You've done well Luke Skywalker.
This is an effective announcement and good use of the web for current list
of speakers.
What about newsgroups? Who is sending this announcement to them and which ones?
How about funding? What do you think?
You're doing a good overall job. All good things start small. No matter who
or how many attend, you will be able to say you did it. Mind you, the bills
must be paid.
Please let me tell you a short story. I thought we had a great idea for a
fund-raiser for the COMMPUTERSEUM. We would hold a public viewing of
Triumphs of the Nerds complete with door prizes and lots'o fun (picture
this: the ticket numbers were printed in binary, octal, and hex yet the door
prize numbers were called out in decimal, so to win you first had to
convert!). We called it Nerd Night, got lots'o publicity, a nice theater on
campus at the University of Waterloo (perhaps you've heard of it by its
nickname - Microsoft U.). Everyone said what a great idea, ha, ha Nerd Night
in a city of nerds - we called it a Nerdly Celebration, PBS gave us a free
copy of Triumph and permission to use it to raise funds. Everything pointed
towards success...little did we know...At the appointed time the theater was
empty soon three people showed up.
Gee wiz, $30 in receipts. Oh well more will come, we thught, so we started
the film. Suddenly it occured to me; if we show the film thereby renting the
theater and no one else comes we'll lose money. So in the dark I stoped the
VCR and when the lights came on explained the situation to the audience and
offered to let them borrow the tapes and return their money. Everyone
understood and agreed, two borrowed the tapes, all three left their money
with the COMMPUTERSEUM. A failure? Perhaps, but we learned and probably all
sorts of people think a Nerd Night was held in Waterloo, Ontario., well hey,
it did. It's on record.
Take care ace
Kevin
>
>
> Announcing the First Annual Vintage Computer Festival!
> ------------------------------------------------------
>
>Mark your calendars! The first ever public celebration of vintage
>computers will take place at the Alameda County Fairgrounds in Pleasanton,
>California this October 25th and 26th.
>
>The Vintage Computer Festival (VCF) is the first event of its kind
>anywhere in the world. This two day festival will feature presentations
>and workshops by notable computer industry figures and vintage computer
>hobbyists. There will also be an on-site, hands-on vintage computer
>exhibition. Experiment with the classic computers of yesteryear!
>
>Each year a computer from the past is placed in the Vintage Computer
>Spotlight. This year we focus on the Apple ][. To celebrate the 20th
>anniversary of this classic, we will be giving away an original Apple ][
>personal computer! Each person who attends the VCF is automatically
>entered into the drawing!
>
>Both seasoned and new computer collectors will enjoy workshops and
>panels to share ideas and learn about finding, acquiring, restoring,
>and enjoying vintage computers.
>
>The VCF also features the Vintage Computer Flea Market. Find those old
>computers, peripherals, manuals, and programs you've been looking for!
>The flea market is the ideal way for new comers to the field to start
>their own collection or for seasoned collectors to add to their existing
>stash.
>
>Celebrate the good old days of computing! Attend the First Annual Vintage
>Computer Festival!!!
>
>
> When: October 25-26th, 9:00AM - 5:00PM daily
>
> Where: Alameda County Fairgrounds, Pleasanton, California
>
>Admission: Pre-registered ($SAVE$)
>
> Individual: $15
> Family: $24 (two adults and four children)
>
> Benefits of pre-registration include:
>
> o Access to speakers, workshops, flea market and
> exhibition
> o Pre-paid parking
>
> To pre-register, send a check or money order to:
>
> Vintage Computer Festival
> 4275-29 Rosewood Drive #161
> Pleasanton, California 94588
>
> Please make checks payable to "Vintage Computer Festival"
>
>
> At-the-door
>
> o Speakers, Workshops, Flea Market and Exhibition
>
> Individual: $10.00
> Family: $16.00
>
> o Flea Market and Exhibition only
>
> Individual: $5.00
> Family: $10.00
>
> Please note: "At-the-door" rate is for a one day pass
> only and does not include parking.
>
>
>For more information including the latest list of speakers and workshops
>please check out:
>
> http://www.siconic.com/vcf
>
>or send e-mail to:
>
> mailto:vcf@siconic.com
>
>
> SEE YOU AT THE VINTAGE COMPUTER FESTIVAL!!!
>
>
>Sam Alternate e-mail: dastar(a)siconic.com
>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>Computer Historian, Programmer, Musician, Philosopher, Athlete, Writer, Jackass
>
>
>
Hello Everyone,
Allison Parent has taken over custody of the Intellivision stuff..
