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by thedm＠sunflower.com

at least they werent trashed. ---------- > From: John David Rose <chernoff(a)hargray.com> > To: thedm(a)sunflower.com > Cc: quantum(a)telis.org; ;;;jimw(a)agora.rdrop.com;; ;;;jbcole(a)ix.netcom.com;; ;;;towad(a)aol.com;; ;;;Zhiyuan(a)world.net.att.net;; ;;;Yertzell(a)worldnet.att.net;; ;;;warpig(a)mindspring.com;; ;;;peterb(a)revealed.net;; ;;;jac(a)openix.com;; ;;;glee(a)millcomm.com;; ;;;MichaelGoe(a)aol.com;; ;;;gmast(a)polymail.cpunix.calpoly.edu;; ;;;shack(a)frii.com;; ;;;tnguyen(a)UDel.Edu;; ;;;bucho(a)magpage.com; > Subject: No more Free Apple ///s > Date: Tuesday, September 16, 1997 12:50 PM > > Thank you for your response and interest in the Apple ///s. We received an > immediate response from a school for disadvantaged youngsters within an > hours drive of our office. They have already come and picked up the gear, > and they have a greatly experienced computer guy to help them set them up. > Sorry, but great for them. > > JD >

28 years, 6 months

Fw: No more Free Apple ///s

by alanr＠morgan.ucs.mun.ca

Can't think of a better or more deserving place for them, maybe these kids will grow up to appreciate computers as wonderful tools rather than the 'appliances' the industry would try to push on us. At 12:54 PM 16/09/97 -0500, you wrote: >at least they werent trashed. > >---------- >> From: John David Rose <chernoff(a)hargray.com> >> To: thedm(a)sunflower.com >> Cc: quantum(a)telis.org; ;;;jimw(a)agora.rdrop.com;; >;;;jbcole(a)ix.netcom.com;; ;;;towad(a)aol.com;; ;;;Zhiyuan(a)world.net.att.net;; >;;;Yertzell(a)worldnet.att.net;; ;;;warpig(a)mindspring.com;; >;;;peterb(a)revealed.net;; ;;;jac(a)openix.com;; ;;;glee(a)millcomm.com;; >;;;MichaelGoe(a)aol.com;; ;;;gmast(a)polymail.cpunix.calpoly.edu;; >;;;shack(a)frii.com;; ;;;tnguyen(a)UDel.Edu;; ;;;bucho(a)magpage.com; >> Subject: No more Free Apple ///s >> Date: Tuesday, September 16, 1997 12:50 PM >> >> Thank you for your response and interest in the Apple ///s. We received >an >> immediate response from a school for disadvantaged youngsters within an >> hours drive of our office. They have already come and picked up the >gear, >> and they have a greatly experienced computer guy to help them set them >up. >> Sorry, but great for them. >> >> JD ---------------------------------------------------------------- ______________________________________________Live from the GLRS The Man From D.A.D ----------------------------------------------------------------

28 years, 6 months

MV-II or PDP?

by kyrrin2＠wizards.net

You wrote... >I have just got a 'new' computer over the weekend. It was advertised as >a MicroVAX II with 2xRA81, 8Mb, and tape drive. >It has VMS 5.x on one of the RA81s and Ultrix on the other. It looks >like the picture in the Digital manuals of a MicroVAX II 630 (tall rack >unit with RA81 at top and bottom with the processor modules in between), >however it was only when I got it home that I saw the badge above the >On/Off switch which says "Digital PDP11/83". <snip> It's a MicroVAX II. MicroPDP's cannot boot or run VMS (that I know of) due to a different CPU. What's most likely happened is, somewhere along the line, somebody had a PDP-11/83 in that box, then pulled out the CPU and memory cards and replaced them with MicroVAX equivalents. You can easily do this, as the box, power supply, and backplane are compatible with either CPU. As an example: If I were to pull some spare 11/73 cards out of my stash, and replace the MV-II boards in my VAXStation II/GPX with them, said VAXStation would suddenly become an 11/73. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Bruce Lane, Sysop, The Dragon's Cave BBS (Fidonet 1:343/272) (Hamateur: WD6EOS) (E-mail: kyrrin2(a)wizards.net) http://www.wizards.net/technoid "Our science can only describe an object, event, or living thing in our own human terms. It cannot, in any way, define any of them..."

