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Star Trek for CompuColor II

by kaikal＠MICROSOFT.com

Anyone have a copy of this gem? thanks Kai

28 years, 6 months

Are these really worth keeping?

by manney＠nwohio.com

>There are a few IBM cards that I've never seen and would love to get. Top >of my list is a PGC (professional graphics controller) - a 2 board set >that contained an 8088-based graphics accellerator. It emulated a CGA card >(I think) but had extra modes as well. Another thing I would like is a >Data Aquisition and Control adapter. I have boxes of unclssified PC cards. If you would describe what you wani, I could dig through and see if I come up with wahat you covet. You never know what you'll turn up. I even snagged an ST-412, which I'll put in my "original" PC, when I get around to it. (except I don't have any Xybec HDD controllers. Anyone have one cheap?) Manney

28 years, 6 months

War Games

by kaikal＠MICROSOFT.com

| an overhead display unit of some sort of EXTREMELY high quality. ... made by Stewart Filmscreen Corporation, who also outfitted the NASA Johnson Space Center, Pentagon War Room, and the _real_ NORAD control center. Not to mention ABC, NBC, CBS, Lucasfilm, MGM, Paramount, Disney, Fox, and Universal. Kai

28 years, 6 months

War Games

by kaikal＠MICROSOFT.com

| Ok, we have a conflict of nerd movie trivia here. Was it CompuPro S-100 | boxes or HP Vector Graphics generators? CompuPro/Godbout is in the credits... they obviously didn't supply the IMSAI :) My friend Norm here in the next office swears it was CompuPro boxes. Since he owned a CompuPro at the time the movie was released, I'm inclined to believe him -- apparently it was common knowledge in the CompuPro community. He's very specific about the MicroAngelo S-100 graphics boards that were used. Kai

28 years, 6 months

War Games

by allisonp＠world.std.com

<> What's neat is that this movie came out in 1983, probably filmed in 1982 <> or so. This is still nearly 3 years after the heyday of the IMSAI. Filming likely started in '81 and extended into '82. At that time you had altair (way off the their time), IMSAI, TRS80, Apple][, early PC, atari, commodore, various S100 crates, and some minis to pick from. What the imsai had was a colorful pannel with blinking lights, the only other one that matched that were Ithaca Intersystems s100 crates, and minis most of wich were no longer FP machines. The kid was not supposed to own a mini as a budding hacker. <Did it strike anybody as odd that while David was seen to turn the IMSAI <CPU on at various times, he never once turned on the disk drives? B^} He did a lot of majik that was technically suspect! Most secure systems back then would at best give you three tries at the password and drop you and if you tried the account within 15 minutes you were again dropped and the timer reset. The was to prevent cracking via successive tries. That was an example of commercial systems, secure military would not even have outside access that wasn't encrypted and highly secure. Allison

28 years, 6 months

Another source not to forget..

by wpe＠interserv.com

Another source to consider for classic stuff is the eubiquitous ((sp?) here in the Eastern Ma. area, anyway) "yard (or tag) sale". Saturday, I found a "roll table" built for DEC's old WT78 (revised VT52) word processor.. Paid U.S. $20 for it.. Best PC stand I've ever seen! Will -- Sorry to have to resort to this, but, due to the myriad of automatic e-mail advertising ("SPAMming") programs out there, I've been forced to modify my "reply to" address. To reply to this message, you must remove the .spamfree from the reply-to address. To those friends, and folks who are trying to contact me with info that I will likely be happy to receive, I apologze for this inconvienence. To those out there, sending all these annoying "junk mail" messages, I say "Oh well...." Will

28 years, 6 months

Intellivision stuff claimed!

by FAIAZMC＠hsd.utc.com

Allison, Can you send me a list of what you got? ---------- From: will emerson To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers Subject: Intellivision stuff claimed! Date: Saturday, September 13, 1997 8:40PM Hello Everyone, Allison Parent has taken over custody of the Intellivision stuff.. Will -- Sorry to have to resort to this, but, due to the myriad of automatic e-mail advertising ("SPAMming") programs out there, I've been forced to modify my "reply to" address. To reply to this message, you must remove the .spamfree from the reply-to address. To those friends, and folks who are trying to contact me with info that I will likely be happy to receive, I apologze for this inconvienence. To those out there, sending all these annoying "junk mail" messages, I say "Oh well...." Will

