Have you tried AltaVista's "Babelfish"?
http://babelfish.altavista.com/cgi-bin/translate?
(And yes, the "?" is part of the URL)
>
>OT: That brings up a good point. I've tried before, searching
>for "something" to translate Russian pages. What I found was
<snip>
> Are there any suggestions for a better & free translator?
>
Bill Richman
incolor.inetnebr.com/bill_r
(Home of the COSMAC Elf
microcomputer simulator!)
>I am by no means well acquainted with the Honeywell line. But I was under
>the impression that a Honeywell DPS was never called a BULL, it was called a
>DPS. The only system with the Honeywell brand that was called a BULL was
>actually an OEM'ed RS6000 that Honeywell put the BULL label on.
Hmm... I haven't seen the unit, just talked to the fellow on the phone.
I asked him what kind of computer it was, he put the phone down to go
look at it, came back, and said it was a "Honeywell Bull", also giving me
the dimensions (4x3x2). The computer was used by a company that
assembles line and bucket trucks. I believe they had a good number of
remote terminals set up, and used the system to transfer specs and price
sheets.
Tom Owad
At 12:34 PM 5/18/99 -0400, you wrote:
>Here's a bit of a report of what I found at the Hamvention. I was there on
>Friday from about 09:15 to 17:30 except lunch for which we went off the
>grounds and on Saturday from about 08:00 to 13:30. Therefore with my method
>of checking every promising box and poking around under tables I saw about
>3/4 of the whole fleamarket. I was looking for quite a variety of things
>-not just old computers.
>
>Stuff I dragged home were two DG Ones (model 2208A), two DG printers which
>go with them (model 2230), one AC power supply and one printer cable all
>for $15; VMEbus boards including one unopened Force Computers SYS68Y DRAM-2
>memory board ($5) and four Motorola CODEX boards, $15; an IOMEGA Ditto Easy
>3200 external tape drive (Travan 3) with cable and power supply, $25.
>
>And my best find of all: a virtually mint, seemingly unused HP9000/300
>computer with 7958B hard drive (150 Mb IIRC) and 9144A 16-track tape drive.
>A label on the 98574 CPU module indicated it's been upgraded to a 375 which
>is just about the ultimate of the 300-series. A 68030 processor running at
>50MHz and 16 Mb of RAM. Nice!
>
>I've been casually looking for one of the 300's for a couple of years. My
>ex-colleague who's an engineering manager from my ex-company's German
>parent company told me last week when he visited the house that an HP
>9000/332 system was promised to me and will be shipped to me from their
>Chicago facility late this year.
>
>My new 9000/375 system was built into a 19" rack enclosure which was in
>turn bolted into a fiberglas transit case about 3' tall, 2' wide by about
>2.5' deep. It was part of a military surplus system. I did not get a chance
>to find the AN system designation on the rack or case, just that it weighed
>97 pounds and required two persons to carry.
>
>Apparently it had been built and not used *ever*. Just stuck in a military
>warehouse probably as a result of a military contract which didn't go
>anywhere or as a result of the Cold War ceasing or something. I absolutely
>cannot see *any* dust on the leading edges of the fan blades so this system
>has maybe only an hour or two at most of operation :) SNs are from mid-89.
>There's a Federal Stock Number or system part number rubber stamped onto
>the right side of the computer box. A probably earlier FSN or contractor's
>PN has been blacked out with paint (about 3/8" x 1.5" strip) and the
>present number rubber stamped onto the case after the upgrade to the 375
>model was done. A little ugly, but what the hey! It shows a bit about the
>original purpose of the machine. That's the only indication of any special
>use of it. The update was done in December '91 according to a date
>handwritten on the CPU board tag inside.
>
>I was passing by the previous owner's space when I overheard one of the
>guys asking "What is it?" as they were taking the cover off the 7958B box
>to try and figure out just what *it* was. I looked and saw the main box was
>a 300 system (Whoa!! Let's stop and look!), became interested and checked
>it out. I offered an explanation as to what it was, what it was usually
>used for, typical processors used in the 300's, etc. Apparently the
>then-new owner who'd just dragged it to his space from a nearby surplus
>dealer didn't see a use for it for himself and offered the HP 9000 items to
>me and I paid him nearly all the remaining money I had to spend: $40 for
>all three boxes. He kept the transit case and 19" rack which bolted inside
>as he had a use for it back at home in Houston. He didn't recognize at
>first when he bought the whole transit case (for $50) that those 3 HP boxes
>which were clamped onto rack slide plates were actually a computer. He was
>happy somebody got it who knew what it was and could use it and he was
>happy to have the transit case. I love happiness :-) Only thing I had to
>promise him was to email him with what I found on the disk. He's a UNI*
>system admin and had enough UNI* machines of his own. I'm surprised he
>hadn't seen an HP 9000 machine before but these 300's were obsolete some
>time ago and he indicated he was always an Intel-based UNI* user.