Will
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I finally got the '44 to it's (so far) permanent location, and I'm trying
to get it all back together, minus the rack (Looking for someplace to put
it, it's too bug to get up 8 floors!). I may try anyway...
The problem is, I have to get everything in ONE ba11 (Due to lack of
power). So, I have no massbus stuff, and I only need 16 com ports for
now, so I got 2 DZ11s, the processor, the UDA50, and 1.75MB of RAM into
the processor box. My test was to fire it all up, and do "b du0" and
UDA50 would wait forever for the RA81 to answer. The RA is still down in
my car (I get to unload it myslef - oh boy!) and I can't bring it up yet.
Anyway, everything powers up, but when I try to get it to boot, I get to
wait about 5 seconds, then I get
$20 MPC=15
(I think the $ may have been something else)
This (According to the manual) means "the processor started a transfer,
but it timed out". Do I have to play with the backplane to get the new
config to work?
I have NPG cards in everything that's empty.
The UDA50 strobes like it's supposed to...
The bus is laid out like this:
+-----+----+---------+
| | | PRCSSR |
| RH11| DZ | |
|MBUS | | |
+-----+----+---------+
That's then way it WAS. The UDA50 is where the DZ was, the DZ moved to
the RH11 area, because when the UDA50 was there, it said the CPU was
halted. (All the lights were on)
I have an M950 joining the CPU to the UDA, and an M9500 (I think) joining
the UDA to the DZs. And the bus IS terminated! I also have NPG plugs
on the M950 and M9500.
Also: There appears to be a Road Runner (Real, not the animated one)
etched on the the 2nd UDA50 card, bu the name. Anyone know anything about
that?
Hello, all:
How do I determine the drive geometry for a DEC drive? If you've been
following my uVAX thread, I need to reformat my external RD52 drive. I've
looked in my various PC references and can't find a Quantum drive with a
similar capacity.
TIA!
>========================================>
Rich Cini/WUGNET
<rcini(a)msn.com>
MCP Windows 95 and Windows Networking,
Charter ClubWin! Member (6) and a
collector of classic computers
The Obsolete Computer web site has some good tips on case repair and in the
FAQ section of classiccmp are some good tips.
At 08:26 PM 9/12/97 -0800, you wrote:
>Here is something new:
>
> I just read a newsgroup post about a (somewhat) poor soul who has
>gotten a PET 2001 with a rusty case looking for re-finishing/painting
>suggestions. I suggested he subscribe here and ask for help.
>
> Thinking about it this is a cool topic for discussion, has anyone
>re-painted their computer cases and what tips/suggestions do you have
>for us or what should we avoid (also got any good color schemes?). (I
>have a few 64s lying around that would look neat with a custom paint
>job, since they are plastic, what do you suggest?
>
> I remember a letter in one of the Commodore mags on how to remove and
>re-set the alphanumeric decals on a keyboard, maybe I sould spend half a
>day in the storage unit and find some of this stuff... :/
>
> Larry Anderson
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Received this last night. Three questions:
1). What's an Osborne Executive?
2). What's it worth?
3). Is anyone interested? If so, please contact the guy directly. This
one, personally, I'm not much interested in at the time.
Thanks!
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>Priority: Normal
>X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
>To: kyrrin2(a)wizards.net
>From: "pro" <pro(a)goes.com>
>Subject: For Sale
>Date: Thu, 11 Sep 97 11:01:39 PDT
>
>We have an Osborne Executive, excellent condition, complete with cables,
>manuals, and software. Make offer? Thanks.
>
>Paul R. Ogushwitz, Ph.D.
>PRO Scientific Consulting, 303 Center Street, Hackettstown, NJ 07840
>Phone 908-850-1636
>Email pro(a)goes.com
>
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Bruce Lane, Sysop, The Dragon's Cave BBS (Fidonet 1:343/272)
(Hamateur: WD6EOS) (E-mail: kyrrin2(a)wizards.net)
http://www.wizards.net/technoid
"Our science can only describe an object, event, or living thing in our own
human terms. It cannot, in any way, define any of them..."
Still waiting to hear what the code numbers 554 mean that I get on the
Powerstation 320 from IBM ?? As Isaid before it boots up to this number but
I get no video on the monitor it's a IBM 6091-19 that came with the 320.
Would like to get some documentation on this machine if anyone would like
trade or sell.
Thanks for your input on the problem and I will try the install as soon as I
get a copy of AIX. THANKS
At 05:53 PM 9/12/97 -0800, you wrote:
>>Still waiting to hear what the code numbers 554 mean that I get on the
>>Powerstation 320 from IBM ?? As Isaid before it boots up to this number but
>>I get no video on the monitor it's a IBM 6091-19 that came with the 320.
