In the MicroPDP-11/73 that I got in the great haul there's an Emulex quad
board which I want to identify.
An identifying number on it is C3987-C. Two 50-pin headers are on the edge
pointing to the back. No cables attached. Stuff obviously has been swiped
>from this system.
> BBC Microcomputer Model B-plus
B-plus ? Never heard of it or is this jus another
motherboard revision ?
> Torch Z80 Card x 2
?? same here.
Gruss
H.
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On Jul 15, 0:47, Christopher Denham wrote:
> I have a Torch its a big box 2 5 1/4 drives plugs into the Tube of
> the BBC and runs msdos about half the speed of a XT .........
That sounds like a Graduate. There were several Torch units; the original
was a Eurocard-sized Z80 processor that fitted inside the BBC and came with
dual double-sided 80-track drives in a case styled to fit under the Beeb.
Notorious for noisy head solenoids and a rather iffy SMPSU. Then came the
Graduate, based on an 8086 (?), followed by the Unicorn, which was a
repackaged Beeb with a Z000 (? or 68000?) running a Xenix derivative.
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Dept. of Computer Science
University of York
At 09:37 AM 7/15/98 -0500, you wrote:
E-Mail Me privately, at: jeff.pat(a)mindspring.com
Jeff
>OK, easy on that anti-MS stuff. Kai might be reading :) Anyway, Scandisk
>is useful for erasing lost files which is all I use it for. Does anyone
>have an old copy of Spinrite or know of a place where I could get it?
>How much does the latest one go for?
>
>>I truely hate the brain-damaged program
>>ScanDisk as nothing more than a Trojan Horse! Microsoft should have
>>known better than to put out something like that. I have *never* had a
>>problem with Spinrite although that probably includes only a few
>hundred
>>drives I have worked on.
>>
>
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At 10:01 AM 7/15/98 -0500, you wrote:
I'll bet I know-- My MAD-1 (nee TELEX 1186) had a card with such
a BNC connector.
It was used for connectivity with IBM mainframes (3720 Emulation?), and
pretty much useless for anything else.
Jeff
>Speaking of TELEX, they once had the tan-colored 286 boxes, pretty
>small, with only a 3.5" fdd and a hardcard. They had a BNC connector
>emanating from the motherboard. Does anyone know what that was for? If
>it's a network card, does anyone know about drivers?
>
>>I once had one of these nasty little beasties. In fact, it was
>>a rare version that was badged for TELEX/Memorex. It used an
>>80186 CPU-- It was fast, at least to me, anyway (although
>>I don't recall the clock speed).
>
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In a message dated 98-07-15 05:19:21 EDT, thomas pfaff put forth:
<< What always amazed me was this huge aluminum casting at the center
of the machine where you inserted the BASIC and game cartridges.
That casting must have added significant cost to manufacturing the >>
well, my atari 400 is the same way. ive never seen a computer with so much
metal in it like that. perhaps it was for emissions issues? the 400 had that
dreadful keypad too so i can imagine even the best typist could only type
about 1-2cps.
david
I've several junk C64's I have been saving, if you want parts from them.
manney(a)lrbcg.com
"Enough is abundance to the wise." -- Euripides
>Anyone know a good source of C64/C128 parts in the US (the chips
>mostly). I have a C128 and two C64s that are going to require
>replacement chips and I have no idea where to get them.
>
>Thanks
>Tony
>
>
>
> What is it with Apple and clear plastic cases anyways? I think I remember
> clear plastic Apple ]['s at dealers. Did Apple do this for all of their
> models?
I remember clear plastic Apple ][ lids. In fact I think I remember
seeing them for sale in Computerland in Rockville, MD way long ago,
but can't recall whether they were made by Apple or just made to fit.
Just the thing to show off your new computer inside its boring beige
case.
Apple is not alone in the clear-plastic business. I've seen clear
cases for some older HP calculators from the mid-to-late 1970s.
-Frank McConnell
This is totally off-topic but this is the kind of thing you all can
appreciate, and it may even help some of you.
