<programming job was to upgrade an 11/780 from 2.4 to 3.0. It took most of
<weekend, not helped by the fact that you had to install different versions
<of the microcode at various points during the upgrade, and it took 30+
Yes, there were a lot of people that suggested the next upgrades should be
easier.
<minutes to discover that you'd got the wrong one in. The 8" floppy on an
<11/78x was not renowned for speed. ISTR that the interface was one bit wide
The LSI-11 to vax hardware was wider I think 16bits bt the microcode was
some 60-80 bits so it took a long tome to build a few words of uCode.
Allison
<I want to do assembly programming and other things on my MVaxII that
<are generally not covered in the Manager's manual etc. It just seems
<that every now and then someone has an orange wall that needs a home.
Or keep a look for the gray wall (later version of similar material).
If memory serves orange was V4.XX (maybe V3 too) and gray was V5.XX.
And yes they are s significant resource. About six months back I lucked
into a copy of the gray wall (30 volumes!). Would never part with it and
it's my first set even though Microvaxen were something I was involved with
since '85!
Allison
Lawrence LeMay <lemay(a)cs.umn.edu> wrote:
> Sun mice are Mouse Systems mice, of course. I have one Model M2 mouse,
> which is black, and thus is most likely a mouse for a Sun 2 computer.
> I have many Model 3 and 4 mice, which have the brass pins on the side of
> the connector. The one sun 3/50 keyboard I have is using a Model 3
> with pins, so i'm assuming these are all for use on type 3 keyboards?
> The strange thing is, I have several Model M3 mice that dont have those
> brass pins on the connector. So i'm wondering if these are also usable
> on older sun 2 computers, or if sun is just playing mind games with me..
Sun is playing mind games with you. You will know that you've reached
the bone-us level when you have in front of you a type 3 mouse with
the pins in its RJ-11 plug and a type 3 keyboard with a standard RJ-11
jack that won't accept the pins.
I have a type 2 mouse here. It's black with gray buttons, and has a
Sun sticker on top with the purple, on-its-corner Sun logo and black
"sun" text. On bottom there's a Mouse Systems label with the
following dot-matrix imprint:
MSC 900783-002/01
SN MSC BQ00226
MADE IN USA
Type 2: keyboard and mouse both have RJ-11 plugs
The 2/120 can have RJ-11 jacks for this combination; both devices get
plugged separately into the CPU cabinet (but I think the connectors go
to the bwtwo or other framebuffer).
Type 3: keyboard has RJ-11 jack for mouse and DA15 plug to system;
mouse daisy-chains through keyboard
The 2/50, 3/50, 3/60, and I guess most Sun 3s excepting the 3/80 use
this DA15 connector. The 2/50 came with an adaptor box that plugged
into the DA15 socket on the back of the CPU and brought out two RJ-11
jacks. The adaptor box works on Sun 3s too.
Type 4: keyboard has mini-DIN plug and socket(s) for mouse; mouse
daisy-chains through keyboard
There's also an adaptor box that plugs into the DA15 socket that
brings out a mini-DIN socket so you can use a Type 4 keyboard and
mouse on your Sun 3 -- I guess Sun ran out of Type 3 keyboards before
the service life ended or something. Or maybe people with Sun 3s just
wanted to use Type 4 keyboards? (Ewww, but then I don't like the Type
4 keyboard.)
Somewhere along the way (I think midstream Type 4, or maybe when the
Type 5 keyboard was introduced?) the mice changed to a high-resolution
flavor with a denser grid on the optical mouse pad. Predictably, old
and new mice and pads don't work with each other.
-Frank McConnell
A friend gave me his old IBM 286 which I'd like to revive for my
wife's use. When I power on, a red light indicates the machine is
looking at the 5.25 floppy drive, then I hear two beeps, and
nothing at all appears on the screen. I'm thinking that maybe the
BIOS somehow got trashed but I don't have a clue what to do about
it. I don't think there's anything wrong with the monitor. I
think the computer just doesn't seem to know it has a hard drive
and monitor connected. Any advice would be sincerely appreciated.
I tried removing and reseating all the cards because that's
sometimes solved problems when I had my own 286, but it didn't do
any good with this machine.
Thanks in advance.
Sam
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For a taste of Arizona, visit my home page:
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Does anyone have the jumper settings for the Tiara Arcnet LANCard AT? I
recently got one of these cards, and all of the jumpers were missing.
Does anyone know where to get drivers for this card? I've tried to find
Tiara's website, but I can't find one anywhere. The only one that may have
been it (www.tiaratech.com) doesn't seem to have an index page.
ThAnX,
///--->>>
-Jason Willgruber
(roblwill(a)usaor.net)
ICQ#: 1730318
<http://members.tripod.com/general_1>
Hi all.
Through a lovely bit of serendipity, I've just been offered a PDP-11/83
that's local to me. Before I accept, can anyone help me with the following
questions:
How big is this classic likely to be? Most PDPs I've seen were
refridgerator sized, with washing machine sized disk drives, tape drives,
etc. Is that about what I can expect, or is the 11/83 one of the later,
smaller 11s?
How heavy might it be? Would it be a lifting job for 2? 4? 8?
Does it require special power? My home isn't wired for anything beyond
household current.
Any help would be much appreciated. I'd love to save this machine, but
there are limits to my space/money/housemate's patience.
Alternatively, if anyone else is in or around Calgary, AB, and would be
interested in this machine, e-mail me off list. If I decide not to take it,
I can put you in touch with the owner.
Thanks in advance.
Mark Gregory
At 09:15 PM 5/14/99 -0400, you wrote:
>
>
>>Looks like Megan's the victim of an eBay gender-bending :-)
>
>Seems so...
>
>>BTW, what exactly is a "mamoth" housing, anyway??
>
>I think it is due to the fact that the people posting are used
>to PCs and more contemporary machines, and so a pdp-11 in an
>H960 is MAMOTH to them...
>
>:-)
>
> Megan Gentry
> Former RT-11 Developer
>
>+--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+
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>| Unix Support Engineering Group | (home): mbg!world.std.com |
>| Compaq Computer Corporation | addresses need '@' in place of '!' |
>| 110 Spitbrook Rd. ZK03-2/T43 | URL: http://world.std.com/~mbg/ |
>| Nashua, NH 03062 | "pdp-11 programmer - some assembler |
>| (603) 884 1055 | required." - mbg |
>+--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+
>
>
Dang! I wish I liven in WI. :)
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-Jason Willgruber
(roblwill(a)usaor.net)
ICQ#: 1730318
<http://members.tripod.com/general_1>
-----Original Message-----
From: Bruce Lane <kyrrin(a)bluefeathertech.com>
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
Date: Monday, March 15, 1999 6:10 PM
Subject: FW: Cleaning My Room
> Attention, would-be rescuers in or near Milwaukee, WI! There's a
>graduating student (Josh Hulbert) looking to get rid of a VAXen and PDP-11
>(unknown model) as freebies.
>
> If interested, contact him directly. Best of luck!
>
>-=-=- <break> -=-=-
>
>Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 16:26:47 -0600 (CST)
>From: Joshua Hulbert <hulbertj(a)msoe.edu>
>To: port-vax(a)netbsd.org
>Subject: Cleaning My Room
>Sender: port-vax-owner(a)netbsd.org
>Delivered-To: port-vax(a)netbsd.org
>
>Hello All,
>
>I will be graduating at the end of this quarter and moving several hundred
>miles away from my dorm, so I need to minimize the amount of stuff I take
>with me. I have the following VAX-related equipment, free for the taking:
>
>VS2000, with VR-160-DA, LK201, and puck-mouse. I have the 3-meter long
>cable for this one. It has an RD-54, and a RAM expansion to 20MB IIRC. I
>know it boots and runs NetBSD just fine, but there is nothing on the RD54.
>
>PDP-11: I know next to nothing about this thing. I picked it up for $10
>at American Science and Surplus. From what I could gather, it may have
>been a terminal server or something. It doesn't have enough RAM to load
>an OS, but it has some funky ROM card. If anyone is interested, I can
>send the M-numbers on the cards in the cage.
>
>Heres the catch: You have to come get it, as shipping would exceed the
>value of these boxes. I live in downtown Milwaukee, Wisconsin (USA).
>Again, if anyone is interested, I can send part numbers on all the parts.
>
>Joshua Hulbert
>Senior Electrical Engineer
>Milwaukee School of Engineering
>
>
>-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
>Bruce Lane, Owner and head honcho, Blue Feather Technologies
>http://www.bluefeathertech.com
>Amateur Radio:(WD6EOS) E-mail: kyrrin(a)bluefeathertech.com
>SysOp: The Dragon's Cave (Fido 1:343/272, 253-639-9905)
>"Our science can only describe an object, event, or living thing in our own
>human terms. It cannot, in any way, define any of them..."
>
<How big is this classic likely to be?
Typically one rack or possible a BA23 pedestal may be a BA123 end table.
<Most PDPs I've seen were refridgerator sized, with washing machine
<sized disk drives, tape drives,etc. Is that about what I can expect,
< or is the 11/83 one of the later, smaller 11s?
Smaller though It could be in a single rack with a big drive or have big
drives in seperate racks. The cpu card is however a single board
about 10.5x9 inches. (It's mid->late80s design)
<How heavy might it be? Would it be a lifting job for 2? 4? 8?
If in H960 (31dx21Wx*h * can be 30,40,50,60 inches typically 40) rack two
as it can easily weigh 200-400 pounds depending on what in the rack with
it. all of the weight is the rack and peripherals. If ba23 (30x24x9 inches,
pedestal) about 90 pounds, ba123 (28x26x13 inches, end table) 110pounds.
<Does it require special power? My home isn't wired for anything beyond
<household current.
Not unless it's set up with external RA8x drives. The basic system
used MFM 5.25 drives and was not a power hog. My 11/73 and with
Rx02 and and RL02 is very light on power(2x->3x a PC) and it's of
similar scale. An excellent hobbiest machine of the small iron class.
<Any help would be much appreciated. I'd love to save this machine, but
<there are limits to my space/money/housemate's patience.
Grab it! if too big you can pass it on. The 11/83 was a really good
machine using the Qbus backplane and generally small in size. It likely
most Qbus PDP-11s can be expanded to really immense systems but in the ear
it was sold it was most likely a physically small machine.
Of the microprocessor version of the PDP-11 (11/03, 11/23, 11/53, 11/73,
11/83 and the 11/93) it's one of the faster ones and a good catch.
(hint {11/05, 11/10, 11/20, 11/3x, 11/4x, 11/60 11/70 11/84} it's a big 11
with unibus and (11/03, 11/23, 11/53, 11/73, 11/83. 11/93) it's a micro
based 11 with Qbus and generally smaller.
It can run RT-11, RSTS, RSX-11 and most of the *nix versions with 2.11
being a good fit. The PUPs list (pups(a)minnie.adfa.oz.au) can set you up
with a license for all PDP-11 unix for 100$ and also has an archive.
Allison
Kindly reply to Gary, not to me:
>-------------------------------------------------------------------
> Wanted: Operational "Decmate II" system, manufactured by Digital
> Equipment Corporation in the mid-1980's. I live in Seattle.
> Please contact Gary Christenson: stlhdr(a)scn.org
>-------------------------------------------------------------------
Does anyone have or know where to find a 2.5" to 2.5" hard drive adapter
(lets you use a laptop drive in a desktop)? My laptop just died
(vertical/horizontal lines on screen, and that's it), and I NEED to get a
report off of the HD.
ThAnX!
///--->>>
-Jason Willgruber
(roblwill(a)usaor.net)
ICQ#: 1730318
<http://members.tripod.com/general_1>
These Data General NOVA 2s are being sold AS IS. They are
not in racks. They are the 10 slot version. They are in very good
external condition. The DG name plate has been removed and
replaced with an OEM's (STS - Systems Technologies Services),
otherwise everything is DG original.
Each has the following 3 boards:
* CPU
* Basic I/O
* 16K core memory
These computers run from 110VAC and come with a regular
domestic, 3-prong electrical plug and cord.
No documentation.
US$175 each plus shipping. Depending on where you live and
considering the dimensions and weight of each NOVA, shipping
will be between US$60 to 100.
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+1.519.744.2900 * EST/EDT GMT - 5
Collector - Commercial Mainframes & Minicomputers from
the 50s, 60s, & 70s and control panels and consoles.
Author & Publisher - A Guide to Collecting Computers &
Computer Collectibles * ISBN 0-9684244-0-6
.
Wasn't a 5 or 10 MB FH HD available for the PC?
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-Jason Willgruber
(roblwill(a)usaor.net)
ICQ#: 1730318
<http://members.tripod.com/general_1>
-----Original Message-----
From: Joe <rigdonj(a)intellistar.net>
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
Date: Monday, March 15, 1999 7:11 AM
Subject: Re: IBM PC 5150 with no drives?
>No, The PC and XT both came with FH drives. The XT also came with a FH hard
>drive.
>
> Joe
>
>At 08:35 AM 3/15/99 -0500, you wrote:
>>Was the 5150 the only one delivered with full-height drives? I've seen
>>both on the 5160, but don't know which is original.