28 years, 6 months

HCS

by krh03＠csufresno.edu

Does anyone know if the Historical Computer Society is still going? If it is, how can I get in touch with them? Ken Harbit krh03(a)cvip.fresno.com

28 years, 6 months

URLs always wanted

by engine＠chac.org

Hi, I'm thoroughly enjoying being here and I just wanted to remind everybody that our history page, http://www.chac.org/chhistpg.html , is perennially in need of new links. As an example, we haven't found a single site yet that's devoted to classic laptops. I'd also appreciate any suggestion of a good win32 link-checking bot because this page has gotten far, far too voluminous to check by hand. Finally, thanks for all the Apple ][ material -- I'm still sifting through it. __________________________________________ Kip Crosby engine(a)chac.org http://www.chac.org/index.html Computer History Association of California

28 years, 6 months

War Games

by kaikal＠MICROSOFT.com

Believe it or not, all of the war room displays were generated by 4 CompuPro S-100 boxes with MicroAngelo graphics cards; thus the Godbout/CompuPro inclusion in the credits. Kai > ---------- > From: Sam Ismail[SMTP:dastar@crl.com] > Reply To: classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu > Sent: Monday, September 22, 1997 11:30 PM > To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers > Subject: War Games > > > Ok, I went out and rented _War Games_ because I'm a total nerd and > wanted > to see David's IMSAI. I noticed a couple interesting things in the > movie. First, in one scene early on where david is sitting in front > of > his computer, they show it head on, and you can see sitting on top of > his > monitor his modem, which had on it "IMSAI 212A MODEM". Did IMSA, in > fact, manufacture a 1200 baud modem? He also had an IMSAI labeled > keyboard! > > A neat thing: at the end of the movie during the credits they get to > thanking those who provided technical assistance. The first company > listed is none other than "CompuPro Division, Godbout Electronics". > Very > cool! Others listed were Televideo, Fischer-Freitas (why does that > sound > familiar and did I get the Fischer part right?), Memorex, Qume, and > about > 10 others. > > Anyway, pretty cool flick. It combines elements of hacking, phreaking > > (where he grounds the microphone on the old ground-start payphone, a > real > ball-sy scene since that was a real-life trick you could pull in those > > days) and of course classic computers! > > > Sam Alternate e-mail: > dastar(a)siconic.com > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > --------- > Computer Historian, Programmer, Musician, Philosopher, Athlete, > Writer, Jackass > > Attend the First Annual Vintage Computer Festival > See http://www.siconic.com/vcf for details! >

28 years, 6 months

HP 2100A stuff - info needed

by fmc＠reanimators.org

> With all of the commotion on pdp8-lovers concerning old HP stuff in > Michigan, I decided to take a look at what I have. I have no software or > paper with my "pile" (no rack, that was kept by the previous owner), so I > am basically stupid about the thing. Maybe someone can help. > > 2100A Computer #1304A02190 "Option 008" How to read HP serial numbers, in case you are interested: 1304A02190 13 == year, since 1960 (in this case 1973) 04 == week within year A == country of manufacture (A = USA) 02190 == serial number The year/week are supposed to be date of manufacture, but I think I have seen it used to mean date of last revision. Either that or HP managed to turn out a lot of some things in a week. It's also not clear whether a change in year/week resets the "counter" portion of the serial number. I'm not sure what option 008 is on a 2100A. > 7900A Disk Drive #1527A04334 > 2895B Tape Punch #1632A03303 FACIT model 4070 Yep, this is a badge-engineered Facit paper-tape punch. > 2748A Tape Reader #1133A01747 "System Serial 0815F" > 13215A Disk Drive Power Supply #1435A04338 "Option STD" > ????? Line Printer #? (Way too buried to investigate) Hmm, 2613A, 2617A maybe? > Inside the 2100A are cards: [elided] In row 1, A1 through A9 are the CPU. I am thinking that A9 and maybe A8 are options (DMA?), but will need to pull manuals to look. Likewise I will need to pull manuals to tell you more than obvious bits (e.g. DISC INT'F 1 and ...2 are how it talks to the 7900A) about the other things in row 1. Row 2 is where the memory lives. I am thinking that you have 32KW in that system; the XYDs should be the X-Y drivers, the SSAs should be core stacks, and I can't remember exactly what the ID (16K), IDL, or DC cards do. I do recall that there is also another flavor of the ID (16K) card for smaller memory configurations. There should be five-digit product IDs on each of those cards, most likely of the form 12ddda, where the "d"s are digits and the "a" is an alpha character. Those would help me when I have the manuals handy. Might even help me figure out which ones to pull. > The processor boards date to 1972, yet others date to the early 1980s. > Apparently this thing was upgraded (or repaired) several times during its > life doing secret things. > > OK, what do I have? Any input would be helpful. Well, you have more than I do in the way of hardware. My 2100A was part of a Fourier analysis system, and so I have some cards that do some sort of fast crunching on some sort of input signal, but all of the other I/O and memory was removed. So otherwise I just have the CPU cards. But I have manuals. Bug me, I'll pull 'em out and look through them and try to find out more for you. w/r/t the rack -- as near as I can tell HP used the same style of 19" rack for lots of stuff, from various 2100-based systems (including HP 1000s) to the early HP 3000s. I see them from time to time but they usually have been gutted already and are just empty racks. -Frank McConnell