28 years, 6 months

MicroVAX II or PDP 11?

by pjoules＠coleg-powys.ac.uk

I have just got a 'new' computer over the weekend. It was advertised as a MicroVAX II with 2xRA81, 8Mb, and tape drive. It has VMS 5.x on one of the RA81s and Ultrix on the other. It looks like the picture in the Digital manuals of a MicroVAX II 630 (tall rack unit with RA81 at top and bottom with the processor modules in between), however it was only when I got it home that I saw the badge above the On/Off switch which says "Digital PDP11/83". When VMS starts it says VAX/VMS Version 5.x (can't remember the minor version number) and when Ultrix starts it reports that it is running on: MicroVAX II with FPU What have I got? By the way, the date stamped on all of the cases and labels is in 1988 if that helps. Can anyone tell me anything about it? -- Regards Pete #include <std_disclaimer>

28 years, 6 months

Rescue needed!!!

by thedm＠sunflower.com

Do we have someone in the Carolinas that can contact this person and get these, I would LOVE one. I have emailed him saying will wil try to get someone out. But I havent heard a response. Bill G. Subject: Apple ///s FREE! From: chernoff(a)hargray.com (John David Rose) Date: 1997/09/15 Message-Id: <chernoff-1509971002150001(a)dial-08.r8.scptvl.infoave.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2.usergroups [More Headers] We have five working, plus two for parts, Apple /// computers, complete with all utility disks, drivers, documentation, Cobol, Pascall, Basic, Word Juggler, Visicalc, Micro-Terminal programs, plus back-issues of "On-Three" magazine, plus three working impact printers. We hate to throw working equipment away. Can some computer tech school, lab, anyone take these off our hands before we simply have to junk them? Located in South Carolina. Send E mail message of interest to J.D. Rose at chernoff(a)hargray.com. thanks

28 years, 6 months

Info wanted, Congruent/Uniys machines

by thedm＠sunflower.com

It should be Convergent, Sperry, or Unisys. these boxes run CTOS/BTOS a VERY prioparatary OS that the only this series uses. If you need any help, I'll try, it's been 5 years since I touched one, but I used to run a 600 user network of them. ---------- > From: Alan Richards <alanr(a)morgan.ucs.mun.ca> > To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> > Subject: Re: Info wanted, Congruent/Uniys machines > Date: Monday, September 15, 1997 11:08 PM > > At 07:12 PM 15/09/97 -0400, you wrote: > >Hi, > > I have a couple of systems given to me by an accountant friend. They > >bear a > >"Congruent" name plate, but the actual name on the S/N - Model # plate, > >is > >Unisys. At least one of them is a model CJ-5330-A12. While he was using > > > "Congruent"? I know Unisys aquired "Convergent" (in '88 i think) but I've > never heard of "Congruent". How old are these systems? > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > ______________________________________________Live from the GLRS > The Man From D.A.D > ----------------------------------------------------------------

28 years, 6 months

Buy and Sell Antiques and Collectib

by sinasohn＠crl.com

At 07:32 PM 9/13/97 -0400, you wrote: >what the heck is this? i hope i dont have to see spam on this list! Yep, you guessed it, it's spam. > has opened its site at: http://www.acaonline.com. Best thing to do is avoid this site. If you really want to, spread a rumour saying they're crooked. > If you wish to be removed from this advertiser's future mailings, please If a reply actually reaches a valid address, you may indeed be removed from *this* advertiser's mailings. However, you will have provided the spam facilitator with a valid address for his other customers... --------------------------------------------------------------------- O- Uncle Roger "There is pleasure pure in being mad sinasohn(a)crl.com that none but madmen know." Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates San Francisco, California http://www.crl.com/~sinasohn/

28 years, 6 months

FT: DEC Rainbow 100, printers

by sinasohn＠crl.com

I picked up two DEC rainbow 100's and I only need one (actually, I don't need either, but I'm keeping one anyway. Love them disk drives!) This is a desktop unit with a really cute monitor/keyboard. Dunno if they work, but you can have your choice. So, anyone have anything they want to trade for one? Portables preferred... Also, I got a Kaypro printer (Daisywheel, I think) and a DEC printer that looks like a typewriter without the keys. (I'd go look at it to get the model, but I'm supposed to be working... 8^) --------------------------------------------------------------------- O- Uncle Roger "There is pleasure pure in being mad sinasohn(a)crl.com that none but madmen know." Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates San Francisco, California http://www.crl.com/~sinasohn/