>>
>>On Mon, 15 Mar 1999, Lawrence Walker wrote:
>>
>>> On 14 Mar 99 at 23:19, Merle K. Peirce wrote:
>>>
>>> > There wasa also a 5162 PC. We've got a couple of them. Does anyone
>know
>>> > how they were set up? full height or half height floppies? Any hard
>drives?
>>> >
>>> > On Sun, 14 Mar 1999, Tony Duell wrote:
>>> >
>>> > > >
>>> > > > >My understanding is that some of the very first 5150s did ship
>with no
>>> > > >
>>> > > > I have heard people talk about a 5150 a few times, where are some
>good pics
>>> > > > and specs so I can appear less dumb in the future?
>>> > >
>>> > > It's the original (1981-ish) IBM Personal Computer. The other common
>(for
>>> > > this group) numbers are :
>>> > >
>>> > > 5150 PC
>>> > > 5151 MDA monitor
>>> > > 5152 Graphics printer
>>> > > 5153 CGA monitor
>>> > > 5154 EGA monitor
>>> > > 5155 Portable PC (sewing machine style case)
>>> > >
>>> > > 5160 PC/XT
>>> > > 5161 Expansion Chassis
>>> > >
>>> > > 5170 PC/AT
>>> > >
>>> > > 5140 PC convertable (laptop) ?
>>> > >
>>> > > Now why do I remeber the above?
>>> > >
>>> > > -tony
>>> > >
>>> >
>>>
>>> That one set me searching my books and files.
>>> It's an XT 286 Scott Mueller's book has full system architecture specs.
>>>
>>> 80286 cpu at 6mhz w/0 wait states
>>> 640k mem
>>> 1.2M 1/2 ht fdd and 20m hdd came standard but it will
>>> support an additional 1/2 ht. Either 5 1/4, or 3 1/2
>>> 720/1440.
>>> Damn ! Another to add to my "stuff"
>>>
>>> To Tony's list could also be added
>>> 3270 PC an XT with 3270 connectivity
>>> 5279 ? it's monitor (have one but it's buried)
>>>
>>> XT 370 giving connectivity to and emulation of the S/370
>>>
>>> AT 3270 like the XT model but based on an AT
>>>
>>> 5144 PC Convertable mono monitor
>>> 5145 PC Convertable colour monitor
>>>
>>> And then at the height of his power the Big Blue God created
>>> the mighty PS/2 8580, MCA , and VGA
>>>
>>> ciao larry
>>> lwalker(a)interlog.com
>>>
>>
>>M. K. Peirce
>>Rhode Island Computer Museum, Inc.
>>215 Shady Lea Road,
>>North Kingstown, RI 02852
>>
>>"Casta est qui nemo rogavit."
>>
>> - Ovid
>>
>>
>
>
Hi Ethan,
Good luck, I've scoured the Flea Market twice (once on Friday and once
today) and there just ain't any DEC stuff here. One guy had a box of
Q-bus boards with a uVAX-II CPU plus some 8MB memory boards. If I had
need of them they might have been a deal at $10/each. And the guts of an
11/34a. Neither looked like it has been treated well. I did find a PDP-8
core stack but it was in a display case at my friends office where we
got some free tickets (sigh.) I did pick up some Nifty LCDs though for
$7 that I'm going to use to create a "disk bay console" ala the Linux
stuff.
--Chuck
About a week or so ago, I asked about IBM PCs... I had received
a few when we saved the decsystem-10s (they had been used as
consoles). I wasn't sure what they were (and hadn't really
looked at their model numbers) and asked how I might identify
IBM PCs...
I got lots of good info... and today (while cleaning the museum,
er, my apartment) I put them together and powered them up. They
both work...
One is a 5160, one is a 5150. The 5160 has what I think is a
10Mbyte hard drive and a full height 5.25" floppy. The 5150 has
again a 10Mbyte hard drive and a half height 5.25" floppy. Are
the floppies what account for the difference betweeen the 5160
and the 5150, or is there something else?
Otherwise the monitors, keyboards and units work fine... I think
I may put one up on ebay...
L@@K!! RARE!!! :-)
Megan Gentry
Former RT-11 Developer
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| Unix Support Engineering Group | (home): mbg!world.std.com |
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| Nashua, NH 03062 | "pdp-11 programmer - some assembler |
| (603) 884 1055 | required." - mbg |
+--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+
Is there a sure-fire way to determine if a sun mouse is a type 2 versis
type 3? It looks like the mice for type 3 have little side-pins on
the connector, so is it reasonable to assume that mice without this
feature are for sun-2 series computers?
