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by maxeskin＠hotmail.com

Today was a good day at the thrift store- could you folks tell me fair prices for the following (as well as any requests) 2 Apple GS programs w/all docs and boxes. Anyone want? A Zenith eaZy PC, a 286 easily mistakable for a dumb terminal. It's cool but priced $30 A TI 99/4A - how much should I pay and what processor does it use An ISA card claiming on its box to be a UPS - if it's still there, I will take it tomorrow ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

28 years, 2 months

Nintendo Stuff...

by photze＠batelco.com.bh

Hi. I've got a few questions, some are on topic, some arn't. 1) How do you get into the case of a NES? (Origional Nintendo, 8 bit) What's inside? (Other than the 6502) 2) What about SNES? 3) Gameboy? 4) (Off-topic) what processor does the Virtual Boy use? What kind of stuff? Emulators avaible? How do I transfer ROMS? Thanks again, Tim D. Hotze

28 years, 2 months

Irreverence to irrelevance

by jfoust＠threedee.com

Tony Duell <ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk> wrote: >BTW, how are you getting on with that ASR-33? Need any more help? I can >look up details for you, and attempt to describe the bits in question. I found someone who was willing to xerox the service manual for me at cost, approximately USD $4-8. Someone else wanted to sell me the set for $20. Being a "millionaire cheapskate", I took the former, assuming the latter would still be there if I needed it. :-) Along the same line, if anyone has a spare current-loop to RS-232 adapter that would cost less than a new one, I'd love to get it. I believe my Terak handles 20 ma, but I'd rather have a more generic link from the ASR-33 to other computers. >I was half -joking, don't worry. If I seriously considered that the ASR33 >was off-topic, do you think I'd type up and post sections from the repair >manuals? I very much appreciated that. Above and beyond the call of duty. I joined the "Greenkeys" mailing list, a ham radio RTTY list. I described my web page regarding old ASCII art, and one fellow sent me a box of 30-40 year-old RTTY ASCII art - pictures of President Eisenhower, etc. Some is printed, some is Baudot 5-level tape, some 7-bit tape. >Yes, that definition is very wide. It would allow mechanical >calculators and things like that (anybody got strong views on keeping >these off the list?). As a teen, I remember disassembling a Freiden (?) calculator, and finding a wire loop memory, several circles about a foot in diameter. But the calculator collectors have their own lists, don't they? - John Jefferson Computer Museum <http://www.threedee.com/jcm>

28 years, 2 months

Time/Date stamper

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Mar 20, 17:02, Max Eskin wrote: > Subject: Time/Date stamper > I recently picked up a time/date stamper from the trash. It is a > box with a slot, and when a paper is inserted, the paper is stamped. > The first year on the stamping drum is 1951, so I assume that's when > it was made. It uses a cloth ribbon for ink. How do I reink it? The stuff that's used to re-ink dot-matrix printer ribbons will probably do. What colour was the original? A lot of these used blue. If you have a good stationary supplier nearby, the stuff to ask for is "endorsing ink" which is what's used to re-ink endorsing-stamp (rubber-stamp) pads. Or use WD-40 to extract whatever life is left in the original, if it's dried up rather than exhausted. But go easy, don't add too much, and let it soak in for a while. > Also, the stamping has impressed the numbers into the rubber platen. How > do I get rid of that? When I ran litho printing presses (in a former life) we used a solvent called MEK (methyl ethyl ketone) to undo "blanket smashes" -- dents in the rubber offset blanket caused by crumpled paper under high pressure. It's also used to give the blanket an occasional extra-good clean. MEK is also used in the plastics industry as a solvent and to glue PVC and ABS. It shouldn't be too hard to find. Caution: it's very inflammable, it dissolves or at least attacks several types of plastic, removes ink as soon as you look at it, and also removes the natural oils from your skin, so don't wash you hands in it :-) -- Pete Peter Turnbull Dept. of Computer Science University of York

