Normally, 486 motherboards are set entirely in the CMOS setup program.
Jumpers, etc. typically control speed and processor type. Are you having
trouble getting it to come up?
manney(a)nwohio.com
>I have a 486lc motherboard and need to know about any of the settings
>(i.e. jumpers and dip switch) and what the memory config is. thanks
Today I place the new version of the CCC online. Now listing 3806
computers.
In this revision I have set up the infra structure to link each system
to its own page. The intent is to provide information and links for each
system. See the entry for the Sperry SPEEDAC computer.
BTW anyone heard of the ULTRAMAC computer built in the mid fifties?
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>It could make "Classic" tenuously on either one and, given both, has NO
>problem. Now -- what I keep wondering about is an Atari Portfolio (1989)....
I have added it to my web site, based on a) being obsolete, b) being a new
concept for its time (first MS-DOS palmtop?), and, of course, c) being
really keen.
Anyway, 1989 is even starting to get old in computing terms.
Adam.
Found on Usenet, can anyone help out?
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At 19:38 10/1/97 -0800, you wrote:
>....I am not certain if the 150
>is in the "Classic" arena but I am assuming so by a pic I found on the
>web, if not sorry on printing an off-topic post.
The HP-150 is:
1) vintage 1984, and
2) absolutely fascinating.
It could make "Classic" tenuously on either one and, given both, has NO
problem. Now -- what I keep wondering about is an Atari Portfolio (1989)....
__________________________________________
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http://www.chac.org/index.html
Computer History Association of California
I just picked up 34 'Hewlett Packard 150' diskettes; except for one
they are all user labeled (Well I THINK they are all HP-150 disks, the
disk type and labeling are very similar.) I am not certain if the 150
is in the "Classic" arena but I am assuming so by a pic I found on the
web, if not sorry on printing an off-topic post.
So, if there is anyone here that is interested in 34 assorted HP-150
disks, lemme know.
Larry Anderson
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While dropping by a local thrift (where classic game cartridges were
last seen 1 and half years ago) I spotted at least 3 square modules
which I recognized to be Unisys or Convergent Technologies machines
which ran BTOS/CTOS. As I recall these modules snapped together along a
bus (X-bus?) that ran along the bottom of each module. I didn't take a
closer look to see what they were, but if anyone in the list is
interested, I could go back for them to determine what is there and what
price is wanted (yes, I'm offering to pick up and ship for a nominal fee
- I'm just a nice guy..)
Matt Pritchard
matthewp(a)netcom.com
mpritchard(a)ensemblestudios.com
I played it about 5 years ago. I let the machine slip through my
fingers though (thru neglect of interest). Still a chance it can be dug
up...
-Matt Pritchard
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kai Kaltenbach [SMTP:kaikal@MICROSOFT.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 1997 7:49 PM
> To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
> Subject: Star Trek for CompuColor II
>
> Anyone have a copy of this gem?
>
> thanks
>
> Kai
At 06:14 AM 9/27/97 +0000, you wrote:
>Found this on alt.folklore.computers
>
> We have a working (or at least it was) Nicolet 290 computer. that
> need to vacate the room its been taking up for the last 20+ years.
>This system is rigged up as a test bench for an MRI system (that's
>all still there too) and we have all the manuals, disk packs, paper
>tape programs, banks of core memory etc etc.. I plan to do a small
>inventory of the parts and pieces but if I don't find it a home soon
>it'll get smashed up.
> Does anyone know anything about these computers? I have no idea what
>else they may have been used for or how rare this thing is. Anything
>anyone knows about it could be helpful towards finding it a proper
>home. BTW.. Size wise you're looking at a large console with a plotter
>built in and a short 19 inch rack plus many boxes of disk packs
>(Diablo) and manuals.
>
> Ken Montgomery
> CSU Sacramento
> kenm(a)csus.edu (Ken Montgomery)
>
>I've never heard of a Nicolet 290... What is it?
>
>Ken Harbit
>krh03(a)cvip.fresno.com
>
The Nioclet 290 is a dedicated instrument controller and data acquisition
computer made by Nicolet Instrument Corp. in Madison, Wisconsin. Nicolet is
a major manufacturer of Fourier transform (FT) infrared spectrometers, and
at one time also manufactured FT Nuclear Magnetic Resonance spectrometers.
I have one of the 290's great-grandchildren, the NIC 660, still operating a
FTIR spectrometer in my lab. My system was purchased new in 1986, and is
still running reasonably well. I don't know a lot about the 290, but what I
can tell you about these computers in general is that they are essentially
totally proprietary platforms that were designed and built from the ground
up to control FTIR and FT NMR instrumentation and process spectral data.
