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by maxeskin＠hotmail.com

>Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 14:04:14 -0800 >Reply-To: classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu >From: "Daniel A. Seagraves" <DSEAGRAV(a)toad.xkl.com> >To: "Discussion re-collecting of classic computers" <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> >Subject: Re: System/34 contd. > >[loss of manuals....] > >That's OK, I have most of the manuals. Anything specific? >I can't let them go, they're only copies, but I can post anything specific you may be needing... I doubt I will be using the thing because it needs a 220-volt plug, which there are at my school, but noone would let me put it in their room. There isn't any space in my apartment either :). Could I somehow wire to 110-volt plugs to get 220? If there is some kind of "getting started" thing, photocopies would be fun, just to look at... ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

28 years, 2 months

Apple //gs boot problem

by rcini＠email.msn.com

On Sun, 15 Feb 1998 08:26:06 -0500, "kroma" <kroma(a)worldnet.att.net> wrote: >>Do you turn the HD on first and let it warm up for about 30 seconds, before >>you turn on the GS? Turned-on, yes. Warmed-up for 30s, no. The drive did finish it's power-on sequence and came to a rest, though, which happens in less than 30s. Does the GS/OS use a special boot block like the MS-DOS boot sector, or does it just look for the ProDOS file? Rich Cini/WUGNET <nospam_rcini(a)msn.com> (remove nospam_ to use) ClubWin! Charter Member (6) MCP Windows 95/Windows Networking ============================================

28 years, 2 months

MORE Freebies! Come and get 'em!

by kyrrin2＠wizards.net

OK, more freebies! What can I say? I really need the space. ;-) Once again, LOCAL PICKUP ONLY, KENT, WA (Near Seattle). There's no way I have the resources to ship this stuff. 1). At least 20 RL02 disk packs, one of which is the DEC Diagnostics kit for VAX11/730 and 750. There's also an RL02-based distribution kit for the VMS 5.4 upgrade, still in sealed boxes, with the license PAK and release notes. I also saw some RT11 ver. 5.1 packs. 2). A pair of RL02 disk drives, installed in a mini-rack. I'm keeping the Micro PDP-11/73 that was in the same rack, but I'll throw in the QBus RL controller. There may be some documentation I'll pass on as well -- I'll decide that when whoever comes by to get the stuff does so. Drop me an E-mail if you're interested and we'll set up a date. Thanks in advance! -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Bruce Lane, Sysop, The Dragon's Cave BBS (Fidonet 1:343/272) (Hamateur: WD6EOS) (E-mail: kyrrin2(a)wizards.net) http://www.wizards.net/technoid "Our science can only describe an object, event, or living thing in our own human terms. It cannot, in any way, define any of them..."

28 years, 2 months

Linux, Apache, Scripting books (Off-Topic)

by photze＠batelco.com.bh

Hi. I'm getting really interested in setting up a fairly good web server, and I want to learn all (most) about Linux, Apache, and CGI/Java scripting. What's needed, etc. If anyone could recommend some books, and, if they've got the ISBN's so I can find 'em.... Thanks again, Tim D. Hotze

28 years, 2 months

Convex C3200 computer (Melbourne)

by adam＠merlin.net.au

Spotted this message today - I imagine that they don't appear too often. :) >We have a huge Convex C3200 computer (it would have been termed >a supercomputer when it was new). It's basically worthless to us. > >Best offer thanks, and you pay for the transport. It weighs lots. > >It has 4 IPI disk drives, a DLT tape unit (x4) a versatec VME plotter >plus, the all time favorite, one of those reel to reel tape units. >(Storage tec 90, 2920 model). What is it? Is it the sort of thing that desperatly needs saving? I probably can't pick it up myself, as it is in the wrong state and I suspect a car with a trailer may still have trouble bringing it back, but I hope there is someone here from Melbourne or Sydney who can handle it. :) Adam.

