<3.5"? That's a "standard" off-the-shelf IDE disk, isn't it? 2.5" is
<a standard off-the-shelf laptop IDE drive. 1.8" drives are also
I'd rather 2.5 or smaller but a really cheap 3.5 is ok.
<Are you looking for drives that are still produced in quantity? If not,
<the Kittyhawk 20MB drive would be a good one to get (at the website
<mentioned previously).
The is at most a one up for myself(non commercial design).
Allison
The Kittyhawk is pretty small, and I don't know of any machine other tha
<the Dauphin DTR-1 what used it. I don't think it's the smallest though.
<Does anybody remember the Syquest SQ1100? Removable hard disks about th
<size of a box of matches. They produced them for OEM eval, but I don't
<think they ever made it to the retail channel. I have about 100 of them
As someone building a smaller z280/cpm system I'm in the hunt for a
IDE hard disk with a form factor 3.5" or smaller. I may be able to use
PCMCIA but a forsee them as too expensive. The storage can be small as
10mb and anything over 60-80mb is gross overkill(I'll take bigger but I
really dont need it). My other requirements is known good and real
cheap.
Allison
I have acquired an old "kit" computer, circa 1977. The CPU has a trademark like a double script N, slanted to the right, with one superimposed on the other. Most of the other 10 or so smaller chips have the same mark.
Adjacent to this is the number 804 (the CPU ID?) Other numbers are ISP-8A, /500D and SC/MP.
It is the size and shape of a Z80 or 8085
Anyone have any idea what this is?
Thanks
Hans
PCMCIA drives are 2"W x 3 1/4"L x 3/8"H.
Note that the SyQuest media size doesn't really count because the rest of
the drive was in the PCMCIA card (heads, motor, electronics).
I have a DTR-1 also, BTW...
Kai
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Doug Yowza [SMTP:yowza@yowza.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 1998 9:51 AM
> To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
> Subject: Re: A possible (future) classic.
>
> On Tue, 3 Mar 1998, Doug Yowza wrote:
>
> > The Kittyhawk is pretty small, and I don't know of any machine other
> than
> > the Dauphin DTR-1 what used it. I don't think it's the smallest though.
> > Does anybody remember the Syquest SQ1100? Removable hard disks about
> the
> > size of a box of matches. They produced them for OEM eval, but I don't
> > think they ever made it to the retail channel. I have about 100 of
> them.
>
> I just got off my lazy butt and actually compared the two drives side by
> side. They are both the same width, but the kittyhawk is considerable
> shorter in length and taller.
>
> SQ1100 media: 1.8" x 2.0" x 3/16"
> Kittyhawk: 1.8" x 1 5/8" x 3/8"
> PCMCIA-II drives would need to be 3/16" tall or under, I'd guess.
>
> (measurements done with a crude tape measure.)
>
> -- Doug
I finally got the various pieces together that I need to hopefully setup
a shoebox for my 3/50. I have a copy of NetBSD on CD-ROM, the shoebox, and
60mb tapes.
My question is this: what is the best way to setup the shoebox with
NetBSD? I thought about hooking the shoebox and a CD up to a PeeCee and
trying to create a bootable tape (I don't know if this is even possible), or
copying the 68k distribution to the hard disk. If you read the FAQ on the
CD, it almost sounds like you need a bootable system to be able to install
it.
Any thoughts??
Rich Cini/WUGNET
<nospam_rcini(a)msn.com> (remove nospam_ to use)
ClubWin! Charter Member (6)
MCP Windows 95/Windows Networking
============================================
Hi,
I have a Sun 2/120 (actually a Computervision manufactured clone) that I
don't have room for. Condition is unknown, but it does have keyboard,
mouse, monitor and a few spare multibus boards. It is big and heavy, so
collection from Cambridge UK is preferred but I would consider
delivering to a location not that far from me.
--
Kevan
Old Computer Collector: http://www.heydon.org/kevan/collection/
> [S/34 3-Phase?]
