Hallo to all members in SoCal. I plan to drop out of the
Californian sky this weekend (just stoped by at the travel
agency and found out that a flight Munich to LA is way
cheaper than Munich New York - in fact even chaeper than
a trip to Paderborn and back :). If the crater at LAX isn't
too big (and our on board terrrorist doesn't have other
plans) I would like to know if there is anything special
in the LA area for the WE.
Gruss
H.
BTW: Newsfactor has a nice cartoon about yahoo auctions today
http://www.ecommercetimes.com/images/cartoon/king010302.jpg
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> ----------
> From: Eric Dittman
>
> > Well, I think I may have found that guy. I need to find out if a
> > Digital BA 350-SA Storage Shelf is what I'm looking for...
>
> The BA350 storage shelves are narrow-only. You can't use the
> wide SBBs in them. A BA356 would probably be a better choice.
> A lot of the newer wide SBBs use SCA drives.
>
> The BA35x use a proprietary backplane, not an SCA backplane.
> Fortunately, you can find the SBBs cheap.
> --
>
Yeah, probably the same backplane that's in the older AlphaServers here...
So, to see if I understand you correctly...
- The SBB is the tray for the HDD...
- The SBBs for use in the 350, have a 50 pin connector, none have the SCA...
-- If so, I wonder if there is room inside the tray to fit a SCA 80-50pin
adapter?
-If I want to use narrow SCA-80 drives in a Digital Storage Shelf, I should
look for the 356 and SBBs for that?
--- David A Woyciesjes
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Julius Sridhar [mailto:vance@ikickass.org]
On Mon, 11 Feb 2002, Tothwolf wrote:
> > SCSI itself is confusing...basically the bus will operate at the fastest
> > rate of the slowest device on the bus.
> This is simply not the case.
This took me a while to get... it would have been better if
you'd said "this is not always the case."
If I understand properly, you are saying that, for instance,
you can plug a fast/wide disk into an ultra bus, and the bus
(of course), wouldn't run the fast/wide disk at its highest
potential bandwidth. Conversely, a narrow disk in a wide
bus would not slow the bus down.
On the other hand, I understood Toth to be talking about bus
clock only. In that case, his previous statement is as true
as yours, which, oddly enough, was made in argument to it. ;)
Chris
Christopher Smith, Perl Developer
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Yet another Microsoft Outlook exploit is on the loose... and this time the
arrogance of the recommended solution is breathtaking. The problem is the
built-in support for UUENCODED text within the body of a message. Prudent
programmers will use a starting pattern such as
"\n\nbegin ([[:octal:]]+) ([^\n]+)\n"
and subsequently verify that each line has the expected format. Even
checking only the first few lines (e.g., verifying that the first
character correctly encodes the length of the rest of the line)
essentially eliminates any chance of a false hit.
Sadly, it will surprise few people that Microsoft cuts straight to the
heart of the matter. If your line starts with "begin " (possibly with two
spaces), Outlook/Outlook Express WILL interpret the rest of the message as
a UUENCODED attachment. It doesn't need a preceding blank line, nor a
following octal number. It doesn't need subsequent lines that actually
look like UUENCODED data.
There are some reports on slashdot that later versions of O/OE have
discarded the "view source" command, with the effect that the rest of the
message is permanently lost to the user. The use of this bug as a DOS
attack on mailing lists that use a 'digest' approach is left as an
exercise for the reader.
Naturally, it hasn't taken long for the malware writers to jump on the
bandwagon. All you need to do to get around the "strip executable
attachment" killjoys is to put the malware right in the body of the
message! Just start a line with "begin 666 www.myparty.yahoo.com" and
you're off and running!
Microsoft's official position, at
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;q265230 , is
stunning in it's <s>feeble-mindedness</s> simplicity. We, and by "we"
I mean every person on the planet who may ever send a message to an
O/OE <s>victim</s> user, or have a message forwarded to such users,
are advised (with editorial comments) to:
* not start messages with the word "begin"
(actually, it's *any* line starting with the word "begin". And
that's effectively a ban on the word "begin" for anyone using a
mail agent with transparent line wrapping, e.g., the web mail
portals that some ISPs are pushing.)
* capitalize the word "begin," even when used within a sentence. E.g.,
"We will Begin the new project when Bob returns from his vacation.
* Use a different word such as "start" or "commence." E.g., all
training materials for new Visual Basic programmers shall henceforce
refer to "start/end" loops instead of "begin/end" loops.
Microsoft's justification for suggesting a significant change to the
English language instead of fixing their bug is given as:
"In a SMTP e-mail message, a file attachment that is encoded in
UUencode format is defined when the word "begin" is followed by
two spaces and then some data,..."
Needless to say there is no citation given for this "fact." That's
probably related to the fact that UUENCODE was defined by UUCP, not SMTP,
and that every encoder/decoder I have seen requires a leading blank line
and a octal file permissions code.