28 years, 6 months

sorry about foulup

by davidv＠cs.mun.ca

just sent personal reply to group, and would like to apologize to all members of the listserv. Dave ------------------------------------------------------------------------- David Vincent davidv(a)ganymede.cs.mun.ca -------------------------------------------------------------------------

28 years, 6 months

[?? Name of 70's toy computer]

by jimw＠agora.rdrop.com

At 07:19 AM 9/15/97 -0700, you wrote: > >Here's one from the past: >What is the name of that toy mechanical digital computer >that was advertised in the back of many magazines and >catalogs like Edmunds Scientific and other tech hobby ones, >I believe in the early 70's. It was the size of a shoebox, >came unassembled, and had lots of moving parts. Sorry, >that's all I remember. But I think I saw one in the >Computer Museum in Boston several years ago. That would be the "DigiComp-1". Red plastic with slices of soda straws that you slip over tabs to "load" a program. Had one, lost it, would love to have one again... -jim --- jimw(a)agora.rdrop.com The Computer Garage - http://www.rdrop.com/~jimw Computer Garage Fax - (503) 646-0174

28 years, 6 months

Vintage Computer Festival Passes

by sinasohn＠crl.com

At 08:51 PM 9/11/97 -0700, you wrote: >> > faces with names! Anyone up for a dinner get together Saturday night? > I am totally unfamilar with the area but I am sure we can find a place to >eat. My preference would be someplace reasonable quiet so conversation is >possible :). The VCF is in Pleasanton, about 25-30 miles east-southeast of San Francisco. Roughly at the intersection of Hwys 580 & 680. As to where to eat, there's a Black Angus there which is a (chain) steakhouse that's pretty good. My no-red-meat-girlfriend likes 'em. It may be noisy though, as some are meet markets on the weekends with dance floors and such. (There's also the Cadillac Ranch nearby, which is really loud, but is good for C/W line dancing.) I'm sure others (who are more local) can point out good places. (For SF, check out my list at: <http://www.crl.com/restrant.com>) Anyway, I'd be interested in dinner. --------------------------------------------------------------------- O- Uncle Roger "There is pleasure pure in being mad sinasohn(a)crl.com that none but madmen know." Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates San Francisco, California http://www.crl.com/~sinasohn/

28 years, 6 months

Lisa 2/5 Startup Problems

by healyzh＠ix.netcom.com

Hi, I just got a terrific addition to my collection of Apple computers. One slight problem though, either I'm doing something wrong, or else there is something wrong with it. Cosmetically it looks to be in good shape, the only thing I really notice on that mark is someone apparently tried to manually eject a floppy with something other than a paperclip. Opening up the case I saw one problem the four batteries need replacement, and are starting to corrode. Any idea's on where replacements can be found? The button above the keyboard jack doesn't seem to function properly, it lights up, but I can't turn the computer off using it, it simply resets it. I power it up with the Profile drive powered up and connected. It comes up and passes the diagnostics just fine, nice crisp, bright display. It then looks for a boot device, can't find it, and asks where to look or restart. I go to the menu to tell it where to look, and it fails to find it. However, if I go to the menu, and let it sit for a little while the light comes on solid on the profile drive. I can then tell it to start from that disk, then the screen goes dark, the profile disk whirrs a couple times (the disk is nice and quite, moreso than a lot of more modern drives). At this point it just sits there. I've left it in this state for several minutes, nothing. Even pressing the power button above the keyboard jack has no results (is this supposed to do anything?). If I press the reset button on the back, it reboots to the can't find startup device screen. Are there disk images of the boot disks available anywhere? I gather there is a program on the Apple site ftp://mirror.apple.com/mirrors/info-mac/disk/dart-153.hqx that will let you create them, but I haven't had any luck searching. I would almost assume they are on a Apple server somewhere since pre-System 7.1 MacOS, and the OS for the Apple II is there. Thanks for your time, Zane | Zane H. Healy | UNIX Systems Adminstrator | | healyzh(a)ix.netcom.com (primary) | Linux Enthusiast | | healyzh(a)holonet.net (alternate) | Mac Programmer | +----------------------------------+---------------------------+ | For Empire of the Petal Throne and Traveller Role Playing, | | and the collecting of Classic Computers with info on them. | | see http://www.dragonfire.net/~healyzh/ |

