Hello.... I've found a PS/2 with a 386SX 20 processor, etc. but it has no
battery. The person that has it says that "he doesn't have a battery, and
damage is expected." does anyone have a spare that they could trade or sell?
About how long does a battery last, how much time, and what kind of damage
is likely? (I'm thinking LCD-screen)
Thanks,
Tim D. Hotze
OK, for those of you that have been waiting for an opportunity to get
a VS2000, here it is -- if you happen to be near the New York area. ;-)
Please reply TO THE ORIGINAL AUTHOR, not to me. I'm just forwarding
what I found on Usenet.
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Subject: VS2000: Free in NYC
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Vaxstation 2000
Configuration questionable. Booted when I put it into storage.
Running some version of VMS. HD/RAM?
Some cables. Probably not all of them. Keyboard if I can find it. Big
(19")
greyscale monitor too. No manuals.
Also an AT&T 3b2/310, if anyone wants it.
Both 100% FREE in Queens (near #7 line) NYC, if you pick them up.
Not interested in shipping them or cash offers. If nobody picks them up by
1/31, they go in the trash. First come, first served.
If interested, email edel(a)best.com BEFORE 1/2 or
Nathan.K.Edel(a)dartmouth.edu
after 1/3
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Hello, all:
I got a Kodak digital camera for Christmas, and I was suprised at the
quality of the pictures. But, I anticipate lousy battery life from repeated
downloading, picture taking, etc.
The docs say that I can use a Mac Powerbook 140/170 AC adapter to power
it. Does anyone have a spare that they can sell me?
TIA!
Rich Cini/WUGNET
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ClubWin! Charter Member (6)
MCP Windows 95/Windows Networking
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<that a PC drive could eat its children before 360k became standard. I
<don't know enough about head technology, though I assume that the head
It's littly to do heads ot specific systems. *ALL* drive before the
3.5" sony standard were capable of the dasterdly deed.
Reason, the line known as write enable not. This is an active
low(ground) line and when power went you had the head in contact,
some power and a command to write a logical transistion at that point...
BANZAI!!! Some systems were better in they would lock out write commands
if power were failing (assuming both used the same power.). My NS* has
such a mod and it's allowed me to avoid early bit disks! It's fairly
trivial to put in a system where the drive and all run off the same
power supply/switch. The TRS-80 and like systems were prone due to each
being seperately powered. FYI the safest was powering off the drive
first.
FYI: for a while I was using 360k drive on non-PC and the risk was
always there, unless hardware prevented it external to the drive.
The 3.5" drives put power fail on the drive avoiding all the pain.
Allison
> I recall a warning about the datadrives or the Adam in general: don't
> turn on the Adam with a datatape in the drive, the drive will send out a
> pulse that may damage data stored on the part of the tape next to the
> write head (some said up to a few feet away, I don't know about
> that...:/ )
I remember my heathkit (H-89) had a similar warning about starting up with
a disk in the drive.
> How do you get in the cmos on a Grid 1660????
>
> Some body brought it to me and said it could not find A drive and when I
looked it had 5 drives A.C.D.F.H. And when I got rid of H drive it took
the Operating files with it. now I got disk error and I want to get into
cmos to see if I can format the drive and start from scratch.
When all else fails I use an old (Packard Bell!) 286 setup program that
seems to work most of the time. Won't work on nonstandard HDD tables,
though.
manney
> <I remember my heathkit (H-89) had a similar warning about starting up w
> <a disk in the drive.
>
> This is generally true for most everything but 3.5" floppy disks,
> TU58 dectape and harddisks(there are exceptions).
How 'bout CD-ROM's? <g>
Don't DARE plug that drive into a //c!!! I did it once (not with my own ones
:) and it fried the //c, leaving the drive intact (I think).
Original:
>seen one quite like this. it's a bit smaller than the apple 3.5 drive, and
>doesnt have the stripes molded in and does not have an eject button either,
>only the hole to push a paper clip wire in. can this drive be used on a //c
or
>similar?
As far as I know the 800k Apple drive you have described can only be used
on a Mac Plus or better. Or a modified 512k. I really doubt that it will
work with a //c. I could be wrong...
