Hi all --
I have recently acquired a PDP-8/m system that was used to drive a radio
automation rig (very very similar to this: http://www.bowkera.com/kcbs1.htm
).
My understanding is that this system hooked to banks of what were
essentially 8-track tape drives, each of which held a short loop of tape
(containing a song, an ad, call info, etc.) and the 8/m was programmed with
a playlist of sorts so that even in the early 70s you didn't need to have a
real DJ on premises to run a radio station. (I had no idea this sort of
thing went back that far!)
This one was used at KRDU (Fresno's Christian Radio). At any rate, it's
neat hardware. All I have is the 8/m, a custom front panel (as seen in the
pictures on the site I linked above) and a bank of Omnibus backplanes
holding cards that would drive the tapes and mix audio.
I really have no use for the tape-control / audio mixing hardware since I
don't have the tapes and I'm not *really* planning on running an automated
radio station out of my basement (though it does sound fun). I'm not about
to scrap the stuff (it's at least useful for parts) but I thought I'd see
if anyone out there could actually make use of it for its intended purpose.
- Josh
At 09:24 AM 12/9/2015, Mike Boyle wrote:
>Do you have photos?
I don't need photos - I worked with carts from the time I entered radio (1969) until the last of my clients abandoned them several years ago. I have installed, maintained and repaired hundreds of cart machines in the course of my career.
If anyone is interested I can scan and post the 1976 edition of the NAB standard to tape cartridge systems.
Dale H. Cook, Radio Contract Engineer, Roanoke/Lynchburg, VA
http://plymouthcolony.net/starcityeng/index.html
> I've got 13,000 on RetroBattlestations and I doubt very many of them know about the cctalk mailing list.
Wow, that is impressive. However, I suppose much of the PeeCee crowd
really does not integrate well with cctalk, and that is fine.
--
Will
Yeah... the feeling of a real machine is different...
AS/400s aren't retrocomputing cult machines so, waiting a bit, it's not hard to grab one at a decent price...
YES!! DOES IT STILL HAVE THE DIABLO DISC HARD DRIVE TOO!>!>?????opps
caps.... ok yes one of the phx stations had one of these and it had
the 8 and the diablo hard drive
PRICE???? ed sharpe
In a message dated 12/8/2015 8:56:51 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
derschjo at gmail.com writes:
http://www.bowkera.com/kcbs1.htm
since we collect broadcast gear for radio and TV
we would like to buy this depending on where it is located.
are there any tapes too??? we are VERY INTERESTED!!
thanks ed sharpe archivist for smecc.
In a message dated 12/8/2015 9:54:10 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
thrashbarg at kaput.homeunix.org writes:
On 9/12/2015 2:26 PM, Josh Dersch wrote:
> My understanding is that this system hooked to banks of what were
> essentially 8-track tape drives, each of which held a short loop of tape
> (containing a song, an ad, call info, etc.) and the 8/m was programmed
with
> a playlist of sorts so that even in the early 70s you didn't need to
have a
> real DJ on premises to run a radio station. (I had no idea this sort of
> thing went back that far!)
>
Very interesting. The cartridges were probably NAB cartridges. See
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fidelipac>. I got a pile of these from
a guy who worked at the ABC (Australia), mostly studio-link failure
apology announcements and a few calibration tapes.
The content is usually very interesting on these old cartridges. It'd
be a shame if the radio station just threw them out!
Alexis.
mine are old enough to be bitchen!
Ed#
In a message dated 12/8/2015 3:33:34 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
silent700 at gmail.com writes:
On Tue, Dec 8, 2015 at 4:32 PM, Chuck Guzis <cclist at sydex.com> wrote:
> On 12/08/2015 02:23 PM, William Donzelli wrote:
>>
>> Yes, keep the kewl machines elsewhere. Our machines are groovy, far
>> out, or maybe even the Bomb.
>
>
>
> You forgot "rad" and "neat".
Certain Crays were "totally tubular."
Man...IUsed this program for YEARS. I'd be glad to register it as a "thank
you" note
Enviado do meu Tele-Movel
Em 08/12/2015 21:18, "Ali" <cctalk at fahimi.net> escreveu:
> C A I X A E C ? N O M I C A F E D E R A L - LOTERIAS
>
> Alexandre Souza,
>
> Conforme voc? pediu, seguem os resultados das Loterias da Caixa.
> Boa Sorte!