28 years, 2 months

More on setting-up Sun3 from tape

by rcini＠email.msn.com

On 23 Mar 1998 18:15:18 -0800, Frank McConnell <fmc(a)reanimators.org> wrote: >>I'm not sure what edlabel is, but if you are running SunOS, there ... The OS is NetBSD 1.2, and edlabel is the partitioning command available from the miniroot program loaded by the tape boot loader. >>So I'm guessing you want to set partition b to start at 29297 and be length 20480 (for 10MB, are you sure that is enough), and<< According to the NetBSD FAQ, the swap partition is to be 2 to 3 times the size of the RAM, which is 4mb. >>Or am I missing something here? My math came out similar to yours, too. However, I keep getting the "ioctrl" error message, which does not show up in the man pages that I have. So...I'm appealing to the great Unix minds congregating in this list to shed some light. edlabel allows me to create the "a" partition, but no others. ================================== Rich Cini/WUGNET - Charter ClubWin! Member (6) - MCP Windows 95/Windows Networking - Collector of classic computers

28 years, 2 months

FWIW: Data General One Laptop spotted for sale

by Marty＠itgonline.com

I paid $5.00 for my Data General One. It's a piece of junk. The screen is IMPOSSIBLE to read, just as Data General boasts about it (go figure this for something to be proud of) at their web site. It is a large and heavy laptop and from a collector standpoint, in my opinion, isn't worth persuing unless you can get it on the cheap $15.00 to $25.00 maximum as a curiosity. An 8086/8088 system by any other name is an 8086/8088 system. $500.00 is a joke. Dream on. Marty Mintzell ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: FWIW: Data General One Laptop spotted for sale Author: classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu at internet Date: 3/25/98 1:46 AM On Tue, 24 Mar 1998, Greg Troutman wrote: > > > >We have an OLD Data General One Laptop from 1983!!!! > > > > He wants $500 for it. Such a deal :-) > > He also said at the end, "No reasonable offer refused." Just curious, > what would you consider to be a reasonable offer for one of these. Or > perhaps more to the point, exactly what is one of these? ;) The DG/One was a fairly non-descript early 8086 laptop. According to DG's website, it was the "first truly portable" PC and they made 43,000 of them: http://www.dg.com/about/html/dg-one.html I don't know what a reasonable offer would be, but it's apparently more than the $15 I offered :-) GRiD's clamshell-style Compass laptop preceded the DG/One by a couple of years (and the GRiD is *much* cooler, IMHO). Perhaps the DG/One was the first battery-powered PC-compatible laptop? I can't think of an earlier one of the top of my head. -- Doug ------ Message Header Follows ------ Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu by smtp.itgonline.com (PostalUnion/SMTP(tm) v2.1.9i(b5) for Windows NT(tm)) id AA-1998Mar25.014640.1767.33770; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 01:46:40 -0500 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id VAA10991; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 21:36:57 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id VAA31470 for <classiccmp(a)lists.u.washington.edu>; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 21:36:49 -0800 Received: from behemoth.host4u.net (behemoth.host4u.net [209.150.128.29]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id VAA06816 for <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 21:36:48 -0800 Received: from localhost (yowza@localhost) by behemoth.host4u.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA24149 for <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 23:36:46 -0600 Message-Id: <Pine.LNX.3.95.980324232833.32316P-100000(a)behemoth.host4u.net> Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 23:36:46 -0600 (CST) Reply-To: classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu Sender: CLASSICCMP-owner(a)u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Doug Yowza <yowza(a)yowza.com> To: "Discussion re-collecting of classic computers" <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> Subject: Re: FWIW: Data General One Laptop spotted for sale In-Reply-To: <3518960C.6C568139(a)crl.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> X-Sender: yowza(a)behemoth.host4u.net X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

28 years, 2 months

Unix source licenses available soon?

by dastar＠wco.com

I just got this message from someone inside SCO. The only reason I don't post his e-mail address is because I don't know if he wanted people bombarding him with questions or requests for information. But I thought this might be of interest in case nobody else has heard. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 09:42:19 PST From: Dion Johnson To: Sam Ismail <dastar(a)wco.com> Subject: yo I just finished arranging a nearly-free source license for people who want old UNIX sources Edition1-7. There are about 400 people in the PDP-1 Unix Preservation Society! (minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au) I work for SCO and did the wrangling with the legal eagles, and yes it was a side project. It costs $100, but we will waive that fee for hardship/justifiable cases -Dion Sam Alternate e-mail: dastar(a)siconic.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Computer Historian, Programmer, Musician, Philosopher, Athlete, Writer, Jackass Coming Soon...Vintage Computer Festival 2.0 See http://www.siconic.com/vcf for details!

