Doug,
I just revived my GRiD 1530 (and it was a pain)... Tandy still sells parts
for these (not many and pricey too!)
I bought a new mother board (only to later find out that my old one just
lacked memory) and a technical reference manual (what a waste of money).
What are you trying to find out?
Arfon
At 07:59 PM 5/18/1999 -0400, you wrote:
>
>You guys and gals are probably getting tired of my little GRiD updates,
>but here goes anyway...
>
>I am typing this message on the GRiDCase. So the modem works. 2400bps.
>
>I found Rob's GRiDBoard website, and from there found out that AST keeps
>the configuration files for a lot of old GRiDs on its website.
>
>I downloaded conf1520.exe from there.
>
>Now I have my doubts about this machine even being a GRiDCase 1520. Most
>of the configuration options don't work or are meaningless to this
>particular machine. Like the thing to set the backlighting on the display
>- my machine has a gas plasma display. And it seems to be telling me that
>my machine doesn't have a modem... so what the heck am I using right now?
>
>It did let me configure my expansion RAM from EMS to XMS... or was that
>the other way around? And it let me change my processor speed. But it
>wouldn't let me do anything with the hard disk and a whole bunch of other
>weird things.
>
>It's a '286 machine, magnesium alloy case, 1.44MB floppy, had a 20MB HD in
>it, has a 2400bps internal modem, standard PC ports, gas plasma display,
>two ROM sockets under a trapdoor above the keyboard... could this thing
>be anything other than a 1520?
>
>Note that is says "GRiDCASE 1500 Series" above the display.
>
>Now I suppose it's time to see if I can have the machine work *without* a
>hard drive installed. I just got a _very_ scary message about JVC drives
>seizing and taking HD controllers with them. (Thanks for the warning,
>Jason!)
>
>Of course, as the drive that was in the machine when I got it was seized
>up, the damage may already be done. And maybe that's why I'm still unable
>to access the HD. :(
>
>--
>Doug Spence
>ds_spenc(a)alcor.concordia.ca
>http://alcor.concordia.ca/~ds_spenc/
>
>
>
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*I* don't think it is at all.
Apparently the SELLER thinks it's like an altair. I was complaining (read:
making fun of) the seller's silly choice of words. Probably because it has
switches and lights. Geez... I didn't know all machines with switches and
lights had the same architecture <grin>.
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-----Original Message-----
From: Tony Duell <ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk>
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
Date: Monday, June 07, 1999 4:00 PM
Subject: Re: **RARE** "Altair-like" HP1000 minicomputer K00L K00L Vintage!
<grin>
>>
>> Now that's the SECOND time I've seen someone list an HP1000 on Ebay
calling
>> it an "Altair-like HP1000".
>
>Can you please enlighten me as to how an HP1000 is like an Altair?
>
>-tony
>
>
Hi. In my last visit to a very nice junkyard (near Lisbon,
Portugal) I came across a box, a bit larger than a DECserver 300,
named DECmicroserver, having about 4 very large D connectors (3 rows
of pins) named "line 1" in the back. Anyone knows what it is? (I'm
really tempted to buy it).
Regards,
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Let's try to keep this in perspective, Sam. When there's a text file format
which will display the exploded view drawings in these service documents on
your (Apple ][, Commodore 64, Atari x00, TI 99/4a, TRS-80 Model x, Heathkit
Hx, OSI Challenger x, IMSAI 8080, Altair
>8800, etc) then you may have a valid point. For that matter, aside from
the last three on the list, there's not one likely to need this
documentation, nor is it likely that anyone unable to afford disk space
enough to hold a complete PDF file of one of these relatively short
documents when a 10GB disk drive costs less than $200, will be able to
afford one of the "antique" devices to which they apply.
