In a message dated 98-01-14 22:46:14 EST, you write:
<< Where did the following terms come from?
-Dongle
-Byte (named after nybble, or vice-versa?)
-Mainframe (Why not just...like..you know...call it a computer?)
-DB (as in DB-15, 25) I've also heard them called D-sub xx)
-Mouse >>
well, i'm sure we've all heard of how the story of how the dongle got it's
name. at least the version i heard is that the "thing" was created by a
character called Don Gall, and the name came forth from that. Sometimes i'll
tell the story at work, and have almost gotten several people to believe it.
lol.
david
If the price is too low then the item is not bought, if it is too high then
there is some magin to negociate with the seller. I've almost never paid the
asking price for anything (unless bought in a store) but usually hamfests
garage sales and flea markets are pretty flexible.
Let's say that I am looking for machine X and my max for it is $22, if you
find one for $25 it is possible to negotiate. Or we could set a price range.
Then there is the shipping, if I go to a hamfest with a list of 25 machines
that others are looking for and find let's say 7, they won't fit in my car
for one thing (I'll probably by stuff for me too;), and I have to package
them all and ship them etc...
Like I said I was only thinking about it. It may be feasible for a small
group of people but I don't think it could be open to all. (no
discriminations intended just practical stuff)
Anyways I believe that it is possible but you have to trust the people you
work with and limit the wishlist.
>The problem with this is determining how much one wants to pay for a
>particular system. You have to make sure in advance you know everyone's
>limit. Some people may not know what a reasonable price is, and may
>over-pay or put an unreasonable low limit on something they might want.
>
>Sam Alternate e-mail:
dastar(a)siconic.com
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>>How much did it go for? Just curious.
>
>$100
>
>if I were a rich man...
Funny I paid 100FF for mine (that's about $18)
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>
>>>I would not be suprised if IBM had a travel case.
>>
>>I thought someone here said they didn't?
>
> I said they didn't but I don't know that for certain. I can find out
>though.
>
> Joe
>>
I did find out. IBM did offer a travel case for the IBM 5100. It was
feature code # 1501.
Joe
>
>
if this happens, count me in. there's plenty of radio rallies coming up in nc
in the spring.
In a message dated 98-01-14 21:49:23 EST, you write:
<< That's no problem I can wait to complete my collection.
Actually I was thinking of starting a collector buying ring: Everybody going
to a hamfest or thing like that let the other ones know and take orders.
That way we can get machines that were not too popular in an area.
Thanks for the help.
>I'm in Orlando, Florida. I've added your list to my wish list. There
>are several hamfests coming up soon. I'll see what I can find, but it may
>take some time.
>
> Joe >>
> The reels are amazing - the film was about
> 3 inches (70 mm?) wide,
Yes. Standard film width (altho' a lot is done on 35mm nowadays, due to
improved film. 70mm is for when a lot of special effects are needed.)
That's where Leica came up with 35mm, btw -- they cut 70mm cine film in
half.
I can make a copy for you for the cost of shipping.
>So, I'm looking for information on, or a set of manuals for a
>Sony/Tektronix Model 308 data analyzer.
>
>Thanks
>-jim
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At 09:36 PM 1/13/98 -0600, you wrote:
>MAC toaster style Handle (yes on top of the unit)(Oops does that make it a
>portable?)
Actually, an excellent point -- if the IBM 5100 is a portable, then, so too
is the compact mac? Even more so I would think (what with the considerably
lesser weight and addition of a handle?)