>
>I've got a copy of HP-UX 7.0 on tape with the license, both still
>shrinkwrapped, and manual set that I've had for some time. Now I've got a
>machine to hang it upon! :) BTW, ver. 7.0 is near or at the end of HP-UX
>support for the 300's. Have BASIC-UX ver. 5.0 w/license and docs too!
>
>The keyboard and monitor were some sort of rugged, militarized things built
>into an operator's station. The fellow who had it never got from the
>surplus dealer as it obviously didn't quite interest him and maybe he
>didn't realize what it was. If it's what I *think* I saw an hour or so
>earlier at a surplus dealer's space not far away it definitelly wasn't the
>normal HP keyboard as it was part of some other section of the system used
>as the operations console and was connected via AN/MS connectors and
>cables. Have absolutely no idea as to the function of the whole system. If
>there's something on the hard disk when it comes up it may give me a good
>clue. But I gotta get it lit up first.
>
>So, does anybody have a very decent looking keyboard and HP-HIL k'bd cable
>they're willing to sell to me? Keyboard model *I think* should be a 46020
>or 46021 or a 98203C.
I have a fairly substantial pile of 46021 keyboards, HP-HIL cables, and
mice for the 9000-300 series, and you are welcome to have one of each for
free. All I ask is reimbursmment for the shipping charges.
Regards,
I don't know the exact differences as I have no
>pictures or specs. but they are mentioned in the "Peripheral Installation
>Guide for the HP 9000 Series 200/300", which I have had for some time, as
>being used with the 300-series. I'll post a separate request for a k'brd
>and other info in a separate msg. later today or tomorrow. Need feet for
>bottom of the boxes too but probably large stick-on rubber feet should be
okay.
>
>I've got two old non-HP fixed frequency monitors I'll drag out of the
>garage and try after I get a k'bd. The video interface card is a 98547A
>which is not mentioned in the Periph. Inst. Guide.
>
>I saw a few DEC items: A rather lonely RL02 standing amongst a bunch of
>fairly new amateur gear; a VT320 and VT 420 with a few of DEC's serial
>cables; a couple of AUI-to-BNC translator modules for $10 each (Too much?
>Just right?) and little else that I could see.
>
>Bought a couple more Ethernet NICs for $10 new (Intel 8/16); 3.5-to-5.25"
>floppy adaptors for $1 each; 25' CAT5 cables for $3 each; "The Hard Disk
>Technical Guide", "The Modem Tech. Guide", and "The Network Tech. Guide"
>all w/CDROMs, published by Micro House, for $5 each; misc. cables and bits.
>Hard disks were even cheaper than I'd ever seen but had no extra bucks to
>spend, dang it.
>
>Also saw a pallet full (4' x 4' x 5' high) of Sun SPARC LX boxen; a Grid
>computer, don't know exact model as I don't know Grids, but I'd wager it
>was early. No model # on bottom or back. It weighed a ton it seemed,
>painted black. Guy wanted $30 but by then I was flat broke by then :( ;
>lots of C64 and C128 machines and accessories; tons of PeeCee stuff of all
>ages and condx; pallets full of printers and monitors; lots of IBM
>MicroChannel machines and boards; several HP Vectras; boxes of network
>stuff of varying conditions and types; boxes of shrinkwrapped software;
>bunches of other stuff I can't recall at the moment. Lots and lots of
>amateur radio gear of course.
>
>I wish I had more money to spend there dang it!
>
>Importantly, I did score a few really hard to find parts for the WWII
>BC-191F transmitter I'm trying to restore plus a few military connectors
>for some gear in the collection; also got a couple of test equipment
>manuals for units I have in the collection. Still wish I had more $$$ so I
>could get more old gear and parts! Dang.