28 years, 2 months

Wargames

by maxeskin＠hotmail.com

>Which only goes to show that the spirit of curiosity and challenge that >motivated the rest of us to stay up all night writing code (or playing >Zork) is not dead. > >What's even better is that the younger members of this list have combined >that spirit with a sense of history; they will not be reinventing the >wheel, but will be building on it. > >If you don't know why screens were traditionally 80 columns wide, you don't >know if it's okay to toss that idea aside should the technology allows it. > Why ARE screens 80 Cols wide? >--------------------------------------------------------------------- O- > >Uncle Roger "There is pleasure pure in being mad >roger(a)sinasohn.com that none but madmen know." >Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates >San Francisco, California http://www.sinasohn.com/ > > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

28 years, 2 months

Wargames

by weese＠mind.net

> Yes, in "Wargames," the military did refer to the compuer as WOPR (War > Operations Planned Response), while the creator of the computer, and to the > hero, it was Joshua (the creator's dead son). Not sure what Capn Napalm meant by that, the thing I remember is that "Joshua" was (in addition to being the name of the computer creator's dead son, the light of his life) the secret #2 backdoor password to get in..... _____________________________________________ hoping to someday have half a brain, --- mikey weese(a)mind.net

28 years, 2 months

OS/2, Finally getting closer to what it's worth...

by bill_r＠inetnebr.com

Anybody need a paperweight? If it's from someone named "Carp", it's got to be good... >FS: 630 Copies, shrink wrapped, OS/2 ver. 3.0 (Warp) Blue Spine. > >$20. ea. plus s/h & COD. This edition includes the Bonus Pack. > >Yours truly, >Quantalytics, Inc. > >Arthur J. Carp >516.295.3230 (phone & fax, auto-switched) >mailto:quant@dti.net >http://home.dti.net/quant/forsale/forsale.html > > -Bill Richman bill_r(a)inetnebr.com http://incolor.inetnebr.com/bill_r (Home of the COSMAC Elf Simulator!)

28 years, 2 months

System/34 again

by maxeskin＠hotmail.com

Open the panel below the CE Panel. A bit to your right is a vertical board w/lots of screw terminals. I need the voltages of the screw terminals when the system is running >[Sys/34 and Voltmeters.] >Well. My 34 has power, runs, and I think I can use a voltmeter. >I've measured batteries and such with it. If told what to do, cahnces are good >I can get the voltages you need/ >------- > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

28 years, 2 months

System/34 again

by maxeskin＠hotmail.com

> >About 25-50 pounds in weight never mind cost. > ><b)Using a bunch of PC power supplies to power the DC components. ><My first problem is how I trick a PC/AT power supply to stay on when ><it's not hooked up to anything. Do I need to short something? > >Don't do it. First, switching powersupplies get real upset if the are not >loaded to some minimum point, they gernerally don't like running in >parallel and the other is power sequencing. What's power sequencing? ><Next is the problem of pinouts on the 34. There is ground and +5v ><labelled clearly. THere is also a circuit board with lots of screw ><terminals. Could someone tell me the voltages on those (it's a board ><right below the CE panel and a bit on the right)? > >Get and learn to use volmeters. There may be unsafe voltages or currents >at low voltages that can be dangerous. Also miswiring could toast the >machine fully and very completely. I have voltmeters, and know how to use them, but they aren't much use when there is no way to power the thing. > >Allison > > > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

28 years, 2 months

Apple ][ clones?

by TOwad＠aol.com

I'd recommend consulting Gaylord Hill <GaylordHil(a)aol.com>. He specializes in Apple II clones. Sincerely, Tom Owad >I used to be a big Apple ][ fan, but I really can't recall any early Apple >clones that match this description: > >"Apple II clone, either a peach or an Apricot, looks like an Apple II, but >has extended keyboard, also has upper and lower case, shift keys work on >all characters, not just on a few like Apple II. Cover is White Plastic, >condition of cover and keyboard good. No label on cover. No identification >on Motherboard."

