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by allisonp＠world.std.com

<From: Tony Duell <ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk> <Intel MCS8i 8080 development system. Well, it was late in the day, my <money was running out, so I could only buy one of them. MCS8i, if it was 1972 it could only be 8008 powered as the 8080 was a few years later. Actually the MCS handle was copyrighted with the 4004. The 8008 was late 1971 and the 8080 a bit over a year later. <I picked the Intellec. And I am not sorry. Sure it's not going to make me <rich, but it is _beautiful_ inside. It came with all the manuals <(schematics and monitor source code), and contains the 8080 CPU board <(copyright 1972, which must make it a pretty early 8080 design), a couple <of 4K RAM boards, an EPROM board (1702's, of course) containing the <monitor, an I/O card, and the programmer for the 1702. The backplane bus <uses 100 pin 0.125" edge connectors, but the card has a differnt form <factor (and pinout) to S100 cards if it was the 100 pin cards (one connector it's the MCS) where the MDS was multibus with the two backplane connectors. I believe your off on the date by about two years as the 4004 was 70/71 and the 8008 was first of the 8bitters in late '71 and labeled the MCS-8 and the 8080 was the MCS-80 and the 8085 followed using the MCS-85. My references are the SIM08/mcs-8 user manual March 1973. I also I did design work with the 8008 chip in early '73. The 8080 was not available yet but the intel rep was saying "soon". It would be nearly 74 before soon arrived. On the up side yes they were constructed like minis, that was the standard of the time. Big rugged boxes that had to earn their keep. The MDS I have is partially gutted as someone pulled the power supplies out but the rest is intact and last I powered it it ran. FYI the CPU was not even branded in mine it has some odd penciled ES19-1 on the cpu(8080). I even have the correct Power One supplies to complete it( same vintage). In time they could be worth more as they are scarce(low volume production). <As regards historical interest, well, it has an IOBYTE at address 3, <divided into 4 2-bit fields that define the console, punch, reader and <list device - long before CP/M. And there's plenty more things like that. The first incantation of CPM was on an MDS-800 box and the sources for a typical bios in the cpm 1.4 and 2 manuals reflect that. IOBYTE is supported, The docs say it's implemented using the intel standard. Allison

28 years, 5 months

Free: Vax 11/750 computer

by sinasohn＠ricochet.nospam.net

I've got place to put it and no way to get it there. Maybe someone else does? In ba.market.computers, Graham Freeman <graham(a)step.mother.com> wrote: > FREE - You pick up - VAX 11/750 monster computer. Three units - >two the size of a full-size home refrigerator and another the size of an >economy clothes washer. Call or e-mail if you're interested. Units are >located in Davis, California. >Graham Freeman graham(a)madre.com >(530)753-0650 - voice (530)759-4184 - pager ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Uncle Roger "There is pleasure pure in being mad sinasohn(a)crl.com that none but madmen know." Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates San Francisco, California http://www.crl.com/~sinasohn/

28 years, 5 months

apollo computers?

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

some guy i bought a mac video card from said he had something called an apollo workstation. he said it was a 68020/68030 with a 19 inch monitor, can run *nix, and would only want ~$50 for it. anyone heard of this machine or know anything about it? he said some local colleges used the machines for various duties but are obsolete now. david

28 years, 5 months

Amiga 1000 (was:My Recent find)

by ejames＠newwave.net

At 04:48 AM 11/1/97 -0500, you wrote: > > >On Fri, 31 Oct 1997, Bruce James wrote: > >> and my latest find a Amiga 1000 with 1080 moniter and 512k memory >> anyone have more information on expansion of this computer?? > >I used an Amiga 1000 as my primary computer for six years. Beautiful >machine. The darling of my collection. :) Hi thanks Doug for the reply I am mostly looking for ways of adding more memory and a hard drive.. picked up a second 3 1/2 external drive and rs1200 modem. I need a good terminal program and Word Processer.. Also can you give me a hint on what software will work like most stuff for the a-500 or a-2000?? > I can pull out >my old manuals and magazines and see what I can dig up. Hopefully I >haven't made any errors above. :) > >Doug Spence >ds_spenc(a)alcor.concordia.ca Again thanks Bruce James kb8kac tech plus ejames(a)newwave.net

