Hi folks,
I'm passing this on for a friend who is not a computer collector or
subscriber to ClassicCmp.
His long-serving Mac used in his realty office had to be retired because of
some sort of video failure. He didn't want to trash it and asked me if I'd
take it. I'm not into Apple at all as that would be Yet Another Interest
which I would dig into thus spending all kinds of money and time which I
have little of either. Some of you know already that I've got enough to
handle now ;)
So, I want to let you Apple polishers (or "Mac-adamia Nuts" ;-) have a
chance at taking the system. The problem with the main box is probably
simple to fix using parts from another dead box. He says there is just a
spot on the screen about a quarter inch or so in size. The system seems to
act normally otherwise, just that he can't see anything on the screen.
Apparently to me, just the video sweep section on the CRT board failed.
Please contact him directly at esr(a)netsync.net if interested in the system.
Paul Liuzzo is his name.
Here's the list of items with the understanding that I do not know if I've
given you enough info as I don't do Mac:
** Macintosh Plus (and says 'Macintosh Plus 1MB' on the large label on the
back of the case), model M0001A. Apparently runs System 6.0.2.
** Kingston cooling fan/power switching module. Fits on top of the box to
provide additional cooling and acts as AC power control center.
** Keyboard, model M0110A
** Mouse, model M0100
** External hard drive (he recalls 40mb), CMS Enhancements (the
Computerland label for accessories they sold) model STACK/3
** Apple Personal Modem, model A9M0304
** Two Apple Imagewriter II's
1.) model A9M0320 bought w/system above
2.) model A9M0310 given to him a couple years ago and never used by
him. It's been used by previous owner though.
Software included:
** Mac Utilities, etc., for ver 6.0.2
** Filemaker Pro
** Filemaker II
** Superspool for Imagewriter
** Semantic Antivirus for Mac ver 2
** CMS SCSI Utility for Mac ver 5.3
** more misc software
** A stack of documentation for most of the s/w listed above.
He doesn't want much except to have a collector take the system, all in one
lot. I imagine paying shipping costs plus maybe a couple extra bucks would
be okay.
Again, contact Paul Liuzzo directly at esr(a)netsync.net if interested in the
system.
Jamestown, NY 14701 is the shipping point.
Thanks much!
Regards, Chris
-- --
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Jamestown, NY USA cfandt(a)netsync.net
Member of Antique Wireless Association
URL: http://www.ggw.org/awa
The CD ROM no longer spins up to read the disk.
The CD that I am using is Windows 3.0 with Multimedia Extensions 1.0. I
used it previously to install Windows on my 5170.
///--->>>
-Jason Willgruber
(roblwill(a)usaor.net)
ICQ#: 1730318
<http://members.tripod.com/general_1>
-----Original Message-----
From: John Foust <jfoust(a)threedee.com>
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
Date: Tuesday, May 25, 1999 7:45 AM
Subject: Re: DatEXT CD-ROM questions
>At 06:15 PM 5/24/99 -0700, Jason (the General) wrote:
>>The unit was working fine when I powered it down and moved the computer
>>across my basement a few months ago. When I powered it up today, the
CD-ROM
>>driver will load, but it won't read any disks.
>
>Have you tried to read a *contemporary* CD, or a CD that you know
>is in pure old-style ISO-9660 CD format? Some of the newer extensions
>could be throwing the driver for a loop.
>
>- John
>
>
I have a (miraculously) surviving (sort of) 1986 DatEXT external CD-ROM on
my IBM 5170 AT.
The unit was working fine when I powered it down and moved the computer
across my basement a few months ago. When I powered it up today, the CD-ROM
driver will load, but it won't read any disks.
I took it apart to see if the drive was spinning up, and the first thing I
noticed was that the little plastic labels covering the window on a couple
of the EPROMs (or is it EEPROMS?) were peeling off (no longer sticky after
13 years). I'm guessing that this is the problem.
Does anyone know where to get EPROM images for this drive, and how would I
upload them to the chips? I'm assuming that I would need an EPROM burner.
Where would I find one?
ThAnX,
///--->>>
-Jason Willgruber
(roblwill(a)usaor.net)
ICQ#: 1730318
<http://members.tripod.com/general_1>
In a message dated 5/25/99 8:53:34 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
rickb(a)pail.enginet.com writes:
>
> I seem to remember, but not completely sure, that the CPU was essentially
> an ECL implementation of a 68000...a comparatively very fast 68000.
>
The DSP 90 used the 68020 CPU card that was used in the 5XX series of
workstations. It also contained the Apollo Ring network card to hook up to
the network. It may or may not have an extra memory card. It did not have the
display card as it was a rack mount server. It also had a Multibus 1 cardcage
which held a SMD controller, a tape drive controller or any other Multibus
card to drive interface one wanted to hang on the ring. It commonly had CDC
9" hard drives but you could use 8" or 14" SMD drives. Apollo also hung
Cipher tape drives on it also. You could put removable pack drives also.
It was used as a Server on an Apollo Ring. It did data and program storage
mainly. If someone was going to set up an Apollo Ring for a museum it would
be great. As to what Jim could use it for I'm not sure. Prob. trading
material as I am not sure the Computer Garage has the space for an Apollo
exhibit.
If someone is interested in Apollo I have a working 580 system that I would
like to sell or pass on.
Paxton
Hi!
I saw this on our company bulletin board. A step in the right direction, but
what happened to mending things?
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So... proving yet again that I just can't turn away a computer in need of a
home, I find myself looking at an Apollo Computers DSP90-3M computer with
an SMDE drive that is supposed to have the Apollo operating system on it.
(I was just expecting drives!)
I've got absolutely no background in Apollo gear, so I've got equally no
idea what it is that I'm looking at!
Anyone care to offer any insights? And... anyone care to offer it a home???
(I'm just NOT sure I'm ready to branch down the Apollo line...)
---
Parallel but random thot... In loading this latest group of items into the
'Garage', and having recently crawled thru the warehouse trying to find
something...
I'm strongly thinking of staging an 'archeological dig' and equipment
redistribution following the CP/M User's Group swap meet here in a couple
of weeks... If there is sufficient interest!
And perhaps even a tour thru the 'Garage' for those with even more of an
'Indiana Jones' bent...
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On May 24, 23:39, Tony Duell wrote:
> The other 'nasty' is machines that will only take a limited number of
> hard disk types (geometries). Sometimes only 2 or 3 drives are supported,
> and you can bet that they'll either be almost impossible to find a drive
> with all parameters in excess of the ones needed, or it will actually
> verify that the drive has the specified geometry (e.g. checking that a '6
> head' drive doesn't work when heads >5 are selected).
Tell me about it :-(
> Getting the right
> spare drive for one of those can really drive you insane.
How do you think I got to be like this? :-)
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Dept. of Computer Science
University of York
<Several days? That's pretty quick.... I've spent months looking for
<working ST506-interfaced drives in the past....
You don't want to know how many ST506s, ST412s, St225s and D540s I have
around here doing not much. And they are all good!
<The other 'nasty' is machines that will only take a limited number of
<hard disk types (geometries). Sometimes only 2 or 3 drives are supported,
<and you can bet that they'll either be almost impossible to find a drive
<with all parameters in excess of the ones needed, or it will actually
<verify that the drive has the specified geometry (e.g. checking that a '6
<head' drive doesn't work when heads >5 are selected). Getting the right
<spare drive for one of those can really drive you insane.
And you have to know that little detail beforhand. Then there is the
matter of formatting as some can't (require the disk to be formatted else
where) and some require special software if they can.
Allison
<
<-tony
<
Hey, are these Apollos the ones with the *GIANT* SMD disk units?
The ones I saw were *HUGE* 9" CDC's that had been refurbed by
Seagate! They were mounted in a big tray (kinda like a SABRE,
but bigger), with a powersupply, and some controller electronix.
This whole mess was about a foot square, by maybe 2 feet deep.
DOes that sound like it?
On Mon, 24 May 1999 23:00:55 -0400 (EDT) "R. Stricklin (kjaeros)"
<red(a)bears.org> writes:
>On Mon, 24 May 1999, James Willing wrote:
>
>> Anyone care to offer any insights? And... anyone care to offer it a
>home???
>> (I'm just NOT sure I'm ready to branch down the Apollo line...)
>
>I can offer insights, if you prod me with specific questions. Or
>alternately adopt it if it comes to that.
>
>> And perhaps even a tour thru the 'Garage' for those with even more
>of an
>> 'Indiana Jones' bent...
>
>I could be interested depending on scheduling...
>
>ok
>r.
>
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>c) On a related machine (I seem to remember Vaxstation 2000s can format
>drives for at least one of the standard Q-bus controllers).