>
>Saw a couple of antique radio collector friends from other distant parts of
>the country; made contacts with a couple of folks who may have parts for
>the BC-191 and the virtually identical BC-375 transmitters. Understand from
>another email list (Greenkeys) that a couple of fellow teletype collectors
>were there too. Not much TTY gear to be found though :( May have bumped
>into one of you ClassicCmp folks but we wouldn't have known each other
>visually.
>
>All-in-all a very good time. Free shuttle buses running frequently all day
>every day between the several distant parking areas (we parked free at the
>Salem Mall) and that made it very convenient to haul a heavy object or
>several bag loads back to the car :)
>
>Something for everybody there. Rain held off on Fri and Sat was really
>beautiful. I may go again someday as my uncle lives in nearby Xenia, OH and
>I have basically free room and board :) Only 360 miles from home so I don't
>have too much of an excuse not to go especially if after I find a decent
>paying job and could have extra $$ to spend.
>
>Wonder what the attendance was this year? No motel rooms available within a
>75 mile or more radius. Columbus area was reported to be closest rooms.
>
>Incidentally, you locals may have noticed there's quite a different scene
>at Mendelson's Surplus in the past year or so. We went there to pickup a
>Hamvention ticket for myself and I was pleasantly surprised. New minor
>league baseball stadium being built across the street, an audio store just
>opened inside the main building, new parking lot in back of the church, a
>new Mendelson's outlet store next door across the new parking lot. But it
>apparently still has the good ol' 3rd floor full of all kinds of parts,
>equipment and untold amounts of obscure goodies! :-)
>
>Yes indeed, next year :)
>
>Regards, Chris
>-- --
>Christian Fandt, Electronic/Electrical Historian
>Jamestown, NY USA cfandt(a)netsync.net
>Member of Antique Wireless Association
> URL: http://www.ggw.org/awa
>
>
Kenneth L. Marshall
Research Engineer, Optical Materials
Laboratory for Laser Energetics
University of Rochester
250 East River Road
Rochester, NY 14623
Phone:(716)-275-8247
Fax: (716)-275-5960
Doug Spence wrote:
> Does anyone have the program "RACE" from Cursor #2?
About a year ago, I transfered the first 15 or so CURSOR
tapes to Commodore disk for Larry Anderson to put up on
his BBS. I did it in a hurry and didn't keep a copy of
the disks. You can ask him for a copy or I can try to
"dig" the box of CURSOR tape out of which ever pile it
wound up in. If I can find the tape, I can transfer it to
the pc on the little C64 dev station I set up at work.
Let me know.
Doug Spence wrote:
>I need some information about the Commodore cassette storage format.
>....snip.....
>In the data portions, it appears as if every 20th wave is special
About a year and a half ago, I took my shot at converting wave files.
Unfortunately I had to move on to other projects just as I was making
progress.
First, IMHO if you are sampling at less than 44.1, you are making
things too hard on yourself.
I did find the format of the header in a book and now I can't remember
which book it was, but I'm fairly certain it was a PET book.
I started with a test program consisting of:
10 REM ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ
Then I wrote a C program to measure pulses from "bottom to bottom".
Analyzing the data, I choose 15 samples as the difference between
small pulse and a large one. 15 or less was small and 16 or greater
was a large.
> with maximum amplitude and a smaller frequency.
Yes, this is a sync bit at the start of ever byte. Watching for this
will tell you when the data begins.
Below I have copied the begining of the last test output I ran.
First there is a row of pulse lengths (in samples)
(20 17 17 14 14 17 14 17 17 12 14 17 13 16 13 16 16 14 13 17)
Then there is a row where zero is a "small pulse", 1 is a "large" pulse.
( 1 1 1 0 0 1 0 1 1 0 0 1 0 1 0 1 1 0 0 1 )
With that information, I determine the byte like this:
* the first two pulses are 1 and 1 - this is the sync bit.
* the next two pulses are the low order bit
* a 1 followed by a 0 is a 1
* a 0 followed by a 1 is a 0
* and the last two pulses is the parity bit
So in the first line of data:
1 1 1 0 0 1 0 1 1 0 0 1 0 1 0 1 1 0 0 1
represents hex 89.
This is just a small portion of the output file. It shows the header
up to and including the filename (TEST1).
If you want, I can sent you the rest of this file off list.
