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by fpp＠concentric.net

>. The abuse is where >a third party pretends to be the seller, contacts the second etc. bidders >and requests payment be sent to a blind PO Box, then skips with the funds >never sending any goods. >BTW I just sent an inquiry to eBay to see if this is rumor, hoax, or fact. This, I agree, is a scam. Problem seems to be that Ebay is just so huge. I heard so much about Ebay here that as a joke I listed an old, empty, Zippo fuel can. It sold for $22.22 plus shipping! My Lord, that explains the stupid prices for old computers on Ebay. These people have no lives and a hell of a lot of money. Now if I only could find that old can of......

26 years

(fwd) WARNING! New Ebay SCAM! (fwd)

by fpp＠concentric.net

>It means that the "dealer" has an item X in their inventory, they see that someone else on Ebay is selling an equivalent X. The dealer follows the auction to completion, when complete, the dealer sends email to the second highest bidder and asks if they would like to purchase the item from them for the price they offered the seller. This is a scam? Give it a break guys. If I bid on something and am not the high bidder I would like a chance to buy. If you don't then don't reply. Sometimes you can get in a bidding war and end up pay many times the value of an item, I.E. Imsai or Altec on Ebay, Is it really that different than making an offer here to someone who has something you want? So who looses if a seller contacts you and you agree on a fair price? Ebay? Time to face the facts Ebay, Yahoo, etc., etc. auctions are going to stay a while.

26 years

(fwd) WARNING! New Ebay SCAM! (fwd)

by steverob＠hotoffice.com

> The above was an explanation of the legitimate practice. The abuse is where > a third party pretends to be the seller, contacts the second etc. bidders > and requests payment be sent to a blind PO Box, then skips with the funds > never sending any goods. > > BTW I just sent an inquiry to eBay to see if this is rumor, hoax, or fact. > I always check the email address of the person requesting payment. If it is not the same as listed in Ebay, I would get really suspicious. Steve Robertson - <steverob(a)hotoffice.com>

26 years

Who are you?

by steverob＠hotoffice.com

> There's a certain amount of disagreement on whether PCs are classic or not. > One camp says that any computer over 10 years old qualifies, another will > say that since the PC archetecture is at the core of modern PCs that it doesn't. > Personally I say welcome to the group. I have no particular interest in 286 and newer machines but, many of those machines do qualify under the 10 year rule so, welcome aboard. Steve Robertson - <steverob(a)hotoffice.com>

26 years

OT:Jock or Nerd

by rigdonj＠intellistar.net

I know this is OT but thought you guys and gals might find it entertaining. Joe > >The answer to the eternal question "Is it better to be a jock or a nerd?", I >submit the following: > >Michael Jordan makes over $300,000 a game. That = $10,000 a minute, at an >average 30 minutes per game. With $40 million in endorsements, he makes >$178,100 a day, working or not. > >If he sleeps 7 hours a night, he makes $52,000 every night while visions of >sugarplums dance in his head. > >If he goes to see a movie, it'll cost him $7.00, but he'll make $18,550 >while he's there. > >If he decides to have a 5 minute egg, he'll make $618 while boiling it. > >He makes $7,415/hr more than minimum wage. > >He'll make $3,710 while watching each episode of Friends. > >If he wanted to save up for a new Acura NSX ($90,000) it would take him a >whole 12 hours. > >If someone were to hand him his salary and endorsement money, they would >have to do it at the rate of $2.00 every second. > >He'll probably pay around $200 for a nice round of golf, but will be >reimbursed $33,390 for that round. > >Assuming he puts the federal maximum of 15% of his income into a tax >deferred account (401k), he will hit the federal cap of $9500 at 8:30 a.m. >on January 1st. > >If you were given a penny for every 10 dollars he made, you 'd be living >comfortably at $65,000 a year. > >He'll make about $19.60 while watching the 100 meter dash in the Olympics. > >He'll make about $15,600 during the Boston Marathon. > >While the common person is spending about $20 for a meal in his trendy >Chicago restaurant, he'll pull in about $5600. > >This Year, he'll make more than twice as much as all U.S. past Presidents >for all of their terms combined. > >Amazing isn't it? > >----------------------------------------------------------------- >However, if Jordan saves 100% of his income for the next 250 years, he'll >still have less than Bill Gates has today. > >Game over. >Nerd wins. >