>
> Caixa Econ?mica Federal
>
>
> D U P L A S E N A
> --------------------
>
> CONCURSO : 1444
> DATA : 08/12/2015
>
> 1? SORTEIO:
> N?MEROS SORTEADOS: (por ordem de sorteio) 20 - 35 - 42 -
> 40 - 39 - 12
>
> (por ordem crescente) 12 - 20 - 35 -
> 39 - 40 - 42
>
> PREMIA??O:
> N? de ganhadores: 0
> Rateio do pr?mio: R$ 0,00
>
> VALOR ACUMULADO 1? SORTEIO: R$ 1.178.636,10
>
> ESTIMATIVA DO PR?MIO (DUPLASENA)*: R$ 1.500.000,00
> *PARA O PR?XIMO CONCURSO, A SER REALIZADO 11/12/2015
>
> 2? SORTEIO:
> N?MEROS SORTEADOS: (por ordem de sorteio) 14 - 37 - 09 -
> 34 - 49 - 16
>
> (por ordem crescente) 09 - 14 - 16 -
> 34 - 37 - 49
>
> PREMIA??O:
> N? de ganhadores da Sena: 0
> Rateio do pr?mio da Sena: R$ 0,00
> N? de ganhadores da Quina: 31
> Rateio do pr?mio da Quina: R$ 4.072,60
> N? de ganhadores da Quadra: 1282
> Rateio do pr?mio da Quadra: R$ 93,79
>
>
>
>
> Q U I N A
> --------------------
>
> Concurso : 3954
> Data : 08/12/2015
>
> N?MEROS SORTEADOS: (por ordem de sorteio) 49 - 04 - 16 -
> 13 - 74
>
> (por ordem crescente) 04 - 13 - 16 -
> 49 - 74
>
> VALOR ACUMULADO: R$ 7.611.144,60
> VALOR ACUMULADO PARA O SORTEIO ESPECIAL DE S?O JO?O: R$ 50.650.937,04
> ESTIMATIVA DO PR?MIO (QUINA)*: R$ 8.700.000,00
> *PARA O PR?XIMO CONCURSO, A SER REALIZADO 09/12/2015
>
>
>
> N? de Ganhadores (Quina) : 0
> Rateio do Pr?mio (Quina) : R$ 0,00
>
> N? de Ganhadores (Quadra) : 92
> Rateio do Pr?mio (Quadra) : R$ 7.801,94
>
> N? de Ganhadores (Terno) : 6955
> Rateio do Pr?mio (Terno) : R$ 147,43
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> T I M E M A N I A
> ----------------------
>
> ACUMULOU!
>
> Concurso : 813
> Data : 08/12/2015
>
>
>
> Resultado das dezenas sorteadas (ordem crescente)
> 02 - 24 - 36 - 52 - 54 - 74 - 79
>
> Resultado das dezenas sorteadas (ordem de sorteio)
> 24 - 79 - 54 - 52 - 36 - 74 - 02
>
>
> TIME DO CORA??O: FLUMINENSE/RJ
>
>
> PREMIA??O
> N?mero de Acertos (7)
> Qtde Ganhadores : 0
> Rateio (em R$): 0,00
> Valor Acumulado (em R$) : 558.738,90
>
> ESTIMATIVA DO PR?MIO (7 ACERTOS)*: R$ 800.000,00
> *PARA O PR?XIMO CONCURSO, A SER REALIZADO 10/12/2015
>
> N?mero de Acertos (6)
> Qtde Ganhadores : 1
> Rateio (em R$): 61.155,47
>
> N?mero de Acertos (5)
> Qtde Ganhadores : 114
> Rateio (em R$): 766,35
>
> N?mero de Acertos (4)
> Qtde Ganhadores : 2295
> Rateio (em R$): 6,00
>
> N?mero de Acertos (3)
> Qtde Ganhadores : 21218
> Rateio (em R$): 2,00
>
> Time do Cora??o
> Qtde Ganhadores : 14260
> Rateio (em R$): 5,00
>
> Valor acumulado para o pr?ximo concurso de final cinco (815): R$ 147.166,48
>
>
> ARRECADA??O TOTAL: R$ 1.226.806,00
>
>
> Confira os resultados das Loterias pelo seu celular, acesse o site da
> CAIXA www.caixa.gov.br direto pelo aparelho e selecione o link loterias. (
> http://www.caixa.gov.br)
>
>
>
> Conhe?a os investimentos CAIXA: variedade e seguran?a para investir, sem
> abrir m?o de boa rentabilidade. SAIBA MAIS. (
> http://www11.caixa.gov.br/portal/public/investidor)
>
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Se desejar corrigir seus dados ou se descadastrar deste servi?o acesse o
> link -
> http://www.caixa.gov.br/_redirect/push/r_logon_loteria.asp
>
I was wondering if anyone on the list may have contact info for Mr. Volpe
the author of ModemDoctor. I attempted to send in the registration fee for
his service based on the address on his website. The letter was returned
"not deliverable". The site does get occasional updates so he is still
around and apparently still accepting orders.