Yes, the VS2000 format (and RCT table) is compatible with the RQDX3. You
can do the formatting on the RQDX3 as well, with the right diagnostics.
Of course, there are also machines with floppy drive systems that cannot do
a low-level format. The most classic 8" floppy drive systems (specifically,
the IBM 3740) can't format floppies, for example. There are also 5.25"
floppy drive systems that can't format - for example, the RX50 on a DEC
Q-bus or Unibus controller. (On some Rainbows, it is possible to low-level
format RX50 media directly.)
--
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Hi!
At the moment I’m rather an unhappy user of an old PS/2 laptop computer. Why
unhappy? I’m not able to boot it up, alltrough i tried everything, started
>from disassembling it to the smallest part to changing the 3,5” floppy disk
drive and so on. I would really appreciate any information or hint about
starting it up. O.k, these are the specs of the machine:
Machine: IBM PS/2 Model L40 SX
Proc.: i386DX @ 20 Mhz
RAM: 2 Mb on-board
(the two blue memory slots are still free)
HDD: 60 Mb (Conner, Model CP2067, no OS on it)
FDD: 3,5” 1.44 Mb
(Panasonic, Model JU-237A03W, P/N 72X6074) < !
The problem is that the FDD activity LED does not light up when the computer
is started, even when a disk is in the drive. Only the LCD symbol of the
3,5” disk drive on the computer panel goes on, but nothing happens. I never
had the chance to work on PS/2 computers and so I don’t know what to do now.
I’ve checked all connections and all cables. It seem like the FDD doesn’t
get any power input from the board, but i’m not sure. I think that the
problem is somewhere else. Later when the BIOS tries to boot up from the
hard disk, a message in Danish appears telling that the command interpreter
(COMMAND.COM) couldn’t be found … (The computer has a Danish BIOS on-board).
Please help me, I need help as soon as possible. Mail all hints and/or
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Hi,
MARTIN_O'MURPHY(a)NON-HP-UNITEDKINGDOM-OM1.OM.HP.COM writes:
> One of our UK HP 3000 customers has a
> Series 70 that they no longer need/want.
>
>This system is available free to the first genuine
>respondent who is prepared to collect/transport
>it away.
>If no-one responds in a reasonable period, the
>70 meets Mr. Sledgehammer(TM) ;-)
The HP 3000/70 is a stack-based CISC machine that runs MPE. No, it can't
run any version of Linux or anything else. It's about 6' wide, 4'high, 2' deep.
It dates back to about 1983 or so.
BTW, I thought I had the TM on "Mr. Sledgehammer", see:
http://www.allegro.com/sportster.html
Stan
They are. Two are optional BASIC and the other is optional Assembler.
Joe
At 10:49 PM 5/24/99 -0700, you wrote:
>These 24 pin chips sound to me like ROM's.
>
>William R. Buckley
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Joe <rigdonj(a)intellistar.net>
>To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
><classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
>Date: Monday, May 24, 1999 2:59 PM
>Subject: AIM 65 question
>
>
>>Hi,
>>
>> I picked up several AIM 65 computers. I've noticed that some of them
>>have two 24 Pin ICs in the lower right corner and some have five. Anyone
>>know what the difference is? Also some have only two of the 19 pin ICs in
>>the top right corner and other have eitht ICs there. What's the difference
>>there?
>>
>> Anyone know of a site where I can find out more about these and the
>>commands to operate them?
>>
>> Joe
>>
>
>
Hi Chuck and all
I've posted some pictures of the NCR core memory that I have
on http://ccii.dockside.co.za/~wrm/ccc/index.html. There's
also a picture of a PC network card (large thing with a Z80
on) that I'd like to identify.
Wouter
These 24 pin chips sound to me like ROM's.
William R. Buckley
-----Original Message-----
From: Joe <rigdonj(a)intellistar.net>
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
Date: Monday, May 24, 1999 2:59 PM
Subject: AIM 65 question
>Hi,
>
> I picked up several AIM 65 computers. I've noticed that some of them
>have two 24 Pin ICs in the lower right corner and some have five. Anyone
>know what the difference is? Also some have only two of the 19 pin ICs in
>the top right corner and other have eitht ICs there. What's the difference
>there?
>
> Anyone know of a site where I can find out more about these and the
>commands to operate them?