28 years, 2 months

Commodore 128D for sale

by archive＠navix.net

Greets: A lady contacted me recently with the following description of a pretty good Commodore system she has for sale. I'm not going to get it, so I thought I'd pass it on to you folks. Please reply directly to her at RosemaryConte(a)worldnet.att.net --the message is as follows: I have a Com 128D computer, detachable keybd; 1571 disc dr; MPS 1000 printer; Magnavox RGB Display 80 monitor. Compat w/ Com 64 software; cables, software, etc. I'd like to get $100 for it. -- ___________________________________________________ | Cord G. Coslor : archive(a)navix.net |\ | Deanna S. Wynn : deannasue(a)navix.net | | |---------------------------------------------------| | | http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Vista/4395 | | |---------------------------------------------------| | | PO Box 308 - Peru, NE - 68421 - (402) 872- 3272 | | |___________________________________________________| | \____________________________________________________\|

28 years, 2 months

Mac II problem

by rexstout＠ptld.uswest.net

Here's the message I just sent to ClassicMacs mailing list, I'm too lazy to type it all again ;-) ============================= Just picked up a Mac II 5/80/two 800k FD's for $15(including a datatronics keyboard and an Apple mouse), with an ethernet card that everyone seemedd to think was a second video card... They said whenever they plugged a monitor into it, the computer shutdown. I hope it hasn't been destroyed... Anyways, it came with System 6.0.5, Word 4.0 and Illustrator 88(and tons of documents for both programs), all of which have already been deleted. Problem is that I'm having trouble getting System 7.0 to run. At first I couldn't get it to boot at all from the disk tools disk, then I finally installed it onto one of the three partitions and deleted the Sys6 system folder. Then it still woudn't boot. I took out the ethernet card and my PC Drive card(which I think may be bad). Now it tries two or three times minimum to boot from the hard drive, and usually refuses to boot from the floppy(although that may be fixed now, I'm not sure). The Apple HD SC Setup on the Disk Tools disk did not see the disk, so I went back to my PowerMac which had a copy of a hacked HD SC Setup I had downloaded. Back to the II, where the disk refused to boot. OK, I finally got it to boot from the HD, then I opened the floppy, and then the system folder. Finally the normal System Folder icon is back and it boots again. I launch the hacked HD SC Setup and it sees a disk at SCSI ID 6(I haven't changed that yet, I need to take the HD out and find the info on it), but it can't reformat. It says it can't prepare the disk for initialization, no particular reason is given... Current config right now is 5/80 with the two 800k drives, and the Radius Pivot interface. Any ideas? I'm stumped. ============================= -------------------------------------------------------------- | http://members.tripod.com/~jrollins/index.html - Computers | | http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Lair/1681/ - Star Trek | | orham(a)qth.net list admin call sign coming soon... | --------------------------------------------------------------

28 years, 2 months

HP Win 3.1 -- off topic, but need help

by engine＠chac.org

Yesterday I did the Silicon Valley Elderhostel comp. hist. lecture, and in the Q&A afterwards, a woman from one of the gold rush ~ghost towns in the Sierra said that her school had been given two HP Vectra 486's, but with no OS's. HP has been forced to follow MS' ultimatum (who but MS could or would step on HP?) and can only supply her with Win95, which these boxes don't have the horsepower for, on CD, but.... no CD drives either. She badly needs HP Vectra OEM Windows 3.1(1) on 3.5" floppies, and HP's response to her is basically "We're only allowed to tell you that that never existed." Can anybody help with a copy? TVMIA -- __________________________________________ Kip Crosby engine(a)chac.org http://www.chac.org/index.html Computer History Association of California

28 years, 2 months

CMOS Battery for PC/AT

by djenner＠halcyon.com

I picked up an original PC/AT that has a dead lithium battery for the CMOS bios parameter storage. The battery says it's 6.8 volts. It's the kind that is a 1/2x1x2 inch pack with a six-inch lead. I've tried several places to find a replacement, but either a store doesn't have it, or, if they have one, the voltage is not exactly 6.8 volts. So, what's the acceptable voltage range, especially on the low end? And any good sources? Thanks, Dave