;
; Cassette Tape Analysis of c6444812.wav Created 09/11/97
;
Silence............for 0x0024F2 bytes
at byte count 0x000024F3
Reading leader.......
Silence............for 0x001C77 bytes
at byte count 0x00004296
Reading leader.......
Leader = 27136
Reading data.......
20 17 17 14 14 17 14 17 17 12 14 17 13 16 13 16 16 14 13 17
1 1 1 0 0 1 0 1 1 0 0 1 0 1 0 1 1 0 0 1
89
20 16 14 17 14 17 14 17 16 13 13 17 13 16 13 16 16 13 16 14
1 1 0 1 0 1 0 1 1 0 0 1 0 1 0 1 1 0 1 0
88
20 16 17 14 17 14 16 13 13 16 13 16 13 16 13 16 16 14 17 14
1 1 1 0 1 0 1 0 0 1 0 1 0 1 0 1 1 0 1 0
87
20 16 13 17 17 13 16 13 13 15 13 16 13 16 13 16 16 13 13 17
1 1 0 1 1 0 1 0 0 1 0 1 0 1 0 1 1 0 0 1
86
20 16 17 14 14 17 17 13 12 16 13 16 13 16 13 16 17 13 13 17
1 1 1 0 0 1 1 0 0 1 0 1 0 1 0 1 1 0 0 1
85
20 16 14 17 13 16 17 13 13 16 14 16 13 16 13 16 16 14 17 14
1 1 0 1 0 1 1 0 0 1 0 1 0 1 0 1 1 0 1 0
84
19 17 17 14 16 14 13 16 13 16 14 16 13 16 13 17 16 13 13 17
1 1 1 0 1 0 0 1 0 1 0 1 0 1 0 1 1 0 0 1
83
20 16 14 17 17 13 13 17 14 16 13 16 13 16 14 17 17 14 16 13
1 1 0 1 1 0 0 1 0 1 0 1 0 1 0 1 1 0 1 0
82
19 16 17 14 13 16 14 16 14 16 13 17 13 16 13 17 16 13 16 14
1 1 1 0 0 1 0 1 0 1 0 1 0 1 0 1 1 0 1 0
81
19 17 17 13 13 17 14 17 13 16 13 16 13 16 13 16 13 16 13 16
1 1 1 0 0 1 0 1 0 1 0 1 0 1 0 1 0 1 0 1
01
20 17 17 14 14 17 14 17 14 16 13 16 13 16 13 16 13 16 13 16
1 1 1 0 0 1 0 1 0 1 0 1 0 1 0 1 0 1 0 1
01
20 17 14 17 15 17 14 17 16 13 13 16 13 16 13 16 13 16 13 16
1 1 0 1 0 1 0 1 1 0 0 1 0 1 0 1 0 1 0 1
08
20 16 17 15 17 13 13 16 13 16 13 16 16 13 13 16 13 16 13 16
1 1 1 0 1 0 0 1 0 1 0 1 1 0 0 1 0 1 0 1
23 #
20 16 14 17 14 16 13 16 17 13 13 16 14 16 13 16 13 16 13 16
1 1 0 1 0 1 0 1 1 0 0 1 0 1 0 1 0 1 0 1
08
19 16 14 17 14 17 17 13 13 16 16 13 13 16 17 14 13 17 14 16
1 1 0 1 0 1 1 0 0 1 1 0 0 1 1 0 0 1 0 1
54 T
19 16 17 15 13 17 16 13 13 16 13 16 13 16 16 14 13 17 14 17
1 1 1 1 0 1 1 0 0 1 0 1 0 1 1 0 0 1 0 1
45 E
20 17 17 14 17 14 13 17 13 17 16 13 13 16 16 13 13 17 17 14
1 1 1 0 1 0 0 1 0 1 1 0 0 1 1 0 0 1 1 0
53 S
20 16 14 17 14 16 17 13 13 17 16 13 13 16 16 14 13 17 13 16
1 1 0 1 0 1 1 0 0 1 1 0 0 1 1 0 0 1 0 1
54 T
19 16 17 14 13 17 14 16 13 16 16 13 17 14 14 16 13 16 13 16
1 1 1 0 0 1 0 1 0 1 1 0 1 0 0 1 0 1 0 1
31 1
19 16 14 17 15 17 13 16 13 16 13 16 16 13 13 16 14 17 14 17
1 1 0 1 0 1 0 1 0 1 0 1 1 0 0 1 0 1 0 1
20
I hope this helps,
--Doug
====================================================
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Sr. Software Eng. mranalog(a)home.com (home)
Press Start Inc. http://www.pressstart.com
Sunnyvale,CA
Curator
Museum of Personal Computing Machinery
http://www.best.com/~dcoward/museum/
and the new
Analog Computer Museum and History Center
http://www.best.com/~dcoward/analog
====================================================
In a message dated 5/17/99 3:30:51 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
rigdonj(a)intellistar.net writes:
> I picked up a pair of Intel extender cards in my travels and I'm
> wondering if anyone knows what they might be for. They have two sets of
> contacts with 80 contacts in each (40 per side per set). The contacts in
> each set have 1/10" spacing. No, they're not Multibus :-(
I suspect they are Multibus II. They look similar to VME cards. My books are
still at the whse. I will check when I get down there tonight.