In case y'all haven't guessed, I'm strongly against the idea of the IBM 5100
being considered the first portable computer. 8^)
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this PS/2E is a desktop machine, but in a very small form factor, a bit bigger
and thicker than a modern laptop. it's a isa bus machine with one slot that is
used for the pcmcia adaptor. it was supposed to be marketed with an lcd, but
i've never seen one. the owner's manual shows it. with the two that i got,
they came with original boxes, documentation and disks and even a never opened
copy of pcdos 5.0! the good thing about ps2 machines is that not many know
about them. the seller thought they were no good and sold at a cheap price.
the first needed its passwoid jumper reset and the second machine's floppy
drive cable wasnt connected good causing a 165 post and wouldnt boot from the
start disk for a reconfig. it was still under warranty, so i just called in
where i worked, and had a floppy drive sent out under warranty. the machines
also have the keyboard with the mouse pointing stick built in which i like. i
gave one to my brother and the other i'm keeping. win95 not supported though,
but os2 2.1 and dos/win work fine. once i figure out pcmcia stuff, i plan to
ethernet it to the two modern wintel machines i have going now. it has power
management built in, and even locks in pcmcia cards for security. like most
ps2 machines, also has xga built in.
In a message dated 98-01-14 18:11:47 EST, you write:
<< A quick questions: Is that one of the "first Green Energy pc
version" in a notebook sized tiny black box with a flat display
panel? Well, we got excited over it but it was so weird and that
weak 486SLC 33 cpu, I do have similar chip on a tiny motherboard by
cyrix and it's dreadful slow even in DOOM, I had to keep it under
half the size compared to my Luddite it did well one or two step
above half way size o/c'ed to 25mhz and 4-way 4k cache enabled. But
I did not remember this PS/2E cpu speed do you have the mhz speed?
To have it that costs you 30 bux each for only about 5 years old
thing, that is pretty lucky. What did you got with this pc in this
deal? Funny, this Luddite is LTE 386s/20 sold as discontiuned in
that '93 because you brought this year up reminded me. This notebook
was first announced around early '92 or late '91. This notebook is
still in use and sells around 100 to 200 with some s/w and stuff
thrown in.
Jason D.
>>
A new tool acquisition, but as is often the case, no docs...
So, I'm looking for information on, or a set of manuals for a
Sony/Tektronix Model 308 data analyzer.
Thanks
-jim
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>>:) )and Power supply (220v :( )I would be interested in finding a US power
>>supply as I don't think the machine can run for very long on the 10
alkaline
>>bateries.
>
>Me too. I would think a generic ps from Radio Shack would work, but since
I
>haven't tried that I dunno...
The PS says output 13V 1.9A (Ouch...) I don't think it is that standard.
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I plugged my reader into my PC, set it for 2400 baud, and pushed READ.
*WHIRR!* Big mess on the floor! We try this again at 300 baud, (Where
I can catch the tape as it comes out) and it works fine. For the source
tapes. When I assign PTR: to my new tape under E11 2.0, and boot, it
says ?INVALID FORMAT or something along those lines...
But I can read them! Takes about 15 minutes to read in a 1.5" thick tape.
But, I should have images of all the tapes shortly...
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I found a non-working Osborne computer at a scrap dealers. I tried to
test it but no lights came on or drives moved so I suspect a power supply
problem. It's probably fixable without too much trouble. There is a
similar one for sale on Auction Web. You can see pictures of it there
"http://iguana.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4212123". The
dealer wants $20 plus shipping. Anyone interested in it?
Joe
At 11:29 PM 1/13/98 -0500, you wrote:
>I used mine NASA-style sometimes: Velcro'd to any flat surface. Slight
>change of subject: Does anyone know exactly what the first laptop to
>accompany shuttle astronauts into space was? I hear it's the GRiD Compass
>1100. I had that very model up until last week when I traded for a GRiD
I've been told that the m100 is one of two commercially produced computers
certified for use on the shuttle. Never heard what the other was, but
perhaps it's the grid?
>GRiDSPeC Page: http://limbo.netpath.net/hw/GRiD
See <http://www.mint.net/grid/> (I know you probably know about it, but
others mightn't.)
(P.S. heard back from Ryan; he left my stuff with a friend to ship it when
he moved, and the friend didn't. Meanwhile, he's stuck in the ice storms
without power/heat/'net. At least its not lost!)