The design of the systems were optimized to handle fast Fourier
transformation of spectoscopy data "on-the-fly" as it came off of the
spectrometer. These computers use a proprietary operating system written
by Nicolet (NICOS) which is somewhat Forth-like but has a user shell
running on top. The user shell bears some resemblance to Unix. The 660
system I have has applications software for IR spectroscopy, some text
editors, and compilers for Fortran, Basic, and Pascal. Nicolet stopped
manufacturing these computers and switched over to PC's about 3-5 years
ago, but still maintains some limited support (ie, parts and supplies) for
these proprietary machines.
>
> Hi,
>
> Is it possible to find out if someone is still subscribed to the list
> other than sending a message to them through the list? What I really
> want to know is: is there a way to get a list of the subscribers
> from the listproc?
Send mail to the List processor with:
recipients classiccmp
..that should do it. If you send "help", it will send back an almost complete
list of commands.
How funny.
For the past several days, everytime I walk down the hall of my office to
go to the loo, I notice this odd looking computer in another company's
suite. I can only see the back of it, but I can tell it is not a PC
because it seems to have centronics ports on the back, although I only
catch quick glimpses because I'm walking by at my usual energetic clip.
Well tonight I stopped to gawk at it while the cleaning person had their
door open and sure enough its a Victor 9000. I look across the desk to
another computer and see a monitor with the "Victor" nameplate on it as
well. What a trip. Someone in my building is actually still using a
computer which I consider part of my vintage computer collection. I'm
going to talk to them and see what they are using on it. Must be some old
accounting or insurance or real estate or something application. I don't
know what their business is because their name is "Vanier & Associates" so
it could be a front company for an international arms smuggling operation
for all I know.
Sam Alternate e-mail: dastar(a)siconic.com
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At 11:55 PM 9/30/97 -0700, you wrote:
>door open and sure enough its a Victor 9000. I look across the desk to
>another computer and see a monitor with the "Victor" nameplate on it as
>well. What a trip. Someone in my building is actually still using a
>computer which I consider part of my vintage computer collection. I'm
>going to talk to them and see what they are using on it. Must be some old
Please post (or at least e-mail me) with what you find out. The Vic9k has a
special place in my heart (and my collection!) as my folks were considering
purchasing one very early on and I remember being very impressed with its
specs. They also had Victor adding machines (My dad was a CPA.)
>it could be a front company for an international arms smuggling operation
Well, if it is, don't worry about being sued; they probably wouldn't have a
leg to stand on. 8^)
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[Note: I saw Hans' message on comp.sys.hp.misc and replied
privately, but figure there might be some other folks here
who want to know this stuff.]
Hans Pufal <hans1(a)filan00.grenoble.hp.com> wrote:
> When I got it home I found that it rattled, so I dismantled it and found
> two large burnt out resistors on the keyboard PCB. The rattle was caused
> by pieces of these resistors in the case.
>
> Does anyone have docs sufficient to determine the replacement parts for
> these resistors?
Time for some copying from the service manual. Useful information below
is from the HP-97 Programmable Printing Calculator Service Manual,
HP part number 00097-90130, dated August 1976.
Table 4-9. Keyboard Printed-Circuit Assembly A2A1 (00097-60002)
Replaceable Parts
Ref HP p/n Description
R1 0683-4715 RESISTOR, fxd, 470 ohm
R2* 0683-2045 RESISTOR, fxd, 200K
R2* 0684-3341 RESISTOR, fxd, 330K
R3 0812-0058 RESISTOR, fxd, 8.2 ohm, 2W
R4 0811-1674 RESISTOR, fxd, 4.7 ohm, 2W
R5 0698-8691 RESISTOR, fxd, 4.0 ohm, 1%
R6 0683-1835 RESISTOR, fxd, 18K, 5%, 1/4W
R7 0683-3915 RESISTOR, fxd, 390 ohm
CR1 1990-0450 LED, low battery indicator
Q1 1853-0393 TRANSISTOR, PNP
Q2 1853-0401 TRANSISTOR, PNP
Q3 1853-0374 TRANSISTOR, PNP
Q4 1854-0071 TRANSISTOR, NPN
U1 1820-1629 INTEGRATED CIRCUIT, cathode driver
U2 1990-0595 DISPLAY, numeric
U3, 4 1858-0044 INTEGRATED CIRCUIT, quad transistors
U5 1810-0252 INTEGRATED CIRCUIT, resistor network
P1, 2 1251-3955 CONNECTOR, 9-pin
W1 8120-2206 CABLE, 24-conductor
00097-80002 BOARD, etched
R2 is marked with a * because it is selected based on the cathode
driver IC U1. I don't completely get this, but there is a chart
(Table 4-8, Cathode Driver Resistor Selection Chart):
U1 Category: I J
R2: 200K 330K
Given that you say the burned out resistors are "large" I am going to
guess that you are looking for R3 and R4.