Paxton
The only XT I still have is one based on an 80186, which I've used to
develop code for the '186. The XT was, for the most part, hampered by the
presence of all the PC hardware. With the '186, you could make the internal
peripherals go away and reappear at a location not addressed by the PC
hardware, though there were sometimes ambiguities which fouled things up.
Dick
-----Original Message-----
From: allisonp(a)world.std.com <allisonp(a)world.std.com>
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
Date: Tuesday, May 18, 1999 9:27 AM
Subject: Re: Are IBM PCs classic?
>> To provide a counterpoint to that, there were so many PCs and PC clones,
>> that collecting them would be more tantamount to collecting matchbox cars
>
>While I don't specifically collect PCs I do have a few I'm holding as
>they are interesting or unique. The key being yes they are clones but
>they are in some waus more desireable than the IBMs or the lesser popular.
>
>For example a leading edge model D XT clone, smaller and has videomono
>and color), serial, printer and floppy on the MB. Yet it has many slots
>for add ins and is quite compact.
>
>Another is a Kaypro xt that has a passive mother. The whole system
>floppy, video, cpu ram are on two ISA-8 cards! Very different.
>
>The last of the oldies is the PS2/50z, MCA and a really better 286 than
>some.
>
>There are many like the DTK machines I just junk as they were common turbo
>XTs that had no redeming features.
>
>Allison
>
I certainly have the same mindset that PC's aren't worthy of being "classic"
in the sense that a PDP-8 or HP2108A is.... at first blush....
But thinking about it more, it would seem to me that like quantum mechanics,
it depends on the time and act of the observation. Specifically, we might
not be so quick to dismiss the PC architecture if we were currently in the
year 2100 (that was just a random choice of year, nothing to do with HP's
<grin>).
To provide a counterpoint to that, there were so many PCs and PC clones,
that collecting them would be more tantamount to collecting matchbox cars
than collecting real cars (which I liken to collecting mini's). They're much
easier to comeby right now, so one would collect for color and variety for
example rather than each item depicting a phase of computing history. While
I understand and agree with others idea that PC's are "not as historically
significant except as a whole", I think it is - no less - a valid item to
collect.
BTW - I'm referring to PC architecture machines, not S100, or even PET type
machines.
Just my .00002 cents worth.
Cheers!
Jay West
SMS was the maker of a number of 8X300-based FDC's. These were about 10x12"
things with loads of TTL, normally bounted in a 17x18x15" (wxlxh) cast
aluminum-framed case with a clipped-on aluminum shell, often painted
off-white or beige, in which there were two 8" drives. The boards had
numbers like FDC300 or FT400, and were interfaced via a req/ack handshake
and 8-bit data on a 50-conductor cable. The models (300 & 400) with which
I'm familiar, were single-sided, but the FDC of the 400 supported
double-density. The interface protococ was at the sector or track level,
i.e. it was simple and based on commands like "read the next sector" or
format the next track, with much less fiddling than with the WD or NEC
FDC's. Their HDC's worked more or less like the bridge controllers from
other vendors.
SMS was the original developer of the 8X300 microcontroller, produced for
them by Signetics. They later produced FDC's and HDC's under the name OMTI.
I may still have doc's for the ones I had, though I remember at least one of
the manuals got a mite wet some time back.