28 years, 5 months

Classic Computer Rescue Squad

by photze＠batelco.com.bh

Sure they would.... if the computer was better built then them, then it would break their head. If it was built worse than them, their head would only sustain minor damage!!! ---------- From: Kip Crosby <engine(a)chac.org> To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> Subject: Re: Classic Computer Rescue Squad Date: Saturday, November 08, 1997 3:18 AM At 23:18 11/7/97 +0000, you wrote: >I am conviced that a lot of people (probably not on this list) wouldn't >know a well-designed or well-built computer if it was dropped on them... Naturally not, they'd be too busy limping around howling. ____________________________________________________________ Kip Crosby, honcho, mechanic and sole proprietor, Kip's Garage http://www.kipsgarage.com: rumors, tech tips and philosophy for the trenches Coming Spring '98: The Windows 98 Bible by Kip Crosby and Fred Davis!

28 years, 5 months

Classic Computer Rescue Squad

by photze＠batelco.com.bh

Now.... just for fun, try to get a modern PC, drop it on your toe (A sacrifice for science) and then watch it break into DOZENS of piece. Chip out of socket, RAM out of socket, motherboard out of case, power supply out of case, HDD crashed, disk drive not in a working condition, CD-ROM drive's laser swears that there's no disk in. They don't make 'em like they used to!!! ---------- From: Jeff Beoletto <jbeolett(a)ssi.net> To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> Subject: Re: Classic Computer Rescue Squad Date: Saturday, November 08, 1997 6:28 PM On Sat, 8 Nov 1997, Daniel A. Seagraves wrote: > On Sat, 8 Nov 1997, Hotze wrote: > > > At 23:18 11/7/97 +0000, you wrote: > > >I am conviced that a lot of people (probably not on this list) wouldn't > > >know a well-designed or well-built computer if it was dropped on them... > > > > Naturally not, they'd be too busy limping around howling. > > > > I DID THAT! I DID THAT! I successfully managed to crush Jeff Beoletto's > (One of my friends) toes with > a PDP-11/44. We were trying to move it sideways. BTW, his foot healed up > quite well. And he wasn't limping around, he was curled up in a little > ball on the floor, cussing a blue streak :) A week ago we were moving the > RA81, and I almost did it again... > > > Seeing how it was me that Dan managed to drop it I can agree to the limping, and ironically enough it's the same foot that I had broken 3 times in the month before he crushed it. And just yesterday hauling a pc down to our storagge office on the 5th floor I tripped and fell down the steps and have just re-broken that very same ankle. Computers are hazerdous to your health. =+)

28 years, 5 months

8-bit Atari's

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

In a message dated 97-11-01 22:50:14 EST, Zane Healy put forth: > I had a good day scrounging the junk stores, first chance I've had in about > two months to do any serious looking. Among the things I came up with > today were an Atari 400 and a Atari 800. No Power Supply for either > though, but then I'm used to that problem. The question is, what on earth > does it use for a PS? Can I just break out the old Atari 2600 and use it's > PS? on my ps for my atari 400 it says the output is 9v ac but im not sure if the plug is center positive or not. anyone have tapes for the 400? i have the "program recorder" but nothing to use in it. david