I figured i'd go through the box of old sun mice at work, since they
are all so old as to predate any hardware we still have in operation.
Looks like there are quite a few sun3 mice, possibly a few sun 2.
-Lawrence LeMay
Hi! does anyone have any HP-HIL mice? I recently got a keyboard for my
Vectra RS/25c, but now I need a mouse for it. Anyone know what drivers I
can use for it?
Also - are there any drivers for the [HP-HIL] keyboard? There's some keys
on it that don't appear to do anything (such as "reset" and "menu").
There's also some blank (programmable?) keys.
When I boot, it says "keyboard connector not functioning" I'm assuming this
is the 5-pin DIN AT connector, but when I hook a keyboard up to it, it won't
function correctly (F-keys and number pad won't work). The HP-HIL keyboard
works fine, but I get the error.
ThAnX,
///--->>>
-Jason Willgruber
(roblwill(a)usaor.net)
ICQ#: 1730318
<http://members.tripod.com/general_1>
The GRiDCASE 1520 is back together.
I think it was easier to reassemble than to disassemble.
Condition: exactly the same as when I started, but with a little less
black paint (from where I used a screwdriver to try to pry the case
apart). I even left the battery in there.
Hard drive's still not spinning up, clock is still not set.
Oh, and the Compass still has a crazy clock, too.
--
Doug Spence
ds_spenc(a)alcor.concordia.ca
http://alcor.concordia.ca/~ds_spenc/
Hello, I have the following for 1.2*shipping:
IBM PC/36 5364 miniframe
Amiga 500 in pieces, non-working
Kevin Stewart
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After sifting through the overwritten remaining blocks of Luke's
home directory, Luke and PDP-1 sped away from /u/lars, across the surface
of the Winchester riding Luke's flying read/write head. PDP-1 had Luke stop
at the edge of the cylinder overlooking /usr/spool/uucp.
"Unix-to-Unix Copy Program;" said PDP-1. "You will never find a
more wretched hive of bugs and flamers. We must be cautious."
-- DECWARS
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Hi,
When I was using the GRiD Compass yesterday, I noticed that the system
clock was frozen at 17-Nov-1985, 9:01 p.m. I tried setting it for
14-May-1999, 9:46 a.m. I thought it would b frozen again at that time,
but when I powered the beast up again to make this call I was surprised to
see that the clock had advanced to 9:56 a.m.! :) And instead of the 15th,
it says it is the 25th! Is this an early Y2K problem? :)
Is there an evil battery inside, about to leak all over my precious bubble
memory modules?
Oh, and BTW, how much bubble memory am I supposed to have? Currently it
has "334 in use, 52 free". That's 386 units. It says "Usage (in 1000s
of characters)" beneath the system memory report (I can look at these
things from inside GRiDVT100, luckily) but I'm not sure if it applies to
bubble memory as well as normal system memory. After all, the bubble
memory is where the filesystem lives, which is a bit different.
My system mem is currently "System: 153 Application: 51 Data: 18 Free:
40". That's 262,000, which is about 256 when divided by 1024. Is GRiD-OS
eating most of my memory? What a hog! ;)
I found the little blurb in Popular Science, August 1982, p.42, and it
says that the machine comes with 256K each of bubble and normal memory.
And for $8000. Was there an expensive option to get more bubble memory?
Or is that what differentiates the 1100 from the 1101?
Oh yeah, where is the OS stored? And applications like GRiDWrite and
GRiDVT100? The VT100 emulator seems to load slowly enough, which implies
that it's in bubble. So, like, if I reformat my bubble memory, I'm toast,
right?
I would very much like to have some sort of backup of everything in bubble
memory. I don't seem to have XMODEM or any other transfer protocols on
this thing. Argh.
--
Doug Spence
ds_spenc(a)alcor.concordia.ca
http://alcor.concordia.ca/~ds_spenc/
On May 15, 0:45, Tony Duell wrote:
> To get back to the video ULA, it contains (AFAIK) no DACs, because the
> Beeb essentially worked with 3 TTL level signals for the video output
> (that were encoded outside the ULA for composite PAL). Said ULA contains
> just about all the video data path logic between the RAM data bus and the
> RGB outputs (in other words the palette, pixel mux/shift register,
> bits/pixel control logic, etc). That's most of the video data path. The
> other part of the display system - the address generation - is provided
> by the 6845.
Yes, you're right there, of course. I must remember to engage brain before
putting keyboard in gear ;-) Especially when short of sleep. I've worked
on literally hundreds if not thousands of the things, so I should have
remembered a bit better!