Dick
-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Ford <mikeford(a)netwiz.net>
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
Date: Tuesday, May 18, 1999 7:21 AM
Subject: Scientific Micro Systems
>In my scrap yard looking I came across a batch of circuit boards near some
>old 8" floppy drives (Shugart, Qume, etc. and all bad I think, or
>troublesome) and I am wondering if they mean anything to anybody. They are
>large, maybe 11x17 or more, and the name on them is Scientific Micro
>Systems. The only connector I remember is a about a 4" wide edge connector
>on one end of the board in the middle.
>
>
I can understand why people go ahead and "toss" things as opposed to going
to the trouble to pack and ship them.
Whereas I seldom object to giving someone who will use it an item in my
storage heap, I have had qualms, at times, about people who wanted
"everything" when I knew up front that it would just go from my dead storage
area to theirs. I never worried so much about what happened to the puppies
I sold. I guess I figured that people willing to pay for something would
care for it and put it to use. What a silly notion!
When I made public what I had here, I got lots of requests for essentially
"all the good stuff" if there is such a designation, and at the end of the
day, so to speak, only one fellow sent funds to cover shipping. I sent him
the two boards he requested, and, as far as I'm concerned, he still has
credit with me for another USPS priority mail shipment of <2 lbs. Of course
shipping boards or diskettes/manuals is pretty easy when compared with
shipping a 20" high by 30" deep metal box . . .
Dick
-----Original Message-----
From: Philip.Belben(a)pgen.com <Philip.Belben(a)pgen.com>
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
Date: Tuesday, May 18, 1999 7:50 AM
Subject: Re: Tossing
>
>
>>> Anyway, Macs are prety neat to stack (especialy the classic ones),
>>> and should form a neat wall (maybe for seperation between dining
>>> room and kitchen ?) or can be used as base for a desk etc.
>>>
>>> (I just havn't enough to proove it)
>>
>> I've tested this hypothesis in the lab and have concluded that they do
not
>> stack well. They are angled slightly at the top. With enough Macs you
>> could build a suspension bridge, but I wouldn't drive a car over it.
>
>
>Suspension bridge? I take it you mean an arch bridge...
>
>The way to build a wall is to stack them not all the same way round. The
most
>stable method is probably LRRLLRRLL..., but LRLRLR would probably work (L
and R
>meaning Macs facing Left and Right respectively)
>
>Philip.
>
>
>
>
>
At 12:51 AM 5/18/99 -0700, you wrote:
>On Mon, 17 May 1999, James Willing wrote:
>
>> >> work where it would fail before. The clicking sound it makes is
>> >> pretty loud and annoying and I'm sure a LLF won't help that. Does
>>
>> It's quite possible that the problem may be little more than bit-rot due to
>> the degredation of the magnetic domains on the drive platters. (or it
>> really could be busted, but let's think good thots here) Also, power
>> failures during writes could honk up the drive real easily...
>
>Naw, he says its clicking. I think its internal mechanical failure.
...or dust in the track 0 optical sensor... (externally mounted, easy to
get to)
-jim
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At 01:16 AM 5/18/99 -0700, Sellam Ismail wrote:
>He's trying.
For me, one of the most delightful parts of running a small software
business was reading the unsolicited letters. I kept a file folder
of them. One of my favorites was from another East Bloc country that
started out in clear English, slowly began to struggle, and then
finally gave up and switched to their mother tongue.
For a while, every few weeks we'd get a letter from Mosul, Iraq,
each more creative than the last. Some were written in crayon, some
pencil, some on paper with inch-tall lines, some block-printed with
a rubber-stamp kit. Eventually, I guessed it was a young kid who'd
regularly raid his dad's supply of stamps and envelopes.
- John
>>>It means that the "dealer" has an item X in their inventory, they see that
>>someone else on Ebay is selling an equivalent X. The dealer follows the
>>auction to completion, when complete, the dealer sends email to the second
>>highest bidder and asks if they would like to purchase the item from them
>>for the price they offered the seller.
>>
>>This is a scam? Give it a break guys. If I bid on something and am not the
>>high bidder I would like a chance to buy. If you don't then don't reply.
>>Sometimes you can get in a bidding war and end up pay many times the value
>>of an item, I.E. Imsai or Altec on Ebay, Is it really that different than
>>making an offer here to someone who has something you want? So who looses if
>>a seller contacts you and you agree on a fair price? Ebay? Time to face the
>>facts Ebay, Yahoo, etc., etc. auctions are going to stay a while.
