through my parents Record collection and found a record that is Moog mus
< It was something I was looking for, as it was so unusual that I remembe
< when my dad brought it home over 20 years ago.
<
< Anyway I was wondering if anyone knows anything about what kind of hardw
< was used for this?
Most of the early Moog work was done an ANALOG synths using multitrack
recording as most were not polytonic machines. Names of people who did
commercial work were Wendy Carlos, Iaso Tomita and Claude Denjean to name
some in my collection (Vinyl). The classic was Switched on Bach, Carlos.
Some had primitive sequencers but it would not be until the late 70s that
the computer->synth connection would start to really get out of the lab.
Allison
Since we're on the subject:
I have a small synth that was sold at Radio Shack (Tandy) that is labelled
"Mini Moog Music" Are there any relation to the Moog we're talking about or
did they only used the name for marketting?
Francois
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I'm really wondering if you guys are talking about the same thing I am
here but I have a perfect condition HP 700/44 terminal with rs232 and
current loop connections on back, with keyboard. I believe it's
monochrome amber and emulates different systems.
This is the last (and best) of the batch I had for sale. I'd like $15
plus shipping for this one.
Also still have the Visual 102 terminal with keyboard in breat
condition, $10 plus shipping - but a little heavier.
The DEC VT 220 is spoken for and the DEC 100 is due to get gutted next
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< I hope it wasn't too obscure! I had an exhibit in the 1980 one which wa
< called the "Personal Computer Arts Festival". The music was the first da
< visual art the second. For your interest, the music program was:
Electronic music was a popular application in the 76-82 timeframe before
midi caught hold. It was activly followed and robotics was another group.
Allison
My girlfriend and I have a PDP with a Charles River Data Systems RL02
clone. Anyone know a boot loader for this puppy?
(Funny thing is, Charles River Data Systems is less than two blocks from
my office, noone there knows anything about the drives :)
Tony
Well, I finally got it.
Took it apart and found that whomever owned it previously already
mounted a power switch in the back and runs all the AC voltage thru
there.
There is alot of corrosion on the ICs in the front panel, I'm going to
need to spend some time cleaning everything up there.
One switch and two switch covers are broken but those are easy to
replace.
Four of the 100 pin card edge connectors need to be replaced (two are
just way too loose and corroded, the others are broken).
Everything else seems to be fine (the power supply is okay and supplying
the proper voltages).
Now all I gotta do is order all these parts and enough S-100 cards to
complete a CP/M system and I'm all set.
Wish me luck!
Tony Dellett
At 08:58 AM 7/27/98 -0400, Allison wrote:
>Electronic music:
>
>One item I reported I had was not from PCC-77 but instead an obscure
>event known as the Philadephia Computer Music Festival in 78. That was an
>effort of Creative computing. It featured music from:
>
I hope it wasn't too obscure! I had an exhibit in the 1980 one which was
called the "Personal Computer Arts Festival". The music was the first day,
visual art the second. For your interest, the music program was:
Hal Chamberlin, High quality music synthesis outside of real-time using
microcomputers.
Laurie Speigel, Computer Composition systems.
Rob Moore, The Apple orchestra.
Joe Wilson, Computer control of an analog synthesizer.
Steve Levine, A collection of computer music experiments for the hobbyist.
Bill Mauchly, A discussion of timbre in computer music synthesis.
Roger Meyers, A synopsis of computer music composition and techniques
>from MUSIC 5 to the Synclavier.
Rebecca Mercuri, Digital sound research at RCA.
Kevin Doren, The Crumar gwneral development system; a large scale
digital synthesizer.
Jon Bondy, The Casheab 32 voice synthesizer for the S-100 bus.
Stuart Newfeld, A disk based music editor and four voice synthesizer for the
S-100 bus.
Ellen Lapham, Charles Kellner, The Alpha Syntauri computer music keyboard.
Cliff Ashcraft, Frank Covitz, Enhanced software for music synthesis using the
6502.
AB Computers, The visible music monitor.
The evening concert was by:
Laurie Spiegal, Hal Chamberlin, Rob Moore, and Frank Covitz & Cliff Ashcraft.
Hal C. played (in real time, of course) Bach's T. and Fugue in D minor from
a 12.5Mb file, a lot of floppy swapping.
-Dave
Check this out. If you want to make a quick $90 on any VS3100's you've
got, this fellow's looking. I only have one left, so I'm hanging onto it
for now.
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>>I'm looking for a VAXstation 3100 with ULTRIX installed. I don't need a
>>kb, mouse or monitor, since I already have a vt220 that I can use, but I
>>will need one of the special cables that you need to hook up the terminal
>>up to the computer.
>>
>>I don't have that much money (I've allocated about $140 for this), so I'm
>>looking for something that I can buy for around $90 or so.