For the last several months I have constantly been spammed by what can be
described as Son-of-Spamford. There's some spam e-mail software marketing
company in Los Angeles that sends out millions of these messages I guess.
They use web crawlers that steal e-mail addresses from web pages. They
then send out this spam letter with forged headers and false return
addresses. Very annoying. However, they do include a phone number and
address at the end of the spam. Interesting. I've included the message
at the end of this message so you can see if you've been spammed by these
assholes as well.
I was so incensed at one point that I was almost going to buy a plane
ticket, fly down to L.A. with a box full of this spam e-mail printed out,
kick the door open to the office that these guys are in, find the
president of this "company", beat the shit out of him (or pimp-slap her),
then start shoving the printouts down this person's throat (yes, this is
rather violent :)
But I soon figured out that the address was merely a private mailbox, and
the phone number rings into a voicemail box. Hmmm. Well, I have the
resources to find out where this number rings in to, possibly track down
the service provider, but then what? Then I realized, "Hey, I have a PBX,
a T-1 and a voicemail system with 16 ports...its time to have some fun."
Thus sprang forth the Spaminator! The Spaminator is something I threw
together in about 10 minutes. What the Spaminator does is call the
offendor's number, wait for the voicemail to answer, dial a digit to cut
thru the outgoing message, then it starts singing simple tunes by playing
"spam" in different notes. I recorded a "spam" scale with my own voice.
Basically I sang "spam" starting from A and going to G.
I created 10 different song files, with simple tunes such as "Mary Had a
Little Spam", "Twinkle Twinkle Little Spam", "Happy Spamday", "We Shall
Overcome (the spam)", "Jingle Spam", "Popeye the Sailor Spam", and a few
others. The Spaminator randomly selects three spam tunes to play for each
call. It plays the tunes, then hangs up and calls right back up again.
The Spaminator is currently running, filling up the spammers voicemail box
with spam tunes. Hopefully, it will fill up the voicemail box and they
won't be able to receive any other messages. Also, it will bring them
much anguish as they constantly try to delete these messages that don't
stop coming.
The last I checked the Spaminator had played over 100 spam tunes into
their voicemail box. I am ecstatic. The Spaminator will continue to run
over night. Tomorrow morning I will check its progress (it keeps a log of
all tunes it plays so I know how many it did).
If anyone is interested in utilizing the Spaminator for spaminating other
egregious spammers, let me know. I can easily program it to
simultaneously call out to other phone numbers and sing a symphony of spam
for them as well.
I hope that my simple solution brings some manner of grief to these
idiots, whoever they are. Ideally it will give them more anguish than
their constant barrage of spam has brought me. I will not relent. My
next step is to try and track down the actual owners of this "business",
try to find out their other phone numbers (preferrably home numbers) and
unleash the Spaminator on those numbers as well.
Thanks for letting me vent.
Sam Alternate e-mail: dastar(a)siconic.com
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On Jul 15, 15:01, Christian Fandt wrote:
> This is "tomorrow". More details from that silvery sticker:
>
> "TOP ASSY TC0210201-FSH"
> "S/N 93395"
> "Sub ASSY C3987 C"
>
> Hmmm, that Top Assy number has TC02 in it Tim. Also, when looking at the
> board from the component side up, edge fingers downward, there is a male
> 26-pin header at top left and a male 20-pin header at top right. In top
> center is a 4-position DIP switch (SW1) and a single LED (CR1). Just to
> left of center and downward there are SW2 and SW3 which are both
> 10-position DIP switches. "C3987" is on a small bar coded sticker under
the
> left-hand 50-pin header.
>
> With that TC02 in the Top Assy number would that mean this is indeed a
TC02
> tape I/F as you figured?
It's exactly the TC02 that I have (and have the manual for). The two male
headers you mentioned are for diagnostics connections the factory used. It
can handle up to 4 tape drives (that's what 4 of 10-way DIP switch are
for).