>
> The above was an explanation of the legitimate practice. The abuse is where
> a third party pretends to be the seller, contacts the second etc. bidders
> and requests payment be sent to a blind PO Box, then skips with the funds
> never sending any goods.
>
> BTW I just sent an inquiry to eBay to see if this is rumor, hoax, or fact.
Oh. I got the impression that it was the highest bidder doing this, i.e.
outbidding the legitimate bidders; then selling his stuff to the failed bidders;
and only then backing down on the original sale. Very nasty, because the
original vendor can't sell to the failed bidders until he has definitely heard
that the winner is backing down...
At a genuine auction in the UK, the auctioneer has the legal power to sign a
contract of purchase on behalf of either party. So backing down is very, very
difficult. But this sort of safeguard has yet to reach Ebay, I suppose.
Philip.
>> Geez! And my wife complains about my two Altairs and the Tektronix 4051
>> sitting in the living room!!
>>
>> Joe
>
> Very well, since you're twisting my arm Joe... I'll take the two Altairs
> off your hands.. You'll have to find someone else to take the Tektronix
> (I think I have one of those, minus the monitor, that i'm using as
> a TV stand. I used to use it for a computer desk.. Nice adjustable
> keyboard tray, now i put my VCR on that tray..)
I think you may have lost your 4051! It was a self contained unit with
keyboard, monitor, processor all in one box. If you're using it as a TV stand
you may have lost the 4051 and just kept the pedestal...
(Seriously, I think you're confusing it with a more modern piece of Tek kit)
Philip.
>> Proposal for copying really OLD documents (I get a royalty if someone
>> does this and it works!)
>>
>> 1) Develop a machine that performs a CAT scan of the document
>> without opening it at very high resolution.
>>
>> 2) process the high resolution 3D images captured to determine
>> the ink patterns on each page.
>>
>> 3) OCR the individual pages to recreate the original text
>>
>> Simple, Right?
>>
>> clint
>
> Hi
> Most documents can be opened to about 90 degrees. What does
> them in is flattening them on a copier. One could build a
> lens assembly that would go on top of the copier that would
> allow one to place the original on top with only a 90 degree
> bend. The size of the optics is the main issue here.
I saw a photocopier demonstrated on TV well over 10 years ago which copied books
without opening them more than about 80 degrees. I seem to recall it was the
British Library who were sponsoring the development, but I may be confusing this
with something else.
Philip.
--- Lawrence Walker <lwalker(a)mail.interlog.com> wrote:
> On 17 May 99 at 17:10, Chuck McManis wrote:
> > I recall the folks who have collected PETs and C64s that are pretty common
> > and "worthless" these days (I saw a new Vic20 in box at the Hamvention that
> > they couldn't _give_ away.)
>
> Well had you picked it up you could have made a bit of money. Check what
> they're going for on E-Pay...
I don't know if I got _that_ VIC-20, but I did get _a_ VIC-20 in the box
for $2. I also got a C2N tape drive, new in the box for $1.
I'm doing pretty well... the last VIC-20 I bought was $4. I don't think I
can keep up the progression through too many more iterations, though. ;-)
-ethan
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In a message dated 99-05-17 21:33:51 EDT, you write:
> I've received a ProFILE interface for my Apple II but the spare 5
> meg (at least I think it's 5 meg) ProFILE drive I had seems to have
> died. Does anyone have a spare one available? Maybe someone
> out in the hardware rich west coast? Or can anyone repair one? It
> makes a clicking noise as it spins up and keeps clicking as the
> drive is spinning. Sometime ProDOS can access the drive but
> most of the time it just returns an error. Any help?
well, if the drive can be accessed somewhat, then it's not a catastrophic
failure; maybe a LLF will do it? I've heard that only a lisa and maybe an
apple /// are the only computers that can LLF a profile. can anyone verify?
On Mon, 17 May 1999, Ethan Dicks wrote:
> --- Don Maslin <donm(a)cts.com> wrote:
> >
> Some, perhaps. I'm not rife with CP/M, so I'm interested...
>
> > 5 KAYPRO CP/M
>
> If these are copies of CP/M for the Kaypro (2.2), I'm interested in two,
> one for me and one for another Kaypro owner here in town.
They are basically Kaypro reprints of the DRI manuals for CP/M.
> > 1 KAYPRO II USERS GUIDE
>
> I'd like this, too.
Sorry, taken.