Aside from all that, I'd speculate that there are more Windows users who die
every day than there are users of computer systems desiring but inherently
unable to view PDF files in the world. Having said that, however, I submit
that the majority should not dictate to the extent that the needs of the
minority are ignored. If you can come up with a format common to both
illustrations and text for the implementation of which a single and
easy-to-use tool set is in the hands of someone(s) willing to process this
set of documents within a reasonable time frame into an appropriately
formatted archive suitable to the yet-to-be-determined provider of web-site
space, it will receive appropriate consideration. Take solace in the fact
that I will not likely be among those making these choices. Since I have
the documents, my preference, at least with respect to them is not
particularly relevant.
Take a look at the "unofficial CP/M web site," whatever the URL is, and
you'll see the document files offered in several formats, though I'd
speculate that none of the systems you listed in your comments, "(Apple ][,
Commodore 64, Atari x00, TI 99/4a, TRS-80 Model x, Heathkit Hx, OSI
Challenger x, IMSAI 8080, Altair 8800, etc)" can view any of those files.
Perhaps you can offer a positive construct rather than simply wringing your
hands and being a naysayer.
Dick
-----Original Message-----
From: Sellam Ismail <dastar(a)ncal.verio.com>
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
Date: Sunday, June 06, 1999 10:40 PM
Subject: Re: Disk Drive Documents
>On Sun, 6 Jun 1999, Richard Erlacher wrote:
>
>> >Well, I definitely agree with Tony on this.
>>
>> On which point, Sam?
>
>On the point that the archive should be made accessible to as many people
>as possible, and that means using formats and data that just about anyone
>can read.
>
>> Well, I don't, and for the reason that lowest common denominator means
the
>> lowest efficiency for the most people. I want to make it easy and
>> accessible to as many people as possible. Based on statistics, that
means
>> that the only OS that really matters is . . . now say it along with me .
.
>
>Bullshit. There are more tools for viewing ASCII data than any other
>format under every OS. This includes tools that allow you to search and
>edit them. Just because most of the planet is stuck with a Microsoft OS
>doesn't mean that all those people can also use a PDF viewer. I'm on a
>Pentium 133 system and viewing PDF files is a pain in the ass.
>
>It is also the most efficient format in terms of taking up the least
>amount of storage space. I can download a textfile in a few seconds. I
>can even view it with my web browser, and search it. I can cut parts out
>and paste them elsewhere.
>
>Making a
>"public" archive in the sense that everyone should be able to view it
>means catering to the lowest common denominator.
>
>
>> I don't anticipate getting complete agreement from everyone. What has to
be
>> considered is (1) What do the owners of the data have to say? (2) What
are
>> the people willing to do the work willing to do? (3) Where are these
>> documents to be stored and presented to the public and how much space
will
>> they allow for this purpose? (4) What will satisfy the needs and
preferences
>> of MOST of the people having access to the documents? The weight
assigned
>> to the answers will probably be in about this order as well.
>
>What good is putting in all the effort when not many people will be able
>to benefit from that effort? Contrary to what you think, the PDF format
>is not that widespread. Sure there are viewers, and the format is
>documented, but how many people have that plug-in or the stand-alone on
>their computer? Now ask yourself, how many people have a text editor on
>their computer?
>
>> As far as I'm concerned, what's most important is that the documents be
>> stored as complete, separate, and single files. They should not be
broken
>> up into pages or chapters or text in one part and graphics in another in
the
>> stupid, Stupid, STUPID way much of the LINUX documentation is published.
>
>Not everyone with a Linux box has a SVGA monitor with gigabytes of hard
>drive space and oodles of RAM. The developers of the Linux documentation
>were smart enough to realize that. It allows you to get only what you
>need, and not end up with a bunch of dead data taking up precious space on
>your hard drive.
>
>> Further, while GIF format is probably OK for your vacation pictures or
the
>> latest centerfold, I don't find it particularly advantageous for
presenting
>> line-art drawings because common viewers don't have a standard
presentation
>> format for them. They come in a size matched to some raster image and if
>> your display matches it, great, else too bad. Again I prefer the PDF,
not
>> only because it is what most people can get and use for free, but because
it
>> is a single format useable in common for both text and graphics.
>
>I can't view a PDF file with my (Apple ][, Commodore 64, Atari x00, TI
>99/4a, TRS-80 Model x, Heathkit Hx, OSI Challenger x, IMSAI 8080, Altair
>8800, etc).