28 years, 6 months

On the hunt at Goodwill . . . .

by thedm＠sunflower.com

Yeah Im the "computer guy" at the salvation army store I frequent. I think i've yet to pay full price for anything yet. I like to "haggle" ---------- > From: Scott Ware <s-ware(a)nwu.edu> > To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> > Subject: RE: On the hunt at Goodwill . . . . > Date: Tuesday, September 23, 1997 12:10 PM > > On Mon, 22 Sep 1997, James Willing wrote: > > > Now on the other hand, the Salvation Army store could not sell gear to Bill > > Gates based on the way they price stuff. An Apple IIgs for $495?!? Really > > now... > > Here (in Chicago), the Salvation Army store that carries computer > equipment tends to price everything computer-related at $45, regardless of > what it is. There was (until it recently closed) a Salvation Army "as-is" > store in the building with one of their warehouses that had some great > deals, primarily on items that they couldn't easily classify. It may be > worth looking for these in other cities, since the one here had items such > as oscilloscopes and Nixie tube DMMs that never made it into the normal > stores. > > Sometimes, thrift store pricing and procedures are hard to understand. I > once saw a thrift store employee deliberately damaging items with a hammer > before marking them down. I guess the theory is that you don't deserve > all of the keys if you're paying $2 for a computer instead of $20. > > Is anyone else here recognized as "the computer guy" at thrift stores? At > one store (admittedly only a block from my apartment, so I visit it > regularly), they save documentation for me and often mark down computer > equipment the day after I've passed it up. Prices have risen slightly > since they've realized that there is demand, but they seem to be stocking > more old computer equipment now, and if something is too expensive, it's > easy to wait a day or two! > > -- > Scott Ware s-ware(a)nwu.edu > > >

28 years, 6 months

Radio SShack Model 100 on AuctionWeb

by gmast＠polymail.cpunix.calpoly.edu

Hello, I'm trying not to buy too much more of this stuff but this guy made me a heck of a deal on a Model 100 along with a video camera I wanted. I put it in the auction. It's really nice and is still in the original box! Radio Shack Model 100 Laptop Computer (photo) Current bid: $42.01 Auction ends on: 09/28/97, 14:36:03 PDT http://komodo.ebay2.com/aw-cgi/ItemISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=511656

28 years, 6 months

On the hunt at Goodwill . . . .

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

Actually, I've had great success at goodwill here on the east coast. i picked up a complete platinum //e machine, a colour composite monitor with two undisk 5.25 drives, a trs80 model 3, an IBM PC RT, and the rare <?> printer attachment for my pc convertible and my uVAX II ! the pickings have been slow lately, but its always a luck of the draw kind of thing. i usually hit the stores about once a week and hope for the best. I regret not getting a plus/4 i saw in the original box last month. david In a message dated 97-09-22 23:33:48 EDT, Sam Ismail put forth: << Here's a hint for everyone...don't waste your time at Goodwill (well, usually). All the good stuff is at those for profit or non-chain thrift stores. Look for places like Thrift Town, Thrift Center, Thrift This, Thrift That, etc. I've heard that Goodwills take all the computer junk and auction it off. I never, ever find any computer stuff at Goodwills or Salvation Army's. I used to find stuff at the Salvation Army, and occasionally find some software (found an MSX cassette of all things at one recently) but never any hardware. >>

28 years, 6 months

IBM System/38 Free to Good Home

by manney＠nwohio.com

> >What happens when you boot up CP/M on the PC? It sounds rather >interesting. > You get an A: (or C:) prompt. <g>