28 years, 2 months

Another successful "shopping" stip to Temple Univ.

by rcini＠email.msn.com

Hello, all... I went "shopping" at the Temple University Elephant Graveyard again this Friday. Here's what I got, and here's what's left: 1. Misc. boards: LA100 and LA180 logic boards, MDB DB-11, unknown Printronix board (has IM6402 processor, PCB# 104801-002 Rev A. What's that one for?) 2. M7269, M8256, M9312 3. DEC 60833 cable (console cable??) 4. software: DEC 3000 AXP MUP CD and manual (for the Alpha??) 5. IBM monochrome monitor 6. New RK05 filters and head cleaning kit 7. DB-11 and BA-11 manuals 8. PERTEC interface cable (Unibus to ??) 9. Kinetic Systems PDP-11 Crate Controller Model 3912-Z1E (what's this for?) 10. RK05 disk packs: Blank RK05 packs RT-11 System E (??) RT-11 Diagnostics RT-11 V3 SYS RK5 DISK 11/2/77 RT-11 V02C SOURCES 2/12/76 BASIC/RT-11 V01B 12/17/75 RSTS/E V6C RSXRMS LIB RK5 1/26/78 RSTS/E V7.0 RSX RTX LIB RK5 1979 11. IBM Fortran manual {no disks :-( } A quick look reveals that they have the following left (not including two documents/small parts rooms that I *still* have not been able to get to): many 11/23s, two or three 11/34s, many RL01/02 disk packs, several 6' and 4' racks, several ASR33s, boxes and boxes of uncategorized parts, terminals, VMS manuals, TK58 tape drive parts (should have taken them this trip, but didn't), BA23 cabinets, Cipher tape drives, 3 or 4 uVax-Is, several RX01/02 drives, RK05 drives, RL01/02 drives, other crap too numerous to mention. The guy there is taking a full inventory during spring break. Will post the inventory when available. Rich Cini/WUGNET <nospam_rcini(a)msn.com> (remove nospam_ to use) ClubWin! Charter Member (6) MCP Windows 95/Windows Networking ============================================

28 years, 2 months

CLASSICCMP digest 324

by foxnhare＠goldrush.com

From: Joe <rigdonj(a)intellistar.net> Subject: Re: first bug was a myth >At 05:01 PM 2/11/98 -0500, you wrote: >>> I seem to remember a certain species of cockroach that was quite fond of >>> wire insulation... >> >>I really doubt that, sincd cockroaches eat human food. (Termites, maybe?) > Hey, I live in Florida where the cockroach is the state insect! I can >tell you for a fact that they eat EVERYTHING! If you think they only eat >human food then it's obvious that you've never lived in an area that has >roaches! > I have seen cloth covered wires stripped bare by roaches! I remember reading a specific article on this very subject and it went as far as to identify the various insects and their favorite electronic unit's comound, I thought it was silver fish that went for insulation but I could be wrong... Anyone else ever heard of this article... (I pick up sooo much trivia I have a hard time remembering the source...) -- -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- Visit our web page at: http://www.goldrush.com/~foxnhare/ Call our Commodore 64 BBS (Silicon Realms 300-2400 baud) at: (209) 754-1363 -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-

28 years, 2 months

Disk problems/questions.

by allisonp＠world.std.com

<With a 386 computer configured for B: =3D 360KB, a disk formatted in B: <seems fine with no error messages. BUT: running SCANDISK on said <newly-formatted 360KB diskette results in an error message: "Media <descriptor byte incorrect", and prompts for repair. The byte, before <and after repair, is hex FD. Has anyone else experienced this problem? I suspect the following: Disk controller board. Corrupted format program. Corrupted scandisk program. One test not mentioned (or i've forgotten) is do you get the same error on a disk formatted on a DIFFERENT PC? Allison

28 years, 2 months

LCD life

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

In a message dated 2/15/98 1:42:33 PM Eastern Standard Time, higginbo(a)netpath.net writes: << I thought all the pixels that would go bad do so during the assembly process. Do they go bad on their own over time? -John Higginbotham- >> yes, on lcd displays such as what IBM thinkpads use, individual pixels can go bad. usually its not noticeable unless there is a solid colour on the screen and then you can usually see it. i had a thinkpad once and had maybe one or two burn out while i had it. like anything, they can go bad, but usually not very many and almost never several at once. david

28 years, 2 months

Does NetBSD use the hardware clock differently?

by allisonp＠world.std.com

<Hmm... are VS3100m30's rechargable or what? Mine always seem to forget <the time after about 20 minutes off... Its 3 AA batteries in a bundle.. It three AAA or three AA (model dependent) NICADS, a source for those are replacement battereis used for some cordless phones. Do not substitute lithium cells or alkline cells as they will fail due to the charging circuit. They are charged with the system is running (12hours minimum). If they have been discharged for sometime then they will be dead. I take them out and charge them standalone. If they don't charge well new ones are substituted. FYI: they only keep the TOY(time of year) clock powered for 2 weeks to 1 month before going flat. The reason for that is not the TOY chip but nicads have lousy long term shelf life. Allison

