Nope I have no idea of the type of drives that are installed in there.
If you salvage it I would be interested in some parts (one of the keyboard
latches on mine is broken and I would like to replace it)
Let me know.
Thanks.
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From: Joe <rigdonj(a)intellistar.net>
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
Date: Friday, January 16, 1998 11:08 PM
Subject: Re: Anybody want an Osborne?
>Francois,
>
> Well I got the Osborne. It turns out that the dealer had to move and had
>to get rid of a bunch of stuff so he was a lot more reasonable on his
>prices. I haven't had time to do anything with it yet. I probably won't
>for a few days. BTW Do you know what kind on drives are in there? They
>look like they might be some of the old Shugart SA 400s. If so I can
>probably use them to restore my old Altair. It has a disk controller for
>the SA 400s but the drives are long gone.
>
> Joe
>
-----Original Message-----
From: Uncle Roger <sinasohn(a)ricochet.net>
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
Date: Friday, January 16, 1998 9:49 PM
Subject: Re: What I did this weekend
>At 01:17 PM 1/15/98, you wrote:
>>
>>
>>At 11:48 AM 1/15/98 -0600, you wrote:
>>>Tat goes without saying: placing a machine in a want list is also an
>>>engagement to purchase it. Otherwise the system would not work for too
long.
>
>Things "that go without saying" are usually what screw up the system.
>Things like that are best said up front. Better to have someone say "well,
>duh" then to have someone get stiffed.
>
I meant that it goes without saying in the scope of this discussion.
Otherwise yes we would need well planned rules.
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I saw this label on an IBM monitor in a thrift shop the other day and I
thought some of you guys might get a kick out of it. It read:
USE OF THIS DEVICE IS RESTRICTED TO IBM
MANAGEMENT APPROVED PURPOSES ONLY
and they even had a policy number for this mandate: Z229-0444-00
Beauracracy at it's finest.
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Hi,
I picked more stuff today and found some DEC hard drives in the pile.
Can anyone tell me what size they are and what machines they're for? I
*think* they may be out of a Vax, but that's a guess.
They're all full height 5 1/4" drives and they weigh a ton. The first one
is marked "digital RZ55" and has a sticker that says "1041080-08-9" and it
appears to have a SCSI interface. The second one appears to have a ST-506
interface and is a Maxtor drive and is marked "RD54-A" and "30-26245-01"
and "RQDX 3".
I also picked up a couple of keyboards that I think might be for a DEC.
The first one is a large keyboard marked "TS 803". It has 16 Pf keys along
the top and a separate numeric keypad. It's gray on top and white on the
bottom. The second keyboard is from digital and is a model LK 201. Doe
anyone know which machine it's for?
Joe
If you can get just the video loopback connector I'll be interested, one of
mine is missing it and I would like to replace it with an original.
thanks for the post.
> I found a non-working Osborne computer at a scrap dealers. I tried to
>test it but no lights came on or drives moved so I suspect a power supply
>problem. It's probably fixable without too much trouble. There is a
>similar one for sale on Auction Web. You can see pictures of it there
>"http://iguana.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4212123". The
>dealer wants $20 plus shipping. Anyone interested in it?
>
> Joe
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Yes it is a PC compatible -- it's an XT. I suppose the DD referred to
Double Disk, but I pulled the second floppy to install the hard drive.
It's a peculiar, many-screwed, (phenolic?) plastic case.
manney(a)nwohio.com
OK I'll get an EE to help me out. Did you ever used that with a monitor? is
the 60 Hz vs 50 Hz a problem?
>When I went to the US recently, I built my own 110/220V converter. I
>found a small (10VA) transformer that had dual 120V primaries and wired
>these as an autotransformer. Boxed it up in small wooden box and Bob's
>your uncle.
>
>PS If you can't work out how to do it from the above, don't try it
>yourself, get someone with some more electrical knowledge :-)
>
>Philip.
At 01:59 AM 1/14/98 +0000, you wrote:
>And, hey, all portable *ARE* bulky anyway even my Luddite is very
Not all portables are bulky -- m100, portfolio, Geneva, Starlet, etc. all
come to mind.
>thick and heavy. Even the T1000 early one is clusmy too.
But nowhere like the 5100.
>My opinion is that IBM 5100 is the winner for most heaviest and
>unprotected portable. Even modern smallest desktops with built-in
I dunno about most unprotected, but I used to have a Centronics 101 portable
printer that was tough for even *me* to lift! And the Sony 17" portable
display unit my atari club has could probably give the 5100 a run for its
money weightwise.