But the damage is done - since malware is exploiting this bug we now get
to put into place filters that don't just strip executable attachments or
properly formatted UUENCODED blocks, we also have to strip *improperly*
formatted UUENCODED blocks!
Bear Giles
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> On Mon, 11 Feb 2002, Doc wrote:
>
> > Yet another Microsoft Outlook exploit is on the loose... and this time the
> > arrogance of the recommended solution is breathtaking. The problem is the
> > built-in support for UUENCODED text within the body of a message. Prudent
> > programmers will use a starting pattern such as
>
> If people are still using MS Outlook inspite of all the viruses and crap
> that have plagued that pathetic piece of shit in the past few years then
> they not only deserve whatever damage gets done to their system via such
> vehicles but they shouldn't be allowed to use e-mail at all since they
> only end up contributing to the greater problem by running it!
Until the govt performs a door-to-door search for all the script
kiddies, whatever is the most-popular-and-prevalent-platform will be
the target for such attacks. You may think that Pine has no way of
being exploited (is Mark Crispin on this list?), but wait'll it's
the only thing we're using...
Seriously, Outlook isn't the source of the stated problems; half-assed,
self-taught, sycophantic sysadmins who can't secure their systems are!
Dick ---
Well, I think I may have found that guy. I need to find out if a
Digital BA 350-SA Storage Shelf is what I'm looking for...
--- David A Woyciesjes
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> ----------
> From: Richard Erlacher
>
> There's a fellow who routinely sells SCA backplanes to be used in such
> applications for somewher between 6 and 15 dollars on eBay. I'd look for
> those as a starting point. ISTR that he had some for pairs of three
> drives
> and some for groups of 6. 't seems to me like that will be easier to deal
> with than a search for a complete case, which will undoubtedly require a
> redundant 500W PSU as well.
>
> Dick
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Woyciesjes"
>
> > I figure I'll try here first...
> > I'm looking for a case for some SCA-80 SCSI drives I picked up. They
> > have plastic Sun drive rails, from their RAID tower, P/N 5402568-03...
> > Those rails are useless to me, and therefore up for sale/trade;
> > unless of course I can find a Sun box to use them in.
> >
> > --- David A Woyciesjes
>
Not the same thing, but similar enough to be relevant: AT&T made box (I
think with an 80486) called a StarServer. It was a Unix box and had a card
that could take two cables that went to "concentrators," which were 12 port
(IIRC) addressible serial
hubs, each with their own wall wart. The output went to a dumb terminal or
serial-interface printer. Concentrators could be daisy-chained, so at least
4 could be hooked to one card in the StarServer. I baby-sat one of these in
a law office half a dozen years ago. The concentrators were a real PITA, as
they were static sensitive -- I blew one out once with a spark while
connecting the RJ45 to a terminal once. Other times I must have looked at
the concentrator the wrong way or some such. Got to know the local AT&T/NCR
service tech pretty well :).
Bob
-----Original Message-----
From: Tothwolf [mailto:tothwolf@concentric.net]
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2002 11:07 PM
To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
Subject: Re: StarLink Multi-User System
On Mon, 11 Feb 2002, Norman Alcott wrote:
> " Introducing StarLink the computer expansion system. The system lets
> you link four "dumb" terminals or microcomputers to a single IBM
> Personal Computer, and function as if it's the only terminal connected
> to the computer."
I believe I have something similar to this stored away. It has a full size
card (can't remember if it is 8 or 16 bit, think it is 16), and a brown
molded plastic "block" with 8 25 pin D-Sub connectors on it. The block
connects to the card via a 37 pin D-Sub.
Does anyone have any information on it or have the software required to
use it?
-Toth
One of the things that I picked up this weekend was an evaluation board
for the Harris H17188 IC. I've checked Harris' site and chip directory but
I can't find anything on the H17188P. Does anyone know what this IC is?
It's in a standard .6" wide 40 pin DIP package and was made in 1995.
Joe
I have docs and software for a similar device made by Digiboard. I think
I have drivers for MS DOS, Novell and Xenix.
Joe
At 11:07 PM 2/11/02 -0600, you wrote:
>On Mon, 11 Feb 2002, Norman Alcott wrote:
>
>> " Introducing StarLink the computer expansion system. The system lets
>> you link four "dumb" terminals or microcomputers to a single IBM
>> Personal Computer, and function as if it's the only terminal connected
>> to the computer."
>
>I believe I have something similar to this stored away. It has a full size
>card (can't remember if it is 8 or 16 bit, think it is 16), and a brown
>molded plastic "block" with 8 25 pin D-Sub connectors on it. The block
>connects to the card via a 37 pin D-Sub.
>
>Does anyone have any information on it or have the software required to
>use it?
>
>-Toth
>
>
> On Mon, 11 Feb 2002, Claude Ceccon wrote:
>
> > Glancing at their site, they have a number of Opto-22 boards. The
> > