<I've begun to feel that anyone who got into Field Circus work after
<'83 or so shouldn't be allowed any tools trickier than a screwdriver.
As someone that developed service planning and service products I'd agree
generally, 60% did not have the concept fo troubleshooting and were only
fair board swappers. However the remaining people tended to be highly
skilled with pride in their ability, most were very competent in
troubleshooting. There were many I'd go to for practical expertize as
the Ivory tower folk were far to isolated for my taste.
Allison
<I've seen TeX compiled by Turbo Pascal (TeX is written in Web, which can
<be converted into Pascal). IIRC it had to be split into sections to get
<over the 64K code limit of TP. I still have problems with the idea of
<running it _with enough space for the various variables_ in a 64K machin
The conversion process and pascal compiler adds weight.
<LaTeX is just a set of macros that run on top of TeX. I can assure you I
<know the difference. And how early? Before TeX82?
1979.
<TeX in itself has no idea what a printer is. It produces a DVI file whic
<is essentially a binary file describing which characters and 'rules'
<(lines) have to be put where. There's a printer driver which takes a DVI
<file and outputs the code for whatever printer you have.
Understood. Did a lot of work in printing for DEC and none slower than
12ppm.
The DVI is essentially a bit map and as a result for godd page can be
quite big. However the virtual window to disk file works and is
adaquately fast.
Allison
Hello,
I picked up a box with this Sun OS on 8 tapes.
3.5 domestic sunbin 68020 (boot format). 5 tapes
1.1 SunIPC-M sunbin 68010 (tar)
1.1 SunIPC-M sunbin 68020 (tar)
SCSI3 PATCH SUNBIN 68020 (tar)--hand written on box "Do Not Install Patch
with V. 3.5."
At present I can not use these tapes and do not know if they work.
I would *love* to score some cards for this MicroVax II (630QB-A2) that
had all the cards removed before I could get to it. Perhaps someone would
like to trade parts and/or knowledge for software?
The tapes are in what looks like an original box and really want to find a
good home.
I also seem to have an extra C64, Wang PC3, and an assortment of 8-bit PC
cards.
Thanks
Andy Campbell
akcampb(a)ibm.net
Although the hardware I'm mentioning is not in itself 'classic,' the
technology of 9-track tape certainly is. Forgive me if this seems
off-topic, but I'm trying to spare anyone else lucky enough to nab one or
more M4 Data 9914 tape drives some grief.
There is a potential problem spot in the early production (pre-1992, as I
recall) power supply boards to watch out for with these drives. The +12
rail is supplied by an LM350 in a TO-3 case. The leads from the 350 are
joined to a three-pin Molex connector that is then plugged into a matching
male header on the regulator board.
I've seen two failure modes in this design to date.
1). Failure of the regulator. Symptoms include initial startup OK,
followed by the +12 rail dropping to about 8.4 volts after no more than
three minutes. If the regulator output is examined with an O-scope, one
will see an AC potential of about 1.6 MHz at nearly two volts peak-to-peak.
Also of note is that the regulator gets a lot warmer than normal, as does
the bridge diode module supplying the regulator's input.
I've been told by M4's service department that the most common fix for
this is to replace capacitor C10 on the regulator board. There is also an
alternative cure, specifically replacing the LM350 with a Motorola MC78T12
in a TO-220 case (doesn't seem to be available in a TO-3).
Note that it is CRITICAL to use the 78T12, not a standard 7812. The 'T'
version has an output current rating of 3 amps, vs. the 1A rating of the
standard 7812. The +12 rail in these drives pulls about 2A under normal
operation.
2). Poor contact in the three-pin connector, which results in overheating
and connector burning. I saw this in the drive I got most recently. Since I
lacked a suitable replacement connector, I merely removed the male header
and the burned female connector, and then soldered the wires directly to
the pads.
Post-1992 drives have, I'm told, a completely redesigned power supply that
addresses these issues.
Caveat emptor!
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Bruce Lane, Sysop, The Dragon's Cave BBS (Fidonet 1:343/272)
(Hamateur: WD6EOS) (E-mail: kyrrin(a)jps.net)
"Our science can only describe an object, event, or living thing in our own
human terms. It cannot, in any way, define any of them..."