26 years

(fwd) WARNING! New Ebay SCAM! (fwd)

by jpl15＠netcom.com

Usually I remain aloof from e-bay stuff, as I do not use, or much like, the system. HOWEVER, this seems an easy way to get scammed by someone and does not appear to be reasonably detectable until it's too late. I have deleted identifying bits in the text to keep from propagating innocent IDs all over. Forwarded message follows: -------------------------------------------------------- Xref: ix.netcom.com rec.radio.swap I don't normally post on this group, but this is so important that it needs to get out as quickly as possible before anybody else gets burned. Late last month (April) I had put a XXXX repeater up for sale on Ebay. It was bid on by quite a few different persons. The high bidder on it didn't contact me for four days and finally sent an email backing out of the deal. This resulted in a negative feedback being placed which made it public knowledge that he had back out. Two days ago I was contacted by two of the higher bidders. Each had been contacted by a person in Xxxxxx Xxxxx, California wanting to know if they were still willing to honor their bid on the repeater! Now this is the very same repeater sitting in my shop as I type this! Since the email address of the seller in the original auction was overlooked (you would have to do a search of past auctions to get a peek at it) this person played the part very well as the owner and managed to get two money orders sent to him. The address he uses is a mail drop on XXXXX Rd in Xxxxx Xxxxxx, CA. If you see this street come up in any dealings with a person out in that area BEWARE! PLEASE if you have been or get contacted by anybody on Ebay who wants to pursue a bid you made on an item, double check his email address >from the original auction page. Ebay has been notified and I'm pushing to get the bidding history either removed or modified to notify all involved that the history has been accessed. Thank you for taking the time to read. Signed XXXXXXXXX ---------------------------------------------------------- End forwarded message Since we here are dealing in a different line of equipment, I did not include the alleged miscreant's address or city... but the algorithm of the scam can be applied anywhere. Of course I realize that anyone can post anything they like to Usenet, but this has the Ring of Truth to it. Caveat Vendor..... just another reason I dislike e-bay. No *real* auction is timed... the sale is made final when no other bidder increments the price... so even 'sniping' has a balancing force against it: the ever-rising price. When there is a known time limit for the sale to expire, then how can that be fair? Cheers John

26 years

Kermit-11 user manual

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On May 17, 16:12, David Hoskins wrote: > Subject: Kermit-11 user manual > Kermit-11 is a file transfer program that runs under RT-11 and posibly = > other PDP11 systems such as RSTS, RSX, TSX It not only runs under those operating systems, but under just about every system known to man... -- Pete Peter Turnbull Dept. of Computer Science University of York

26 years

Dayton Hamvention report

by ethan_dicks＠yahoo.com

--- Hans Franke <Hans.Franke(a)mch20.sbs.de> wrote: > > I did make the T-shirts, one from the photo of a working PDP-8/e and one > > from the scan of the marketing literature. The text above and below the > > picture said: > > > Wanted: PDP8's > > > Report all sightings to classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu > > > Several people walked up and started conversations based on seeing two of > > us wandering around with a PDP on our backs. Nobody had any spares. :-( > > Say, what about a licenced copy of your T ? I don't know about getting into _that_ business. It was OK to make a couple of shirts from transfer paper, but it's quite time consuming to print out the sheet, trim the edges, iron the shirt and backing pillowcase, then apply the image. If I owned the image, I'd consider it, but the image that I liked the best was the photo of someone's personal machine; they own the copyright, but were nice enough to let me use the image for my own purposes. -ethan _____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com

26 years

FW:[oldies] How to get rid of DEC Rainbow 100's?