28 years, 6 months

Help out Goodwill

by jrkeys＠concentric.net

This sounds like the Houston GW ?? I lived there a few years back and was a great place to find items. I like your help idea may try it here. At 09:41 PM 9/22/97 -0700, you wrote: >Sam Ismail wrote: > >> I've heard that Goodwills take all the computer junk and auction it off. >> I never, ever find any computer stuff at Goodwills or Salvation Army's. >> I used to find stuff at the Salvation Army, and occasionally find some >> software (found an MSX cassette of all things at one recently) but never >> any hardware. > >A friend of mine gave me a really good idea. In our area Goodwill does >auction off a bunch of stuff every Tuesday and Thursday mornings at 8:30AM. >The idea is to go in and help them to work on the computers. This >accomplishes a number of things. 1) It can help train some of the people >they are trying to help. 2) Fixed machines are worth more money hence a >larger income for Goodwill. 3) If we are helping, we will most likely have >the opportunity to see what is coming in and thus might be able to salvage >some classic machines! > > > >

28 years, 6 months

On the hunt at Goodwill . . . .

by jrkeys＠concentric.net

Sorry you feel that way as I find a ton of items at the GW, such hardware, manuals, parts (new and used), and software (new and used). The prices range >from .25 to 35.00. At 08:23 PM 9/22/97 -0700, you wrote: >On Mon, 22 Sep 1997, Zane H. Healy wrote: > >> I guess I'm in the wrong part of the West Coast! In the Portland area I've >> only gotten lucky enough to find stuff that cheep once or twice. Plus it >> seems like most stuff is either a C64, a 1541 drive, or a TI-99/4a, and >> they are always bare. You can't find stuff like power supplies, cables, or >> whatever else it takes to make them function without a LOT of looking. The >> average price at GW in this area for any item of this class is about $10! >> I think my best find ever around here was a TI-99/4a with PS, modulator, >> cassette cable, and 3 carts (which included extended BASIC) for $4. >> Needless to say this wasn't at GW it was another local Thrift Store which >> happens to be litterly next door to GW. > >Here's a hint for everyone...don't waste your time at Goodwill (well, >usually). All the good stuff is at those for profit or non-chain thrift >stores. Look for places like Thrift Town, Thrift Center, Thrift This, >Thrift That, etc. > >I've heard that Goodwills take all the computer junk and auction it off. >I never, ever find any computer stuff at Goodwills or Salvation Army's. >I used to find stuff at the Salvation Army, and occasionally find some >software (found an MSX cassette of all things at one recently) but never >any hardware. > >Sam Alternate e-mail: dastar(a)siconic.com >------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >Computer Historian, Programmer, Musician, Philosopher, Athlete, Writer, Jackass > > Attend the First Annual Vintage Computer Festival > See http://www.siconic.com/vcf for details! > > >

28 years, 6 months

Small finds to start

by jrkeys＠concentric.net

Well this week is not starting off as well as last week: items that were free: commodore 1541-II disk drive, flat C64 computer with a Epyz Fast Load cartridge still in it, Power supply for 1541-11,1571-II, or 1581; old metal transfer box for the apple from inmac it's blue/black metal; various appletalk cables; Hayes 1200 baud ext modem with power supply. Purchased the following items: HP utility disk for print srceen on the IBM PC/XT boxes for LaserJet and ThinkJet units; C16 ower's manual; apple mac book by Cary Lu; and last a copy of PC DISK Magazine with the manual 5 1/4 disk other items that were mailed with it, it si Vol 1 No 4 sold for $29.95 cost me $3.50. Well that's it for today hope to hit 3 more shoes tomorrow. Keep computing !!

28 years, 6 months

by allisonp＠world.std.com

<Original ][ this is 1978 ish starting point (possibly earlier) <"Expanded" //e (1987, the one with 64Kx4 RAM) If anything the //e was likely 1983 or so. You could still buy these in late '85 along with IIc. 1987? the two series was almost dead by then with the IIgs (maybe //c). This was mid 80s <IIGS ROM 00, 01, 03, and the prototype-only 04 <IIGS Upgrade Kit for //e, especially what it cost <If there=92s a model I=92m missing, and I don=92t think there is, please= what's with the (=92)? Allison

28 years, 6 months

Are these really worth keeping?