28 years, 2 months

DING DING! Back to your corners... WAS: Re: Irreverence to irrelevance

by lfb107＠psu.edu

I think we all need to take a step back, grab a few drinks, and try and look at what's going on here. So far, everyone has had some valid points. If we interpret the FAQ literally than perhaps Sam is right. I would tend to believe, however, that Bill Whitson's original idea was to have "liberal" restrictions on the group so as to perpetuate discussion of "classic" computers. Not all posts have adhered to the exact words of the FAQ. Some examples might be posts on logic probes or on "orphaned" machines that aren't necessarily 10 years old. The idea behind these posts is that it might be something that interests people who like to talk about classic computers or that this mailing list might actually be the best place to get info on that topic. There are noted exceptions of course, but I think that what would be best would be to ignore these posts and just delete them as was earlier suggested. I guess the main thing I'm trying to say is that the FAQ should'nt be treated as gospel but as *general* guidelines that should (normally) be adhered to. This means that instead of launching inquistions against people who may post off topic, a "Hey, please try and stay on topic for now on, but, yeah, I don't like AIWA CD players either" would be nice. There really is no need to attack poeple either. We all have our "allegiences" and we've all probably have had some kind of altercation with Sam in the past but I really think that we shouldn't take all this THAT seriously! Sam has called me an ass recently too. SO WHAT? I sent an e-mail back to him and called him an asshole too. CASE CLOSED. We're ALL assholes to some degree but when it comes down to it, if I need help putting an Apple II back together (something I know NOTHING about) than Sam is here to help. So... on that note. I am in need of some old removable SyQuest disks for an SQ555 drive. (the 44mb variety) Anybody know where I might find some? The local 'puter store still sells them for $40 a pop! Thanks, Les lfb107(a)psu.edu

28 years, 2 months

Washington DC area classics?

by Marty＠itgonline.com

Sorry about the typo's on my earlier response. If you are in the DC area during early June, don't miss the Manassas (Virginia) ham fest hosted by the Ole Virginia Hams, you should find some classics there. Otherwise check the local flea markets, thrift shops, yard sales etc. ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: Washington DC area classics? Author: classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu at internet Date: 3/24/98 11:57 AM Thanks for the info. Also, can I ask wherey ou can *get* classics? Seeing as I'm going to being in Guyana for a couple'a years, I'll need something to do... Cheers, Tim D. Hotze -----Original Message----- From: Marty <Marty(a)itgonline.com> To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> Date: Tuesday, March 24, 1998 7:40 PM Subject: Re: Washington DC area classics? > National Museum of American History, 'Information Age: People, > Information and Technolgy' is a permanent exhibit. Curator of > cumpeters is David K. Allison. Museum is located at 14th Street and > Constitution Avenue on the Mall. Also, the Air and Space Museum, also > located on the Mall has a curator of areospace computing but I don't > know what is on display. The National Museum of American History is on > the web @ www.si.edu/organiza/museums/nmah/ > > Marty Mintzell > > > >______________________________ Reply Separator >_________________________________ >Subject: Washington DC area classics? >Author: classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu at internet >Date: 3/24/98 11:23 AM > > > Hi. I'm going to be going to Washington DC from early July to late July, > and I wanted to know if anyone knew any specific places that I might be able > to find classics while there. > Thanks, > > Tim D. Hotze > > > ------ Message Header Follows ------ > Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu by smtp.itgonline.com > (PostalUnion/SMTP(tm) v2.1.9i(b5) for Windows NT(tm)) > id AA-1998Mar24.112302.1767.33662; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 11:23:03 -0500 > Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) > by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP > id IAA28268; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 08:13:15 -0800 > Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) > by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP > id IAA44194 for <classiccmp(a)lists.u.washington.edu>; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 > 08:13:03 -0800 > Received: from sv10.batelco.com.bh (sv10.batelco.com.bh [193.188.97.227]) > by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP > id IAA24464 for <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 08:13:01 > > -0800 > Received: from hotze ([193.188.98.88]) by sv10.batelco.com.bh > (post.office MTA v1.9.3b ID# 0-13092) with SMTP id AAA19413 > for <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>; > Tue, 24 Mar 1998 19:13:04 +0300 > Message-Id: <003901bd573f$d1b38040$b162bcc1@hotze> > Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 19:12:44 +0300 > Reply-To: classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu > Sender: CLASSICCMP-owner(a)u.washington.edu > Precedence: bulk > From: "Hotze" <photze(a)batelco.com.bh> > To: "Discussion re-collecting of classic computers" > <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> > Subject: Washington DC area classics? > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > X-To: "Classic Computer" <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> > X-Priority: 3 > X-MSMail-Priority: Normal > X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 > X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN > ------ Message Header Follows ------ Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu by smtp.itgonline.com (PostalUnion/SMTP(tm) v2.1.9i(b5) for Windows NT(tm)) id AA-1998Mar24.115727.1767.33674; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 11:57:28 -0500 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id IAA01097; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 08:43:15 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id IAA16926 for <classiccmp(a)lists.u.washington.edu>; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 08:43:09 -0800 Received: from sv10.batelco.com.bh (sv10.batelco.com.bh [193.188.97.227]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA24070 for <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 08:43:06 -0800 Received: from hotze ([193.188.98.18]) by sv10.batelco.com.bh (post.office MTA v1.9.3b ID# 0-13092) with SMTP id AAA24233 for <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 19:43:08 +0300 Message-Id: <004701bd5744$053fc5a0$b162bcc1@hotze> Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 19:43:43 +0300 Reply-To: classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu Sender: CLASSICCMP-owner(a)u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Hotze" <photze(a)batelco.com.bh> To: "Discussion re-collecting of classic computers" <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> Subject: Re: Washington DC area classics? 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28 years, 2 months

