Hi,
I have the following tram and I don't know what it is. It is
manufactured
by T2 Systems Ltd and is called a "Paradise 1/A" tram. It is a size 4
tram
that has a T80x transputer on it. It also contains what looks like an
IDC
50-pin connector (I didn;t count the pins, so I could be wrong). Does
anyone
know what it is?? Someone told me that it might be a data aquisition
board
(the IDC 50 looks like a connector for data aquisition according to this
guy)
but he can be wrong. If it is a DAQ card, what can I use it for??
Thanks
Ram
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While fumbling around among some old stuff in the basement, I found a
notebook which contains the OEM and service manuals for the following
SHUGART 8" Floppy Drives.
800/801, 850/851, 860/861, 600-series
Siemens 8" Floppy Drives
FDD 100-8 (2 versions, quite different, same part number) User (OEM)
Manuals only
Seagate Technology 5-1/4" Winchesters
Model 506, 406, 409, 412
Persci
Model 270, model 277
If this stuff is worth preserving, perhaps there's a way to save scanned
images for eventual conversion to PDF. Does anyone know about this?
Dick
Hi all,
today some quite unbelievable piece of luck happened to me:
While I was walking by the back entrance of a smaller University
here in Minneapolis purely accidentally, not thinking about computers at all,
I ran into
a pile of electronics. Short investigation revealed that it was a 1965 CDC
3000
series hard drive electronics cage (14" removable pack electronics),
perfectly undamaged and complete with all the ~150 cards (it so happened that
I worked on an identical cage about 15 years ago),
plus a heap of cards from assorted ~1971 Univac / Burroughs machines !
Within the next hour I found out that the building will be completely
remodeled,
and had to be emptied out. Quite obviously, someone forgot about 25 years ago
this set of things in the second-level basement; nothing else there, though.
General lesson: we should ask all schools regularly for their renovation
projects !!
John G. Zabolitzky
P.S. If anyone knows about / wants to get rid of CDC equipment of that
vintage, please let me know !
And yet another one... An Intel MCS-85 System Design Kit (8085
based single Board Computer) has wandered in sans docs...
Anyone have a manual on this critter?
-jim
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I recently got a couple of tape streamers: a Tandberg 3610 and
a 3300. Does anyone have any documentation/specs on these drives?
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> Tony Duell wrote:
>>
>> > FWIW the teeth on these belts are pitched at 0.080 inch - the standard
"mini
>> > pitch", unlike some equipment I have which uses belts with the teeth at
0.081
>> > inch...
>>
>> Can you really measure 1 thou difference on something like this? I would
>> have thought the 'wrong' belt would have fitted anyway, since the rubber
>> is somewhat elastic, and over the 20-or-so teeth engaged on a typical
>> sprocket, you've only got an error of 20 thou...
>
To answer Tony's question first, yes you can. Take one of each belt and turn
them inside out, i.e. teeth on the outside. (.080 inch from HP-85, .081 inch
>from can't remember the make of papertape punch that was sold in the UK by
Teleprinter Equipment.) Try and mesh the teeth of the two belts. It soon
becomes obvious which one has the larger pitch. These belts, being
string-reinforced, are not very stretchy and it would be difficult to get a .080
to run on .081 pulleys.
>> In any case, how hard is it to make new sprockets with the right pitch
>> (or even skim a bit off the existing ones to reduce the diameter
>> slightly)? If the 'right' belts are impossible to obtain, this would seem
>> to be a sensible solution.
It might be a solution. In my Tektronix 4662 the belt is intact, but the pulley
has died (20 teeth) I glued the old bits of (plastic) sprocket to the (metal)
hub but it was just inaccurate enough to drop a tooth here and there. Result,
the plotter couldn't get at the pens because they were offered up to the pen
carrier at the wrong place...
It might be quite easy to _buy_ new sprockets for .080 pitch. If not, I may ask
to borrow your lathe, dividing head, etc...
[Stan:]
> Actually, the proper belts for the HP-85 printer are still easy to come
> by. It took just two phone calls and I found a company called Stock
> Drive Products in New Hyde Park, NY (516-328-3300). They ship these
> belts from stock, and it doesn't appear that they have a minimum order
> quantity (I ordered three of each of the two belts). The two part
> numbers are A6B16-175012 and A6B16-078012, and they cost about two or
> three dollars each.
>
Lucky you. When I contacted Stock Drive Products, they referred me to their UK
agent, Davall. Davall do not, as far as I can determine, stock the HP85 belts.
I found, eventually, another supplier, who said they could get the .080 and .081
pitch belts. I told them what belts I wanted and they promised to fax me a
price, but I never heard any more. When I next get around to looking at the
punch, I'll have another try...
Philip.
Out on another info quest...
Just added a couple of Kennedy 9610, 9-track tape drives to the collection
(nice since they are multi-density 800 thru 6260) and of course have no
docs on them... (ain't it always the way?)
So in particular, I'd like to find some tech info on the (so called)
"Pertec Interface" so I can figure out what various systems in the
collection I might be able to convince these critters to work with. (and
get a bit more knowledge on tape drive interfacing in general)
Any assistance, pointers, spare docs, etc., most welcome!
Thanks;
-jim
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Hi. I'm from Portugal, and I just wanted to state my interest
on old computing material (non-PC) anyone wants to
sell/give-away. Since it's not trivial to send medium-sized packaged
overseas, I'm directing this mail to people living in europe (the
closer to portugal the better 8-).
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I believe I have located the appropriate materials to allow me to
sysgen my 11/44 RSTS/E system, in order to add support for RL02s,and
maybe RX02s and a few other things....
I have obviously never essayed this task before, though I *have*
sysgenned a number of smaller CP/M systems, and I think I understand
the basics of what/why.
If there is anyone on The List reading this who has done this
(sysgenning RSTS) before, and *especially* if there are big gaping
booby traps to fall into... I would be most interested in the
benefit of your experience.
The install.log is available from the previous sysgen, so I have
all the responses to the dialogs.
Like (duh!) ought I to back up what I have now? [how does one do
this to MS0: 1/2" tape?]
Ought I to partition the drive? Does the process overlay the
existing OS areas, or does it start over completely?
And please don't jam me about RTFM... even if I *had* them I'm sure
I'd have a bunch of other newbie questions....
;}
Cheers and thanks...
John
Hi folks,
I was just lucky enough to acquire a PT SOL-20 (1976) in great shape to add
to my collection.
Unfortunately, no documentation, I would dearly love to have that, either in
the original or a photocopy
Anybody??
Thanks
Robert
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wanted to pass along the good news - we have updated our eBay auction links,
just point and click for what you're looking for in old computers. Please try
it and we welcome your comments and/or suggestions for making it better and
more complete. Go to:
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Also, "Classic Computing" #1 is ready to mail! It's turned out great and has
the spirit of it's earlier incarnation, "Historically Brewed." Selected
articles from the new issue, as well as past issues will be added to the site
this week. Thanks very much. Retrocompute!
David Greelish
Classic Computing Press
www.classiccomputing.com
> Wouter de Waal wrote:
>>
>> Hi all
>>
>> Yesterday evening a friend gave me a new toy. Hp85, which is a
>> strange looking computer. Four slots at the back, and I have
>
> Just a quick reminder not to put a tape in the unit until you have checked
> that the rubber roller inside is still intact. Looking is not quite good
> enough but pushing it with a pencil eraser or whatever against it will show
> if the rubber has deteriorated or is still good.
While we're on the subject of decaying rubber in an HP85, I would add, don't try
to run the printer until you have opened the unit up and freed off the drive
belts - one for paper advance, one for print head. These belts go sticky and
stick to the pulleys, so that when you try and run the machine they tear
themselves to bits.
It's a pity you weren't here a few months ago - a number of us got together and
bought a bulk order of replacement belts very cheaply. I still have a spare
pair if you're desperate, and I imagine one or two others may.
FWIW the teeth on these belts are pitched at 0.080 inch - the standard "mini
pitch", unlike some equipment I have which uses belts with the teeth at 0.081
inch...
Philip.
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Hi all,
I'm working on a volunteer project at the Computer History Center to
interface a Documation desk top 80-column card reader to an IBM PC. The
card reader is in very good condition, however we have no documentation
for it. Do you know of, have, or can you provide pointers to any
documentation
for this device, how to interface to it, or operational information?
On the back panel of the reader is a plate which lists the model as
Documation "Model RM/TRM 10.12L-10.12C", with a sticker on the front
with "Model 10.L12+", and operates at 115V 6.1A.
The reader has a 1" x 2" (approximately) data connector on the back with
this layout:
+---------------------+
| O O O O |
| O O O O |
| O O O O O O |
| O O O O |
+ | O X O | +
| O O O O |
| O O O O O O |
| O O O O |
| O O O O |
+---------------------+
Legend: O female connector
X Connector screw hole in center of the recepticle
+ Guide holes where the hood would attach
The data connector is similar to, but isn't, a V.35 connector.
TIA for your help. Please respond via email or phone.
Thanks!