by alanr＠morgan.ucs.mun.ca

At 08:54 PM 22/09/97 -0300, you wrote: >I could use some advice here... > >I'm starting to sort through the misc. parts and accessories that I've >collected over the years and am wondering if certain things are really >worth keeping, such as: > > 1200 baud modems (Hayes external, Racal Vadic VA212LC) > CGA cards > Hercules and MDA mono cards > Generic XT floppy controllers > 1200 baud external modems? Hell yes keep them! You never know when they will come handy, i wish i had a few lying around now. Great for Minix boxes to check your mail... As for the assorted cards, well i am going to use the mass of cards i have here to bolt into my stell shelf units as book ends (i am going for the "inside the mainframe" look in my apartment :) "Linux users are people who would convince you that 10 steps are better than one" ---------------------------------------------------------------- ______________________________________________Live from the GLRS The Man From D.A.D ----------------------------------------------------------------

28 years, 6 months

[Fwd: Free Computer Books & Stuff!]

by MicroAge97＠aol.com

hello, i have seval apple lisa's(lisa 2's). there was a model that wouldn't keep time if they were unpluged. that's when they came up with the battery idea.... dave

28 years, 6 months

On the hunt at Goodwill . . . .

by adam＠merlin.net.au

>>But as far as that sort of stuff goes, I'm with Kai. Of course, I'm on >>the west coast as well. I can find stuff like C64, Atari 800, TI-99/4a, >>etc. in thrift shops for anywhere from $.99 to $2.98. Not bad. :) I've had a good run at thrift stores myself. Other than A Commodore 64-SX for $20, I picked up a Tandy TRS-80 Model 4P for $5, a VIC-20 (with 11 carts) for $5, and my Honeywell Microsystem 6 for $20. Whoever invented thrift stores was a very clever person. Adam.

28 years, 6 months

Another Lisa 2/5 question

by healyzh＠ix.netcom.com

Hi all, Well this weekend I got the boards out and removed the battery pack. I ended up using White Vinegar to clean up the mess the batteries had made. Seems to have worked OK. Now I've got a problem. How do I go about replacing the four batteries in the pack? I've no idea what they were rated at. Do I need replace them? I noticed an On/Off switch next to them, any ideas what it's for? Zane | Zane H. Healy | UNIX Systems Adminstrator | | healyzh(a)ix.netcom.com (primary) | Linux Enthusiast | | healyzh(a)holonet.net (alternate) | Mac Programmer | +----------------------------------+---------------------------+ | For Empire of the Petal Throne and Traveller Role Playing, | | and the collecting of Classic Computers with info on them. | | see http://www.dragonfire.net/~healyzh/ |

28 years, 6 months

On the hunt at Goodwill . . . .

by jrkeys＠concentric.net

I can get cables, power supplies , and other items for all the units talk about send me a e-mail at jrkeys(a)concentric.net with your list of needs. We can trade if you extra items to trade with. At 06:20 PM 9/22/97 -0800, you wrote: >>But as far as that sort of stuff goes, I'm with Kai. Of course, I'm on >>the west coast as well. I can find stuff like C64, Atari 800, TI-99/4a, >>etc. in thrift shops for anywhere from $.99 to $2.98. > >I guess I'm in the wrong part of the West Coast! In the Portland area I've >only gotten lucky enough to find stuff that cheep once or twice. Plus it >seems like most stuff is either a C64, a 1541 drive, or a TI-99/4a, and >they are always bare. You can't find stuff like power supplies, cables, or >whatever else it takes to make them function without a LOT of looking. The >average price at GW in this area for any item of this class is about $10! >I think my best find ever around here was a TI-99/4a with PS, modulator, >cassette cable, and 3 carts (which included extended BASIC) for $4. >Needless to say this wasn't at GW it was another local Thrift Store which >happens to be litterly next door to GW. > > Zane > > >| Zane H. Healy | UNIX Systems Adminstrator | >| healyzh(a)ix.netcom.com (primary) | Linux Enthusiast | >| healyzh(a)holonet.net (alternate) | Mac Programmer | >+----------------------------------+---------------------------+ >| For Empire of the Petal Throne and Traveller Role Playing, | >| and the collecting of Classic Computers with info on them. | >| see http://www.dragonfire.net/~healyzh/ | > > > >

28 years, 6 months

[Fwd: Free Computer Books & Stuff!]

by gmast＠polymail.cpunix.calpoly.edu

I sent this message out a while ago but the person responding never came through with the postage. Free to the first response. One requirement though: I must receive the postage within one week or I'll post it again or drop them off at the Goodwill. This is the second time this happened. I have the hardest time giving stuff away!

28 years, 6 months

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