28 years, 5 months

Classic Computer Rescue Squad

by allisonp＠world.std.com

<> IE: altair was importnat because it was relatively cheap. < <And it spawned a bus architecture that begat the micro-computer <revolution. There is something to that but on closer inspection the SWTP, SouthWest Technical Products SS50 bus was far cheaper and much easier to interface to. The 100 pin connector was expensive and the redundant signals were/are a pain. It would take several years to sort out things like bus noise and compatability. No S100 was a bandwagon and the technology was not at issue as there were better busses and even at the current time of the altair. When IMSAI also did it nearly the same people sayw that as important enough that there were two systems with a similar bus that wasn't too bad to connect to. Now that is historically significant. When two companies compete using similar hardware or software that is when it takes significance as it just became an industry. As to spawning a revolution, no. That started when the machines became small enough and cheap enough to be attainable. I still remember in 1970 hanging out in highschool with the guys debating processor wordlength and actually developing on paper a possible sequencer for one. I could have had a CIM2000 in '72 (bout the size and performance of an 8e) for $2000! That was the price of a new ford pickup then! It was there I was in it. What it did was give us early computer hackers and engineers something useful without some of the teething cycles of homebrewery. It was also the industry cranking out components that had potential at attainable prices. I built my first logic design using a RAM (1101, 256x1) in late '71 and it was at $23 each. In a year the 2102 (1kx1) would be $16. Imagine a 1kx8 memory for $128!!! By 1974 that would be 4kx8 for under $100. This along with TTL prices dropping to pennies for a 7400 gate made assembling a pdp-8 or somesuch within reach, then the 8008 chip at $180 (over a weeks take home pay in 1972) made it come a bit closer. A year before the DEC 1974 Popular Electronics Altair article were the Radio Electronics articles for the Mark-8 a 8008 machine. So it wasn't a single event is as much the cumulations of many small events. We would get out of the basement/garage and started on the next level. Better said we stopped trying to build a machine and started doing things with it. It was an accelerator. There were many of accelerators. There would be many more, the z80 would be the next one. I also think the 16bit battles that started soon after would push the envelope some more, as did the 32bit systems. In the middle of the 8/16 battle graphics started to be seen and that pushed the CPUs harder and demanded more memory and left a huge vacuum for software. Allison

28 years, 5 months

Classic Computer Rescue Squad

by allisonp＠world.std.com

<Ehehe... We should build a computer from discrete components, just to <operate one. And connect it to the Internet. Of course, we'd never <finish in out lifetimes, and it would fill a room, but it would be awful <cool! It's been done and it didn't take lifetime or fill rooms. The machines were called LINC and they were built in 1964 time frame. Granted the internet part would take a bit longer. Over the years many home made machine not microprocessor based have been built. It is an undertaking but it's not anywhere near impossible. In reality using moden methods and current discrete parts a better and smaller machine could be built. Allison

28 years, 5 months

This is great!

by dseagrav＠bsdserver.tek-star.net

NS if this is true or not, but it's funny! The system programmer group writing TOPS-10 use to love fancy TECO programs and had a weekly contest for them. One guru working on FORTRAN compilers would read them carefully but never enter one. They thought he was just concentrating on compilers. Then one week he submitted a macro that did FORTRAN compilation, complete with optimization. The TECO program took days to run, but it worked. Apparently he had written a PDP-10 instruction set eumlator in TECO and fed the compiler into it!

28 years, 5 months

VAXstation II tapes

by healyzh＠ix.netcom.com

Hi, I seem to have a problem. I just got a VAXstation II, and it came with a whole box of TK50-K tapes. I've a bad feeling that these are blank tapes though, double bad since I'm suspecting that the system needs to be reloaded. I'll give a detailed writeup of the problems I'm having later on (I forgot to make notes when I had it powered up). The only identificaton on any of the tapes is a small white label with numbers on it. Some of the numbers on each tape are printed, others hand written. I've a bad feeling that these are simply backup tapes, in which case I don't know if they'll do me any good or not. The other possibility is that they are for something called "RS/1". If anyone can tell me what these are I'd appreciate it. Printed Hand Written ------- ------------------ 525810 5-0-0 41 525865 6-0-0 (a crossed out 96 with 117 under it) 525869 19-0-1 21 525871 10-1-0 23 525952 9-0-0 81 525959 1-0-0 70 525993 9-0-1 75 526044 23-2-0 57 Since I assume these aren't the VMS distribution tapes, does anyone know how I can get them? I'm aware of the Hobbiest License for OpenVMS, but I think it's to new of a version to run on my VAXstation II/RC. There is also the problem with the Hobbiest version of it comes on CD-ROM. All the OS manuals that I've got are for MicroVMS/VMS 4.4 Zane | Zane H. Healy | UNIX Systems Adminstrator | | healyzh(a)ix.netcom.com (primary) | Linux Enthusiast | | healyzh(a)holonet.net (alternate) | Classic Computer Collector | +----------------------------------+----------------------------+ | For Empire of the Petal Throne and Traveller Role Playing, | | see http://www.dragonfire.net/~healyzh/ | | For the collecting of Classic Computers with info on them. | | see http://www.dragonfire.net/~healyzh/museum.html |

28 years, 5 months

BA23 termination.

by dseagrav＠bsdserver.tek-star.net

Does the BA23 have a bus terminator in it or something? I just noticed that neither of these (11/73 or 11/83) have Qbus terminators.

28 years, 5 months

DEC Rainbow

by foxvideo＠wincom.net

I just bought a DEC Rainbow, does anyone have any idea where I can get a boot disk for it? Thanks Charlie Fox

28 years, 5 months

Auction - Apple Service Parts and a Modem

by gmast＠polymail.cpunix.calpoly.edu

Hello, This is the last of the Apple service parts I have. They're on the auction at eBay so please bid there. Apple IIc Floppy Drive (New in Box!) Bidding starts at: $1.00 Auction ends on: 11/13/97, 15:08:00 PST http://komodo.ebay2.com/aw-cgi/ItemISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1751182 Macintosh SE Main Logic Board (New in Box!) Bidding starts at: $1.00 Auction ends on: 11/13/97, 15:12:56 PST http://komodo.ebay2.com/aw-cgi/ItemISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1751290 Apple Imagewriter II CPU Board (Orig Box!) Current bid: $1.00 Auction ends on: 11/13/97, 15:16:50 PST http://komodo.ebay2.com/aw-cgi/ItemISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1751366 Mac II Power Supply (Orig Box!) Current bid: $5.50 Auction ends on: 11/13/97, 15:19:27 PST http://komodo.ebay2.com/aw-cgi/ItemISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1751413 Laserwriter II DC Power Supply (Orig Box!) Bidding starts at: $1.00 Auction ends on: 11/13/97, 15:21:57 PST http://komodo.ebay2.com/aw-cgi/ItemISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1751470 Apple Modem 1200 (1982, Original Box) Pic Bidding starts at: $3.00 Auction ends on: 11/14/97, 18:08:07 PST http://komodo.ebay2.com/aw-cgi/ItemISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1787149

28 years, 5 months

PC/AT reference

by sinasohn＠ricochet.net

At 06:33 PM 11/6/97 -0500, you wrote: >I wonder how many non - PC compatibles have used Intel 8088 or 8086 chips. I >have heard of a machine called an "ACT Apricot", which is said to have had >voice recognition and a GUI. Could someone tell me about it and others? My >reasoning is that there are lots of neat things that could be done on an >8088, but not with a DOS system. One of the first computer jobs I had was running* a CompuPro 8/16 under MP/M-16(?). It was an S-100 box with 5 or so terminals. I forget what it originally had as a processor but we upgraded shortly after I arrived to a 80286/8085 dual processor CPU board. *Note: this system was so rock solid and self-sustaining that I'm grossly exagerating here. I wrote some programs, did some data entry, and turned it on/shut it down. Piece of cake. P.S., I stumbled across a site that might offer insight into this question. It's at <http://www.mygale.org/08/samurai/> and offers a listing of computers by microprocessor (as well as other ways). Only problem is it's in french. 8^) --------------------------------------------------------------------- O- Uncle Roger "There is pleasure pure in being mad sinasohn(a)ricochet.net that none but madmen know." Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates San Francisco, California http://www.crl.com/~sinasohn/

28 years, 5 months

Here's the QD21 Manual

by mcquiggi＠sfu.ca

Hi Daniel: Attached is the QD21 manual in a gzipped tar archive format. If you need ASCII I'll resend it. Kevin At 10:52 AM 97/11/08 -0600, you wrote: >On Sat, 8 Nov 1997, Kevin McQuiggin wrote: > >> Yep, you need one. You can use a standard PC cable and ignore the twisted >> connector, or simply cut and resolder the twisted portion. This works for me. > >I already have a straight-through. > >> >> Here's the plan. Get the drive specs from the IBM web site (this will be >> tough, their sites are, in my experience, very hard to navigate), and grab >> a copy of the QD21 manual that explains each of the required parameters. >> There are copies available online, I can email it to you if necessary. >> > >Email would be good, I've tried looking for the manual but had no luck >finding it. > >> Boot your machine to the chevron prompt, then start up the QD21 firmware. >> Hopefully you'll have the "newer" menu driven version, if not then you'll >> have to set up some tables in memory as described in the manual. >> > >I do have the menus. I can get that far. > >> The QD21 has a "read disk parameters from device" setting, I'd try that >> first to see if it works for your drive. I've have mixed success with >> non-DEC drives on this one. If it works then you're away to the races, just >> format from the QD21 menus and then INIT DUxx from VMS or whatever's on >> your VAX. > >VAX? The QD21 is in a PDP-11/23+. > >> >> If not then you'll have to enter a bunch of parameters from the drive >> specs, plus some that you can calculate from the specs as stated in the >> manual. >> > >OK > >> The drive select jumper on the drive must generally be set to "drive select >> 2". If you're getting no response this may be the problem. The cable must >> not be of the twisted variety. Make sure your cable polarity is right, etc. >> etc. >> >> I have had success with IBM ESDI drives and the QD21, just keep fiddling >> and you'll get it going! > >That's the usual plan... > >> I hope this helps, > >If you really have the manual, it will! > > > >

28 years, 5 months

Huh?!

by kyrrin2＠wizards.net

At 00:02 08-11-97 PST, Tim Shoppa intoned (in response to Dan Seagraves): >I'm going to make a guess that you're talking about DEC RX33 (5.25" >half-height drives) or DEC RX50 drives (two 5.25" drives in a full-height >5.25" form factor) hooked to a RQDX3 controller. If you can specify >that you're talking about one or the other, you'll get more specific >answers :-) <snip> >A RQDX3 is incapable of formatting RX50 floppies, but it is capable <snip> Excuse me, but this does not make sense to me. I have an RX50 and RQDX3 in my MicroVAX II, and it is perfectly happy formatting RX50 floppies. How do you think I got that wonderful tape copying program onto the hard drive? ;-) For my part, Tim, I'd be very disappointed if you unsubscribed from the list. I value your insights very much. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Bruce Lane, Sysop, The Dragon's Cave BBS (Fidonet 1:343/272) (Hamateur: WD6EOS) (E-mail: kyrrin2(a)wizards.net) http://www.wizards.net/technoid "Our science can only describe an object, event, or living thing in our own human terms. It cannot, in any way, define any of them..."

28 years, 5 months

Classic Computer Rescue Squad

by allisonp＠world.std.com

<> Ok, first of all I'm pretty amazed at the 3rd grade level of <> mentality being demonstrated by the whiners complaining about my <> "foul" language. Sam, it's not a big thing but there are a few women and I for one really don't like it. I'm no prude and there are time I can turn the air blue but I try to avoid it unless there is pain associated with it. < There's more to a machine that makes it historically important <than how many were sold or produced. Was the STRETCH important (a <half dozen or so)? How about the PDP-10 (under a thousand)? Mass <marketing is not the gauge of importance, especially in a social <context. Remember - the individuals who designed the machines that <_were_ mass marketed were brought up knowing about computers, and <those machines most certainly weren't mass-market devices. I for one see the imporant machine as those that influenced the direction of computing. This could be by putting computers where they werent before or by introducing/solidifying a concept. IE: altair was importnat because it was relatively cheap. IE: the PC was impostant be cause IBMs entry in to the market that was dominated by TRS-80, APPLE and friends somehow ligitemized destop sized computer to the masses. < Whether Novas are "wanted" is immaterial to the argument. Folks are <now virtually unaware of a piece of history, and an important one at <that. It's also a piece of history that's fast disappearing, which is <a rotten shame. That is the point! < Do multi-thousand dollar speculative prices on Altairs make them <more "historic" or "valuable" than a PDP-5 (predecessor of the -8)? <There's more to be calculated into a "value" than the current market <price, which all too frequently is out of line with reality. People miss the Mark-8 (8008 based) that preceeded it by nearly a year. < Nope. Nobody did. That's one of the reasons I have respect for <the man. He knows machines worth saving, and is willing to take the <time and (not incosiderable) effort to do so. Right! To make a point there are few machines with much value other than history. Those that collect are like archiologists, few will discover the missing link but the rest will flesh out history surrounding it. It's that history, the society, hackers, scientists that are important. <> If the majority of kids in America had a picture of a Nova tacked to <> their wall, the newspapers might have run a story on one. < < Do you know who I'm speaking of? Hint: he designed one of the early <mass-market computers that you prize so highly. What's missed is many Novas were used in places like malls to make T-shirts with pictures on them (at least in the northeast). They were there on the bottom shelf doing it. This was at a time when altair, Imsai and apples were the thing. The altair... I have one. My opinion of the design is simple, it can serve well as an example of how not to do it. Allison

28 years, 5 months

Hard drive jumper settings required.

by photze＠batelco.com.bh

I'm not sure about the actual jumper settings, but if you have web access, I would check out http://www.computercraft.com for more info. They have everything from benchmarks to how to upgrade a 486. Ciao, Tim D. Hotze ---------- From: Daniel A. Seagraves <dseagrav(a)bsdserver.tek-star.net> To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> Subject: Hard drive jumper settings required. Date: Monday, November 03, 1997 4:44 PM I'm going to attach this to the QD21, so I need to reset the jumpers. IBM 115MB ESDI drive, type 0669, sequence # 104040108 There are 6 DIP switched behind the drive terminator. I'm told I have to use a straight-through cable, so I went and got one. The drive does nothing. With a crossover cable (Where the pins are crossed, a normal PC cable) it went click-clunk, click-clunk, and did nothing. The drive is known good. (I pulled it from a PS/2 which we upgraded to a SCSI drive) If anyone works at Advanced Technology Services, the drive came from Cat origionally and has the ATS sticker "ATS-444862" Another barcode on top of the drive by the air inlet says "B1AF3092241"

28 years, 5 months

Intergraph 250... KILLED!

by allisonp＠world.std.com

< I was at an auction last Saturday, and immediatly started to drool over <this beautiful piece of equipment. It was an Intergraph 250 (No, I have <never seen one before) and it look to be in excellent shape. It was about <top 7 feet wide, by about 3 feet deep, and 5 feet high, with a beautiful <blue and white finish. On one side, behind a large black panel, was four Sounds like a Intergraph/DEC 8650 or in that realm that was from the mid '80s. Intergraph would take DEC machines and add their stuff to it to make hopped up machines for their business applications. The drives were SMD and the controller was of Intergraph design. Nice machine and there are a bunch around in use. Allison

28 years, 5 months

M8190 Console SLU

by dseagrav＠bsdserver.tek-star.net

Is there a way to disable the M8190 console SLU so as to use another serial in it's place? The bulkhead adapter for the SLU has been cannabalized to fix another machine, and I want to get this one running. I have the DLV-11J that was in my 11/23, I plan to use it. Any ideas?

28 years, 5 months

Classic Computer Rescue Squad

by allisonp＠world.std.com

<> <Ever read, say, _Soul of a New Machine_? <> <> Good read, still have my copy! <> <Me too. But I've also got a hard-cover now! I was given mine when it was first releassed and is hard cover. <<This prompted me to dig up a Nov 81 copy of a mag called Datamation <whose feature article was a history of the Route 128 companies and a <companion piece "Rte128's new Wave Startups" which included Apollo, <Stratus, SOLV-vation, and the 'revamped"Charles River Data Systems.. <The push was on to 32bit and Data General was offering it"s <"brand-new" medium-priced supermini,the MV 6000 whose price was on Therein lies a peice of the story. From 79 to recent I and friends worked for companies involved in the 128 race. It's amazing how few are left and how different some are. < Another "cute" blurb, "CP/M-86 is the 16 bit version of the de facto <industry standard microcomputer operating system, CPM. Once a user <slips the 8-inch floppy containing CPM-86 into a (IBM) Displaywriter, <an entirely new world of data processing will open up on the typist's <desk." Sounds almost pornographic. ; ^ )) Call that a snapshot in time before the PC explosion. What I miss is hearing about Honeywell, RCA, Univac, Borroughs and Sperry to name a few here in the USA where it started. There are machines that were unique than and by standards now made by these companies. A example is the RCA machines from what little I know were patterned after the TX series of mit. I'd love to hear more. Allison

28 years, 5 months

Intergraph 250... KILLED!

by carl.friend＠stoneweb.com

On Sat, 08 Nov 1997 02:38:31 -0300, Mr. Richards made the following statements: > I have to tell you all about the sad fate of a beautiful machine. > [...] It was an Intergraph 250 [...] > I want to add to my misery by finding out exactly what it was, what > it's speed was, what it was comparable to. The brains of the machine were a MicroVAX II (KA630-AA). Disks were primarily Fujitsu 8" Winchester drives controlled by an Inter- graph proprietary controller called an "InterBus File Processor". A SCSI tape drive was standard on the 250, also of Fujitsu manufacture if I recall correctly. A nice enough little box, but hobbled for the hobbyist community by the proprietary controller for which no schematics of firmware listings will _ever_ be available from Intergraph. ______________________________________________________________________ | | | | Carl Richard Friend (UNIX Sysadmin) | West Boylston | | Minicomputer Collector / Enthusiast | Massachusetts, USA | | mailto:carl.friend@stoneweb.com | | | http://www.ultranet.com/~engelbrt/carl/museum | ICBM: N42:22 W71:47 | |________________________________________________|_____________________|

28 years, 5 months

CP/M for Osborne-1

by Anthony.Eros＠digital.com

I picked up an Osborne-1 last night, but no software. Is anyone willing to cut me a copy of some 5 1/4" CP/M operating system and utility disks? I'd gladly replace the disks supplied... Thanks in advance, -- Tony Eros Internet Consultant - Financial/Pharma Services Practice Digital Equipment Corporation

28 years, 5 months

Space problems and Laser 128ex

by alanr＠morgan.ucs.mun.ca

I wondering if anyone had any info on the Laser 128ex. I lugged an EGA monitor to a friend of mine this week with the intentions of trading it for a couple of hard drives, as I really need to clear some space (two bedroom apartment, and I'm sleeping on a loveseat in the living room). Anyway, when I got down there, I noticed the Laser on a shelf. I have never heard of this machione before, so of course I had to have it right then and there :) It resembles an Apple//c in layout; CPU, keyboard and 5 1/4" floppy in one unit. As a bonus, the power supply I got with it also fits, my Apple//c. I also noticed that on the bottom, there is a switch for LCD screen. The similarities between this and the Apple makes me wonder if this wasn't some sort of copy. Does anyone have any ideas about this machine, specificaly I would like to know how to break into the BASIC. On the Apple, I press CRTL and reset, but this doesn't work on the Laser. I would appreciate any help. Thanks in advance... ---------------------------------------------------------------- ______________________________________________Live from the GLRS The Man From D.A.D ----------------------------------------------------------------

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