Lee Courtney
(650) 964-7052
leec AT-SIGN slip DOT net
Hi folks,
I went to the Rochester Hamfest on 5 June. Amongst other radio and computer
items I dragged home were two VXT2000 boxes. No displays or keyboards, just
the pizza boxes. The guy literally gave them to me when I was at his
fleamarket space as he was starting to packup and go home just because I
was studying them intently (I never saw one before).
That'll learn me not to stare so dang long at somethin' an' get nabbed by
the owner! My wife was there too. She just rolled her eyes after the
'transaction'. At least she carried the NOS P54 motherboard and parts we
found for my stepson's computer upgrade plus some radio parts and manuals
after I got handed the VXT's.
These I understand are X-terminals but I know nothing else about them.
Searching the usual places for useful info only told me they were X-terms.
Could anybody provide more info to a curious mind as to what the hardware
details are, their typical usage, any other details, etc.? Specific model
numbers are VX20A-AA and VX20A-BC. I see the -AA has color video output and
the -BC is monochrome. Seem to be the only hardware diffs.
Will the good old LK201 keyboard work with these? What about the mono
video: will the VT240 mono monitor work with the -BC?
Kinda classy-lookin' hardware inside. Useful for anything (seriously)?
Off-list please as these are really less than 10 years old.
Thanks in advance for your usual good info!
Regards, Chris
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Hi Erik:
Thanks for the email. You'll need the Processor Handbook for the 11/70. It
tells all about how to use the front panel. If you need schematics
(probably not at this stage) then I can assist. I don't have the processor
handbook, I suggest that you post on the classiccmp list and one of
several people (Tony, Megan, Allison, Tim, ...) will likely respond with
an offer to photocopy the relevant sections.
I run a pdp-8 web site, one friend runs a pdp-11 web site on my machine.
He may have posted the 11/70 manual in scanned form, or may have it and be
able to scan it/copy it for you. Check out
http://highgate.comm.sfu.ca/~rcini.
Good luck,
Kevin
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Hi Christian,
-----Original Message-----
From: Christian Fandt <cfandt(a)netsync.net>
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
Date: Monday, June 14, 1999 7:59 PM
Subject: VXT2000 info needed
>These I understand are X-terminals but I know nothing else about them.
>Searching the usual places for useful info only told me they were X-terms.
Very nice X-Terminal. Even fast. Just got one of these one month ago and
love to have it on my DECStation/NetBSD.
>Could anybody provide more info to a curious mind as to what the hardware
>details are, their typical usage, any other details, etc.?
The VXT2000 is a little brother of the VAXStation 4000/90 (got the SGEC
EThernet Chip form there) and the VAXStation 4000/vlc (got the CPU from
there. Same CPU & Clock)
> Specific model
>numbers are VX20A-AA and VX20A-BC. I see the -AA has color video output
and a resolution of 1280x1024x8
> and the -BC is monochrome. Seem to be the only hardware diffs.
You can use the "standard" ps/2 simms in it. but only the 4MB pieces.
>Will the good old LK201 keyboard work with these?
Yes.
> What about the mono video: will the VT240 mono monitor work with the -BC?
NO, look at the resolution above :-((
>Kinda classy-lookin' hardware inside. Useful for anything (seriously)?
YES. As a X-Terminal.
Have fun,
emanuel
<Okay Allison, now you caught me with three heretofore unheard of terms:
<Cvax, Nvax and SOC. What the heck are these definitions? My MVII: what ter
<above applies to it?
Microvaxen are all the same like 386, 486, P5, however they mostly differin
technology used to make them.
MVII is the first NMOS version.
Cvax is a CMOS version that was about 2.4-3.0 faster.
SOC is system on chip, more of the glue and larger cache are inside it.
speed on this can run to greater tha 20x MVII.
Nvax is Cvax with internal cache 3-8x MVII
I listed them in order of speed.
chopped from a list by:
Paul Hardy (PGH), Product Manager (former Chief Programmer),
Laser-Scan Ltd, Science Park, Milton Rd, CAMBRIDGE, CB4 4FY, England.