Thanks
-Ali
On 6 December 2015 at 13:24, Mark G. Thomas <Mark at misty.com> wrote:
> As much as I love old CPUs, I've lost my patience with hard disk drives.
> I've been using AztecMonster (search ebay) CF-SCSI adapters, with several-GB
> CF cards instead of spinning disks. The KA660 and several PDP-11/83s
> here run reliably from CF storage. I see now there are SCSI2SD cards for
> half the price of the AztecMonster CF adapters I've been using. These
> might be an alternative, if they play okay with whatever q-bus SCSI
> controller you find. Installing from SCSI CDROM and using flash
> storage is definitely the way to go if you can get the parts.
>
That's great news to hear that the AztecMonster works on QBUS PDP-11s.
I now know exactly what my future plans are...
But I have a "random" question for those here. I know some of the QBUS
(and UNIBUS) SCSI controllers can act both as an MSCP and TMSCP
controller. (CMD CQD-220A/TM for one example.) And I know that several
of the PDP-11 operating systems install from tape, and can install
>from TMSCP tape (hello RSTS/E). What I'd like to know is: Is there
anything out there that can emulate a SCSI tape device on a CF card/SD
card/USB stick/what-have-you?
Best regards,
Christian
--
Christian M. Gauger-Cosgrove
STCKON08DS0
Contact information available upon request.
bah! sacrilege!
In a message dated 12/8/2015 8:30:58 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
bqt at update.uu.se writes:
sell the feet separately from the H960, etc) is
>>> the way to get the most money,
> I seriously doubt the splitting of the H960 from its feet or not will
> influence the outcome of a job position.
I don't know, because I don't know enough about their exact financial state.
But it doesn't matter, for two reasons: First, given that it's for a good
cause, it shouldn't matter; it will help, that's all one needs to know.
Second, even if it weren't for a good cause, "the splitting of the H960 from
its feet" is - or should be - No Big Deal anyway. It's not like the parts are
going to be melted down, or anything; they will just be re-arranged.
So someone who has e.g. a three-bay system, with feet on the two end
cabinets, would probably be quite happy with a fourth bay without feet. And
at the same time, someone who has a one-bay system with no feet would
probably be ecstatic to finally find feet. Everyone's happy, all the parts
are in good homes; where, exactly, is the problem?
Noel
Decent... well...
Hard to tell...
If you use an external USB mini keyboard they're decent :)
There's the free version of Mocha TN5250, just for an example...
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mission-to-remake-computing/?tag=nl.e101&s_cid=e101&ttag=e101&ftag=TRE684d53
1
ed#
yea but I doubt a pair of H960 feet would be a make or break for
her... just 'sayin....
In a message dated 12/8/2015 12:37:21 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
wdonzelli at gmail.com writes:
> Mmm, of your business depends on the value of a vintage computer. You
should ask yourself if your business can survive anyway.
We know nothing of the business situation. small consulting firms are
notorious for having huge swings in cash flow. It may be that the
business in question really is dying, or they may have a monster sized
check "in the mail" from a client, and the owner just needs some cash
to get over the holiday.
A close relative of mine has a small consulting firm, and she goes
through periods of months with no money coming in, even with clients
owing her six figures in payments. Some clients (governments, mostly)
can take a year to pay!
--
Will
> bah! sacrilege!
So you've got someone working for you, been working for you for years, and
you think it's more important to not commit the sacrilege of splitting up an
H960 and its feet, rather than to have to tell them they're fired, that they
have to go home and tell their spouse and kids that their parent doesn't have
a job any more? Excuse me if I don't agree.
Noel
Bingo.
In a message dated 12/8/2015 12:29:13 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
hp-fix at xs4all.nl writes:
Mmm, of your business depends on the value of a vintage computer. You
should ask yourself if your business can survive anyway.
-Rik
-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van: "Noel Chiappa" <jnc at mercury.lcs.mit.edu>
Verzonden: ?8-?12-?2015 20:19
Aan: "cctalk at classiccmp.org" <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
CC: "jnc at mercury.lcs.mit.edu" <jnc at mercury.lcs.mit.edu>
Onderwerp: Re: Maximizing value selling a working 11/34
> bah! sacrilege!