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At 09:48 PM 1/13/98 -0500, you wrote:
>> I think it's only portable in comparison to the mainframes of the time --
[...]
>> that's really enough. You wouldn't have really taken it home to finish up
>> or to a client's office to do an audit.
>
>Why not? In fact, my unit traveled around Chicago for the movie theaters.
>It would be very reasonable to get a nice fibreglass or aluminum transit
>case made that would protect the screen.
Well, I suppose it's possible (I mean, there are still a lot of wierdos out
there who haven't upgraded to Win95! 8^) but I can't go for it. I think
we'll have to agree to disagree.
Of course, this means I need one for my collection, so I can show folks what
some people think is a portable computer... Wanna send me yours? 8^)
>I would not be suprised if IBM had a travel case.
I thought someone here said they didn't?
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I own a grid laptop; a compass II 1129 to be exact. I got if from my brother
who claimed it came from some nasa engineer and the computer played some major
part in shape shuttle flight/development or whatever. mine works fine, and
even has some apps in some extra roms. it's not much of a portable machine
though because it still has to run on ac power. gotta love the bouncing balls
screen saver though!
In a message dated 98-01-13 23:31:20 EST, you write:
<< I used mine NASA-style sometimes: Velcro'd to any flat surface. Slight
change of subject: Does anyone know exactly what the first laptop to
accompany shuttle astronauts into space was? I hear it's the GRiD Compass
1100. I had that very model up until last week when I traded for a GRiD
1535exp w/docking tray.
Speaking of GRiDs, any people out there collect them or am I alone? I've
made GRiDs my collection specialty since they're small, tough and stackable.
GRiDSPeC Page: http://limbo.netpath.net/hw/GRiD
>>
Dunno if my message got out before netscrap died...
FOr the web page:
Gridpad 1910 power supply:
Part No. 106286-00
Input: AC 100v - 240v ~
50/60 Hz 1.0a
Output: 17.25v .-. 2.0a
+ -o)- -
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<Yeah, I remember bubble memory. It seems like Fujitsu actually got
<to work halfway decent. Despite the cost and speed limitations,
Intel manufactured 1mb and 4mb parts with control chips. The BPK72
was the 1mb part on a card with all the control to make a 128k storage
system. I have two, bought in '85. they still owrk and have proven quite
rugged too.
<instrument controllers. SLow, expensive, but for awhile it was about
<all you could use for mass storage in certain hostile environments.
I used them in cpm based systems and they are faster than floppy on
average. The byte transfer rate is slower but the seek time is real
fast. They work well. AS to cost they compared well with floppy
systems of the time considering they were able to take shock and
vibration.
Allison
At 11:01 PM 1/13/98 -0500, you wrote:
>You shouldn't have oughta done that. ;-) Calling me microspooge is
>frighten words. Oh heavens the lost data.
I'm sorry! It won't happen again! For penance, I will not use my Portfolio
(Dip-DOS, not MS-DOS) for 24 hours, and no Freecell for 3 days. 8^)
Hail Gary, full of genius, the code is with thee. Blessed art though among
programmers, and blessed is the fruit of thy labor, CP/M. Holy Gary, father
of CP/M, pray for us sinners, now and at the hour of our disk crash.
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At 09:53 PM 1/13/98 -0600, you wrote:
>>btw, there was another PPC640 that sold on eBay this weekend, but it was
>>complete, with power supplies, software, and a really neat case. I didn't
>>get it, though. 8^(
>
>How much did it go for? Just curious.
$100
if I were a rich man...
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At 09:42 PM 1/13/98 -0600, you wrote:
>I have the complete set on mine: software neat case, manual (in French
And where do you live? 8^)
>:) )and Power supply (220v :( )I would be interested in finding a US power
>supply as I don't think the machine can run for very long on the 10 alkaline
>bateries.
Me too. I would think a generic ps from Radio Shack would work, but since I
haven't tried that I dunno...
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