>I made a timely find today of the first edition of _Build Your Own
>Macintosh and Save a Bundle_. In Chapter 2 it has a price comparison
>between the clone "Cat" Mac and the real Mac. The computers it lists are:
>
>Cat Mac SE
>Cat Mac SE 30
>Cat Mac II
>Cat Mac IIfx
>Cat Mac IIcx
>Cat Mac IIci
I was referring to the actual clones. I'm not sure where it is in your
book, but in my 2nd edition, if you look at Chapter 11, Cat Mac builder
alternatives, you will see mention of the Mac clones Zane listed.
Tom Owad
But did Apple license this stuff or were they clean-room type clones?
Where did the user get an OS?
>>I made a timely find today of the first edition of _Build Your Own
>>Macintosh and Save a Bundle_. In Chapter 2 it has a price comparison
>>between the clone "Cat" Mac and the real Mac. The computers it lists
are:
>>
>>Cat Mac SE
>>Cat Mac SE 30
>>Cat Mac II
>>Cat Mac IIfx
>>Cat Mac IIcx
>>Cat Mac IIci
>
>I was referring to the actual clones. I'm not sure where it is in your
>book, but in my 2nd edition, if you look at Chapter 11, Cat Mac builder
>alternatives, you will see mention of the Mac clones Zane listed.
>
>Tom Owad
>
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>I've begun to feel that anyone who got into Field Circus work after
>'83 or so shouldn't be allowed any tools trickier than a screwdriver.
>
>Bill
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Hi Joe,
I'm interested in Catalyst. Let me know what you want for it (along
with the Lisa).
Sincerely,
Tom Owad
>Quark Catalyst IIe, Program selector for Apple IIe. (disks and book)
I have the following Apple II stuff for sale for the best offer. Everything
is in perfect condition. If you're interested contact me privately. I don't
have ANY Apple stuff that's not listed here.
Joe
Codex Training Program: Manage your Business with MultiPlan. (disks, book
and box)
MS Multi-Tool Financial Statement. (disks and book)
Quark Catalyst IIe, Program selector for Apple IIe. (disks and book)
MicroRef Quick Reference Guide (Word Perfect) DOS?
Perfect Link Telecommunications SW (disks, book and box)
PFS File Database Management. (disks, book and box)
PFS Convert 2 disks only
PFS Write Word Processor (disks, book and box)
PFS Graph Presentation Graphics (disks, book and box)
PFS Report generator (disks, book and box)
Hacker game (disks and book)
One-on-One basketball game. (disks and book)
Apple Logo computer language. (disks, book and box)
Super Calc 3a (disks, book and box)
Money Street checkbook financial system (disks, book and box)
Apple IIe Technical Reference Manual, hard cover ~390 pages
Jeeves, personal desktop organizer. (disks, book and box)
Computing with the Apple, softcover book
Alpha Graph, pie and bar charting program. (disks and book)
TaxVision, tax planner. (disks and book)
Mostly BASIC, Applications for your Apple II. ~160 page book
The Best Apple Software. By Editors of Consumer’s Guide. ~165 page book
MultiPlan for the Apple II Plus and IIe. (Training Guide). (disks and book)
Inside Apple ProDOS. ~305 page book
MS MultiPlan. (disks and book)
Sideways. (disks and book)
The Sider (manual and disks no hardware)
Apple Machine Language for Beginners by Compute ~430 page book
The Apple Personal computer for Beginners. ~240 page book
Practical Pascal Programs. ~205 page book
Minute Manual for PFS: File, Report, Graph, Write
The Endless Apple. ~ 270 page book
Vanloves Apple II/III Software Directory. a BUNCH of pages
The BASIC Conversions HandBook for Apple, TRS-80 and Pet Users. ~80 page book
Apple II Super Serial Card User’s Manual (two of them)
Apple II AppleMouse II User’s Manual
Apple Works Quick Reference Card
Apple II DOS User’s Manual
Apple II e ProDos Supplement to the Apple II e Owner’s Manual
Apple II ProDos User’s Manual
Image Writer Owner’s Manual
Image Writer User’s Manual. Part I: Reference
Image Writer User’s Manual. Part II: Guide to Apple II
Apple IIe Design Guidelines
Apple II 80 Column Text Card Manual
Apple II Extended 80 Column Text Card Supplement (two of them)
Apple II AppleSoft BASIC Programmer’s Reference Manual Vol I
Apple II AppleSoft BASIC Programmer’s Reference Manual Vol II
Apple II DOS Programmer’s Manual
Apple II AppleWorks Reference manual
Apple II AppleWorks Tutorial
Apple II e Owner’s Manual
Apple II e Owner’s Manual (different from the first one, two of these)
Apple DUODISK Owner’s Manual
Apple Pascal Operating System Reference Manual
Apple Pascal Language Reference manual
Apple Diskware Apple Pascal (three disk set)
Apple II Apple Soft Tutorial for the II e Only
Apple II Super Serial Card Installation and Operating Manual
MicroSoft Multi-Tool Budget for the Apple II & II e. (With manual and disk
in the original plastic box. It doesn’t look like it was ever opened.)