>
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>
> Hi. In my last visit to a very nice junkyard (near Lisbon,
>Portugal) I came across a box, a bit larger than a DECserver 300,
>named DECmicroserver, having about 4 very large D connectors (3 rows
>of pins) named "line 1" in the back. Anyone knows what it is? (I'm
>really tempted to buy it).
Those D connectors carry synchronous data to and from IBM SNA boxes.
I've seen these set up in medium-sized businesses that had both IBM
networked mainframes/minis and DEC minis that need to talk to each other.
There's a beefier version called the "DEC Channelserver" which, I've
always inferred from the name, hooks to the IBM Channel architecture.
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The "D" refers to the shape and the "B" refers to the shell-size. Hence,
your typical RS-232 cable has a DB-25, indicating a D-connector with a size
B shell with 25 contacts in it. They are further designated 'S' for socket
(female) and 'P' for plug (male), which is not too hard to figure out.
Likewise, the floppy disk cable connector formerly seen on PC FDC's used a
DC37S connector, and what's most often seen on SCSI equipment attached to
SUN systems is a DD50, though I can't remember which sex goes on what. The
smaller serial connector now common on PC's is a DE-9, and the 15-pin
connector used for joystics and MIDI is the DA15. On the other hand, the
VGA connector would be a DE15, though I can't say I've ever seen it called
out that way.
Dick
-----Original Message-----
From: Jack Truman <jack_truman(a)hotmail.com>
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
Date: Sunday, June 06, 1999 8:22 PM
Subject: i'm confused..
>Hello,
> This is probably a dumb questions, but i'm unsure of what a "D-type
>b-miniature connector" is. I'm trying to connect my PC's serial port to my
>VAXstation 3100, and the H8571-J adapter converts the 6-pin MMJ port to a
>"D-type sub-miniature connector." Is that simply a fancy word for a female
>serial port?
>Thanks in advance. :)
>
>-Jack
>
>
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Hello,
This is probably a dumb questions, but i'm unsure of what a "D-type
b-miniature connector" is. I'm trying to connect my PC's serial port to my
VAXstation 3100, and the H8571-J adapter converts the 6-pin MMJ port to a
"D-type sub-miniature connector." Is that simply a fancy word for a female
serial port?
Thanks in advance. :)
-Jack
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>>I'm advocating that any public archive should be accessible to as many
people as possible.
It's fruitless arguments like this disuade other list members from making
their DOCS available. No matter what format is chosen, *someone* will
always be dissatisfied.
I say, use whatever methodology is most convenient for the "publisher". If
another user wants the info bad enough, they'll figure out how to read it!
Just my $.02
Steve Robertson <steverob(a)hotoffice.com>
Hi!
I just picked up a Disney Sound Source (?1983) from a flea market. From
what I know, it's a external sound card that'll play Wav files. Does anyone
have drivers for it??
ThAnX,
///--->>>
-Jason Willgruber
(roblwill(a)usaor.net)
ICQ#: 1730318
<http://members.tripod.com/general_1>
These aren't S-100 card documents, Sam, they're Disk drive documents, and
they're service documents at that.
A positive construct would be a novel thing to see from you, Sam. You're
against everything, and favor nothing, apparently. Can you name even one
computer from among the ones you listed that has the capability real, not
putative, in both hardware and software, of getting anything from the web?
Those people who choose to use computers unable to handle graphic displays
always have the option of choosing to use a computer capable of doing so.
If they choose not to, it's no different from you choosing your position.
It's their choice which prevents them from having the benefit of an archive
not compatible with the dozen or two others in their group, while readily
accessible to the tens of millions who don't make that choice. They can
always go to the local library if they need. It's like the folks who won't
drive a car, though not as environmentally conscious. They could ride a
bus. They really don't have to walk, and you, Sam, you don't have to sit
and curse the darkness. I invite you to light one candle. Make a
suggestion that would work.