> > 3 KAYPRO USERS GUIDE
>
> What model?
Ditto. (II and 4 '83, actually)
- don
I've received a ProFILE interface for my Apple II but the spare 5
meg (at least I think it's 5 meg) ProFILE drive I had seems to have
died. Does anyone have a spare one available? Maybe someone
out in the hardware rich west coast? Or can anyone repair one? It
makes a clicking noise as it spins up and keeps clicking as the
drive is spinning. Sometime ProDOS can access the drive but
most of the time it just returns an error. Any help?
Thanks.
-----
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dlw(a)trailingedge.com
http://www.trailingedge.com
I have one used (What other kind could there be?) pdp 11/34 CPU and an RL 02
drive. It seems lonely sitting in my garage but I can't bring myself to send
it to the local metal recycler. The system was fully operational when
replaced by a "Stratus" system. It was operating as some kind of message
switch.
I also have a rack of "Data Comm General" 1200-9600 modems for dedicated
lines.
Any interest in these fine specimens?
Dave
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--- Don Maslin <donm(a)cts.com> wrote:
>
> I know that the general level of interest in things Kaypro is low amongst
> the members of this list;
Some, perhaps. I'm not rife with CP/M, so I'm interested...
> 5 KAYPRO CP/M
If these are copies of CP/M for the Kaypro (2.2), I'm interested in two,
one for me and one for another Kaypro owner here in town.
> 1 KAYPRO II USERS GUIDE
I'd like this, too.
> 3 KAYPRO USERS GUIDE
What model?
I'm in Columbus, OH (43201).
Thanks,
-ethan
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I saw your thread...I am also having problems ordering a new drum...the
green thing in the front of the machine that has toner all around
it....My pages come out white....and I do not think I need toner but
rather a new drum.....and I like this printer....but when I call compaq
they do not know what the hell I am talking about...
michael
I know that the general level of interest in things Kaypro is low amongst
the members of this list; however, I am offering first crack at the items
on the following list to the members. I will be posting it to comp.os.cpm
on Wednesday or Thursday, but in the meantime it is for classiccmp alone.
- don
===============
The KAYPRO manuals listed below are available free for the asking,
first come first served, however, you must pay shipping costs.
Unless otherwise requested, they will be sent via USPS at Book
Rate.
E-mail your requests, please.
Qty Title
5 CALCSTAR USERS MANUAL
5 DATASTAR REFERENCE MANUAL
3 DATASTAR TRAINING GUIDE
5 REPORTSTAR USER REFERENCE MANUAL
3 REPORTSTAR TRAINING GUIDE
1 WORDSTAR TRAINING GUIDE
1 WORDSTAR PROFESSIONAL (Users Manual)
1 MAILMERGE REFERENCE GUIDE
1 SUPERTERM (Communications)
5 KAYPRO CP/M
1 KAYPRO II USERS GUIDE
3 KAYPRO USERS GUIDE
1 KAYPRO 10 USERS GUIDE
3 INTRODUCTION TO SOFTWARE
4 MICROPLAN
1 CBASIC REFERENCE MANUAL
4 MICROSOFT BASIC USERS GUIDE
3 MICROSOFT BASIC QUICK REFERENCE
5 SBASIC
4 MSDOS OPERATING SYSTEM USERS GUIDE
2 PROFITPLAN
4 THE WORD Plus (Spell Checker)
1 PERFECT CALC USERS GUIDE
1 WRITING WITH A WORD PROCESSOR by William Zinsser
2 WORD PROCESSING ON THE KAYPRO by Peter McWilliams
1 KAYPRO WORD PROCESSING PLAIN & SIMPLE by David Lenfest
& William Houze
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<I saw your thread...I am also having problems ordering a new drum...the
<green thing in the front of the machine that has toner all around
<it....My pages come out white....and I do not think I need toner but
<rather a new drum.....and I like this printer....but when I call compaq
<they do not know what the hell I am talking about...
What printer is it?
it sounds like the declaser series and it's possible the HV are down or the
drum is dead.
Allison
Hi all,
I picked up a pair of Intel extender cards in my travels and I'm
wondering if anyone knows what they might be for. They have two sets of
contacts with 80 contacts in each (40 per side per set). The contacts in
each set have 1/10" spacing. No, they're not MultiBus :-( They have long
guides built onto them to support the card being tested. Any ideas?
Joe