> Naah, can't be. It doesn't have a 3-phase plug. It's a slightly smaller
> version of the round Hubbel plug (3 pins. 3-phase needs 4, right?) on my
> PDP-11 power boxes. Mine has power in the room still, I can power it up, but
You can do three phase on only three wires - most long distance power
lines are done that way - but that would be unearthed, and therefore not
recommended. If it is a 190/208V version rather than a 220/240V version
it is probably expecting two of the three phases plus ground.
> nobody knows a userid/password to IPL it...
> Is there some way around that?
Dunno. Passwords are only 4 letters IIRC so shouldn't be that difficult
to crack if you've got a terminal emulator card in a PC. I'm afraid a
quick glance through the pocket reference hasn't revealed anything
useful :-(
Philip.
> I did actually check this. It says 208. This is not awfully
> informative, AFAIK, because the voltage fluctuates +/- 5 or so anyway
> >Open the side opposite the CE panel, and look down by the 4 twinax
> connectors.
> >There shoud be a label saying what yours is wired for - Mine wants 204V
> AC.
Voltages like 204V and 208V mean it probably wants 3-phase. These are
the phase-to-phase voltages on three phase systems where the phase to
earth voltage is 117V and 120V respectively. It may only require two of
the three phases, in which case you might be able to convert...
The suggestion of using PC power supplies or similar is a good one but
you may need something a bit more powerful. You need to know how much
current it draws on each supply rail.
I seem to recall that someone on this list has a working S/34. Could
this person measure the current under various conditions? NB 5V rail
current could be 100A or more, so don't just stick a multimeter in
series with it! Use a proper shunt and millivoltmeter.
A while back, I mentioned that I have some system/34 pocket references
available to send to anyone with a s/34 who needs them. No-one has yet
replied that I've seen. Any takers? The OS pocket reference is very
thick (nearly 100 pages IIRC).
Philip.
PS Comparing the System/34 and the 8086 is not strictly fair - the 8086
appeared in laboratory tests in 1979 IIRC, while the S/34 was already on
sale in 1977 I think. Things did shrink _very_ fast at that period!
Also the S/34 has disks, - including my favourite floppy drive! - around
256K of memory, and other I/O that would have required several PC style
boxes full of support chips, drives etc. for the 8086 in the late '70s.
<I have acquired an old "kit" computer, circa 1977. The CPU has a =
<trademark like a double script N, slanted to the right, with one =
<superimposed on the other. Most of the other 10 or so smaller chips
<have = the same mark.
National Semiconductor.
<Adjacent to this is the number 804 (the CPU ID?) Other numbers are =
<ISP-8A, /500D and SC/MP.
there is a clue in the markings.
The part numebr is ISP-8A/500D, aka SC/MP. The (D) in the part number
says ceramic package. The part is implmented in an older P-channel MOS 3
voltage technology. A faster and single voltage Nmos version was about a
year later (ISP-8A/600).
<It is the size and shape of a Z80 or 8085
That means it has 40 pins.
<Anyone have any idea what this is?
That is the National Semiconductor SC/MP cpu on likely a evaluation kit
board. there were two versions one had a calculator like terminal and the
oter used rs232/tty interface to a terminal. The rom (5204) was a very
small 512byte monitor. It was a an interesting cpu though that version
was SLOW at 2-10uS per instruction.
I like to collect these(SBCs) as they are interesting though often not
very useful as implemented.
Allison
Joe on Kittyhawk drives:
> Do these drives use a standard interface? They're neat drives, it's a
> shame that HP quit building them.
Gary pointed us at a web site:
> http://www.allelec.com
according to which they are 44-pin IDE the same as most laptop IDE
drives. I'm not quite sure how that would fit in such a small drive,
but...
Philip.
Would anybody with SOrcerer technical information, including user group
newsletters and just about any Sorcerer documentation please contact me
directly? I'm trying to restore a pretty neato homebrew setup here and sure
could use some tech specs.