<> I recall a warning about the datadrives or the Adam in general: don
<> turn on the Adam with a datatape in the drive, the drive will send ou
<> pulse that may damage data stored on the part of the tape next to th
<> write head (some said up to a few feet away, I don't know about
<> that...:/ )
<
<I remember my heathkit (H-89) had a similar warning about starting up w
<a disk in the drive.
This is generally true for most everything but 3.5" floppy disks,
TU58 dectape and harddisks(there are exceptions).
Allison
At 05:39 PM 12/23/97 -0500, you wrote:
>I'm looking at picking up an Olivetti M10, but I don't know too much about
>this one. I'm told that it has neither a floppy nor a hard drive. Can
>someone enlighten me, or at least point me in right direction for more
>information?
If I'm not mistaken (and I might be) the M10 is one of the family that
includes the RS model 100, NEC 8201a, a Kyocera (I forget the model #, but K
made 'em all) and one or two others.
No floppy, what's a hard drive?, but eminently useful and probably one of
the rarer machines in the family. iirc, it had a pop-up screen, which none
of the others had.
Actually, it's an evil piece of garbage, and you should send it to me right
away. Don't hesitate, your life could be at stake! 8^)
--------------------------------------------------------------------- O-
Uncle Roger "There is pleasure pure in being mad
roger(a)sinasohn.com that none but madmen know."
Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates
San Francisco, California http://www.crl.com/~sinasohn/
Adam wrote:
> Someone near Sydney just offered me a pile of stuff, mostly old pc/xt bits.
> But in amongst it all was a Commodore 8296-d and a Sharp 1700. I imagine
> the Sharp is one of the plamtop models they produced, rather than the more
> laptop style Sharp PC-5000 - is this the case? And the Commodore I guess
> to be an 8286 with a typing mistake, and thus merely a MS-DOS clone. COuld
> someone please confirm this for me?
No, 8296 is a very late PET. I have three of them, but one lacks a
keyboard. Good old PET 8000 series architecture, although I'm told some
have a later version of BASIC. 128k of memory, but I think you can only
get at 96k + screen.
The 8296-D was the built in disk drive model. Twin floppies, DSQD, on
the GPIB internally. Uses a later version of the Commodore DOS software
than I have docs for :-( (Commodore disk drives all had a CPU in the
drive unit that ran a system they called DOS and communicated with the
system unit over the GPIB or the later VIC/64 interface)
My advice to you: GRAB IT!!!!!!!
Philip.
PS I once found an 8296D in the skip at work. I asked to buy it and was
told officially no, not safe, PSU is playing up but unofficially I could
grab a few parts if need be. I did and upgraded my (then only) 8296 to
the D spec. It cost me _more_ to do the upgrade than it would have to
repair the original machine. I was not pleased...
Someone near Sydney just offered me a pile of stuff, mostly old pc/xt bits.
But in amongst it all was a Commodore 8296-d and a Sharp 1700. I imagine
the Sharp is one of the plamtop models they produced, rather than the more
laptop style Sharp PC-5000 - is this the case? And the Commodore I guess
to be an 8286 with a typing mistake, and thus merely a MS-DOS clone. COuld
someone please confirm this for me?
Thanks heaps,
Adam.
At 08:20 PM 12/23/97 -0800, you wrote:
>As far as I know the 800k Apple drive you have described can only be used
>on a Mac Plus or better. Or a modified 512k. I really doubt that it will
>work with a //c. I could be wrong...
I had my Apple 800k running on my 512k, which started out as a 128k.
- John Higginbotham
- limbo.netpath.net
I picked up two macs today for $15 total.
the first one is a mac 512 and the second is a mac+ 1meg. both are missing
their mouses but they do work just fine. I also got two external 800k
floppies. One is called mirror magnum 800, but doesnt recognize a working
floppy. the second one is called an apple external 800 drive, but i've never
seen one quite like this. it's a bit smaller than the apple 3.5 drive, and
doesnt have the stripes molded in and does not have an eject button either,
only the hole to push a paper clip wire in. can this drive be used on a //c or
similar? current plans for these macs will be to take the best parts of two
512k macs and make one good one with the remainder going to my brother for a
macquarium project. <!> I already own a platinum colour se and this one i just
got is a 1meg beige colour se. is there any significant differences between
these two se models?
david
At 04:55 PM 12/23/97 -0500, you wrote:
>How do you get in the cmos on a Grid 1660????
>
>Some body brought it to me and said it could not find A drive and when I
looked it had 5 drives A.C.D.F.H. And when I got rid of H drive it took the
Operating files with it. now I got disk error and I want to get into cmos to
see if I can format the drive and start from scratch.
Hold in the "F" key while booting. You'll then be able to boot off a disk in
drive A.
- John Higginbotham
- limbo.netpath.net
I'm looking at picking up an Olivetti M10, but I don't know too much about
this one. I'm told that it has neither a floppy nor a hard drive. Can
someone enlighten me, or at least point me in right direction for more
information?
Thanks,
Cliff Gregory
cgregory(a)lrbcg.com
> PG Manney wrote:
>
> > Small belts are available -- there's a company in NJ (Winifred M. Berg)
> > that specializes in small stuff. I can dig up the address for you if
you
> > want.
>
> Yes please! Although ordering all the way from the US is a last
resort...
>
> Philip.
http://www.wmberg.com/ or 516-599-5010
(800-232-BERG in the US)
manney(a)nwohio.com
> Thanks for letting us know! Yes, Christmas is on everyone's minds
> right now but more importantly, HAVE FUN AT IT especially at
> christmas day!
Sorta like the little kid who got the "Our Father" prayer slightly wrong
..."Forgive us our Christmasses..." he prayed.
Christmas is hectic for me, 'cause I run a store.
manney
How do you get in the cmos on a Grid 1660????
Some body brought it to me and said it could not find A drive and when I looked it had 5 drives A.C.D.F.H. And when I got rid of H drive it took the Operating files with it. now I got disk error and I want to get into cmos to see if I can format the drive and start from scratch.
<My VAX is working! And it talks TCP/IP!
<DNS is out, but I can send mail (by telnetting to port 25 of the mailse
WHat OS, what IP software?
What kind of vax? An ever curious vax user.
Allison
I saw one of those at the UW-Madison surplus sale a few weeks ago,
at a similar price, but passed it up. It looked like an A/D box of
some kind, I too saw the apple logo and wondered if it wasn't for
the Apple II era - Isaac Newton, get it? I definitely saw A/D converter
chips in there, maybe they were on the expansion cards. No CPU necessary,
it could be driven by TTL logic if it was just spitting data.
- John
Jefferson Computer Museum <http://www.threedee.com/jcm>
Many thanks to all who responded with advice, part numbers etc. I have
passed the part numbers on to my colleague - I shall try Don Maslin's
suggestions for a web search next.
Joe Rigdon (?) wrote:
> I have access to a HP-85 repair manual. I can get the HP part number for
> the belts, but I doubt they're available anymore. I have a couple of -85s.
> I'll open them up and see what size belt they take. I probably won't be
> able to do either one until next week.
I think I have an 85 as well - in fact I know I do (somewhere) - I must
look and see what state the belts are in, and if I can measure them...
If not some measurements off yours would be very useful.
PG Manney wrote:
> Small belts are available -- there's a company in NJ (Winifred M. Berg)
> that specializes in small stuff. I can dig up the address for you if you
> want.
Yes please! Although ordering all the way from the US is a last resort...
Philip.
At 06:14 PM 12/22/97 -0800, you wrote:
> The Adam did have some expansion beyond the second datadrive you could
>get a disk drive controller to hook in an external drive.
You could even go with an IDE hard disk and 2400 baud modem if you could
find them.
>pulse that may damage data stored on the part of the tape next to the
>write head (some said up to a few feet away, I don't know about
>that...:/ )
That part is totally true. It was aggravating trying to remember to take the
tapes out. I ended up ruining 1 or 2 that way.
- John Higginbotham
- limbo.netpath.net