>>Would like to get some documentation on this machine if anyone would like
>>trade or sell.
>
>Hi,
>I was able to look this one up at work today. Basically it's complaining
>about one of two things. The first cause is that it can't boot off of the
>disk, the second is if it had been connected to a network, that it can't
>find NFS Swap space. My guess would be the second, after all how many
>people bother to wipe disks? No idea how to fix it, the best bet would be
>a clean install of AIX.
>
>BTW this is a RS/6000 machine.
>
> Zane
>
>
>| Zane H. Healy | UNIX Systems Adminstrator |
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>| healyzh(a)holonet.net (alternate) | Mac Programmer |
>+----------------------------------+---------------------------+
>| For Empire of the Petal Throne and Traveller Role Playing, |
>| and the collecting of Classic Computers with info on them. |
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>
>
>
>
Thanks for the follow-up answer and I will see if I can get a copy of AIX
>from some where.
At 07:02 PM 9/12/97 -0400, you wrote:
>> Still waiting to hear what the code numbers 554 mean that I get on the
>> Powerstation 320 from IBM ?? As Isaid before it boots up to this number but
>> I get no video on the monitor it's a IBM 6091-19 that came with the 320.
>> Would like to get some documentation on this machine if anyone would like
>> trade or sell.
>
>Version 1.3 of the "Diagnostics Programs: Operator Guide" does not list
>554 as an error code. 553 is Phase 1 of IPL completed, and 558 means there
>is not enough memort to complete the IPL.
>
>My guess is that 554 means that the IPL aborted for some reason, as if
>someone wiped out the disk. During the last half of the IPL, numbers
>between 700 and 999 should be seen.
>
>I assume that this 554 comes up after a few minutes of booting. Generally,
>all of the BIST (Built In Self Test) stuff occurs in the first minute or
>so (makes sense) and has codes in the 200 range. Note that half of the
>codes are not error messages, but just status.
>
>I would say the machine is most likely fine, but you may need to get
>another copy of AIX.
>
>William Donzelli
>william(a)ans.net
>
>
>
...coming out of his ears, darn near. If any of you have need of DEC cards
for MicroVAXen, I'd check with this guy.
Attachment follows.
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Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 23:30:04 -0400 (EDT)
From: Mzthompson(a)aol.com
To: kyrrin2(a)wizards.net
Subject: M7546 TK50 Controller
<personal message snipped>
In the event that you may have an intereset in some of the other cards I
have, I will paste a list to the end of this.
Regards,
Mike Thompson
--------------- --------------- --------------- ---------------
---------------
Part No : KA630-AA
Module No: M7606
Card Desc: CPU Module
Quantity : 6
--------------- --------------- --------------- ---------------
---------------
Part No : MS630-BB
Module No: M7608
Card Desc: 4 MB Memory Module
Quantity : 1
--------------- --------------- --------------- ---------------
---------------
Part No : MS630-CA
Module No: M7609
Card Desc: 8 MB Memory Module
Quantity : 11
--------------- --------------- --------------- ---------------
---------------
Part No : KDA50-Q
Module No: M7164 & M7165
Card Desc: SDI Disk Interface
Quantity : M7164 - 4, M7165 - 3
--------------- --------------- --------------- ---------------
---------------
Part No : DQ256
Module No:
Card Desc: SDI Interface
Quantity : 1
--------------- --------------- --------------- ---------------
---------------
Part No : TSV05
Module No: M7196
Card Desc: Tape ? Controller
Quantity : 1
--------------- --------------- --------------- ---------------
---------------
Part No : RQDX3
Module No: M7555
Card Desc: Disk Controller
Quantity : 1
--------------- --------------- --------------- ---------------
---------------
Part No : TQK70-SA
Module No: M7559
Card Desc: TK70 Tape Controller
Quantity : 1
--------------- --------------- --------------- ---------------
---------------
Part No : KLESI
Module No: M7740
Card Desc: TU81 Tape Controller
Quantity : 1
--------------- --------------- --------------- ---------------
---------------
Part No : DEQNA
Module No: M7504
Card Desc: Ethernet Interface
Quantity : 4
--------------- --------------- --------------- ---------------
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Part No : DELQA
Module No: M7516
Card Desc: Ethernet Interface
Quantity : 2
--------------- --------------- --------------- ---------------
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Part No : DELNA
Module No: M7513
Card Desc: Expander Module, connects external RD50 or RX50 to controller
Quantity : 3
--------------- --------------- --------------- ---------------
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Part No : TQK50
Module No: M7546
Card Desc: TK50 Tape Interface
Quantity : 5
--------------- --------------- --------------- ---------------
---------------
Part No : DZQ11
Module No: M3106
Card Desc: 4 Line Async Multiplexer (dual height card)
Quantity : 2
--------------- --------------- --------------- ---------------
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Part No : CXY08
Module No: M3119
Card Desc: 8 Chan Async Interface
Quantity : 1
Notes: 5400/5500, Have more, plus have 6 cable assemblies
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human terms. It cannot, in any way, define any of them..."