by pjoules＠coleg-powys.ac.uk

As usual, contact the poster rather than myself: On Sun, 16 May 1999 16:28:45 -0700, in comp.sys.dec.micro cryorunner(a)aol.com (Rhett James Barnes) wrote: >I have a couple of DEC Rainbow 100's here that I want to get rid of. I >feel kind of guilty just throwing them away, as I have a pretty good >collection of origial software with manuals, and one printer, and I >figured that some collector might enjoy having a fairly complete system. >I know it's not a very popular computer, but I figured that there has to >be someone out there. Anyone have any ideas about how to rescue these >things from the garbage can? >-Rhett >cryorunner(a)aol.com > >PS. Sorry for posting about a 1982 on this 1999 group, but it's been hard >to find an appropriate outlet.

26 years

Dayton Hamvention report

by Hans.Franke＠mch20.sbs.de

> I did make the T-shirts, one from the photo of a working PDP-8/e and one > from the scan of the marketing literature. The text above and below the > picture said: > Wanted: PDP8's > Report all sightings to classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu > Several people walked up and started conversations based on seeing two of > us wandering around with a PDP on our backs. Nobody had any spares. :-( Say, what about a licenced copy of your T ? Gruss H. -- Traue keinem Menschen der 5 Tage blutet und immer noch nicht tod ist.

26 years

good source of obscure IBM parts?

by red＠bears.org

As the new owner of an abandoned IBM product (Thinkpad Power Series 850, 1995, not on topic, though highly advanced at the time and now abandoned) I was wondering if anybody had any favourite IBM remarketers they turned to when in need of IBM unobtanium, or were chummy with any warehouse managers... I'm willing to throw money at this one, it's too close to being Really Cool to not. (: For those unfamiliar with the Thinkpad Power Series line, they are IBM's brief foray into the RS/6000 laptop market. The 850 sports a 100 MHz PPC 603e (not speedy) and a surprising array of multimedia capabilities (including NTSC video I/O), and runs AIX up to 4.1.5, or 4.2.something if one feels lucky. I'd appreciate any leads anybody could pass on. ok r.

26 years

OT - Rantish, but a warning

by jim＠calico.litterbox.com

Way off topic here, and rantish to boot, but just to give y'all a heads up - Don't install Internet Explorer 5. Bunches of reasons, but my big one is this: If you are ill advised enough to uninstall explorer 4, you *can't* get 5 off your system. And at least when I tried it has destabilized my system to the point my desktop crashes about every 10 minutes. I'll be migrating to BeOS as soon as they mail my copy to me. *grumble* On the other hand, and considerably more on topic, the new hobbiest media for openVMS is supposedly going to be available on the 18th of this month from http://www.montagar.com/hobbyist/media.html. -- Jim Strickland jim(a)DIESPAMMERSCUMcalico.litterbox.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Vote Meadocrat! Bill and Opus in 2000 - Who ELSE is there? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

26 years

Australia: 8080A chips, eproms, dynamic rams, i/o chips, data books

by davhos＠magna.com.au

I have four 8080 computer systems to dispose of. They were used in a dedicated industrial application - not as a readily reprogrammable system. Some of the chips may however be of use to someone - preferably someone who can collect from Chatswood, Sydney Australia. The main chips are (I am only listing chips in sockets) 4 off 8080A about 200 dynamic memory chips. some are marked 4030, others 4060. they are also referred to as 2107B-4 in the documentation. about 25 eproms type 1702A about 12 off 8212 i/o port chips about 30 off chips marked SN74S412. I cannot find this in my old data book but from the circuit they appear to be doing the same job as 8212 Also available are Intel data catalogues from 1976 and 1977 and a Signetics Bipolar and Mos memory databook dated 1977 David

26 years

Kermit-11 user manual

by davhos＠magna.com.au

Is anybody interested in a copy of a kermit-11 user manual dated 1985 I don't have the software just the manual. Kermit-11 is a file transfer program that runs under RT-11 and posibly other PDP11 systems such as RSTS, RSX, TSX David