28 years, 2 months

A Good Joe

by manney＠nwohio.com

I just concluded a swap with Joe Rigdon (rigdonj(a)intellistar.net) and wish to mention that he followed through with his end promptly and completely. It is a pleasure to trade with him, and other persons on the list may feel confident in doing so. P Manney (manney(a)nwohio.com)

28 years, 2 months

Disk problems/questions.

by allisonp＠world.std.com

<> seems fine with no error messages. BUT: running SCANDISK on said <> newly-formatted 360KB diskette results in an error message: "Media <> descriptor byte incorrect", and prompts for repair. The byte, before <> and after repair, is hex FD. Has anyone else experienced this problem? < <Barry, perhaps there is a problem with ScanDisk on 360K disks? < <If there is a problem, you would probably be able to find some informatio <about it in Microsoft's knowledge base. Go to their FTP site <(ftp.microsoft.com) and navigate from there. I'm sure Kai can supply a I have scandisk on my xt with two 360k drives here and it works just fine. Allison

28 years, 2 months

IBM PC type 5150

by foxvideo＠wincom.net

I just picked up two of these at a thrift shop, 2 floppies, cassette jack, no hd. On the mounting plate of the floppy card is a female 37 contact 'D' connector. Can any one tell me what this was for? Regards Charlie Fox

28 years, 2 months

Commie/Amiga Mouse Compatibility

by foxnhare＠goldrush.com

I just hit the "quote button and had to wait several minutes for the digest to come up in the e-mail... Don't you hate when you do things like that... (:/) ----------------------------------------------------------- From: John Higginbotham <higginbo(a)netpath.net> Subject: Commie/Amiga compatibility > Just came across an Amiga/Atari switchable mouse, and was wondering if it > would also work on my C-64. Does anyone know if c-64 and amiga had the same > pinouts for the joystick port? > -John Higginbotham- > -limbo.netpath.net- Sorry but the mice are not compatible between the Amiga and the 64, the only pins that are the same are the joystick ones... You may want to check this site out: http://www.blackdown.org/~hwb/hwb.html This is the location for the Hardware Book, which lists a vast number of microcomputer pinouts as well as adapter wiring guides. ------------------------------------------------------------ -- -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- Visit our web page at: http://www.goldrush.com/~foxnhare/ Call our Commodore 64 BBS (Silicon Realms 300-2400 baud) at: (209) 754-1363 -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-

28 years, 2 months

Memotech MTX500

by adam＠merlin.net.au

Hi! Another lucky find - a Memotech MTX500 for $2. :) Beautiful computer - aluminium case, nice looking external power supply, and black. Unfortunatly it didn't come with any software or manuals. Does anyone have a spare manual, or a couple of spare cassettes for it? i would like to see what it was capable of. :) Thanks heaps, Adam.

28 years, 2 months

Disk problems/questions.

by wts＠exo.com

If I remember correctly, The 1.2M drive uses a track 1/2 the width of the 360K drive. If you format a disk and write data with the same drive, there is no problem. The 1.2 drive can read down the middle of a 360K fat track and all is OK. The 360K drive can read the 1.2M skinny track and all is probably OK. The problem comes in when you use a 1.2M drive to write on a diskette that was previously written by a 360K drive. The skinny track is now on top of the fat track. The 360K drive will certainly have problems. It will read the new data in addition to 1/2 of the old data. Regards, Tom Sanderson wts(a)exo.com http://exo.com/~wts/wts10005.HTM Virtual Altair Museum -----Original Message----- From: Mike Allison [SMTP:mallison@konnections.com] Sent: Thursday, February 12, 1998 9:53 PM To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers Subject: Re: Disk problems/questions. I had an IBM 360k that I was using, no compliants. I started having data problems moving stuff from a true 1.2M to the 360. Later, I put a 360 in the other computer and I still had problems. Finally, I figured it out, the IBM was either out of alignment, or shot... Could it just simply be the 360k drive? -Mike Barry Peterson wrote: > > On Wed, 11 Feb 1998 07:27:01 -0500, you said: > > >Scandisk works excellent for me here even on my Leading Edge XT. It's > >something your doing not scandisk. > > Maybe it's a difference between the XT and AT BIOS or how the format > command is executed, I wasn't "doing" anything but: > > 1) format b: > (Responding to prompts as appropriate) > 2)scandisk b: > (Error message reported by said scandisk program) > > No parameters, no modifiers, nothing more than the above two commands > _______________ > > Barry Peterson bmpete(a)swbell.net > Husband to Diane, Father to Doug, > Grandfather to Zoe and Tegan.