At 09:24 AM 07/09/97 -0400, you wrote:
> Because RedHat or Debian will have support for just about
>every hardware option he might ever need, has precompiled applications
>in a simple to use and install format (.rpm or .dep), and simple X
>based TK configuration utilities *somewhat* similar to Windows' control
>panel.
> Minux is pretty cool, and until Linux-Lite comes out, the only
>option for a free Unix like OS (that I know of) on the 8088/80286.
>But from what I saw, he has at least a 386. I've got a 386DX-20
>running Linux performing IP-Masquerading (in kernel IP translation -
>which minux most definitely *won't* do) and routing, name services for
>my internal network, a small web server for documentation (to other
>internal machines), and as a slow SCSI backup server to an old Exabyte
>(which was the free find of the century, I might add) and am perfectly
>happy with it's performance and utility. It's simple to install,
>simple to configure, and once it's done I can leave it up and running
>without concern. For example:
>
Granted that MINIX cannot compare to Linux when it comes to apps and
support, the reason I suggested it was because he wanted to install it on
386 portables. There are enough apps out there for MINIX for the basics, and
the list grows everyday. Also I was thinking of disk space, MINIX only
requires 30mb of space, so it would be ideal for portables...
As for being simple to install... well, since when did people like us who
collect classic machines worry about anything being simple ;)
----------------------------------------------------------------
______________________________________________Live from the GLRS
The Man From D.A.D
----------------------------------------------------------------
At 12:57 AM 07/09/97 -0800, you wrote:
>Couple of questions. How much does Minix cost now days? Last I looked it
>was ~$200 for the PC, although I'll admit this was back in '92 when it was
>a fairly good alternative to Linux (I remember when Linux didn't have a
>login prompt, you were dropped staight to single user). You can get a 6-CD
>Linux set for $25.
>
>Second, what major UNIX apps are there for Minix? Linux has basically all
>the freeware ones (when it comes to UNIX don't let the term freeware scare
>you away, it's often far better than commercial PC software).
Yikes! $200.00! I didn't think it was that much, I was under the
impression that it was in the range of $30.00-$40.00 dollars US. Of course,
I could be mistaken, maybe that is the price for i86 version...
I don't think there are many apps out there for MINIX (as compared to
LINUX) but from what I could see, the list is growing everyday. I think
MINIX would be great for a portable, unless of course the portable is the
only machine you have.
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At 08:39 AM 07/09/97 -0500, you wrote:
>20 of them just got trashed, but if you want a couple I'll be stopping in
>the shop later this week and if they have a new batch in I will pick you up
>a couple. We can settle up after I get them. They also have alot of SE's,
>512's, and sometimes the 128's. There is also a thrift store here that
>sells all computers for 80 cents including taxes. Everyone has started going
>here and it's getting harder to catch any good machines there. If anyone
>reading this is looking for HP stuff let me know as I passed on a complete
>HP3000 for $10.
Sounds good, any idea on how much shipping will be to St. John's,
Newfoundland, Canada?
I would be intersted in only one Mac Plus, as space is at a premium,
although if you could find a Tandy Model 100 for a comparble price there
(that 80 cents sounds really good) I would appreciate you picking one of
them up as well. Thanks in advance...
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______________________________________________Live from the GLRS
The Man From D.A.D
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I don't think it will "die a horrible death." I emailed them yesterday
when I first saw the newsgroup post and have heard back. I'll have to have
it shipped but I figure it's the price I'll just have to pay. :-) I've
been looking for one of these for years.
----------
> From: Hans Pufal <hans1(a)filan00.grenoble.hp.com>
> Date: Thursday, September 11, 1997 12:43 AM
>
> At risk of repeating someone elses post (I receive the digest form of
> the list):
>
> Recently seen on the net:
>
> > An HP 2100A minicomputer will become available soon, in Ann Arbor, MI.
> Don't let this one die a horrible death.
-----
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dlw(a)neosoft.com
http://www.neosoft.com/~dlw
Id love to have this.