26 years

My "Fresh Meat" at Easter Forli' Hamfest (Re: Fresh Meat)

by chemif＠mbox.queen.it

At 17:17 15/05/99 +1, Hans wrote: >> >I just picked up a Copmaq Portable PLUS (DM 35), a >> >Portable III (DM 40), >> >Is there any site with information on the Compaq Portabele III ? Yesterday and today I "lived" inside the pavillions of Forli' expocenter where every year take place the Easter Hamfest. I have also picked a Compaq Portable II at 26 Eu (abt.27 U$D) It's a 8086 luggable machine with CRT -> VERY HEAVY! I've also picked: -WISE WY 3216-40 (@ 15 EU no monitor)It's a 386 with the processor and the RAM mounted in two different ISA cards, linked thru a upper connector. The keyboard is the classical WY 160 grey terminal keyboard with mmj connector. The system has a nice LCD retro-illuminated display and a big Megnetic Peripherals MFM (noisy) disk that reached the edge of his days. -C=ommodore PC 20 III (@ only 13 EU, no monitor) mint conditions 3,5 fdd probably a 286. -Some printers (bought not as vintage machines) - HP 320, HP520 (both @ 57 EU) - 2x Epson FX850 @ 35 EU each (they were used by REUTERS somewhere) The man that sold me the Wyse has also a Mannesmann Tally 8 bit optical tape reader @62 EU. I saw a very similar device inside a frontpanel of a automatic plasma welding machine as a numeric controller. I have taken a picture with my digital camera and I will put it on a webpage someday (I just started a HTML/Frontpage course this week) The reader was new inside its carton box and the man told that he still have 15 available. Another couple of yummy think I've seen where a Sinclair ZX 81 and a TIMEX 1000 The bad new where the prices (please seat safetly): 150 EU the first :( and abt. 220 EU the second!!! :o >P.S.: and speaking of today, new members of my junk yard are: snip! >Olivetti CTV 250 Typewriter/Textprocessor (back in the 80s, Olivetti >had the most impressive design, not just grey boxes - I still would >love to get hands on one of these small BASIC able 'handheld' systems >as they where in unse in a lot of Cambio (Money Change) shops - top >notch design and a cute interior) BASIC "handeld"? can you explain more about that? you mean the P.O.S./BANCOMAT small units with thermal printer? In case you like that kind of Oilvetti design, it's possible to contact many wharehouse near Ivrea that stocks also new machines, E.G. the TE550 teletype machine that I've bought new @ 92 EU while 3 years ago it was sold to the National Postal Service @ abt. 2500 EU!! ;D Ciao Riccardo Romagnoli <chemif(a)mbox.queen.it> I-47100 Forl?

26 years

Northstar Update

by allisonp＠world.std.com

<I can repair the RAM 16 A3 but I don't have the switch settings and <jumper settings (J) to set it to start at 2000H. What are these? Is that a NS ram 16? I have a mod of the MDS-A3 (SD) controller to put Phantom/ on the bus. However the card has to respect it. The address hole needed for the controller is from E800 thru EFFFh. <Also, I have a RAM 16 A2 board that I can try. Are the switch settings <and the jumper settings on it the same as the A3 to start at location <2000H? Dont ahve them for that card. Never used any of the NS* ram cards. <Finally, will NSDOS run in 16K ram? I see no indication in the manuals <that it won't but it's a good question to ask anyway. NSdos runs fine in 8k! the dos is d00H (DD 3328) or a00(SD 2560) large and starts at 2000. Basic however does fit in 16k but barely. So happens I'm resurecting a NS*Horizon I got a few weeks back. Mine is however working just fine once I set up the serial for my standard setup and to match the Horizon I've had for 21 years. Allison