>>
>> Thanks
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I recently got one of those combo drives -- the one with both a
5.25" and a 3.5" floppy built in. It is the Teac FD505... I
currently have a Teac FD-55GFV (RX33) on my RQDX3 at home... is
anyone familiar with the two drives? Can I replace eht RX33 with
the combo drive and get it to work? I've already tried simply
using it as distributed... and the controller (sorry, its the
RQZX1 controller, not RQDX3) sees the two drives. But when I
try to access either, they get directory read errors on disks I
know should work...
Any help appreciated...
Megan Gentry
Former RT-11 Developer
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>>>ard(a)p85ug1.demon.co.uk
>If it's any help, the AY-3-8912 is the AY-3-8910 with only 1 8 bit I/O
>port rather than 2 (and the AY-3-8913 has no I/O ports). The sound
>registers are identical.
>
>I'm sure I've got pinouts of all 3 devices, and descriptions of the
>registers if you need them.
I'm interested in whatever information you can provide... I've had this
for awhile, but have had no documentation or even code to drive it, so
I couldn't figure it out.
I worked with the MicroPower/Pascal people way back when they worked
on the star wars cantina demo, but I never had a doc set for the
board...
Any help MUCH appreciated...
Megan Gentry
Former RT-11 Developer
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k
Oopsie... Sorry... PDP-11/23
(i even called her at work cause I couldn't remember wether it was the
23 or the 34)
Tony :)
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Christian Fandt [mailto:cfandt@servtech.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 1998 1:58 PM
> To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
> Subject: Re: PDP Boot Loader
>
>
> At 12:35 28-07-98 -0400, you wrote:
> >My girlfriend and I have a PDP with a Charles River Data Systems RL02
> >clone. Anyone know a boot loader for this puppy?
> >
> >(Funny thing is, Charles River Data Systems is less than two
> blocks from
> >my office, noone there knows anything about the drives :)
>
> Tony, tell us what PDP model it is! (PDP-11/23 or -11/44 or
> PDP-8/E, or
> etc. etc.)
>
> Regards, Chris
> -- --
> Christian Fandt, Electronic/Electrical Historian
> Jamestown, NY USA
> Member of Antique Wireless Association
> URL: http://www.ggw.org/freenet/a/awa/
>
Someone mentioned staroffice. Do they still offer 3.x for download? I
couldn't find it anywhere, though Caldera is selling 4.0 for $20. Where
is the website? I thought it was www.stardivision.com.
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Was there a puck with this? I have a Summasketch something-or-other, and
I want to know how the puck works, pinout, etc.
>(1) SummaSketch II Tablet
> $40
>
>rob
>
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> Somewhat more back on topic , Megan let slip that you designed an
>interface for the "Mark 11". Would it a major undertaking to build an A-D
>converter to take the VCO off an analogue synth and convert it to MIDI
>or to sample or record it ? And my ST is over 10 years old !! : ^ ))
Actually, the 'MK10' stood for 'Music Kludge - 10' and apparently
consisted of something attached to the accumulator lights (which
the software flashed on and off at the appropriate fequencies).
We called our board the MK11-B (Music Kludge - 11, revision B). The
Rev A was my initial circuit which was one SGC driven by a DR11C on
the pdp-11/10 I have at home.
Megan Gentry
Former RT-11 Developer
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| Unix Support Engineering Group | (home): mbg world.std.com |
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I been in yer shoes.
The color NeXT Station used either a proprietary keyboard/mouse
interface or ADB versions. I'm not sure how to figger out which is which
but the guys at http://www.deepspacetech.com/ would, plus, they carry
the other stuff you're gonna need to get the sucker up and running (like
the OS).
Tony
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Anthony Eros [mailto:Anthony.Eros@digital.com]
> Sent: Sunday, July 26, 1998 7:21 PM
> To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
> Subject: NeXtStation TurboColor
>
>
> I picked up a NeXtStation TurboColor box today at a hamfest.
> A kid had
> just bought 3 monitors, 4 boxes and a small stack of manuals and sold
> me the extra system box for $25. No memory or hard disk and
> (of course)
> no monitor, cable, keyboard, mouse or software.
>
> Does anyone have experience with these systems? Any tips on getting
> the pieces needed to get it running?
>
> -- Tony
>
They start most items at 1000. I know where you can get an imagewriter
printer in a clear plastic case with serial #1000.
Tony
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tom Owad [mailto:tomowad@earthlink.net]
> Sent: Saturday, July 25, 1998 6:22 PM
> To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
> Subject: Apple Prototype Keyboard
>
>
> I just acquired two Apple prototype keyboards. The
> keyboard is very
> small with no frame and only 58 keys. They hvae stereo-type
> connectors
> on them, as oppose to ADB, and I have an adapter box to hook
> them up to a
> Mac Plus (and they do work, btw).