> I know that darn linear PSU. It had separate 7805s for the 3 outputs that
> fed the main board....
There were no less than three versions of the black linear PSU. None of
them were satisfactory, but only one, the "adapter and converter", earned
the obvious nickname.
> All the docs I've seen imply that any device connected to the tube or the
> 1MHz bus shouldn't draw significant power from the 5V line on those
> ports. Connecting to the 'disk drive power connector' on the PSU can was
> OK, of course. But most (all?) external devices had their own PSUs.
If you draw too much from one connector, on Issue 3 or earlier PCBs, you
can end up with a significant voltage drop. It's OK on later ones.
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Dept. of Computer Science
University of York
This is mainly off topic, but deals with some interesting ways to find info
on the Internet. Plus I've got some cool classic computer related links.
After sitting at MacOS 8.1 on my PowerMac for around a year, thanks to 8.5
causeing some problems for me when I tried to upgrade when it came out
(these problems haven't been an issue since December), I went ahead and
went straight to MacOS 8.6 last night.
I've been hearing about this great new search tool that was introduced in
MacOS 8.5 and has been updated in 8.6. Last night briefly I gave it a try
and was impressed, so this morning while working on my morning pot of
coffee, I've been playing with it. I used PDP-11/44 as the seed, and have
dug up some really cool classic computer related stuff. If you get a
chance to try it out, I'd recommend running a few searches on computers
that you're interested in.
Here are a couple interesting links.
http://www.tec.puv.fi/~s99137/index1.html An interesting page of old
computers, including a PDP-11/44. This page led me to the next link.
http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/retro/ is "The Retrocomputing Museum", at first
I thought it was one of the listmembers pages, and then I found out it's
maintained by Eric S. Raymond (yes, of Open Source fame), and someone else.
http://www.vaxarchive.org/compmus/kees/garage.htmlhttp://www.vaxarchive.org/hw/index.html Nice page of links about VAX Hardware
http://www.telnet.hu/hamster/dr/ Akos Varga has been busy it looks like!
http://www.telnet.hu/hamster/dr/ka630.html Didn't someone recently want
info on the KA630 this page looks worth a look! Or for the KA650
http://www.telnet.hu/hamster/dr/ka650.html
OK, I'm done wasting everyones time, please forgive my enthusiasm for
something new and cool from Apple that is a cool way to find Classic
Computer stuff. Oh, and yes, I realize there is probably some web site out
there that will give you simular capabilities.
Zane
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Hi Gang:
I learned recently of a number of pdp-11s and Vaxen going surplus in the
Vancouver area.
Looks like various LSI 11s, spare parts, boards, docs. Peripherals include
9 track and (likely) DAT tape, RD53 and RD54 drives, some SMD drives. Vaxes
are of the Microvax III type. Full set of VMS docs, version 4.x. Also an
optical disk drive, unknown make/model, WORM type, about 18" platters. A
total of about 4-5 systems.
More info will be posted as I get it.
Kevin
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Kevin McQuiggin VE7ZD
mcquiggi(a)sfu.ca
I'm not sure if this in On-topic or Off- topic. What year was the Mac II
introduced?
Anyway -
Does anyone have, or know where I can get, for a fairly low price a MIDI
card for a Mac II? I'm also looking for a network card for a Mac II.
ThAnX,
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-Jason Willgruber
(roblwill(a)usaor.net)
ICQ#: 1730318
<http://members.tripod.com/general_1>
Good morning. I received this address from Brian Mahoney and since I collect
old computers, he says I should be on your mailing list. I am always in
desperate need of restoration information. Can you please tell me how to
subscribe? Thank you, Tim Knight
On May 15, 0:47, Tony Duell wrote:
> I wasn't really moaning about the AUG - it's an excellent manual (and you
> get mine over my deaad body ;-)). It's just that most BBC hackers had
> that manual and not much else, so that stuff that wasn't covered in that
> book tends to be thought of as 'undocumented'.
I've still got mine, thanks! It's a pity some dealers were not inclined to
be more forthcoming, because Acorn did make a lot of documentation
available, and would often provide it to users who wrote in; but dealers
were always able to get it for customers, and even had a system (SID) to
obtain lots of information, upgrade software, etc, via dial-up. They also
had a large 2-volume set of 2" ring binders with diagrams, info, etc
(that's where those System diagrams I gave you came from).
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Pete Peter Turnbull
Dept. of Computer Science
University of York