Includes a 5M hard drive, twin Micropolis drives and about 100+ disks of
software, custom BIOS mods for HD and FD access.... the works.
Cheers
A
>>I have a canon SX320!!
>You didn't mention it in your list. I did get the right machine, didn't
>I? I have a shoe-box full of program listings for it, except they're in
>NZ and the thermal paper has probably faded to nothing by now.
Yes, I checked the number this morning.
My Canon SX320 was inadvertently left out of the list, along with...
Sinclair ZX-81
(I've just ordered three unbuilt kits of these - still available NEW
on the web, would you believe!!)
Sinclair ZX-80
Sinclair Spectrum
Tandy TRS-80 MC-10 (a whacking great 3581 bytes of program memory :)
Canon 1614P (a punched card reading programmable desktop)
A couple of Sorcerers
Atari 800
Compucolor II
Datanumerics DL8A
... I've forgotten what else I've forgotten.
>Do you actually use it? I really can't remember much about it other
>than that you programmed it like a calculator, one function per line,
>and that alphanumeric output like prompts needed one line for each
>character, so program listings tended to get rather long. Did it have a
>tape storage or cartridges or something for programs?
I have not switched this machine on, actually. It is very dusty and sitting
in my office at work. I will be happy to take a pic and place on a website
should anyone be interested. It had a strange sort of tape storage - sort
of like a little toaster oven at the top right of the machine.
Unfortunately, due to multiple moves, I no longer have the tapes for this
unit :(
Cheers
A
My name is Jack Peacock. I'm 42, based in Las Vegas (Nevada, not that other
place in New Mexico). I got started in computers way back in 1971, on a
Univac 1106, with fixed head and moving head FASTRAND drums. Back then the
programming medium of choice was punch cards (yes, I even learned how to
program 026 keypunches using drum cards), and if you were lucky a turn at
the ASR33 teletype. Does anyone still remember that "other" character set
besides Baudot, ASCII and EBCDIC? (Hint, 6 bit Univac character set,
started with an F)
I got started in the hardware side while working for Lockheed, building
environmental monitoring instruments (LIDARs, multi-spectral scanners, low
level radiation sample counters)). We needed a cheap data logger with some
intelligence that could run unattended for long periods of time, or in
aircraft. We had tried HP9830s (ever try flying one in a 2 seater
helicopter?), and looked at National IMP-16s and DG Novas, all too big or
expensive. Then one day a guy brought in the now famous issue of Popular
Electronics, with the Altair kit. We got one, put it together in the lab,
and promptly blew up the CPU board. In the early kits there was a tiny
defect, seems all the gold fingers on the CPU card were shorted together
with a hairline plating error on the card edge, almost too small to see.
Know what happens when you put -12 on the +5 line in an 8080? Pieces of it
almost hit the ceiling. From that point on, whenever we first turned on an
S-100 kit, the warning to everyone else was "Flame On" so they could duck.
MITS replaced the board (when 8080 CPUs were still $400 each) and the Altair
worked! We actually used it for one project, but it was quickly retired
when the IMSAI came out. We bought #17 from IMSAI in December 1975.
The IMSAI was very cheap compared to what the other engineering sections who
still used minis (DEC and DG) were doing in their projects. We outfitted
the IMSAI with a floppy, paper tape, and a VDM CRT display, and we used it
to write 8080 code for several years. The board that went into the
instruments was the single board 8080 eval kit Intel was selling at the time
(SDK-80?). Years later I found out some of the data loggers went more than
10 years in the field without repairs. Intel built good stuff even then.
Freshly overconfident from getting an IMSAI to run at work, I bought one
myself in 1977 after trying out my skills on a National SC/MP eval kit
first. It took a lot of work, and some assistance from the E.E.s at work,
but I got the IMSAI running. Virtually all my knowledge of digital
electronics came from wire wrapping proto boards for the S-100. In my
opinion, it was one of the best platforms for learning real-world electronic
design, especially when it's your own money that goes up in smoke when you
don't double-check the voltages first.