>
> Joe
>
Tim:
Thank you so much for this, and the earlier, message regarding
the RS11. I will look into my handbooks, though I must admit to
having only a few (like three) such manuals, and in them I have not
found descriptions of all the hardware that I have to date obtained.
William R. Buckley
-----Original Message-----
From: CLASSICCMP(a)trailing-edge.com <CLASSICCMP(a)trailing-edge.com>
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
Date: Monday, May 24, 1999 6:06 AM
Subject: Re: Strange DEC heavyweight.
>>How big (storage capacity) might this device provide.
>
>512 kbytes for the RS03, 1024 kbytes for the RS04.
>
>>As for a picture, I shall look into providing same to the newsgroup.
>>I do not have a web page, so some other mechanism of image
>>distribution will be required.
>
>Doesn't everyone here have a mid-70's PDP11 Peripheral Handbook? They've
>all got a picture of the RS series drives (and RM, and RP, and RK, and
>RX, and ...)
>
>--
> Tim Shoppa Email: shoppa(a)trailing-edge.com
> Trailing Edge Technology WWW: http://www.trailing-edge.com/
> 7328 Bradley Blvd Voice: 301-767-5917
> Bethesda, MD, USA 20817 Fax: 301-767-5927
I believe _Some_ of the Tandy 1000's were like this. My TX originally had
some *unknown* brand HardCard with a MicroScience 3.5" MFM drive. The drive
always worked good (made a neat "chunking" noise instead of chirping), until
the spindle motor died (or something died). It wasn't frozen - it just
wouldn't go. It also had a "ready" and "access" light (red and green). I
ended up replacing it with a WD HardCard, which is about 50% slower than the
MicroScience.
Anyone have one of those old MicroScience drives that they want to get rid
of? My Tandy 1000 (no suffix) is yearning for its HardCard back :)
The model number of the drive was HH325.
ThAnX,
///--->>>
-Jason Willgruber
(roblwill(a)usaor.net)
ICQ#: 1730318
<http://members.tripod.com/general_1>
-----Original Message-----
From: Max Eskin <max82(a)surfree.com>
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
Date: Monday, May 24, 1999 6:55 PM
Subject: Re: Space, the next frontier
>On Mon, 24 May 1999, Allison J Parent wrote:
>>And you have to know that little detail beforhand. Then there is the
>>matter of formatting as some can't (require the disk to be formatted else
>>where) and some require special software if they can.
>
>Now, I've heard of this before, but I can't understand why anyone would
>want to do this. And, where is 'else where'?
>
>--Max Eskin (max82(a)surfree.com)
> http://scivault.hypermart.net: Ignorance is Impotence - Knowledge is
Power
>
>
I read somewhere that they work with the ST-506 interface, but certain
(newer) revisions won't work with the original 5MB ST-506.
I don't know why - I just know it won't work with the one that I have. I
think mine has a copyright date of 1989.
///--->>>
-Jason Willgruber
(roblwill(a)usaor.net)
ICQ#: 1730318
<http://members.tripod.com/general_1>
-----Original Message-----
From: Allison J Parent <allisonp(a)world.std.com>
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
Date: Monday, May 24, 1999 6:41 PM
Subject: Re: Re[2]: Space, the next frontier
><Talking about ST 506's, I have an old 5 MB one. It spins up, but I need
><controller for it. The only XT MFM controller I have is a WD XT-GEN, and
><they don't work with the 506's.
>
>???? they don't???? I thought they were commonly found with ST506s! At
>least that's the only one besides the ST412 (10mb) I've ever seen one with.
>
>Allison
>
>
From: Don Maslin <donm(a)cts.com>
To: classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu
Subject: (fwd) Xerox 820 FS/T/donate
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I'm tired of tripping over an old 820 w/ 2-8" FDD's & monitor. I also
have s/w, manuals, and a couple of main boards (one bare???).
Help me find a home for this! PLEASE!!!???
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On May 24, 17:38, Max Eskin wrote:
> Subject: Re: Space, the next frontier
> On Mon, 24 May 1999, Pete Turnbull wrote:
> >Having just spent several days obtaining a suitable 20MB ST506-interface
> >hard drive, I completely concur with Tony. The 3.5" versions seem to be
> >particularly hard to come by around here.
>
> There have been 3.5" ST-506 interface hard drives?