I can dig out the manual for you next week -- sorry, this week is too
hectic to do it right now. You might want to send me some private email to
remind me, of course :-)
> If so what tape drive model(s) should I be looking for?
Any Pertec-interface drive. Kennedy drives were popular.
--
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Dept. of Computer Science
University of York
Speaking of, does *67 cost? I've been up to the same pranks as Sam, w/ a
local "mass marketer." I vaguely recalled it being a feature that cost
nothing, but I never was sure. Sorry to keep this thread going, as humourous
as it is :)
-Eric
>Don't forget to dial *67 or whatever the sequence is in your area to
>disable the caller ID from being passed on to the recipient. If not,
>they may have proof of your harrassing phone calls (and I'm sure such
>slime would resort to it...)
>
> Megan Gentry
Here in Nevada a new anti-spam law just went into efect on July 1.
Unsolicited commercial email, if sent after you request it to stop, is
now a $5 (five dollars, that was not a typo) fine. I'm sure that will
keep those spammers out of my mailbox.
Jack Peacock
-----Original Message-----
From: Max Eskin [mailto:maxeskin@hotmail.com]
Lawsuits are more effective because if he continues to do it, he'll lose
all the money he made, maybe even go to jail.
Okay, I'm gonna come right out and ask it...
Anyone know a good source of C64/C128 parts in the US (the chips
mostly). I have a C128 and two C64s that are going to require
replacement chips and I have no idea where to get them.
Thanks
Tony
>Speaking of books,
>has anyone seen the book "We Built our own Computers" by A.B. Holt,
>Cambridge Univ. Press, published about 1966.
I remember one from years ago which was how to build (and program)
a simple computer using paperclips and lights... (and a program
'drum' made out of a coffee can). I think I still have it... is this
what you're thinking of?
Megan Gentry
Former RT-11 Developer
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I'm not sure what that means, but I assume that the servo surface
contains a sort of coordinate system that the servo head reads and thus
guides the other heads. If that assumption is correct, why isn't it
possible to realign the thing with another servo platter?
>Of course if it's a drive with a separate servo surface and the servo
>head is the one that's crashed then you lose everything.
>
>-tony
>
>
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Well, I have DOS 1.1 (May, 1982) and Windows 1.03. In fact, I'm in the
process of de-compiling DOS 1.1, now. BootSector: done. IBMBIO: 75% done.
IBMDOS: not started yet.
I'm still looking for DOS 1.0. In fact, I have copies of many true-IBM
dos-es (not OEM versions).
Rich Cini/WUGNET <nospam_rcini(a)msn.com>
- ClubWin! Charter Member
- MCP Windows 95/Windows Networking
- Preserver of "classic" computers
<<<< ========== reply separator ========== >>>>>
< A more "classic"-related question related to some faded brain
< cell connections in my head: Wasn't there once a CP/M version of
< the Norton utilities, long before the IBM PC was even a glimmer
< in its parent's eyes?
There were several for CP/M, apple][ and trs80. Most were bad sector
scanners and disk editors. Very useful though as TRS80 and most cp/m
crates with external drive would write garbage to any externally powered
disks if the system was powered off with media in the drive.
Alison
Let me tell you why one of my keyboards now has an 'enter' key with the
corner smashed off by a hammer: the damn Packard Bell with all
integrated serial ports, hard disk controller, etc. wouldn't let me set
my modem up on COM2 or COM4. Plus, this took very long to verify because
the hard disk controller makes the IDE act like a C= 1541.
>> I will say this, though: At this point in the evolution of computers,
if
>> you find users of your systems are wanting regularly to add on more
than
>> three (or so) cards or sidecar modules, you have drastically
misevaluated
>> your target market and deserve to start haemorrhaging market share.
IMO.
>
>No way!. Maybe for the average consumer PC (build the disk controllers,
>serial/parallel ports, etc into the motherboard), but in my case I'll
>want all sorts of strange special-purpose cards (user I/O, ADC, I2C,
>special disk controllers, etc, etc, etc).
>
>I've managed to fill the 14 slots in a PC/XT+expansion chassis and
still
>wanted more!.