>I wouldn't have any handles on anyway. Reasonably good idea this way
>so users are forced to hold it carefully and stuff their portables
>into padded bags/cases. Handles invites accidents and some swing
>around too easily, bang into other objects that could crack/break
>screens and hard drives like that, handles breaks, *CRASH!*
Or you could make it well enough that that wouldn't matter... 8^)
Besides, you put a handle on an IBM 5100, turn around quick, and you could
*kill* someone! 8^)
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Greetings,
I am new to the group , I posted a message a couple of days ago , I was not
sure if it got out . Has anyone ever heard of a kx-33b 4-bit microcomputer or
any 4-bit microcomputer trainer type units .
thanks,
Frank.
Thanks for the response , the Heathkit ET 3400 is a good trainer . The kx-33b
had only data switches and I am guessing , possibly only 16 nibbles of ram .
Not much you could do with it but I thought it looked interesting . I once saw
an add for it in the December 1979 issue of Popular Electronics page 117. I
also ran across an add for the NRI computer I had mentioned earlier PE. 3\77
Pg. 37 from the add it looks to be called a model 832 .If anyone has the
chance to go to any computer shows\auctions lately and has seen these type of
computers I would appreciate hearing from you .
Frank
hello
i saw two apple IIgs card for the apple lc for sale at a local computer store
and was wondering if anyone wanted them? they appeared to new in box.
dave
I got an Apple ][gs today form a guy in Georgia. It's a ROM 03 model
with 1mb of RAM, an RGB monitor and an Apple keyboard. It has no docs,
floppy drives, or mouse.
Does anyone have a spare mouse, floppy drive, and maybe docs that I can
buy? Which drives were available for this unit? I have mostly 5-1/4" disks
right now, so I'd like to get that type first, then maybe a 3-1/2".
I have a copy of ProDOS floating around but I'd like to get a copy of
GS/OS. Can I run this with 1mb of RAM?
Thanks!
Rich Cini/WUGNET
<nospam_rcini(a)msn.com> (remove nospam_ to use)
ClubWin! Charter Member (6)
MCP Windows 95/Windows Networking
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Hi,
I found some DEC circuit boards. They're marked "ZG91100876" and they
appear to be memory boards. Can anyone tell me what they are and what
machine they're for?
Joe
>>And of course, I'm on the train to work and my Haddock book is at home...
>>What year was the compass?
>
>Compass 1100 1982 (Says it on the case as mfg. date)
>GRiDCASE 3 1985
>GRiDCASE 1535exp 1989 (At least that's what the BIOS says)
>
>I threw the other two in just so I could remind myself to come up with a
>timeline for the GRiD page. I'd like to find the original pricing on these
>suckers. Anyone know where to look?
Haddock says (now that I'm home) the Compass was early 1982, $6000-8000.
Doesn't mention the others.
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roger(a)sinasohn.com that none but madmen know."
Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates
San Francisco, California http://www.crl.com/~sinasohn/
At 01:17 PM 1/15/98, you wrote:
>
>
>At 11:48 AM 1/15/98 -0600, you wrote:
>>Tat goes without saying: placing a machine in a want list is also an
>>engagement to purchase it. Otherwise the system would not work for too long.
Things "that go without saying" are usually what screw up the system.
Things like that are best said up front. Better to have someone say "well,
duh" then to have someone get stiffed.
>>There should be an update prior to each outing to make sure that the
>>machines are still wanted.
>
> That's not practical for me. I went looking (and found :-) last
>Saturday, yesterday (found more) and I will go again today ( I know where
>there's a keyboard that I need) and again next Thursday (big NASA auction)
>for certain. I look a lot, that's why I find a lot. One of the FEW
>advantages of living in a big city.
The best thing to do is to list what you're after with a price of *what
you'd be willing to pay for a second machine.* That way, if I say I want an
osborne 1 and I'm willing to pay $50, and I go out and find one at the same
time someone else finds one for me, I wouldn't mind paying the $50 for a
second machine. Of course, you might miss out on that first machine at $75,
but better safe than sorry (until you win the lottery, of course.)
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roger(a)sinasohn.com that none but madmen know."
Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates
San Francisco, California http://www.crl.com/~sinasohn/
At 09:52 PM 1/16/98 -0600, you wrote:
>Haddock says (now that I'm home) the Compass was early 1982, $6000-8000.
>Doesn't mention the others.
Forgive me, my ignorance, O Wise One, but what is this Haddock?
-John Higginbotham-
-limbo.netpath.net-
> OK I'll get an EE to help me out. Did you ever used that with a monitor? is
> the 60 Hz vs 50 Hz a problem?
>
>>When I went to the US recently, I built my own 110/220V converter. I
>>found a small (10VA) transformer that had dual 120V primaries and wired
>>these as an autotransformer. Boxed it up in small wooden box and Bob's
>>your uncle.
As Tony pointed out, 50/60 Hz shouldn't be a problem.