Dick
-----Original Message-----
From: Sellam Ismail <dastar(a)ncal.verio.com>
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
Date: Monday, June 07, 1999 12:45 AM
Subject: Re: Disk Drive Documents
>On Sun, 6 Jun 1999, Richard Erlacher wrote:
>
>> Let's try to keep this in perspective, Sam. When there's a text file
>> format which will display the exploded view drawings in these service
>> documents on your (Apple ][, Commodore 64, Atari x00, TI 99/4a, TRS-80
>> Model x, Heathkit Hx, OSI Challenger x, IMSAI 8080, Altair >8800, etc)
>
>You're still missing the point. Some people choose to use computers that
>aren't even PC-based. All they may have availabe is a text-based display
>and a couple disk drives.
>
>You're the one who should keep this in prespective. Since when does all
>documentation reuire an exploded diagram? Why does an S-100 bus card need
>an exploded diagram??
>
>> then you may have a valid point. For that matter, aside from the last
>> three on the list, there's not one likely to need this documentation,
>> nor is it likely that anyone unable to afford disk space enough to
>> hold a complete PDF file of one of these relatively short documents
>> when a 10GB disk drive costs less than $200, will be able to afford
>> one of the "antique" devices to which they apply.
>
>This is a silly argument, but coming from you I'm not surprised.
>
>> Take a look at the "unofficial CP/M web site," whatever the URL is, and
>> you'll see the document files offered in several formats, though I'd
>> speculate that none of the systems you listed in your comments,
"(Apple ][,
>> Commodore 64, Atari x00, TI 99/4a, TRS-80 Model x, Heathkit Hx, OSI
>> Challenger x, IMSAI 8080, Altair 8800, etc)" can view any of those files.
>>
>> Perhaps you can offer a positive construct rather than simply wringing
your
>> hands and being a naysayer.
>
>I'm hardly being a naysayer. I'm advocating that any public archive
>should be accessible to as many people as possible. I'm not forcing you
>to follow my suggestions. I realize that not everyone has a firm grasp on
>common sense.
>
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>
Hi,
On Thu, 13 May 1999 Doug Spence wrote:
> >> As for disk transfers, I can do that with my handy-dandy A1020 drive
> >> on my Amiga. It reads and writes several Atari 8-bit formats just
> >> fine, including 810 (SS/SD) and XF551 (DS/DD?).
> >
> > Hmm have to check that out.
>
> Yes, if your Amiga's 5.25" floppy drive is connected to the Amiga's
> floppy controller, you should be able to do the same thing.
>
> The program for doing this is on aminet:misc/emu/551conv.lha
Talking of the Amiga 1020 drive... I would like to get hold of one of these. Am
I correct in thinking that they were not sold in the UK (where I live)?
If I can't find an A1020 (or compatible replacement, if any were made), I may
try and rig up my own drive.
To this end, can some kind person who owns an A1020 open it up, and tell me
what type/model the drive mechanism is, and also describe any interface PCB
that's inside?
-- Mark
I don't have any Disney games, but I downloaded Sputter and tried it out on
my Zenith SupersPORT (8088). All I could get it to do was make the internal
speaker crackle. I seem to be doing what it says to in the docs (for
Sputter), but can't get it to work. I wouldn't mind having the Windows
drivers, though, since I hope to use the Sound Source on an old 386 laptop
that I have (maybe...)
///--->>>
-Jason Willgruber
(roblwill(a)usaor.net)
ICQ#: 1730318
<http://members.tripod.com/general_1>
-----Original Message-----
From: John Ruschmeyer <jruschme(a)exit109.com>
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
Date: Sonntag, 6. Juni 1999 17:31
Subject: Re: Disney Sound Source
>> >I just picked up a Disney Sound Source (?1983) from a flea market. From
>> >what I know, it's a external sound card that'll play Wav files. Does
anyone
>> >have drivers for it??
>>
>> Jason,
>>
>> I think there are drivers for it in Windows 3.1 .
>
>There are Windows 3.1 drivers (I have a copy around here somewhere... just
>hope it's on something readable). Beyond that, I know that some Disney
>games supported it as did the sound utility 'sputter'.