28 years, 2 months

Commie/Amiga compatibility

by higginbo＠netpath.net

Just came across an Amiga/Atari switchable mouse, and was wondering if it would also work on my C-64. Does anyone know if c-64 and amiga had the same pinouts for the joystick port? -John Higginbotham- -limbo.netpath.net-

28 years, 2 months

LCD life

by higginbo＠netpath.net

At 11:00 AM 2/15/98 EST, you wrote: >the only thing i know that can happen to them is burned out pixels which is to >be expected, and not really that noticeable unless there are several clumped >together. I thought all the pixels that would go bad do so during the assembly process. Do they go bad on their own over time? -John Higginbotham- -limbo.netpath.net-

28 years, 2 months

DEC disk test sets

by jpl15＠netcom.com

With all the discussion of disk exercisers, now might be an appropriate time to post this stuff. I have found a number of DEC and DEC-associated test sets. I have three in my possesion and will wait to see if there is any response to get the rest of the units. They seem to be in good shape, w/manuals and adapter cables. I cant really *test* any of them because I don't own any of the drives they are for. O well..... I have here field test boxes for: RK07/07 TB216A (CDC) (2 available) RM03/05 (3 available) Also there are: DEC TDR Analyzer Wilson Labs SX-530 Disk Memory Exerciser Information Storage Tech. 7330 DDU Tester Memorex 800 Disc Storage System Tester (7 of these available) Memorex Mecanical Alignment Kit Magnetic Peripherals Field Test Unit TB3A2A for RM0 series (3 avail) DEC RM06/07 Carriage alignment tool DEC RM02/3/5 Head Carriage tools (2 avail) Condition of the devices I have in hand appears to be good, the others have not been inspected by me personally, but the owner says they're all about the same. Prices on these units: (US) $50? $75? More? Less? I am in Southern California. These devices are all in 'Zero'-type cases.. shipping should not be a problem. e-mail jpl15(a)netcom.com Cheers John

28 years, 2 months

Disk Exerciser

by agammuto＠clark.net

Jim- Can you give me an update on the Sol 20? Thanks. A.P. Gammuto Maryland, USA www.konics.com

28 years, 2 months

Disk Exerciser

by manney＠nwohio.com

I've never HEARD of a disk exerciser. What on earth is one for? Pushups? Situps? manney

28 years, 2 months

LCD life

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

In a message dated 2/15/98 2:15:53 AM Eastern Daylight Time, william(a)ans.net writes: << I was just thinking about future collectables like laptops, and I do have a question: Does anyone know how well LCDs hold up against time (provided, of course, that they are not cracked!)? >> the only thing i know that can happen to them is burned out pixels which is to be expected, and not really that noticeable unless there are several clumped together. david

28 years, 2 months

Commie/Amiga compatibility

by higginbo＠netpath.net

At 05:11 AM 2/12/98 +0000, you wrote: >No, it won't. One of my great disappointments. I've had it explained >to me but I can't recall why. That's an Amiga-Atari 'ST' mouse. >It wont work on an 8-bit atari neither Dang. So I'll have to buy an Amiga to use this mouse. (Yet another excuse to get another computer!) -John Higginbotham- -limbo.netpath.net-

28 years, 2 months

GP-IB (was Re: Atari 8-bit Find)

by allisonp＠world.std.com

<Which reminds me: why didn't IEEE-488 ever become a big hit in the Otherwise known as GPIB. <computer biz? It's been around since the 60's, is standard, has good <performance, has IC support, can handle a bunch of devices, etc., but it <became relagated to a niche of scientific instrument control for some <reason. The few chips to support it were slow, it used specialized cables and connectors and it was as costly to impliment as SCSI. As a future bus it didn't offer the speed potential. Allison

28 years, 2 months

LCD life

by allisonp＠world.std.com

<>Does anyone know how well LCDs hold up against time (provided, of course <>that they are not cracked!)? There is no finite life assuming they havent been abused. My PX-8 is from around 85ish and still works great. I have a number of other small test gear that are older. Allison

28 years, 2 months

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