28 years, 6 months

Info wanted, Congruent/Uniys machines

by davidv＠cs.mun.ca

hmmm... got me At 02:08 AM 9/16/97 -0200, you wrote: >At 07:12 PM 15/09/97 -0400, you wrote: >>Hi, >> I have a couple of systems given to me by an accountant friend. They >>bear a >>"Congruent" name plate, but the actual name on the S/N - Model # plate, >>is >>Unisys. At least one of them is a model CJ-5330-A12. While he was using > > > "Congruent"? I know Unisys aquired "Convergent" (in '88 i think) but I've >never heard of "Congruent". How old are these systems? > >---------------------------------------------------------------- >______________________________________________Live from the GLRS > The Man From D.A.D >---------------------------------------------------------------- > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- David Vincent davidv(a)ganymede.cs.mun.ca -------------------------------------------------------------------------

28 years, 6 months

Time to part with part of the collection

by jruschme＠exit109.com

Gang, Our bid on a new house has been accepted and my wife and I have started the task of packing. In reviewing my own computer collection, it looks like it's time to part with a few pieces which are redundant or for which I really don't have the time anymore. Therefore, the following are free to a good home: 1. Perkin-Elmer (Concurrent) 7350, 2MB RAM, 320K floppy, 30MB HD, KB, mono monitor. This is a 68000-based Unix box, often used for instrument control. Runs IDRIS, Uniplus SystemIII, and/or MicroXELOS (Uniplus-derived SVR2) (currently installed). Comes with copious manuals (including service docs), OS disks (plus extra copies), and some applications software. 2. AT&T 3B2/310, 4MB RAM, 2x72MB HD, floppy. Includes EPORTS, tape, SCSI, and Ethernet cards. Also have additional tape and PORTS cards. Comes with full set of manuals adn OS diskettes. 3. Zenith Z-89. 64K RAM, hard-sector disk controller. 4. Apple //c (ROM 255). 128K RAM, includes power brick. 5. TRS-80 Model III. 48K, 2 floppies (may need speed adjustment), serial card installed. Works, but not the prettiest Model III. 6. TRS-80 Color Computer 2 (older version). 64K, Extended Color Basic. Works, but again not the prettiest. 7. Dead Compaq Portable (original). Motherboard dead, some sort of problem with power supply. KB and video find. Includes Video, Printer, and HD controller cards. Also includes all case pieces. May be useful for someone attempting to restore one. I'm located in Central New Jersey. I'd prefer not to have to ship, but will do so if someone is will ing to pay. For obvious reasons, the Perkin-Elmer and AT&T may be too much to ship. <<<John>>>

28 years, 6 months

Info wanted, Congruent/Uniys machines

by alanr＠morgan.ucs.mun.ca

At 07:12 PM 15/09/97 -0400, you wrote: >Hi, > I have a couple of systems given to me by an accountant friend. They >bear a >"Congruent" name plate, but the actual name on the S/N - Model # plate, >is >Unisys. At least one of them is a model CJ-5330-A12. While he was using "Congruent"? I know Unisys aquired "Convergent" (in '88 i think) but I've never heard of "Congruent". How old are these systems? ---------------------------------------------------------------- ______________________________________________Live from the GLRS The Man From D.A.D ----------------------------------------------------------------

28 years, 6 months

Painting/Re-finishing computer cases...

by sinasohn＠crl.com

At 08:26 PM 9/12/97 -0800, you wrote: > Thinking about it this is a cool topic for discussion, has anyone >re-painted their computer cases and what tips/suggestions do you have >for us or what should we avoid (also got any good color schemes?). (I >have a few 64s lying around that would look neat with a custom paint >job, since they are plastic, what do you suggest? There was someone on the m100 mailing list who took his m100 apart and spray painted the case. A neat idea (except he broke his screen while putting it back together.) It's something I'd like to do one of these days, if I get a spare 100. --------------------------------------------------------------------- O- Uncle Roger "There is pleasure pure in being mad sinasohn(a)crl.com that none but madmen know." Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates San Francisco, California http://www.crl.com/~sinasohn/

28 years, 6 months

KMW Batch Protocol Converters

by sinasohn＠crl.com

Anyone know what these are? Best I can figure is they're maybe remote terminal servers for IBM 3278's or something? Anyway, I've got two of them, and I'm not sure I want to keep them. Anyone interested? --------------------------------------------------------------------- O- Uncle Roger "There is pleasure pure in being mad sinasohn(a)crl.com that none but madmen know." Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates San Francisco, California http://www.crl.com/~sinasohn/

