 128EX T.O.
>Apple II Mouse ---
>Laser Power Supply ---
>Laser Manuel ---
>Apple IIgs(rom 3) T.O.
>Apple IIgs Mouse ---
>Apple IIgs Keyboard ---
>Apple Lisa II w/keyboard(bad power supply) $170
>Macintosh 512K $50
>Mac 128/512 Plus Mouse ---
>Macintosh Plus(4meg ram) T.O.
>Mac 128/512 Plus Mouse ---
>Mac 128/512 Plus keyboard ---
>Macintosh Plus(4meg ram) T.O.
>Mac 128/512 Plus Mouse ---
>Mac 128/512 Plus keyboard ---
>Macintosh Portable w/carry case T.O.
>Macintosh SE(bad analog board) $40
>Apple II Joy Stick $10
>Apple ImageWriter I Printer $45
>Apple ImageWriter II Printer $60
>Apple Monochrome Monitor $30
>Apple II 51/4 disk drive $20
>Apple II 51/4 disk drive $20
>Apple II 31/2 disk drive $30
>Apple II 31/2 disk drive $30
>Mac 128/512 Plus 31/2 Disk Drive $30
>SSB-Apple Voice Synthesis Board $20
>Several unknown Apple II cards $15
>Software:
>Apple II Calmpute Biofeedback Stress Reduction Program (NEW) $6
>Apple II Calmpute Biofeedback Stress Reduction Program (NEW) $6
>Apple II Calmpute Biofeedback Stress Reduction Program $5
>---------------------------------------
>ATARI
>---------------------------------------
>Hardware:
>Atari Video Pinball model C-380 $25
>Atari Video Computer System 2600 black w/fake wood trim $25
>Atari Joy Stick X2 $10
>Atari Game Paddles X2 $10
>Software:
>Atari Space Invaders $5
>Atari Star Raiders $5
>Atari Warlords $5
>Atari Donkey Kong $5
>Atari ET $5
>Atari Street Racer $5
>Atari Qbert $5
>Atari Sea Quest $5
>Atari Breakout $5
>Atari Cosmic Ark $5
>Atari Raiders of the Lost Ark $5
>Atari Pac Man $5
>Atari Football $5
>Atari Telegames $5
>Atari Brain Games $5
>Atari Donkey Kong $5
>Atari Bridge $5
>Atari Qbert $5
>---------------------------------------
>COMMODORE
>---------------------------------------
>Hardware:
>Commodore SuperPET SP9000 T.O.
>Commodore Plus/4 in original box w/power supply and manual $40
>Commodore 64 (for parts) $15
>Commodore 64 (for parts) $15
>Commodore 64C w/power supply $35
>Commodore SX64 T.O.
>Commodore 128 w/power supply T.O.
>Commodore VIC-20 w/power supply
>T.O.
>VIC-1541 Disk Drive $20
>C64 1541 Disk Drive $20
>Commodore 1571 Disk Drive $30
>Commodore 1571 Disk Drive $30
>Amiga 31/2 Disk Drive $35
>Amiga 1000 (w/signatures in case) T.O.
>Amiga Keyboard ---
>Amiga Mouse ---
>Amiga 31/2 Disk Drive $35
>Amiga Pin $5
>C64 Modem $10
>C64 HesModem II $15
>C64 Joy Stick $15
>Commodore 1701 Monitor $35
>Commodore Cassette player $10
>Commodore MPS 803 Printer $30
>VIC-20 ram cartridge $10
>Software:
>C64 Business Systems $5
>C128 Swift Calc $5
>C128 Word Writer $5
>C128 Data Management $5
>C64 Omniwriter & Omnispell (NEW) $7
>C64 Project Space Station (NEW) $7
>C64 Project Space Station $7
>C64 Graphics Basic (NEW) $7
>C64 Graphics Basic (NEW) $7
>C128 Ghost Writer $5
>C64 Forth $5
>C64 Rootin Tootin $5
>C64 Rootin Tootin $5
>C64 Rootin Tootin $5
>C64 Rootin Tootin $5
>---------------------------------------
>Tandy / Radio Shack
>---------------------------------------
>Hardware:
>TRS-80 I w/monitor and printer $45
>TRS-80 Color Computer I T.O.