>
><<<john>>>
>
Yeah. Whit a little silver box with a Mickey Mouse Silhouette on it. It
looked similar to the Covox Speech Thing, and connected to the amplifier /
speaker with a RJ-11 jack.
///--->>>
-Jason Willgruber
(roblwill(a)usaor.net)
ICQ#: 1730318
<http://members.tripod.com/general_1>
BTW>> I need drivers for the Covox Speech Thing, too.
-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Passmore <fpp(a)concentric.net>
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
Date: Sonntag, 6. Juni 1999 13:15
Subject: Re: Disney Sound Source
>Is this the sound card that attached to the parallel port?
>
>>I just picked up a Disney Sound Source (?1983) from a flea market. From
>>what I know, it's a external sound card that'll play Wav files. Does
>anyone
>>have drivers for it??
>
>
>
Gracias too Tim and Bruce for the answer to my board question.
I have the 16-channel RS232 port assembly that goes on the other
end of this... I just didn't know what it hooked up to.. till now.
What started this was taking an inventory of the 1/44 to see about
fitting an RL11 into it, thus to begin using RL02s.
Of course this rash activity is bound to generate a small flurry
of further perplexities... at least I've got full docs on everything.
Cheerz
John
Also I have Docs on the CS11 if you need to know something
Dan
-----Original Message-----
From: John Lawson <jpl15(a)netcom.com>
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
Date: Sunday, June 06, 1999 9:31 PM
Subject: Emulex Thanx
>
> Gracias too Tim and Bruce for the answer to my board question.
>
> I have the 16-channel RS232 port assembly that goes on the other
>end of this... I just didn't know what it hooked up to.. till now.
>
> What started this was taking an inventory of the 1/44 to see about
>fitting an RL11 into it, thus to begin using RL02s.
>
> Of course this rash activity is bound to generate a small flurry
>of further perplexities... at least I've got full docs on everything.
>
> Cheerz
>
>John
>
>
First of all, let me say that I'm in complete agreement with your notion
that the doc's don't have to be put out in only one format. It's just that
I've been so extremely satisfied (ask anyone who knows me and they'll tell
you that's not easy!) with the PDF for document publication that any other
way simply hadn't arrived here yet.
With the Acrord32 program under Win95, you can print the pages you want and
skip the rest, you can search for specific words and phrases, and you can
print double-sided whether you have a duplex printer or not. You can
generate extremely good-looking documents with almost no effort. You just
can't edit them or such, and that's fine with me. I've seen some truly
terrible PDF documents, obviously scanned from bad source documents or with
a really dirty scanner, and not cleaned up as I'd probably be inclined to do
if any of these documents turned out to be "bad" or difficult to read. The
ones I've seen which were bad were posted PDF's of CP/M documents which I
probably ought to be glad I could get in any form.
What I would like to avoid, here, is getting in a position where we evaluate
the product on the basis of the tools used to generate it. I use WIndows95
because it's a convenient tool for doing what I do with it. I use DOS where
it's convenient and when I see a version of, say, LINUX that's got current
documentation I'll look at it again too, since there are supposed to be some
things that it does very handily as well. I agree about the documentation
angle, but I don't agree that being free makes a product better. It just
improves the price-performance comparison factors and helps with motivation
to try it. I do believe that publishing the scanned documents as completely
as possible is desirable, so that when you run into that "see figure 8a on
page ..." you'll have that as well. If you only need to print sheet 14 of
39, that's what you should be able to print, not the entire document when
all you wanted was the PLL's lowpass filter. PDF allows all that. If we
can get a consensus on other formats, I'm willing. For now, we still need a
"home" for such documents as these. The provider of this site space may
have something to say about format or about how many formats he sees fit to
house.
If this set of doc's can be scanned and put together into a useable form of
PDF document, then I see that as one relatively straightforward solution.
If there were a good PCL or PostScript viewer, widely distributed enough
that a substantial number of potential users would have it at their
disposal, that would also be useful distribution format. If it could be
hammered into a Word97 document, that might be a candidate. What's
important is that a large number of potential users have access to the
format that's chosen.