----------
> From: will emerson <wpe(a)interserv.com>
> To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
> Subject: Classic computer toy? Mattel Intellivision, anyone want?
> Date: Thursday, September 11, 1997 6:17 PM
>
> Hello,
> Not sure this is the proper place for this, and I apologize if it
> isn't, but I have
> a Mattel Intellivision setup (left for us by a long ago former tenant of
> a property
> we used to own) with a bunch of cartridges. I have no clue as to whether
> the
> thing works, as it's been in a box in my basement for a good five years
> (and, who
> knows how long in the basement of the previous owner), but, if someone
> wants
> to "give it a home", please let me know. Located in Sudbury, Mass. USA.
>
>
> Will
>
There's Model 100 web site that offers free tech help and software for the 100
At 09:17 PM 9/11/97 -0700, you wrote:
>A friend of mine and I both have TRS Model 100s with problems and I am
>looking for schematics to the unit. If anyone has them for sale, cost of
>copies, scanned in, etc., I would much appreciate hearing about it. Thanks!
>
>
>
On Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 09:04:42, Tim Shoppa <shoppa(a)alph02.triumf.ca>
wrote:
>>My module list is about 3000 pages and fills 6 binders. Not exactly
>>convenient to carry around, but it is (fairly) comprehensive.
Can you e-mail it to me?? <g> I didn't realize that it was that lengthy. Is
is broken-down in any way (like by model), or is it a sequential list from
"M0000" to "M9999"? I'd be interested in the sections dealing with the uVAX-I,
uVAX-II, and the PDP-11/34.
Thanks again.
-------------------------------------------------
Rich Cini/WUGNET
<rcini(a)msn.com>
- ClubWin Charter Member (6)
- MCP Windows 95/Netowrking
Hi!
You probably already know, but I just found a keen site selling Sinclair
ZX81 kits in the US. Apparantly they opicked up the original kits years
ago, and are only now trying to sell them. I am interested in putting one
of these togeather, as the ZX81 was a fascinating computer, and highly
significant in the Home Computer industry - especially in the UK.
Anyway, it's at:
http://www.users.interport.net/~zebra/ts
and all the standard disclaimers apply. :)
Adam.
I finally managed to get one of these yesterday, including a number of
carts and a cassette drive, but there was no official power supply with it.
Instead I found a 9 volt DC supply mixed in the cables in the shop, but I
am not entirly certain if it is for this computer. It is likely, but I
don't feel like taking any risks. The Atari FAQ says that it took a 9v AC
supply in the US, but the plug on this one looks like a DC plug, and the
comments on the European version seemed to suggest that it used a DC
supply. Does anyone know what would be appropriate to use in Australia?
Thanks heaps,
Adam.
Hi Everyone,
Allison was the first respondant, so, gets first option. If then,
not claimed, then I will
re-contact those of you who also have expressed interest.
Thanks!
Will
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Just out of curiosity, does this one have the computer keyboard and stuff?
I found one the other day with the keyboard (and I am trying to get it),
but I have no idea how common they were.
Adam.
Ooooh, I've been looking for an Intellivision. I'm happy to pay shipping,
etc. to get it out to Iowa, which is where I am.
Let me know,
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Hello,
Not sure this is the proper place for this, and I apologize if it
isn't, but I have
a Mattel Intellivision setup (left for us by a long ago former tenant of
a property
we used to own) with a bunch of cartridges. I have no clue as to whether
the
thing works, as it's been in a box in my basement for a good five years
(and, who
knows how long in the basement of the previous owner), but, if someone
wants
to "give it a home", please let me know. Located in Sudbury, Mass. USA.
Will
At risk of repeating someone elses post (I receive the digest form of
the list):
Recently seen on the net:
> An HP 2100A minicomputer will become available soon, in Ann Arbor, MI.
> This is a machine I once worked on, but I can't take it (no space) so
> if anyone wants an old workhorse of a machine with some significant
> position in history, please take it.
> The thing is a typical late 1960's or early 1970's rack mounted
> minicomputer; I'm sure it can be safely de-racked. It can probably
> be shipped UPS, but it would be at the upper end of the UPS size and
> weight range, so it may have to go motor freight.
> There may be a DEC RX01 and an RK05 drive attached to it (I'm not
> sure which of the HP machines at Michigan had what peripherals, but
> the disk drives they used were from DEC). These can be deracked and
> shipped separately, but they're commodity parts, in a relative sense,
> while the HP2100 is not a commonplace machine.
> Doug Jones
> jones(a)cs.uiowa.edu
I would love this machine but shipping to Europe is out of the question
:-(
Don't let this one die a horrible death.
Regards,
Hans