>TRS-80 Color Computer II $20
>TRS-80 Joystick $10
>Software:
>TRS-80 Color Script $5
>TRS-80 Color Baseball $5
>TRS-80 Pooyan $5
>TRS-80 Mega-Bug $5
>TRS-80 Dungeons of Daggorath $5
>---------------------------------------
>Other
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>Hardware:
>Texas Instruments TI-99/4A CPU(Silver & Black) $20
>Super Nintendo System w/2 controllers $40
>Sega Genesis w/3 controllers $40
>Kaypro I $35
>Kaypro II $45
>Software:
>Genesis Shining Force $15
>Genesis Shining in the Darkness $10
>Genesis Game Genie $10
>SNES Secret of Mana $17
>SNES Secret of Evermore $17
>SNES Game Genie $10
>SNES Super Mario World $10
>SNES Mario All Stars $15
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>WANTED
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>Hardware:
>IBM 5100
>TRS-80 Model 100
>Acorn Archimedes 3xx-4xx
>Atari 520STm or 520STfm
>Apple Macintosh 128k
>VGA Monitor
>Mac IIfx Memory
>External Macintosh CD-Rom Drive
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>Loren Everly
>everly(a)interpac.net
>vacler(a)hotmail.com
>http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Vista/7533/
>---------------------------------------
On Thu, 17 Jul 1997, Les wrote:
>>Last I checked/remembered, ESCOM held the rights to the Commodore name and
>>to many of their patents/literature/etc. They are at
>>http://www.commodore.net. Lately, Gateway purchased all the Amiga stuff
>>and if I remember correctly started licensing clone makers.
True, ESCOM, AG owned all of the rights to the Commodore name, intellectual
property, etc., but it mid-96, filed for the German equivalent of bankruptcy
(receivership, I think). This put the Commodore assets in play again. GW2K
bought the Amiga stuff, but the other stuff is still in limbo (I think).
In January, with advice of counsel, I made two attempts to contact
Commodore's US bankruptcy counsel (Commodore had manufacturing operations in
West Chester and Norristown, PA) to inquire about purchasing Commodore's
remaining intellectual property (i.e., the rights to the schematics,
technology, source code, etc.). I never got a response from them. Anyone
interested in buying Commodore assets??
I only have several VICs, a 64, and a lonely PET. I'm in need of "rounding
out" my CBM collection. So many models, so little time...
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Rich Cini/WUGNET
- ClubWin Charter Member (6)
- MCPS Windows 95/Networking
The B-128 did come in a few models, they have been defined by case
design (low profile and high profile) some models came with integrated
monitors (looked like really advanced PETs, especially with the detached
keyboard).
The bulk of the information regarding the B-128 was 'loaned' to the
Chicago B-128 Users Group by Commodore (wow, that's a change, eh?) a few
years back, I have no idea what had ever happened to the group or where
the B-128 info now resides.
When Amiga Technologies was sold by ESCOM, ESCOM kept the Commodore
trademark and name, as the remaining profitable division was the IBM
clone division which used the Commodore name and logo to enhance their
image (Commodore is a 'good thing' in parts of europe.) It is still
under debate exactly where the technology for the 8-bits have ended up,
some say ESCOM, some say partly Amiga Technologies... Dunno.
Get the 8050 drive, Commodore IEEE-488 dual drives drives were very
expansive and are not as abundant as the later serial models. If you
need a cable for it (computer to IEEE-488 device or IEEE-488 to
IEEE-488), E-mail me, I currently have a source for a few...
Larry Anderson
P.S. I started work on the PET FAQ, I outlined it and I have quite a bit
of stuff to write!
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