Here's the layout toward the rear of the board if that helps.
Q4 R7 R5
Q2 R6
Q3 R2
---U5--- R1
---U4--- ---U3---
-------- --------
---U1---
--------
-----------J1----------- Q1
R3 R4
> What is the power input requirements for the HP-97?
12.8VAC (from paragraph 2-42).
Actually there is a flowchart that includes a test for the AC adapter.
For approximately 115VAC input, the output should be between
V(in)/10.55 and V(in)/7.82; for 230VAC input, the output should be
between V(in)/21.1 and V(in)/15.65. The next part of the test is
to connect a 10 Ohm +/- 5% 5W load across the output of the AC adapter
and measure the voltage across the load; it should be between 6.2 and
7.4VAC.
Hope this helps!
NB- I read your message in comp.sys.hp.misc. It looks like you might
have posted it to classiccmp too. I am a bit behind reading that. Feel
free to repost this there.
-Frank McConnell
> I've started collecting old IBM machines, (brand loyalty) and today came
> across a machine called an IBM powerstation 550e. it looks very much like an
> apple /// except it has two floppy drives, a db9, rj11,.and 3 db25 ports on
> the back. i havent powered it up yet as i'm still trying to figure out how to
> open it. I'm off work this week, so I cant ask any of the old IBMers what
> this is. anyone know?
Rather than merely endorsing William D's comments, I think I have one or two
things to add...
1. The keyboards on our RS/6000s at work look exactly like PS/2 keyboards
except there is an ID number printed in the margin of the Num Lock lamp sticker.
It does not have the huge quantity of extra keys found on the 3270 workstations
that I used to work with.
2. The RS/6000 are not very closely related physically to the 6150 (RT PC)
family. Certainly neither our model 320 nor 375 have ISA slots - the slots are
much more like the ones you describe.
3. However, I am puzzled by your physical description. I too expected a large
tower for a 500 series powerstation. In fact I cannot think of any IBM product
that looked like an Apple /// except possibly the Datamaster. Could the name
Powerstation have been used for something other than RS/6000s?
Philip.
Geez, I remember that one. A office equipment company I used to work for sold those, along with some Xerox DOS box (800, maybe?), CPT word processing stations and CADO multiuser systems.
My first foray into investments was buying 100 shares of Victor Technologies stock at $3/share.
<<flush!>>
:-)
-- Tony Eros
Digital Equipment Corporation
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From: Sam Ismail[SMTP:dastar@crl.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 1997 2:55 AM
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
Subject: CC> Victor 9000 down the hall
How funny.
For the past several days, everytime I walk down the hall of my office to
go to the loo, I notice this odd looking computer in another company's
suite. I can only see the back of it, but I can tell it is not a PC
because it seems to have centronics ports on the back, although I only
catch quick glimpses because I'm walking by at my usual energetic clip.
Well tonight I stopped to gawk at it while the cleaning person had their
door open and sure enough its a Victor 9000. I look across the desk to
another computer and see a monitor with the "Victor" nameplate on it as
well. What a trip. Someone in my building is actually still using a
computer which I consider part of my vintage computer collection. I'm
going to talk to them and see what they are using on it. Must be some old
accounting or insurance or real estate or something application. I don't
know what their business is because their name is "Vanier & Associates" so
it could be a front company for an international arms smuggling operation
for all I know.
Sam Alternate e-mail: dastar(a)siconic.com
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Found this on alt.folklore.computers
We have a working (or at least it was) Nicolet 290 computer. that
need to vacate the room its been taking up for the last 20+ years.
This system is rigged up as a test bench for an MRI system (that's
all still there too) and we have all the manuals, disk packs, paper
tape programs, banks of core memory etc etc.. I plan to do a small
inventory of the parts and pieces but if I don't find it a home soon
it'll get smashed up.
Does anyone know anything about these computers? I have no idea what
else they may have been used for or how rare this thing is. Anything
anyone knows about it could be helpful towards finding it a proper
home. BTW.. Size wise you're looking at a large console with a plotter
built in and a short 19 inch rack plus many boxes of disk packs
(Diablo) and manuals.
Ken Montgomery
CSU Sacramento
kenm(a)csus.edu (Ken Montgomery)
I've never heard of a Nicolet 290... What is it?