BTW, is it possible to build one of those? How does it work?
>> Those don't count. (: Even the monitor and power supply hookups are
BERG
>> strips. Sick.
What is a BERG strip?
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> Here in Nevada a new anti-spam law just went into efect on July 1.
> Unsolicited commercial email, if sent after you request it to stop, is
> now a $5 (five dollars, that was not a typo) fine. I'm sure that will
> keep those spammers out of my mailbox.
USD five ?
HoHoHo. Stoping after request isnt exactly whats needed - The SPAM
is already done. And getting a replay will make the address more
valuable: now it is validates - the spammer now could sell the
address to s.o. else for a single usage without any fear of beeing
prosecuted.
And you could still spamm the other people.
And even if - Send out 5000 SPAMs and get 10 complains and pay
USD 50 - thats USD 0.01 per 'customer contact' still _very_
cheap. I don't know if you ever looked into marketing, but
companies are paying up to USD 20.00 for a singe use of ONE
address.
I don't think ths law will have any impact - very spaming friendly.
Just done to get votes but avoide any change.
Gruss
H.
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HRK
>Thus sprang forth the Spaminator! The Spaminator is something I threw
>together in about 10 minutes. What the Spaminator does is call the
>offendor's number, wait for the voicemail to answer, dial a digit to cut
>thru the outgoing message, then it starts singing simple tunes by playing
>"spam" in different notes. I recorded a "spam" scale with my own voice.
>Basically I sang "spam" starting from A and going to G.
Don't forget to dial *67 or whatever the sequence is in your area to
disable the caller ID from being passed on to the recipient. If not,
they may have proof of your harrassing phone calls (and I'm sure such
slime would resort to it...)
Megan Gentry
Former RT-11 Developer
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If they still have it, the is an old PDP in the Utrecht office
of Digital. As far as I can remember (have seen it at least 10 years
ago) it's blue, has 3 panels and the centerpanel has a round tube
(a scope tube?). There were also a lot of switches on the panels.
I believe that the University in Utrecht has a museum of some sort
with various computers which they used over the years.
You might like to go to the Waterloo square in Amsterdam, every
Monday till Friday there is a flea market, and certainly there will
be some vintage stuff for sale.
Ed
First of all, I think that the latest Norton Utilities are soooo
bloated, they possibly won't even run on a damaged computer. High-res
pictures of your computer components are the latest thing you need when
you can't find a vital data file. For example, what good is it to have a
data recovery program you can't run if you just formatted your hard
drive?
That said, I think NU is a good tool, but Spinrite is still better than
NDD.
>First of all MS didn't write scandisk... anyone that uses norton tools
>should recognize it. it a stripped vendor version the norton tool.
>
>I have had excellent success with norton tools and still used copies
>I've had for over 8years.
>
>Allison
>
>
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>>Does anyone have a MAD Computer? It was just another boring peecee
> MAD = Magnetic Anomoly Detector
> Or in other words it's used in Anti-Submarine Warfare.
NoNo.
MAD = Militaerischer Abschirmdienst
(military counter inteligence)
> (Sorry couldn't resist, yes I realize in this case this isn't what you meant.)
dto :)
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This is a case of the law being intended (originally) for quite
different purposes. The story behind it is that the Nevada Legislature
has an email system where the public can send comments to the lawmakers
when the Legislature is in session (every other year for a few months).
It seems last year someone flamed one of the senior politicians, he got
pissed off, claimed it was racially motivated hate mail and tried to
outlaw flaming. Someone (the state attorney general) pointed out to him
his proposed law violated both free speech and right to petition for
redress in the Constitution, but he wouldn't back down and withdraw his
bill, so to keep it legal it was changed to an anti-spam law, and in
theory flame mail can be legally defined as spam too. No one expects
this law to ever be enforced.
Jack Peacock
-----Original Message-----
From: Hans Franke [mailto:franke@sbs.de]
USD five ?
I don't think ths law will have any impact - very spaming friendly.
Just done to get votes but avoide any change.