----+---+-----+-------+--------+--------------------------------+---------
SID | X | Id | Speed | Bus | Model Name | Nickname
----+---+-----+-------+--------+--------------------------------+---------
MicroVAX II series (1985) - Decimal SID = 134217728 --------+--------------
08 | 1 | UV2 | 0.9 | Q | MicroVAX II,VAXstation II | Mayflower
08 | 1 | UV2 | 0.9 | Q | VAXstation II/GPX | Caylith
08 | 4 | 410 | 0.9 | none | MicroVAX 2000 | TeamMate
08 | 4 | 410 | 0.9 | none | VAXstation 2000 | VAXstar
----+---+-----+-------+--------+--------------------------------+-----------
CVAX chip series (1987) - Decimal SID = 167772160 ----------+--------------
0A | 4 | 420 | 2.8 | S | VAXstation 3100 models 30, 40 | PVAX
0A | 4 | 420 | 2.4 | S | MicroVAX 3100 models 10, 20 | Teammate II
0A | 4 | 420 | 3.5 | S | MicroVAX 3100 models 10e, 20e | Teammate II
0A | 4 | 420 | 3.8 | S | VAXstation 3100 models 38, 48 | PVAX rev#7
Rigel chip series (1990) - Decimal SID = 184549376 ---------+--------------
0B | 4 | 43 | 7.6 | S | VAXstation 3100 model 76 | RigelMAX
Mariah chip series (1991) - Decimal SID = 301989888 --------+------------
12 | 4 | 46 | 12 | S | MicroVAX 3100 model 80 | Waverley/M
12 | 4 | 46 | 17 | S | MicroVAX 3100 model 85 | Waverley/M+
NVAX chip series (1991) - Decimal SID = 318767104 ----------+--------------
13 | 4 | 49 | 24 | S | MicroVAX 3100 model 90 | Cheetah
13 | 4 | 49 | 32 | S | MicroVAX 3100 model 95 | Cheetah+
13 | 4 | 49 | 38 | S | MicroVAX 3100 model 96 | Cheetah++
SOC chip series (1991) - Decimal SID = 335544320 -----------+--------------
14 | 4 | 440 | 5.0 | S | MicroVAX 3100 models 30, 40 | Waverley/S
Allison
<items I dragged home were two VXT2000 boxes. No displays or keyboards, jus
Neat little xterms that do DCE, LAT and IP protocals.
<Will the good old LK201 keyboard work with these? What about the mono
LK201 is good, there is a mouse too (round hawly mouse). Monitor is a
VR315. I have one of these. Check to see that there is RAM still in it!
Also the liitle rotary switch sets it for one of many monitors.
<Off-list please as these are really less than 10 years old.
They are close enough to 10 may be even over it.
Allison
I finally got all the parts together (including a newly acquired ct-64
terminal) to start the 6800's restoration. I took several pictures that can
be found at:
http://millennial-concepts.com/dogas/swtpc.html
:)
- Mike: dogas(a)leading.net
<I can pick up a VAXstation 3100 (just the box, no monitor/keyboard/etc).
<Is this worth messing with?
Yes for OSs there are three choices, VMS, Ultrix and NetBSD. There is a
free license for the first one and the last one is not quite ready for
prime time(unless you really like to work at it).
<What's in it processor wise?
Vax! Without a specific model number it's hard to be more specific.
They are all VAX, the difference being speed and added performance.
Of it's an older one it's like Cvax, later Nvax, most recent SOC.
Most 3100s are SCSI for disks and tape, have eithernet and several serial
ports so they can be quite useful for routers, mailservers, WWW servers and
the like.
< Can I rig it to a VGA monitor?
Never tried, uses some high scan rates and very high resolution.
However if that fails you can plug a terminal into the back and
talk to it that way.
<Should I let it pass?
I'm biased, never!
Allison
I can pick up a VAXstation 3100 (just the box, no monitor/keyboard/etc).
Is this worth messing with? What's in it processor wise? Can I rig it to
a VGA monitor? Should I let it pass?
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>>What would do you the most good is a DECServer 700 or some other TCP/IP
>>compatible terminal server. This you can throw onto your LAN quite easily.
>>Older DECServers (like the 200 and 300) can be put into service as well if
>>you want to go to the trouble of enabling MOP boot support and LAT in
>>your Linux box.
>Hmmm.. that's kinda impossible for me because, things like DECServer 700
>don't pop up too often...
That's OK - any DEC reseller will be glad to sell you something like a
DECServer 700. Looking through the _Processor_ that came in the mail
today I see some 16-port units with flash memory in the $1500-$2000
price range. They're *nice* terminal servers - you can even set them
up as either end of a PPP connection and they'll route to/from your
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<I assume the SCSI cable required is the old style 68? pin (female)
Yes the M76 requires the 68pin at one end cable.
Also JDR (WWW.JDR.COM) in California has 4x SCSI cdroms for a cheap $29.95
This might help others looking for SCSI cdroms. Don't know if that would
work right with vaxen but it's cheap.
Allison
>
>You know of one for $25.00? That doesn't require and IRQ for every port?
See if your version of Linux supports Digiboards. If so I have a bunch but I
will need time to make a list. They are 2, 4, 8 and 16 port version and the 8
and 16 port ones that I have played with so far you can run with either no
interrupts under NT4. I only have a few cab kits however so you may have to
make a cable set. I think I have the pinout info.
Contact me off list for further details.
Dan
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