I program for a living these days, incredibly dull accounting applications
and tech support. I still have the S-100s, including that original IMSAI
(even have the CPU chip left from the SC/MP board). I don't have too much
opportunity these days to do electronics, but I keep a hand in designing
8051-based controller boards. Chances are you've seen one of the 8051
boards if you ever come to Las Vegas, they are inside some of the big casino
signs on the Strip.
The collection is modest:
my treasured IMSAI, complete with 22 slot board and front panel, lovingly
hand assembled, running CP/M 3 off a 5MB hard drive, Ithaca Z80B, 256KB RAM
(still used for production once in a while, it's not a museum piece yet)
The rest:
an IMSAI VDP, which I work on once in a while
several generic 8086 and 286 based S-100 boxes running Concurrent DOS
an original IBM AT, circa 1985, upgraded first to a 386 with a Jet adapter,
then to a Cyrix 486DR2 (the world's slowest 486, 8Mhz)
a MicroVax II (KA630) in a BA-23 pedestal, with an RD54 and 16MB, VMS 5.3
a Vax 3600 (KA650) in a BA-123 box (upgraded MV II), 24 MB, VMS 6.2
several generic 386 PC clones, recycled as controllers on router tables in a
machine shop for the moment
Yeah; I'm currently studying with two kids (3 and 1). Believe me... it
will be much much easier now rather than when you have other commitments.
Do it sooner rather than later :)
-----Original Message-----
From: Russ Blakeman <rhblake(a)bbtel.com>
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
Date: Tuesday, March 03, 1998 6:57 PM
Subject: Re: Demography?
>R. Stricklin (kjaeros) wrote:
>
>> I'm 20 years old and am the sysadmin for Geoworks' (yes, that Geoworks)
>> Seattle design centre. I spent two years at uni but tired of the
>> academic attitude and puerile students so I dropped out to admin full
>> time. I may go back one day, but I can't forsee yet what day it'll be.
>
>With a chance of sounding like an old mother hen since I'm twice as old as
you
>and "been there" - DO go back and don't put it off too long. Anymore they
want
>janitors to have technical degrees in "custodial engineering". Once the
>kiddies get into the picture it's a really SOB to get to where you have the
>time and resources.
Sam Ismail wrote:
> On Sun, 1 Mar 1998, Russ Blakeman wrote:
>
> > Anyone know of a museum/collection site with info on this, or have info
> > on it themselves? I'd like to see what it is before I decide to gut it
> > for the drives or keep ot for my oddities collection.
>
> Do NOT gut this baby. It is truly a classic. I hope Marvin
> (marvin(a)raing.org) pipes up about this because he seems to be the resident
> Vector guru around here, but I haven't seen a post from him in a little
> while.
>
> Add this one to your collection.
>
> Sam Alternate e-mail: dastar(a)siconic.com
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Computer Historian, Programmer, Musician, Philosopher, Athlete, Writer, Jackass
Hey me too on this one
--------------------------------------------------------------^^^^
Anyway I finally powered it up after jumpering the broken power toggle and it works
as far as the monitor powering and giving me video garbage. The hard drive is a
Seagate 5 mb and the floppy is a Tandon 720k belt drive. It appears to have a
printer port as well and only one open connection in the card cage. Although a
little dirty and dusty she's in beautiful shape needing a good repair and
replacement of the antiglare mesh.
If Marvin doesn't raise his ugly head (so to speak) I'll have to grab him by the
trackball and see what he has to say about it.
Add to my collection? I think not as the dining room is no longer a dining room,
it's a computer docking bay.
Thanks a bunch for the info...