26 years

FYI - Classic items at JDR

by rcini＠email.msn.com

Hello, all: While looking at the new JDR Microdevices catalog, a few items jumped out: 1. S100 bus connectors #100P-WW $1.99 2. AppleBus connectors #50P-WW $2.99 3. CBM/KIM/AIM #44P-WW $0.99 4. Intel 8272 FDC $0.99 5. CTS256AL2 (text-to-speech) $4.99 6. 1793 FDC $7.99 7. TMS99532 (modem chip) $3.99 [ Rich Cini/WUGNET [ ClubWin!/CW7 [ MCP Windows 95/Windows Networking [ Collector of "classic" computers [ http://highgate.comm.sfu.ca/~rcini/classiccmp/ [ http://highgate.comm.sfu.ca/~rcini/pdp11/ <---------------------------- reply separator

26 years

Dayton Hamvention report

by donm＠cts.com

On Sun, 16 May 1999, Ethan Dicks wrote: ________O/_______ O\ > P.S. - where's a good place to get a Kaypro boot disk? I have a licensed > copy of teledisk so I should be able to make them from bits, yes? E-mail me the EPROM number(s) that are on a paper label on the chip and I can send a TeleDisk image to you. - don donm(a)cts.com *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* Don Maslin - Keeper of the Dina-SIG CP/M System Disk Archives Chairman, Dina-SIG of the San Diego Computer Society Clinging tenaciously to the trailing edge of technology. Sysop - Elephant's Graveyard (CP/M) Z-Node 9 - 619-454-8412 *--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--* see old system support at http://www.psyber.com/~tcj/ visit the "Unofficial" CP/M Web site at http://www.devili.iki.fi/cpm/ with Mirror at http://www.mathcs.emory.edu/~cfs/cpm/

26 years

Mop booting (8) 3100'S ?

by allisonp＠world.std.com

<the /usr subtree. The remaining files under "/" take up around 10-12Megs, <then you'll also need separate swap files which adds another X Megs per <machine. You can probably get by with more of the setup being shared, but Has anyone considered the hack that is done under VMS for small disk impared systems? IE: net or local boot, local swap everything else from the net host. Then the seap drive can be a small 20-40mb drive and the swapping is faster if local even with PIO. that would yeild a fairly fast system that wouldn't beat teh disks to death on the host. Allison

26 years

LCDs (Re: PDP-8/e frontpanel pictures)

by ethan_dicks＠yahoo.com

--- Chuck McManis <cmcmanis(a)mcmanis.com> wrote: > Ethan Dicks wrote: > > I'm very familiar with them; I wrote the LCDProc driver for the B.G.Micro > > "PIC-an-LCD" serial<->LCD adapter chip. > > I did some further research on them and these Optrex LCDs have an LED > backlight, are 160 x 128 can be run in graphics mode... Fancy. I would have loved to have seen graphical LCDs. I've only had the text-mode (with programmable characters) to play with. Have you been to the LCDProc site? (lcdproc.omnipotent.net) It's the one that I'm most familiar with, and is very well along the development chain. > I'm pretty excited. I went back on Saturday and they were all gone (doh!) > So I've only go the two. Bummer. -ethan _____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com

26 years

Acorn RiscPC 600 (OT - only 5 years old)

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On May 16, 16:22, Tony Duell wrote: > [BBC power supplies] > I'd love to see circuits for all the versions, or at least circuit > descriptions. On the other hand, Acorn PSU schematics are generally hard > to find for some odd reason. I never saw schematics for any of the black ones; I've got the diagram for the Astec as you know. I once did have a note of what the chopper was -- or rather, I had a part number that worked. I worked for Computer Field Maintenance for a while, and we used to repair them (though they didn't actually fail very often. They seem to be pretty robust). BSR made a copy under license, but the BSR ones don't seem to be so good -- not so well regulated, for a start, so not so tolerant of overloads. > All my Beebs have the traditional Astec SMPSUs. BTW, does anyone know > what the chopper transistor is in these units? It's the same in virtually > all Astec supplies - a TO3 can on a small PCB/heatsink mounted at right > angles to the main board. There is never a number on it. All I can remember is that it's NPN, I think. I'll dig through some old files if I can figure out a way to read the old winchester backups, and see... -- Pete Peter Turnbull Dept. of Computer Science University of York