Comments and suggestions are welcome!
Dick
-----Original Message-----
From: Tony Duell <ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk>
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
Date: Sunday, June 06, 1999 2:30 PM
Subject: Re: Disk Drive Documents
>> If, ultimately, the decision is made to serve these documents up in
linked
>> form rather than monolithic form, I'd submit that it is still desirable
to
>> be able to download the entire document as a single object. Some
provision
>> for that must be made, and I don't think it's simple.
>>
>> Comments?
>
>Well, of course, nobody is saying that you have to distribute these
>documents in only one format. And in many ways, the original scans (as
>.gif or whatever) are closer to the original documents that something
>that's been modified (OCRed, cleaned up, etc, so IMHO they should be
>available somewhere.
>
>I still think that a .pdf is not the best way to group a number of
>scanned pages together. There are plenty of simpler, better documented,
>solutions for this. Two obvious ones are .zip and .tar.gz . I've used
>many ftp sites that will create one or other of those 'on the fly' - if
>you want to download an entire directory, you can get
><directory_name>.zip (or .tar.gz) and it transfers one file to your
>machine for you to unpack later.
>
>But the ability to get only some pages from a manual I would think would
>be very useful. Most times service manuals contain information that is
>not that useful for a particular repair (things like the original parts
>lists when parts haven't been stocked under those part numbers for at
>least 10 years, things like the exploded diagrams when you have an
>electronic fault, or the schematics when you have a mechanical fault,
>etc). I don't like wasting network bandwidth if I can avoid it.
>
>
>
>>
>> Dick
>
>-tony
>
I have an Emulex CS1110201-U2D card in my 11/44 system, that
despite my best efforts at due diligence, I cannot find a reference
or any other data regearding it.
The other numbers on the label associated with the part number are
3997H and 4372A, and along the top it has a number of PROMS marked
300J thru 311J. It is hex-height and has a single Berg header with
a ribbon cable and 34-pin connector. The connector is marked with
the number CU1111201-02 B.
If anyone recognizes this I would like to know 'whuzzit'?
Cheers
John
COWABUNGA!!
My beautiful new GRiD Compass is now online!
The keyboard seems to need a little bit of cleaning or working-in,
sometimes keypresses don't register.
This thing automatically loads up a VT100 emulator when I turn it on.
Does anyone know anything about GRiD-OS? I think it was version
3.something. I'll verify that later.
I'm just SOOO happy that the Compass works! I'v been wanting to at least
_see_ one in operation since I first read the review in... I'm not
sure... January 1984 Creative Computing? (No, I think that was the
Gavilan.)
I'm going to have to poke around some more. I just wanted to dial in with
the thing and make this announcement. :) (It's hard to find a provider
that will accept a 1200bps conection these days, huh?)
So... GPIB is the same as IEEE-488? Anyone got an adapter cable for
GRiD-to-CBM? :)
YES!! Plasma display AND bubble memory in ONE machine!
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> I have an Emulex CS1110201-U2D card in my 11/44 system, that
>despite my best efforts at due diligence, I cannot find a reference
>or any other data regearding it.
> If anyone recognizes this I would like to know 'whuzzit'?
This is (surprise) an Emulex CS11. It emulates a DH11 async multiplexer,
with some bells and whistles like modem control if you use the right cab
kit. The magic for this series of Emulex cards is in the cab kit,
as there's a fair amount of logic that lives there. Do you have the
cab kit?
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On Sun, 6 Jun 1999, James Szajda wrote:
> If you are still the person to contact, I am looking for a boot disk for
> a Victor 9000 system. Any help you can give me will be appreciated.
For many machines I am, James. Unfortunately, the Victor 9000 is not one
of them. The problem is that the 9000, or Sirius, uses a very unusual
format on its disks. They are both Group Code Recording formatted and
also done on a variable speed drive. Essentially, the only person who can
provide you with a boot disk is someone who owns one that is in working
condition.