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RB Custom Services / Rt. 1 Box 62E / Harned, KY USA 40144
Phone: (502) 756-1749 / Data/Fax:(502) 756-6991
Email: rhblake(a)bbtel.com or rhblake(a)bigfoot.com
Website: http://members.tripod.com/~RHBLAKE/
* Parts/Service/Upgrades and more for MOST Computers*
--------------------------------------------------------------------
Does anyone have any upgrade board for PCs? I said 486, but I mean
any such thing. This is part of a desire to find a way to salvage some
systems. Does anyone have any MCA upgrade boards? There are some PS/2
286 towers, which I would take if I could upgrade them to something
32-bit
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[tony duell]
:> "lart"?
:Lusr Attidute Readjustment Tool... What you want to use on the idiot
:who's just fed a banana through the card reader :-)
hehehe :> the only irritating thing about you, tony, is that everything
we say we want, you pop up and say you've got ;> we have a feeling that
eventually all obsolete computer equipment in britain will gravitate to
chez duell...
:I always thoguht the Commodore method of keeping the disk turning
:at the same speed and changing the data rate made more sense.
:Certainly seeking would be faster as you wouldn't have to wait for
:the disk speed to change and stabilise.
on the other hand, it makes the electronics more difficult, as suddenly
you have to design a pll that will reliably lock to about 10 different
data rates, rather than just one, not to mention making sure the
controller can handle it. to make it practical to decode in software,
the apple probably got it right - and let's face it, certainly in later
years commodore never really got the hang of the speed disks should run
at... also, it's worth bearing in mind that the mac had a very fine
grain of control over the speed of the disk drive originally, and could
bump it up a notch (out of 400 or so) if it was running a little on the
slow side. because the data decode was in software, that was feasible.
:> it wasn't a cheap design, but it was what the ibm should have
:>been if it *had* to use that particular architecture...
:Having looked at a number of non-PC 8088/8086 machines, I am
:convinced that _all_ of them are superior to the IBM PC...
not hard, given the design principles of the pc. on the other hand,
they're still hamstrung by the basic architecture of the thing.
were there any non-pc-compatible 286 machines produced? the original
apricot xen series springs to mind, but how good was that?
[daybreak]
:> hmm - so how much did you pay for it then...? :>
:\pounds 10.00 including 19" mono monitor, floppy drive and tape
:streamer, but missing the keyboard and mouse. You're right - I did
:buy it.
just call us psychic ;>
[tiger]
:Rumour was that the selling price for the CPU unit (The CPU was in
:the keyboard case - it looks a little like a BBC micro with
:multi-coloured function keys) would have been around \pounds 3000.
:No wonder they never sold any...
no wonder. a case of not only completely missing the market, but also
the point...
-- Communa (together) we remember... we'll see you falling
you know soft spoken changes nothing to sing within her...
Net-Tamer V 1.08X - Test Drive
That's one of the things with PC's... they're all software-standard, but
hardware versatile. For 486's, there's the Pentium Overdrives that some
boards were equipped with (but Intel cut off the overdrives early), then
there's also about 50 differnet chips that actually plug into the ZIF
Socket, the fastest being the Evergreen one, which is based on a AMD K5 133,
and has equivelent performance to that of a Pentium 102MHz. For the Zeineth
PCs that the government bought in the 80's, the CPU was on a daughterboard,
so that you could upgrade that to a 386, but God help you try to find one of
those.
-----Original Message-----
From: Max Eskin <maxeskin(a)hotmail.com>
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
Date: Tuesday, March 03, 1998 2:13 AM
Subject: 486 upgrade boards
>Does anyone have any upgrade board for PCs? I said 486, but I mean
>any such thing. This is part of a desire to find a way to salvage some
>systems. Does anyone have any MCA upgrade boards? There are some PS/2
>286 towers, which I would take if I could upgrade them to something
>32-bit
>
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Found in a box of stuff rescued (via a friend)..FWIW the box this
thing was in,
was IBM factory labeled... Board, measuring approx 6 in x 3 in. at the
top left is
a centronix female connector. About 3/4 in to the right, is what appears
to be a RCA
type phono jack. The part number on the board is 79F4761.. There appears
to be
two (memory?) sockets on it, one of which is empty, the other has a
label on it, that
reads as follows:
239X .STD
V0.86
92-2-27 23A7
Inscribed directly on the chip is:
-150DC
1506NOT
(copyright symbol) 1988 AMD
Can anybody clue me in on this thing?