And I'll throw in: Texas Instruments Computer Program Writing Workbook
Are transcripts from VCF1 (and VCF2 for that matter) speakers going to
be available for sale? Please let me know cost and where to remit
payment if so.
Thanks,
Marty
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Right, but consider the other stuff. You need postscript, preferrably
a program for previewing the dvi file before printing, etc.
I think my pentium is faster ;) But that wasn't my original question.
Does anyone on this list actually use a REALLY old unusual machine
like IMSAI, CoCo, C64, Apple ][, etc. as their major word processing
system (unusual compared to Tony's AT)?
>Not so. Runs fairly well on similar machines. DRI evern did a version
>of tex for CP/M. Have the manual and software.
>
>Personally I used runoff a lot, it was quite fast.
>
>Allison
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>> I haven't looked at that NG for awhile. The 400 series towers were
>> under the distinct diadvantage that there was no (official) support
>> for TCP/IP.
I was lucky enough to get an ethernet board with my '700 - I've run up
XDM on the 700 before and then connected to it from an old '486 PC
running Linux just for the hell of it. :)
>
> > [ OS tapes ]
>> You know, I had the address of a vendor that could get you those;
>> unfortunately, though, they wanted an arm and a leg for it >:-P.
well you could get them through NCR when I last looked (about three
years ago now), but they wanted something like 800 dollars US for them,
which seemed a little on the expensive side for a ten year old machine
that wasn't ever going to be used for anything profitable!! :)
>> I got the tapes for my machine, but NCR states vehemently that they
>> *cannot* be copied. I don't believe this, of course (how did they
>> write the tape in the 1st place?), but I dont' know how you would
>> copy them.
I'd agree with you there - surely a raw copy of the tape would work.
Maybe there was code in the OS to prevent you from reading raw from an
OS tape or something, but I'd assume that it could just be copied on
another Unix machine.
>
>> The tower actually *boots* from the tape during install! Is that
>> crazy or what?
>from what I've seen a lot of Unix machines will do this for diagnostic /
install purposes. It's one of those things that reminds me how much I
hate modern PCs...
Think the best I can do with my 700 is hook the disks up under Linux or
something (they're SCSI on the 700, not MFM) and do a raw dump on the
disk. In theory I suppose I could then find an identical drive from
somewhere and restore the system...
(Has anyone ever tried this!?)
cheers
Jules
>
>
>Jeff
>
>> mind you, last time I tried to power up the machine it was completely
>> dead. I only had a few minutes so checked obvious fuses etc, but without
>> any luck. Hopefully something simple - I don't fancy trying to trace a
>> fault on one of those system boards :*)
>> >
>>
>> cheers
>>
>> Jules
>>
>
Cool!!! (And to think that I nearly paid $50 for one of those Sharps...)
BTW, find any A2 software?
Tim D. Hotze
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From: Jeff Kaneko <Jeff.Kaneko(a)ifrsys.com>
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
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Date: Tuesday, June 09, 1998 1:16 AM
Subject: 680x0's, Towers, & Serendipity was:Stupid lusers...
You know, serendipidy is a funny thing. I was at a flea market on
Sunday looking for some Apple ][ software, when this guy comes
walking into the booth bearing an ATT 7300 UnixPC (and a C-64).
He asks the proprietor what he'll give for this 'stuff'. The prop.
looks at the 'stuff', offers him $15 for the Commodore, and when
asked about the 7300 says: "Nope, cant offer you anything for
it. Can't use it. Too dumb." Hm.
So I offers the guy $5. "I had no idea 7300's were so *heavy*", I
thought as I later hefted it into the trunk of my car.
Anyways, I also have a 400 series Tower (as mentioned in the exerpt
below), and lots of spare boards (including the meter-long
systemboard).
I could have purchased a 68020 conversion kit for my tower from
WierdStuff in San Jose (this was back in the days when they carried
actually interesting material), but I didn't have the bucks.
Jeff
> >> The MC68010 is the heart of my favorite computer ever, the AT&T Unix PC
> >> (built by Convergent Technologies). I've got three, two work fine, one
> >> is for parts. _Still_ the prettiest machines in my collection.