28 years, 6 months

Info wanted, Congruent/Uniys machines

by wpe＠interserv.com

Hi, I have a couple of systems given to me by an accountant friend. They bear a "Congruent" name plate, but the actual name on the S/N - Model # plate, is Unisys. At least one of them is a model CJ-5330-A12. While he was using these, he was running an operating system called C-TIX which is supposedly strictly for accounting type applications, and, he claims, this is the only OS that will run on these. Anybody know any thing about these. This C-TIX looks alot like UNIX as far as OS commands... But... Any help anyone can give me on this, is more than greatly appreciated. AdvaTHANKSnce! Will -- Sorry to have to resort to this, but, due to the myriad of automatic e-mail advertising ("SPAMming") programs out there, I've been forced to modify my "reply to" address. To reply to this message, you must remove the .spamfree from the reply-to address. To those friends, and folks who are trying to contact me with info that I will likely be happy to receive, I apologze for this inconvienence. To those out there, sending all these annoying "junk mail" messages, I say "Oh well...." Will

28 years, 6 months

Vintage Computer Festival

by jrkeys＠concentric.net

I would love to attend the festival but I have used up all my vacation for the year. If can borrow from the next I will travel from MN to CA for it. At 02:21 AM 9/15/97 -0700, you wrote: > >This request goes out to anyone who maintains a classic/antique/vintage >computer web page. > >Could I get you to add a link from your page to the Vintage Computer >Festival web page (URL below)? In return, I will list your page in the >links section of the VCF web page. > >Please reply directly to me if you are interested in helping me out. > > >Also, could I get a rough show of hands of those who are interested in >attending the Vintage Computer Festival? I'm trying to get an idea of >what the interest level is among fellow collectors for this type of >show. Any feedback would be greatly appreciated. Also, your comments >and suggestions are welcome. Thanks! > > > >Sam Alternate e-mail: dastar(a)siconic.com >------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >Computer Historian, Programmer, Musician, Philosopher, Athlete, Writer, Jackass > > Attend the First Annual Vintage Computer Festival > See http://www.siconic.com/vcf for details! > > >

28 years, 6 months

Computer warehouse liquidation

by pdp-11＠juno.com

As owner of a DEC PDP-11/23+ system, I know how difficult it can be to find hardware for older PDP-11's, as well as non-DEC computers and parts.. I'd like to inform you that I've found a terrific source in Utah for used computer hardware including DEC related items. This person has a 2400 sq ft warehouse (about 3 semi truck loads) quite literally brimming with computer hardware which has been collected and stored over the past 10 years. He is currently in the process of liquidating it at very, very low prices. Tons of miscellaneous computer equipment is available, much of which was manufactured by DEC. It would be impossible to list even a fraction of what he has available, but he has told me that his inventory includes approximately 1000 Q-Bus and Unibus boards, plus peripheral devices such as disk and tape drives. I've not been to the warehouse in person yet, but I will be visiting the site in about 2 weeks time from now. If interested, you should be aware that he is in the process of getting rid of EVERYTHING! It sounds like it will all be gone in the next 3 to 4 weeks. Opportunities like this very seldom come along, so please contact me via email if you are interested in finding out more. I'll be happy to forward to you, any needed information that I can. Please feel free to forward this notice to anyone you think might be interested. Best regards.

28 years, 6 months

Vintage Computer Festival

by dastar＠crl.com

This request goes out to anyone who maintains a classic/antique/vintage computer web page. Could I get you to add a link from your page to the Vintage Computer Festival web page (URL below)? In return, I will list your page in the links section of the VCF web page. Please reply directly to me if you are interested in helping me out. Also, could I get a rough show of hands of those who are interested in attending the Vintage Computer Festival? I'm trying to get an idea of what the interest level is among fellow collectors for this type of show. Any feedback would be greatly appreciated. Also, your comments and suggestions are welcome. Thanks! Sam Alternate e-mail: dastar(a)siconic.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Computer Historian, Programmer, Musician, Philosopher, Athlete, Writer, Jackass Attend the First Annual Vintage Computer Festival See http://www.siconic.com/vcf for details!