So you've got someone working for you, been working for you for years, and
you think it's more important to not commit the sacrilege of splitting up
an
H960 and its feet, rather than to have to tell them they're fired, that
they
have to go home and tell their spouse and kids that their parent doesn't
have
a job any more? Excuse me if I don't agree.
Noel
I seriously doubt the splitting of the H960 from its feet or not will
influence the outcome of a job position.
In a message dated 12/8/2015 12:24:16 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
hp-fix at xs4all.nl writes:
Hmm,
-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van: "Noel Chiappa" <jnc at mercury.lcs.mit.edu>
Verzonden: ?8-?12-?2015 20:19
Aan: "cctalk at classiccmp.org" <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
CC: "jnc at mercury.lcs.mit.edu" <jnc at mercury.lcs.mit.edu>
Onderwerp: Re: Maximizing value selling a working 11/34
> bah! sacrilege!
So you've got someone working for you, been working for you for years, and
you think it's more important to not commit the sacrilege of splitting up
an
H960 and its feet, rather than to have to tell them they're fired, that
they
have to go home and tell their spouse and kids that their parent doesn't
have
a job any more? Excuse me if I don't agree.
Noel
> From: Johnny Billquist
> (Or maybe I'm just naive in thinking that people who request assistance
> to maximize their profits targeting the same crowd they ask for
> assistance from (for free) is abusive.)
_I_ am not selling the item in question; I merely happen to know the seller,
and am doing them a favour (since I happen to sympathize with people whose
jobs are about to disappear). I expect they will use eBay to actually sell the
item; I am fairly certain that it _will not_ be offered through this list.
So I think your statement above contains at least two mistaken assumptions.
Noel
>
> Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2015 16:47:51 +0100
> From: Pontus Pihlgren <pontus at Update.UU.SE>
> Subject: Re: Appraisal for Donation
>
> I'm not sure what you are asking. But a PDP-12 sold north of
> 15k dollars:
>
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/161199469414
>
> /P
>
Thanks! I remembered that one selling, but I couldn't remember where.
--
Michael Thompson
So I just saw this commit go by on the FreeBSD ports mailing list.
Since some people were talking about Pascal a month or two ago, I
thought it might be of interest to them.
I'm sure commits to various Linux systems will be done as well.
fwiw, I removed the 1460+ lines of diff :-)
mcl
----- Forwarded message from John Marino <marino at FreeBSD.org> -----
Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2015 23:29:37 +0000 (UTC)
From: John Marino <marino at FreeBSD.org>
To: ports-committers at freebsd.org, svn-ports-all at freebsd.org, svn-ports-head at freebsd.org
Subject: svn commit: r403082 - in head: . Mk archivers archivers/fpc-bzip2 archivers/fpc-paszlib archivers/fpc-unzip audio audio/fpc-a52 audio/fpc-a52/files audio/fpc-mad audio/fpc-mad/files audio/fpc-modpl...
Author: marino
Date: Sat Dec 5 23:29:36 2015
New Revision: 403082
URL: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/ports/403082
Log:
FPC ecosystem: Upgrade version 2.6.4 => 3.0.0
This is the first major release of FreePascal in nearly four years.
There are a ton of new features, way more to list here. see:
http://wiki.freepascal.org/FPC_New_Features_3.0
Several new unit ports were added, some were contracted. Most of
those were absorbed into the main FPC packages, but two units are
no longer supported: sndfile and matroshka.
All 99 remaining ports (including Lazarus ports) were build tested
on FreeBSD i386 and amd64 Release 10.2
----- End forwarded message -----
Hi there,
Recently, I've been reading up into AS/400s.. They seem like really neat machines, and look really sharp with those matching block terminals.
I remember retail stores using those, and I always wondered what kind of a system they were running on... I figured it was DOS!
I've been having trouble locating one, however.
Anybody have one lying around, or know of where to find one in the Toronto area?
It needn't be a high spec machine, just something to play with OS/400 and a terminal.
Thanks!
-brian
So I've been informed that a pair of PDP-11/04's are available, Chicago US
area. The price isn't set - someone else has offered the owner ~$400, which
seems a bit low to me (although I don't know what peripherals/memory are
included, if any). One is in a 5" box, and one in an 11"; both apparently
include the basic "Operator's Console" (i.e. halt and reset toggles). Contact
Patrick Lynn at 815-838-0134 if interested.
Noel
The PDP-12 donor to the RICM needs an appraisal for the charitable donation.
I already suggested Vintage Tech.
Any other suggestions?
--
Michael Thompson