Yes, Seagate made quite a lot of them at one time. So did Teac, NEC and
WD. The first 3.5" ones were Rodimes, though. The hard drive system
sitting on the BBC Micro beside me has one: it's a home-designed system
which has an Adaptec ACB4000 controller (which is SCSI, but
SASI-compatible), and a BBC 1MHz Bus to SASI adapter, and presently has an
NEC 40MB 3.5" drive in it. Originally it had one of the first 10MB 3.5"
Rodime RO352 drives (which is now in a modified DEC TK50Z box, pretending
to be an RD51). I still have the receipts somewhere; I think the drive
cost about ?400 in the mid-80s.
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Dept. of Computer Science
University of York
Talking about ST 506's, I have an old 5 MB one. It spins up, but I need a
controller for it. The only XT MFM controller I have is a WD XT-GEN, and
they don't work with the 506's.
Anyone have a spare controller that they don't need? Preferably an old
IBM??
ThAnX,
///--->>>
-Jason Willgruber
(roblwill(a)usaor.net)
ICQ#: 1730318
<http://members.tripod.com/general_1>
-----Original Message-----
From: Dwight Elvey <elvey(a)hal.com>
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
Date: Monday, May 24, 1999 12:18 PM
Subject: Re[2]: Space, the next frontier
>ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk (Tony Duell) wrote:
>> And it's getting
>> ever harder to get working ST506 drives.
>
>Hi
> The biggest trouble with these drives is that the head
>stepper has a limit arm right where fools can get at
>it. Wipe the arm back and forth once, with the disk
>stationary, and you've made a nice groove in the surface.
>The other thing is on the braking of the spindle. Some
>used a mechanical brake but others used dynamic braking.
>The ones with dynamic braking are real sensitive to
>having the heads drag backwards because of rotational
>inertia. Both of these are handling issues. It does
>help to alway park the heads on the far end before
>moving the machine that has one of these drives. When
>removing, one should also tape a piece of cardboard over
>the steppers end so you don't bump the sector limit arm
>and move the heads sideways. Some also have spindle locks
>but be real careful to watch the rotational direction.
>Turn the spindle the same way that it normally runs, only.
> The reason these two things cause so much trouble is that
>the back side of the heads have a real sharp edge. It tends
>to dig into the disk like a carpenters plane.
> If your old setup doesn't have a head park routine, I
>would highly recommend that you write one. I recommend
>that you always park the heads every time before you power
>off. I have several 506's that are still running and
>have many hours on them.
>Dwight
>
>
I've read that DEC granted unrestricted reproduction rights to their old
documentation. I'd like to confirm this before I announce to the world the
URL where a PDF version of the PDT 11/150 mini maintenance manual can be
found. Any information regarding this topic would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Bill
<> Could be Futura.
<
<I can't remember now for sure, but I think I tried Futura (well, it's one
<of the obvious ones, so I'm sure I did) and found Helvetica a better match
The closest is Helvetica Bold Oblique(with the height to width ratios
altered), however the actual font is a sans serif monospaced block font.
I used to know what the acceptable substitute was. However most of the
fonts and their names postdate the DIGITAL logo font. A little tuning of
the metioned font passes real well.
If you can write Postscript and understand postscript fontmetrics it's a
easy hack to make 100% real looking DEC keys.
Allison
<>And you have to know that little detail beforhand. Then there is the
<>matter of formatting as some can't (require the disk to be formatted else
<>where) and some require special software if they can.
<
<Now, I've heard of this before, but I can't understand why anyone would
<want to do this. And, where is 'else where'?
Simple, the disk is factory supplied with the correct base formatting.
For example the average PDP-11 user or MicroVAX user cannot format the MFM
hard disks used in some subsystem without special formatting software that
is part of a diagnostic package. Or the case of the DEC 8" floppies
most of the systems (RX01/02) cannot format them at all. This has occured
elsewhere in the industry over the years. There are two cases for doing
this, your locked into sole sourced media (TU58 for example) or for lack of
capability incorperated into the hardware. Some cases like a few of the
removeable platter packs, the servo information required for head
positioning is done as a seperate manufacturing operation and cannot
easily be put in the drive.
Allison
On May 24, 15:05, Cameron Kaiser wrote:
> Subject: Re: FONT NAME question
> ::It's not very close to Arial. It's almost exactly standard Helvetica
Bold.
>
> Could be Futura.
I can't remember now for sure, but I think I tried Futura (well, it's one
of the obvious ones, so I'm sure I did) and found Helvetica a better match.
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Dept. of Computer Science
University of York