HOWEVER, it should be pointed out that the transformer must be capable
of carrying the power. I used a 10VA transformer to power the one or
two devices that had 240V only. To run monitors and things, you'd need
100VA or so. Transformers do exist for just this sort of purpose, upto
about 2kVA, but V. heavy!
(Rule of thumb for switchmode power supplies - Look at ower consumption
and assume 1VA = 0.6W)
Finally, a tranformer designed for 60Hz must be derated to a lower
VOLTAGE when used at 50Hz.
I hope that hasn't got you all too confused.
Philip.
> <These two threads just bumped together in my head. Has anybody got
> <an idea of how long data should last on wire? It can't have the same
>
> If it didn't rust forever or until a stronger field distrurbed it.
Assuming one got a wire recorder working, what is the print-through
situation like? I'd have thought not too good...
Philip.
Hey, just in case anyone's interested in HP calculators there is a red dot
model of the HP 35 for sale on Auction Web. For the ones of you that don't
know what they are, the red dot is the very first batch of HP calculators
that were ever produced by HP. They're very rare and you almost never see
one for sale. If any of you have one, I'LL BUY IT!
The URL is
"http://iguana.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4389154" and no
I'm not the seller.
Joe
John Higginbotham <higginbo(a)netpath.net> wrote:
>Okay, so I have a C-64c, 1541 floppy, and monitor. Now how exactly would I
>go about downloading programs from the internet on my PC machine and
>porting them over to the Commodore? Will I need a special serial cable?
Browse some C-64 web pages, you'll find lots of info about this.
There are one or two emerged-standard parallel to DIN cables like
"X1541" that you can easily craft (given the right connectors -
I got lucky and found the right DIN in the junk box) that connect
your PC printer port directly to the 1541. Works like a charm.
I've also used a freeware utility on the Amiga that requires a
tweak of the drive speed motor on a 5 1/4 drive, and that works
OK, too. The 1541 is better, though, but you'll find a lot of
bad sectors and out-of-spec disks on the C-64.
- John
Jefferson Computer Museum <http://www.threedee.com/jcm>
Hi!
I think someone on this list is a System 80 expert, and I am hoping I can
find them. :) I just picked up a System 80 with expansion box and disk
drives, but I'm having some trouble. When I power it up I either get
gibberish on the screen (the usual stuff you get before the ready signal)
that doesn't go away, or, when I switch the box off,I just jump to BASIC.
This happens with or without a disk in the drive. I tried another System
80, and that one didn't seem to notice the expansion box at all - it
always went into BASIC, whether or not I had the box switched on.
None of the manuals seemed to have anything useful to say, but I suspect
that either I am being really stupid and failing to do something basic,
or something is broken somewhere. Any ideas?
Thanks heaps,
Adam.
Found these on an online auction:
TRS-80 Expansion Interface
http://www.haggle.com/cgi/getitem.cgi?id=201496013
RADIO SHACK TRS-80 EXPANSION INTERFACE-CATALOG NUMBER 26-1140-1 WITH
BUFFERED EI CABLE. CONDITION UNKNOWN. SOLD AS IS. BUYER PAYS UPS
SHIPPING,
AND PAYS BY MONEY ORDER, OR CHECK. CHECKS CLEAR BEFORE ITEM SHIPPED.
LOOKS
TO BE O.K. OUTSIDE WITH EXCEPTION OF ONE MISSING RUBBER TIP ON BOTTOM.
TRS-80 Mini Disk Drive
http://www.haggle.com/cgi/getitem.cgi?id=201496017
RADIO SHACK TRS-80 MINI DISK DRIVE-CATALOG NUMBER 26-1160. TAKES 5.25
FLOPPIES.
CONDITION UNKNOWN. SOLD AS IS. BUYER PAYS UPS SHIPPING, AND PAYS BY MONEY
ORDER, OR CHECK. CHECKS CLEAR BEFORE ITEM SHIPPED.
-John Higginbotham-
-limbo.netpath.net-
At 02:23 AM 1/16/98 -0600, you wrote:
>As for me, I'm into portable stuff... Anything, say $20 or less I'll
>definitely take it off your hands (or at least send you the $20). More than
>that, maybe ask first, unless it's really cool...
Same here, as long as it's portable, AND made by GRiD Systems.
-John Higginbotham-
-limbo.netpath.net-
At 06:03 AM 1/15/98 +0000, you wrote:
>Doea anyone have a spare 14 connector DIN cable? I need one for
>connecting a disk drive to my Thomson TO-8 computer. I believe the same
>cable is used to connect drives to the Atari ST series machines.
Check with one of the many Atari dealers out there... Best Electronics (San
Jose) has just released a new catalog that is also supposed to be an
excellent reference. Do a search on them and you should find it; several
other vendors (Like B&C) also sell the best catalog. You could also try
Computer Direct (I think) in Canada; they're a big dealer.
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