RA90

by DSEAGRAV＠toad.xkl.com

Oh, smaller is good! I assume it's lighter, too? (Is this something I can lift myself? Carrying that RA81 was a real pain in the a**!) -------

28 years, 2 months

Wargames

by sinasohn＠ricochet.net

At 06:50 PM 3/22/98 -0600, you wrote: >> >I just saw Wargames; what an excellent movie! I encourage >Is it just me or have these movies been out and already been tossed in >the bargain rental area at the video stores? You guys need to get out Um, I believe there are folks on this list who weren't *born* when that movie came out. Which only goes to show that the spirit of curiosity and challenge that motivated the rest of us to stay up all night writing code (or playing Zork) is not dead. What's even better is that the younger members of this list have combined that spirit with a sense of history; they will not be reinventing the wheel, but will be building on it. If you don't know why screens were traditionally 80 columns wide, you don't know if it's okay to toss that idea aside should the technology allows it. --------------------------------------------------------------------- O- Uncle Roger "There is pleasure pure in being mad roger(a)sinasohn.com that none but madmen know." Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates San Francisco, California http://www.sinasohn.com/

28 years, 2 months

Washington DC area classics?

by photze＠batelco.com.bh

Thanks for the info. Also, can I ask wherey ou can *get* classics? Seeing as I'm going to being in Guyana for a couple'a years, I'll need something to do... Cheers, Tim D. Hotze -----Original Message----- From: Marty <Marty(a)itgonline.com> To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> Date: Tuesday, March 24, 1998 7:40 PM Subject: Re: Washington DC area classics? > National Museum of American History, 'Information Age: People, > Information and Technolgy' is a permanent exhibit. Curator of > cumpeters is David K. Allison. Museum is located at 14th Street and > Constitution Avenue on the Mall. Also, the Air and Space Museum, also > located on the Mall has a curator of areospace computing but I don't > know what is on display. The National Museum of American History is on > the web @ www.si.edu/organiza/museums/nmah/ > > Marty Mintzell > > > >______________________________ Reply Separator >_________________________________ >Subject: Washington DC area classics? >Author: classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu at internet >Date: 3/24/98 11:23 AM > > > Hi. I'm going to be going to Washington DC from early July to late July, > and I wanted to know if anyone knew any specific places that I might be able > to find classics while there. > Thanks, > > Tim D. Hotze > > > ------ Message Header Follows ------ > Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu by smtp.itgonline.com > (PostalUnion/SMTP(tm) v2.1.9i(b5) for Windows NT(tm)) > id AA-1998Mar24.112302.1767.33662; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 11:23:03 -0500 > Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) > by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP > id IAA28268; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 08:13:15 -0800 > Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) > by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP > id IAA44194 for <classiccmp(a)lists.u.washington.edu>; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 > 08:13:03 -0800 > Received: from sv10.batelco.com.bh (sv10.batelco.com.bh [193.188.97.227]) > by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP > id IAA24464 for <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 08:13:01 > > -0800 > Received: from hotze ([193.188.98.88]) by sv10.batelco.com.bh > (post.office MTA v1.9.3b ID# 0-13092) with SMTP id AAA19413 > for <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>; > Tue, 24 Mar 1998 19:13:04 +0300 > Message-Id: <003901bd573f$d1b38040$b162bcc1@hotze> > Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 19:12:44 +0300 > Reply-To: classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu > Sender: CLASSICCMP-owner(a)u.washington.edu > Precedence: bulk > From: "Hotze" <photze(a)batelco.com.bh> > To: "Discussion re-collecting of classic computers" > <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> > Subject: Washington DC area classics? > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > X-To: "Classic Computer" <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> > X-Priority: 3 > X-MSMail-Priority: Normal > X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 > X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN >

28 years, 2 months

Washington DC area classics?

by Marty＠itgonline.com

National Museum of American History, 'Information Age: People, Information and Technolgy' is a permanent exhibit. Curator of cumpeters is David K. Allison. Museum is located at 14th Street and Constitution Avenue on the Mall. Also, the Air and Space Museum, also located on the Mall has a curator of areospace computing but I don't know what is on display. The National Museum of American History is on the web @ www.si.edu/organiza/museums/nmah/ Marty Mintzell ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Washington DC area classics? Author: classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu at internet Date: 3/24/98 11:23 AM Hi. I'm going to be going to Washington DC from early July to late July, and I wanted to know if anyone knew any specific places that I might be able to find classics while there. Thanks, Tim D. Hotze ------ Message Header Follows ------ Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu by smtp.itgonline.com (PostalUnion/SMTP(tm) v2.1.9i(b5) for Windows NT(tm)) id AA-1998Mar24.112302.1767.33662; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 11:23:03 -0500 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id IAA28268; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 08:13:15 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id IAA44194 for <classiccmp(a)lists.u.washington.edu>; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 08:13:03 -0800 Received: from sv10.batelco.com.bh (sv10.batelco.com.bh [193.188.97.227]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA24464 for <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 08:13:01 -0800 Received: from hotze ([193.188.98.88]) by sv10.batelco.com.bh (post.office MTA v1.9.3b ID# 0-13092) with SMTP id AAA19413 for <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 19:13:04 +0300 Message-Id: <003901bd573f$d1b38040$b162bcc1@hotze> Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 19:12:44 +0300 Reply-To: classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu Sender: CLASSICCMP-owner(a)u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Hotze" <photze(a)batelco.com.bh> To: "Discussion re-collecting of classic computers" <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> Subject: Washington DC area classics? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: "Classic Computer" <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

28 years, 2 months

Washington DC area classics?

by photze＠batelco.com.bh

Hi. I'm going to be going to Washington DC from early July to late July, and I wanted to know if anyone knew any specific places that I might be able to find classics while there. Thanks, Tim D. Hotze

28 years, 2 months

Russian PDP-11 info source

by healyzh＠ix.netcom.com

In case anyone is interested I found an odd source of a little info on a Russian PDP-11 the BK0010. The February issue (107) of Amiga Format, which should currently be available in the US, has a section on Emulators, and they talk about the BK0010. In my area both Barnes and Nobles, and Borders books carry the magazine, with Borders carrying the version with CD coverdisks for ~$15, and B&N carrying the Floppy coverdisk version for ~$10.50. The emulator wouldn't be on the floppies, but it MIGHT be on the CD, I don't know, I've not had time to look at my CD. There is an emulator available, but the minimum system requirements are a 68020 WorkBench 2, and 1Mb RAM. A 40Mhz 68030 is recommended to get full speed, and apparently a 68060 is to fast. In all it's only about 8 paragraphs, but it might be of interest to some of the PDP-11 enthusiasts on the list. I've no idea if the emulator is available for any other machines, but it might run in the Amiga emulator if you have a fast enough machine to run that on. Zane | Zane H. Healy | UNIX Systems Adminstrator | | healyzh(a)ix.netcom.com (primary) | Linux Enthusiast | | healyzh(a)holonet.net (alternate) | Classic Computer Collector | +----------------------------------+----------------------------+ | For Empire of the Petal Throne and Traveller Role Playing, | | see http://www.dragonfire.net/~healyzh/ | | For the collecting of Classic Computers with info on them. | | see http://www.dragonfire.net/~healyzh/museum.html |

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