28 years, 6 months

discussion recollecting of classic computers

by 1439pipe＠inet.westshore.cc.mi.us

hey ill take them all how much for shipping

28 years, 6 months

PET FAQ On-Line...

by foxnhare＠goldrush.com

After many months of hard-procrastination I have finally put my PET FAQ on-line. Those of you interested can check it out directly by going to: http://www.goldrush.com/~foxnhare/petfaq.html or you can check out the FAQ as well as my other Commodor 8-bit www pages by going to the url below. Larry Anderson -- -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- Visit our web page at: http://www.goldrush.com/~foxnhare/ Call our BBS (Silicon Realms BBS 300-2400 baud) at: (209) 754-1363 -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-

28 years, 6 months

Buy and Sell Antiques and Collectib

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

what the heck is this? i hope i dont have to see spam on this list! david In a message dated 97-09-13 08:22:25 EDT, you write: << Hello, We are writing you because you appeared to be interested in antiques and collectibles and that is what we are all about, the buying and selling of antiques and collectibles in an auction environment. We are a new family oriented auction company that has opened its site at: http://www.acaonline.com. IMPORTANT: If you do NOT wish to receive future information about our company or updates, simply reply to this e-mail message with the word "delete" and please accept our apologies for the intrusion. However, if you are interested, please read on and "Enter our World". Whether you are a BUYER or SELLER we invite you to join the fun. BUYERS Our service is ABSOLUTELY FREE for buyers. Come and register with us and have fun bidding online. We give you the feel of a real auction! Current auctions include: Hummels, Lladro, Clocks, Advertising Tins & Signs, Pottery, China, Depression Glass, Civil War and other photography, Elegant Glassware, Hallmark, Precious Moments, Tools, Cookie Jars, Jewelry and much more. SELLERS This is not only a great opportunity to sell your items, but to advertise YOUR WEB SITE. Whenever you post an item up for auction on ACA Online, you can put a link in the items description area that points back to your page. That's FREE advertising for you! We welcome any comments and suggestions. Thank you for taking the time to read our information! ********************************************************** Click here now to visit us: http://www.acaonline.com ********************************************************** ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// / If you wish to be removed from this advertiser's future mailings, please reply with the subject "Remove" and this software will automatically block you from their future mailings. ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// // >>

28 years, 6 months

Painting/Re-finishing computer cases...

by gmast＠polymail.cpunix.calpoly.edu

> > "Hammertone" finish has been popular on electronic equipment going back > > to the 1910's, at least. (Earlier stuff often used a far more > > extreme "wrinkle" finish.) Not only does it reduce glare off an > > instrument's surface, but it also hides small manufacturing defects > > a lot better, too :-) > > Wrinkle finishes seem to have mostly died out near 1960 or so. The only > (production) computer I have seen in wrinkle finish is the outer case of a > Packard Bell 250. Yea but wrinkle still looks cool, it's just not as tough. Mostly 50's stuff. Hammertone is easy to do also. It's available in spray or regular cans (which I spray). The formula has been changed to meet newer standards but it looks good and is easy to apply. I even matched the color on some 50's gumball machines I restored a few years ago. They're on my web page. > The textured finish found on more modern stuff (sometimes called a > splatter finish, as the first coat is splattered on with a purposely > crummy airbrush setup) can be restored quite easily, unlike wrinkle > finishes. For small (or big, if you are patient) bare spots, all one must > do is match the color of the paint at the paint shop, then manually apply > the texture with a toothpick or swab. For larger jobs, you could try a > badly done airbrush job. After the texture has dried, a smooth coat is > then applied to cover the whole repair and blend the new and existing > paint (an airbrush is a must for this job). The color will match, but most > likely the new paint will be duller than the old paint. This may be > acceptable to some, but if not, the new paint can be slowly buffed to the > proper sheen. We used to touch up that type of finish at work (way back in the 70's, yikes!). We used a piece of sponge or foam rubber and dabbed it on. That can help blend it in and minimize mismatch. Worked great. Toothpicks, etc work fine for smaller areas. The trick is to match the color or it'll stand out like a sore thumb. The glossiness can also affect the job. Buffing is hard to do because of the texture. Maybe I'm getting too picky here but you get the idea. They do make splatter guns and there are always the commercial coatings guys that can do it but that could be expensive. I'd say if you want it matched, take it down to the auto paint shop and have them match the color. Ask if they can match the glossiness (??) and if they can't, buy some additive and do it yourself. Probably easier to find something close and spray the whole thing. The "crummy airbrush setup" might work but it'll take some time. I find that learning the process and doing the job is the best part of the whole thing. Greg http://www.calpoly.edu/~gmast/

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