I will post this to the Classic Computer mailing list and see if it
generates any response to you. In the meantime, it might serve you well
to post a query on comp.os.cpm and see if that gets a response.
Wish I could do more.
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Is this the sound card that attached to the parallel port?
>I just picked up a Disney Sound Source (?1983) from a flea market. From
>what I know, it's a external sound card that'll play Wav files. Does
anyone
>have drivers for it??
I've observed that many text documents are formatted in HTML rather than
PDF, and have links to seaparate files for the graphic segments. The
manuals do have considerable text in them, which might benefit from OCR and
re-creation and re-editing of the manuals with only the scanned graphics as
original files. Even some of the schematic segments might be better
re-created due to the fine line pitch, which tends to become really ugly in
scanned documents.
I use Typemaster Pro, which is quite old, but very effective at isolating
graphics from text and perhaps well suited for segregating the text sections
>from the illustrations. It's been around since about 10 years ago when
nothing else would touch it. My scanner is a 300 DPI monochrome (but legal
size) scanner with a sheetfeeder (which I wish would work properly). In
conjuction with this old scanner, the software has done multipage scans to
text of large documents in almost as little time as it takes to read them.
It manages to learn the fonts and handles two typefaces with serifs at the
same time as two without. If your document has more than that, you're on
your own, of course, but it does a nice job, particularly with handling text
which is flowed around some graphics, which it recognizes and leaves
undisturbed.
If, ultimately, the decision is made to serve these documents up in linked
form rather than monolithic form, I'd submit that it is still desirable to
be able to download the entire document as a single object. Some provision
for that must be made, and I don't think it's simple.
Comments?
Dick
-----Original Message-----
From: Tony Duell <ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk>
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
Date: Sunday, June 06, 1999 10:36 AM
Subject: Re: Disk Drive Documents
>[Wonderful list of docs snipped]
>
>> If this stuff is worth preserving, perhaps there's a way to save scanned
>> images for eventual conversion to PDF. Does anyone know about this?
>
>In my opinion, PDF files are not really appropriate for scanned documents
>(they _may_ be more use for documents that are initially created and
>distributed in this format). For one (selfish) thing, I've yet to find a
>useable way to print these out on any of my machines.
>
>The best way I've seen so far for this is simply to put a directory of
>suitable graphics files on an ftp site (.gif seems to compress quite well
>- 17"*11" circuit diagrams scanned at 300dpi are around 300K) and provide
>a text file describing each page (not just as 'page 7 of the ST506 service
>manual' but something like 'page 7 -- Page 1 of 3 of the schematic').
>
>That way, people can download just what they want (if you need a
>schematic, you don't waste time downloading parts lists as well). And the
>result is portable to a lot more systems.
>
>If there are substantial text areas in the manual it may be worth trying
>to OCR it to a plain ASCII file.
>
>-tony
>
--- Tony Duell <ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> Interesting. This is the first time I've heard of a 16 sector RK05f pack
> (not too suprised that one existed...)
>
> I am told that you couldn't reliably move RK05f packs between drives.
> Heck, you were supposed to reformat the pack (according to one of the
> manuals) if you took it out and put it back in again.
Bummer. I've always wondered what's on this thing. I may never know. :-(
-ethan
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>Tim Shoppa just noted that V5.7 of RT-11 allows an RX50 floppy drive
>to FORMAT under RT-11, but I am not aware if that is for EVERY
>RX50 floppy drive, OR ONLY the special ones that have been noted
>as being able to do a FORMAT on a Rainbow. Either you (Allison)
>or Megan Gentry or someone else mentioned that recently. And I
>don't know if all RQDX1,2,3 are included.
I've not yet tried formatting an RX50 with V5.7, but I suspect that
it requires 1) an RX33 drive and 2) an RQDX3 (though maybe even the
RQZX1 will work - I'll have to defer to Tim on this).
When I was working on V5.6, the best we could do was format RX33s on
an RX33 drive... if you attemped to format an RX50 on an RX33 drive,
you got an RX33-formatted RX50 which was neither 1) usable or
2) reformattable to RX50.
Megan Gentry
Former RT-11 Developer
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