>
> Do you mean the NCR Tower series? Or was this some other offering by
> AT&T? I seem to remember that the old Tower 400's had 68010's - I've
> still got a few boards somewhere for one (system board was about 1 metre
> long and half a metre high!). I've got a complete Tower 700 with a 68030
> as main CPU, and performance still rates really highly even these
> days...)
>
>
> Jules
>
>
Ahhh... hehe... neglected to mention I am in the twin cities
(minneapolis/st paul.) Don't know if they have video toasters but if
they do I'm going to get all of them.
PS. I date more or less around the Apple II... first computer I ever
had was a C64. I guess I've missed all the fun.
-Eric
I got a 68010 chip today...
On a visit to my pile at SSI, I saw a sadly disfigured rack out back. Went
to have a look at it. It was a PBX, based off a PDP-8 and some custom boards.
The top part of the rack, the 8, and most of those custom boards were completely
destroyed. Seems the cleaning morons, when told to move the rack elsewhere,
decided to pitch it in the trash compactor. Rack proved stronger than
trash compactor, and they gave up, picked it out of the compactor, and left.
The 8 is now a mini-mini computer. It's too damaged to deal with. I pried
the lid off and looked inside, the backplane was demolished, and the cards were
mashed to 1/2 height. I couldn't even remove them from the case.
Good thing is, the custom boards were the intersting parts. I got a 68010
chip and some miscellaneous socketed chips. There was a few Texas Instruments
boards, those were trash. Split in half. I picked at it for awhile, stole the
ROMs and some ribbon cables, and left it.
Anyway, What's a 68010 do? Anyone have pinouts/assembler refrences/etc?
Can I make it do something interesting?
-------
forgive my lack of knowledge on these, have only heard of them from my
brother who goes to an art school. they are ditching a roomful of amigas
w/ external hdd's at the end of the year, which have some pretty
extensive video editing hardware as well? i will try to find out more,
including what they actually ARE, but if anyone is interested please let
me know. i will see what i can do!
-Eric
What was the consensus we came up with regarding Xenix running on a Lisa?
Whatever it was, I saw a Lisa 2 today running Xenix (well, I didn't
actually see it run, but the owner said he had Xenix running on it).
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>I think that's the same book I've got a copy of around here. Interesting
>reading, but I've basically never seen any of that stuff anywhere. Though
>I found it really interesting, has anyone ever seen a Mac Plus or simular
>system recased into a PC case? It would be a fun project, but I've got to
>many other projects :^)
>
>The closest I've got to a Mac clone (I'm writting this on a PowerMac
>8500/180) is a Amiga 3000 with emulation software. The Amiga is actually
>about as fast as the real thing.
What edition do you have? My 2nd edition book says a listing of clones
is given in edition 1, as oppose to just saying they exist. I'd love to
get a list of old Mac clones.
>Just to ask... do you have the ISBN for that? I'm interested... ;-)
The book is: _Build Your Own Macintosh and Save a Bundle_ by Bob Brant,
Windcrest/McGraw-Hill. ISBN# 0-8306-3974-8. List price $19.95. It's a
great book.
Tom Owad
well I rescued 3 J500 computers and a 20meg removable drive unit.
I understand why people collect stamps now.....they take a damn sight less
room.
Can any one tell me a bit about the units (I did get the manuals...but they
are now in storage)
Opening one case quickly did not reveal a processor...were they a bit slice
job ?
Any how I will investigate more later.
BTW the drive unit measures about 3"x2"x2" and weighs a hell of a
lot...hence the ugh and another step down the road to a massive hernia. Had
to pass on the diablo printers for this lot at this stage (shame on
me!...but storage is at a premium)
so now my collection consists of
3 TRS80 model 1
2 TRS80 model 3
2 TRS80 model 4P
3 Systems 80 (same as the genie)
2 Sinclair QL
1 Amiga 600HD
1 Amiga 1200
1 Altos system (drives,tape units,processor,etc,etc,etc)
1 Nascom (with german DOS, hard sectored drive)
1 Kaypro 4
1 Kaypro 10
1 TI 99/4
12 Polycorp Poly computers (designed and made in New Zealand)
1 Polycorp server unit (z80 and 6809 with 2 8" drives and serial network)
3 Jacqaurd J500
1 Apple 2e
1 Cromenco
1 Amstrad 8256
1 Amstrad 6128
1 MSX
and various Misc machines I can't remember at the moment.