AdvTHANKSance,
Will
To: Jim Sciuto, "Gold Recovery Expert"
http://www.tiac.net/users/quiksand/goldtek.htm
I invite you to take the time to discover the wonderful efforts a group
of dedicated individuals around the globe are engaged in to preserve
some of the historically significant vintage computer equipment that you
may be scrapping for its precious metals. In some cases, the machines
you are melting down have more historic value than any monetary value
you may be extracting from their circuits.
I realize this is how you make your living, but I think you will find
the efforts of these computer preservations at least interesting, if not
compelling.
Any assistance you can afford us in preserving the more rare artifacts
of our computer heritage that you come in contact with or possesion of
would be much appreciated. I invite you to visit the Vintage Computer
Festival web page:
http://www.siconic.com/vcf
Sincerely,
Sam Ismail
Vintage Technology Cooperative
http://www.siconic.com/vcf
Greetings list-friends....
Though I mainly Lurk here, with your kind indulgence I would like to
add another fiber to the 'WRU' thread now extant, because it is so
fascinating seeing the "unity-in-diversity" theme alive and well.
I am 46 and currently chief engineer at one of the big LA movie
studios. It's an awful lot of fun with a little stress thrown in
>from time to time, just to keep me awake.
I have two inter-related Main Interests: music and electronics. I
began piano at 6, organ at 12, and in HS and college played also
various things with bows and strings. When I was 11, my father took
me to his work one saturday, and I was allowed *inside* the
glass-enclosed shrine where the newly installed GE 635 lived in all
it's glory. I was utterly hooked. I had to have one, right then, in
my room, mine all mine. It was the *smell* also, the warm
electronics, the smell of the tape, and the sound...
After college (BSEE) and the Draft, I worked at various
music-related tech jobs thru the 70's and early 80's, then did some
years as a systems analyst and data comm products manager for a Big
Phone Company. Got my fill of computer-programming; I'm a hardware
guy. Along the way I filed some patents, wrote a few papers and some
short stories, and recorded hours of often-forgettable music.
Then the movie business happened, and the rest is geography.
Currently I have six PDP-11 systems in various states of being and
about twenty or so micros and related items strewn all over the
house... my living room now looks like a circa-Seventies college
computing center. I also have a Pent-100 machine under W95, an AST
486/33 for fax and voice mail, and a Mac PPC and MAC SE in my home
studio... which brings up my other (sort-of related) collection,
vintage electronic instruments. I have many older keyboards and synth
modules, including a pretty big Moog and a few ARPS, etc. I have a
fantasy of running Music IV (or Csound) under Unix on the PDP 15 with
period DACs providing signals to the Moog.... a living early 70's
music research lab. Maybe the Minc-11.... naw, never mind.
I've held a Ham radio ticket for many years, and just now I'm
about two weeks away from getting a pilot's license, *if* the
examiner and the weather are co-incident and *if* I pass the damn
checkride... oops, off topic. sorry.
I share Tim Shoppa's concern for preservation of recorded media,
and I am very active in the restoration and preservation of the
record of our society before it is gone forever. This is the main
drive for my collection.... also I have, like Sam, many thousands of
books, and among them several dozen computer-related ones, from the
late forties on. It's very true: anyone can get hardware, but the
docs, well, there's another thing entirely.
I have a webpage, which I need badly to revise, but here is a view
of some of the collection: www.lightsound.org. Now I really *must*
get it brought up-to-date.. ;}
Okay: enough bandwidth for one evening. E-mail is welcome and
checked often.