26 years

Altair, pfeh! I own a Univac.

by yakowenk＠cs.unc.edu

Well, okay, parts of one. Big parts. For now it is in storage. Guess I have to get a basement next. I'm not even sure exactly what I've got. It is from a Univac 9200. Looks like a line printer and control console in one very big box, about the size of desk, but maybe twice as tall. Switches & lights, and discrete transistors. It was the box that had the "Univac 9200" label on it, so maybe (hopefully) it is the CPU. When I move it >from its current temporary home to a more permanent one, I'll get pix & details. There is another box that I didn't get, but may still end up with after its winner picks a few bits out of it. Seems _he_ actually has customers still running these things, and needs a few specific parts. So even if I get it, it won't be complete. But I can't complain, with those parts going to keep another Univac running. Also got a card punch, which I got home by partially disassembling it, to make it fit in my car. When I opened it up, I found a three ring binder labelled "Univac Servicing Documents" - schematics, mech drawings, all sorts of good stuff! So, anybody know anything about 9200's? A web search didn't turn up much. Introduced in June 1967, 8K of memory, that's about it. Bill. (Man, this is awesome!)

26 years

PDP-8/e frontpanel pictures

by ethan_dicks＠yahoo.com

--- Chuck McManis <cmcmanis(a)mcmanis.com> wrote: > Hi Ethan, > > Good luck, I've scoured the Flea Market twice (once on Friday and once > today) and there just ain't any DEC stuff here. Not much at all. I spotted a few uVAX 2000's and a uVAX 3100. > I did find a PDP-8 core stack but it was in a display case at my friends > office where we got some free tickets (sigh.) Ugh. > I did pick up some Nifty LCDs though for $7 that I'm going to use to create > a "disk bay console" ala the Linux stuff. I'm very familiar with them; I wrote the LCDProc driver for the B.G.Micro "PIC-an-LCD" serial<->LCD adapter chip. From the white tent in the back corner of the flea market, I got a box of 20x2 florescent displays for $20 (different protocol, same concept as the LCDs). If you want to write offline about interfacing LCDs, let me know. -ethan _____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com

26 years

Dayton Hamvention report

by ethan_dicks＠yahoo.com

As has already been mentioned, Dayton is _not_ the place to go to look for used DEC parts. I only spotted a couple of table-top uVAXen. I did get a Kaypro 2 for $25 (and the kid dragged to my car!), a $2 VIC-20 with $1 C2N and some modern stuff. I didn't spend anywhere near as much as I usually do. Not all that many things lept out at me. There were scads of $5 and $10 Pentium boards, crates of ISA NICs and lots of stuff that just isn't all that interesting. I did make the T-shirts, one from the photo of a working PDP-8/e and one >from the scan of the marketing literature. The text above and below the picture said: Wanted: PDP8's Report all sightings to classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu Several people walked up and started conversations based on seeing two of us wandering around with a PDP on our backs. Nobody had any spares. :-( P.S. - where's a good place to get a Kaypro boot disk? I have a licensed copy of teledisk so I should be able to make them from bits, yes? _____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com

26 years

Acorn RiscPC 600 (OT - only 5 years old)

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On May 15, 19:10, Tony Duell wrote: > I did have the circuits in front of me. I always find it better to argue > from possible facts :-).... But that takes all the fun (risk) out of it :-) > > There were no less than three versions of the black linear PSU. None of > > them were satisfactory, but only one, the "adapter and converter", earned > > the obvious nickname. > > I think I've only seen one of them. Which is the particularly bad one? It has a label identifying it as "Adapter/Eliminator" or similar. They're *very* rare, partly because Acorn tried to recall them, and partly because not many were sent out before the problem was spotted. There's one fairly common one, which *isn't* particularly prone to go "phut", and that's probably what you have. The only thing wrong with that one is that it doesn't have much spare capacity, and therefore has no connector for a disk (or w.h.y.). -- Pete Peter Turnbull Dept. of Computer Science University of York

26 years

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