Oh I have a hell of a lot of manuals and books on the various beasts as
well, however I have NO parking left in my shed which required a lot a
cleaning to fit the J500s in. I also have a collection of large numbers of
floppy drives, monitors,accessories (like atari IR joystick controllers,
cromenco joystick,etc).
Happy collecting
k.j.whitehead(a)massey.ac.nz
Keith Whitehead
Electronics Technician
Electronics Services
Institute of Fundamental Sciences
Massey University
Palmerston North
New Zealand
5301
Fellow's looking to get rid of some Q-bus cards. Despite his listed
prices (I'd wager he'll let them go for a heck of a lot less), it looks
like he's just going to trash the stuff if they're not bought.
If interested, contact him directly.
Attachment follows.
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Subject: Q-bus Cards FS
Date: 7 Jun 1998 19:24:01 -0400
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Hello, all...
Apologies in advance if any of the following is inappropriate in either
content or presentation; if it is, feel free to TELL me, but please use
e-mail
and please be gentle!
After cannibalizing a disused MicroVAX III, I'm left with several "ex-
cess" Q-bus cards (see list below) and thought I'd see if anyone here
would
like to buy any of 'em. If not, out to the curb they go, a week from this
Wednesday or maybe sooner.
As a VERY GENERAL guideline of what these cards "are worth," my list
shows prices I found on a "DEC reseller" Website, which prices I assume to
be relatively "current." However, because these cards are used, and
because
I don't really know their condition (operating/not), A) I don't expect to
receive these prices and will entertain "any reasonable offer," and B) if
you buy an item, send me your money (plus shipping, unless you can pick it
up in person in the Rochester, NY area), then within 30 days of my
shipping
the item you determine that it DOESN'T WORK, simply return it to me for a
full refund of your purchase price (shipping is NON-refundable).
Having said that, here's the list:
Card-Edge Model "DEC reseller
website"
ID Number Description Price
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M3106 DZQ11 4-line, double-buffered, async EIA $219
(serial port) mux, w/modem control
M7546 TQK50 TMSCP controller for TK50 tape unit $258
M7651 DRV11-WA 18/22-bit DMA general-purpose interface $507
N/A QT13 or QT14 (Emulex) tape-drive controller (this N/A
unit was used with CDC 9-track drive)
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(FWIW, I also have the above-mentioned 9-track drive, but it's far too
bulky for me to even TRY to SHIP unless YOU REALLY MAKE IT WORTH MY WHILE.
If I don't get a convincing offer, or an in-person pickup scheduled, by
8AM this coming Wednesday (6/10), this drive ALSO goes out to the curb!)
Again, apologies if this is off base in any way. Hope to hear from
interested parties soon!
Chris Chiesa
cfchiesa(a)servtech.com
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>I think that's the same book I've got a copy of around here. Interesting
>reading, but I've basically never seen any of that stuff anywhere. Though
>I found it really interesting, has anyone ever seen a Mac Plus or simular
>system recased into a PC case? It would be a fun project, but I've got to
>many other projects :^)
>
>The closest I've got to a Mac clone (I'm writting this on a PowerMac
>8500/180) is a Amiga 3000 with emulation software. The Amiga is actually
>about as fast as the real thing.
What edition do you have? My 2nd edition book says a listing of clones
is given in edition 1, as oppose to just saying they exist. I'd love to
get a list of old Mac clones.
Thanks,
Tom
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<> Not so. Runs fairly well on similar machines. DRI evern did a versio
<> of tex for CP/M. Have the manual and software.
<
<Are you sure the program is the same? I had heard that the name was the
<but the software was actually completely different.
It should be different as Knuth's was written in C and tex is asm or plm
code. No credit given and. It's a simpler version circa 1978 and the
putput formats are oriented toward character printers.
Allison
<I'm halfway through reading 'TeX : The program', and I'm supprised it'll
<run on a CP/M machine. It's possible, I suppose. On this machine the
<binary for virtex (The normal version) is about 180K, and then it needs a
<bit of data space for various tables on top of that.
I presume this machine is a PC where code bloat is the order of the day.
Early teX (not LateX) was fairly compact compared to recent versions.
They were far more limited with what they could do with the printers.
Allison
I've got a pair of printwheels for the Xerox MemoryWriter 60 series
available. I'm also given to understand that these will fit Diablo 630
series machines as well.
I've got Courier 10 and Courier 12. First person to send me a
self-addressed stamped mailer gets them! E-mail me for my address.
Thanks in advance.
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