Cheers
John
Well, here's my bio:
I am a 31-year-old banker in Syosset (Long Island), New York. Many of my
waking hours involve lending millions to near-bankrupt companies without a
clue. It's not sexy, but it's a job <g>. As expected, I worked at Radio
Shack from high school through college (I even got a 5-year service pin)
Anyway, I digress. I really began collecting old computers about three
years ago. It all started with the VIC-20 that I got when I was in junior
high school (my all-time favorite; I learned 6502 machine language on that
machine. Snif, snif. Sigh). From there, I added a Fat Mac that I owned in
college. Then, a PET 4032 system (a gift from my former junior high school
computer teacher), an IBM Datamaster (blown F8 ROM :-( Now a useless POS),
two Tandy Model 1's (one 4k, one 16k, with expansion chassis; works fine), a
complete Model 100 system (with DVI and monitor), and an original IBM PC
with expansion chassis. That was it for a long time. Then, I found this
group...
Well, I've loaded up on an Apple ][+, an Apple /// with a ProFile HD,
several more VIC-20's (spares if anyone needs parts), a C64, several other
CBM parts, a Compaq SLT/286 and dock (not really a classic, but free, all
25+ lbs of it), an original Atari 2600 in the box, a complete Apple //gs
system, a Mac SE/30, and a Northstar Horizon with many random boards (this
is my next fix-up project).
I also have some software that I've collected (not all originals,
though): DOS 1.1 through 6.22, Windoze 1.01, 2.0, 3.0, etc., VisiCalc,
Lotus, and others.
Then came my "drive and get it" phase, aka, the too big and heavy to
ship. I have a Sun 3/50 and shoebox (more on this later), a DEC uVax-I in a
BA23 case with several RD52 drives, and a complete PDP-11/34 system. This
was the best - a complete system, just as if the guy ordered it 20 years ago
with all manuals and enough spares to last a lifetime. I still don't have a
complete inventory of the spare parts, but the rack has 2 RK05 drives, the
CPU, and an expansion chassis. I just picked-up several RK05 disk packs with
the original RT-11 distribution on it. It came with several boxes of
documentation, and several binders that clip into a metal holder (like would
hold the OED dictionary).
My major focus from here on (because my wife has *suggested* that I have
enough computers) is fill-in stuff:
* Commodore software/hardware (cartridge slot expander, speech synth,
IEEE card, games)
* Apple game software/hardware (i.e., paddles and joysticks)
* Apple Lisa (not really fill-in, but I can always slip one by...)
* IMSAI 8080 (this one is pre-authorized by the "computer police")
* Copy-II-PC card
* PDP stuff for transferring files (maybe a paper tape reader/punch).
I'm also in the process of
getting an RX02 drive for my system.
* Embedded/SBC stuff (like a KIM-1 or SYM-1)
* Intel iAPX432 processor set
I also am looking for non-classic stuff along the lines of embedded-PC
stuff (x86 PC card on an ISA backplane, for example; for experimentation). I
also have a passing interest in robotics (I'm specing a Mars rover style
autonomous robot), gardening, and golf.
Rich Cini/WUGNET
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ClubWin! Charter Member (6)
MCP Windows 95/Windows Networking
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[tony duell]
:> Looser Attitude Readjustment Tool. LART. Usually a big stick,
:>but can be anything handy that can inflict pain and suffering
:>upon loosers who don't know a calculator from a computer and
:>think Bill Gates is Good.
:Well, my calculator has a homebrew I2C interface on it, which I've
:used to control a robot arm,etc. I've written self-modifying RPL on
:it, and I've programmed it in its native (Saturn) machine code. I'm
:not sure I can tell a calculator from a computer...
erm... doesn't that beg the question - does hewlett-packard actually
know the difference between a calculator and a computer...?
(or do their design engineers just design things they can hack between
meetings? ;> )
-- Communa (together) we remember... we'll see you falling
you know soft spoken changes nothing to sing within her...
Net-Tamer V 1.08X - Test Drive
I have heard enough on this topic without understanding what it meant!
What is the difference between vector and bitmapped graphics, and who
was first to use each? Why are vector graphics stereotypically used
in mainframes and bitmapped used in cheap weenie "home computers"?
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