Ken Harbit
krh03(a)cvip.fresno.com
Hi there,
I will be in Bellevue WA for a week, arriving Saturday 4th Oct, leaving
Fri 10 Oct. Anything going on that I would kick myself for missing?
Regards,
Hans B Pufal
concerning this powerstation, i doubt its a risc machine; i have an IBM PC RT
which i will post about later, and that is entirely different from this box.
i cannot see the main board because of the two floppy drives which are tilted
up. there is 4 card slots, but they're not ISA. they look like long
continuous ISA slots, about 6-7 inches long with a disk controller installed.
the machine "posts" but i've no floppy and no video (yet) this machine also
didnt have a key. just some latches which were pulled and the top came off.
In a message dated 97-09-30 21:16:02 EDT, you write:
<< It is probably an older RS/6000 - however, I have never heard of a 550e
(then again, IBM makes a lot of weird stuff). The 500 series RS/6000s are
largish deskside towers. The desktop machines are the 200 and 300 series.
Open the thing up! If it is an old RS/6000, it will have a processor board
with eight or so big nasty looking chips - the Power RISC processor. The
only thing that may give you trouble is that the key (if it has one) must
be in the service position to get the cover off. >>
Sure. How much do you want? (uh...is it over 10 yrs old? This is *classic*
computers, remember!)
Is it an SX or DX? What MHz? Any RAM?
manney(a)nwohio.com
>Someplace around here, I've got a 386 motherboard and processor, that
>replaced an
>old DEC 33 mhz unit.. No clue (off the top of my head) who made it..
>Anybody want
>the thing?
I've started collecting old IBM machines, (brand loyalty) and today came
across a machine called an IBM powerstation 550e. it looks very much like an
apple /// except it has two floppy drives, a db9, rj11,.and 3 db25 ports on
the back. i havent powered it up yet as i'm still trying to figure out how to
open it. I'm off work this week, so I cant ask any of the old IBMers what
this is. anyone know?
david
Well, the physical description sounds a bit odd, but from the model
number I believe you've got one of the early, pre-PowerPC RS/6000 RISC
boxes.
Hope it came with a keyboard... although they have standard-looking
PS/2-style keyboard connectors, the RS/6000 boxes require a specific
keyboard that looks kind of like a PC/3270 keyboard, with a built-in
speaker. I've been looking for a keyboard for a friend of mine's
machine for quite a while.
Kai
> -----Original Message-----
> From: SUPRDAVE(a)aol.com [SMTP:SUPRDAVE@aol.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 1997 4:46 PM
> To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
> Subject: what is this? IBM powerstation
>
> I've started collecting old IBM machines, (brand loyalty) and today
> came
> across a machine called an IBM powerstation 550e. it looks very much
> like an
> apple /// except it has two floppy drives, a db9, rj11,.and 3 db25
> ports on
> the back. i havent powered it up yet as i'm still trying to figure out
> how to
> open it. I'm off work this week, so I cant ask any of the old IBMers
> what
> this is. anyone know?
>
> david
I've seen two interesting AT&T terminals lately. Both of them are the
same. The screen is rather larger and squarish (about 10" both
dimensions). The most interesting thing is it has what seems to be a
carthridge slot on the side. There is a long white flap on the base unit
that pushes in to reveal an card socket. Anyone have any ideas what the
slot is for?
Sam Alternate e-mail: dastar(a)siconic.com
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Several days ago, William Donzelli wrote:
> Was any machine (most likely mainframe class) ever built using F100K ECL
> (the super fast stuff - even today)? The family is small but well thought
> out, and includes some rather bizarre functions.
When I went to Munich to visit my German pen friend 4+/-1 years ago, the
Technical University of Munich had just thrown one out. It was made by
Control Data Corp., and had a model number like 220 or something.
Bernhard was then a student there, and got some bits as souvenirs. I
did some swapping and ended up with 4M 18-bit words of 40 and 45 ns
static RAM for possible use in one of my systems (I haven't yet!) and,
as a museum piece, a card from the CPU.
This CPU card was covered on one side in surface mounted 100000 series
ECL, which I believe is the same as F100K. The other side of the card
had a thin layer of insulator and a thick layer of steel - presumably to
interface thermally to a cooling system.
Philip.
A possible opportunity for someone... See attached message
-jim
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[ Part 2: "Included Message" ]
Date: Mon, 29 Sep 1997 18:09:09 GMT
From: Mike Stute <lilthug(a)metronet.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.northstar, dfw.forsale
Subject: North Star Horizons For Sale
I have 2 North Star Horizons and an Imsai 8080 that need a new home.
I'm in the Dallas area.
Make Offer.
Mike
(972) 242-1271