> According to my "AppleDesign" book, they are "Cassie" keyboards,
> co-designed by Mannock and Esslinger for the SnowWhite Project. Does
> anyone have any further information on these keyboards? And how do
> things like this get outside of Apple? I'm under the
> impression Apple
> doesn't exactly give this kind of stuff away.
>
> On the back the keyboards read:
>
> [logo]apple
> apq
> Development Engineering
> PROTOTYPE
> S/n# Model#
> 1012
> (the other says "1032")
>
> Does Apple start numbering at '1' or '1000'?
>
> The keyboard, btw, is obviously a prototype. The whole thing
> seems quite
> flimsy and the keys are all angled slightly differently.
>
> Tom
>
> --
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>
< I, too, have the Bermuda Triangle LP, but if I remember correctly I have
< copies -- one pressed in pink vinyl and one pressed in blue.
Mine was plan vinyl (black) a later copy.
< As an aside, My personal favorite of the early synth years is Larry Fast
< Synergy project.
I have those too. Electronic realizations for a rock Orchestra.
Allison
< Originally, the Altair (S-100) bus did not define a need for termination
< any kind. It was not until things on the bus started to speed up (usin
< DMA and such) that anyone apparently thought about it.
The altair bus was never specified, nor engineered. IF it were it would
not have been built that way.
It was more like people tried to makes them work and found the crashed
often and without apparent cause. Other people found if the move the
boards from one slow to another would make a program crash. Using an
extender card crashed the system. Most all found as they added memory the
system would get more or less stable. I was one of the early ones looking
at the data lines mostly if horror with my scope. Of the handfull of
computer people in the LI, NY area at the time I was one of the few with a
scope.
< Can't hurt. I will say however, I do seem to recall seeing a board or t
< that would not run on a terminated bus, but that has been so long that
< don't evem recall what it was.
There were a few really badly designed boards that couldn't drive the bus
at all well and tended to also aggravate the noise situation.
Allison
Just purchased three Zenith Data Systems laptops at a Hamfest - my
first IBM-compatible computers, believe it or not (always focused on the
Apples & under-the-TV 8-bit systems).
Needless to say, I don't know a thing about them. There are no power
adapters. I have a 12v 300 mA adapter. Will that work with them? I
hooked it up to all three systems - 2 of them didn't do a thing. The
third "spins" up and I can hear a very faint wining noise from inside.
The monitor, however, shows nothing (could this be due to too little
amperage?). The computer gives a three-tone beep every 15 seconds or so
(estimate) and beeps whenever I press a key.
Anybody have any suggestions? Like I said, I don't anything about
these, so any advice would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Tom
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>>> [Linux World Domination]
>>> Y'know, once we get that user-friendly stuff happening, we're gonna
>>> kick windows's ass.
>>> User friendly + reliable + free = the next killer O/S.
>>> Windows will simply have no way to compete and still turn a profit.
>> One name: ApplixWare. Go find it and install it. That'll provide you
>> with all the user-friendliness you want.
> Yup. Redhat Applixware running under Caldera 1,2 with Redhad/Triteal
> CDE. Beats the crap of my NT system at work with Office '97 in both
> user-friendly and stable. IMAO of course.
Ever tried KDE - IMHO the best attempt to get a whole
desktop environment - and its public. (And try StarOffice
as office suite -> you'll never think again about MS,
especialy since SO is also availabe for Win3.1/95/NT
_and_ OS/2).
CCob:
Ever tried (DR-)DOS and GEM ? _TONS_ of good old and some new soft!
Gruss
H.
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HRK
Is it possible to take a "standard" svga type lcd display and wire it
to a typical SVGA video card? How does it differ inside a laptop that
has both an external SVGA adapter and the internal LCD connection? I'd
love to use some of these LCD displays I have in some systems. any info
would be appreciated.
-Eric
< I still have one prototyped at home... it allowed up to 9 voices
< (three voices/chip, 3 chips) of sound, and 3 voices of percussion.
I happen to have the DEC internal card for the Q-bus Ey-0105E-ms-101
(AKA Gigilo), uses two GI-AY-3-8912 sound chips. I also have some of the
PDP-11 software to drive it.
I don't have a schematic for it or the specs for the sound chips however I
do have a few sources for the music play software (asm a upower pascal).
I also have the honor of meeting Carlos in an old wherehouse and sound
lab on Long Island back in 1973 when the company I was with was moving
in to the facility. There was some amazing old junk left behind like
old audio power amps with 807s and 813s... It was just down the block
>from SUNY farmingdale.
Allison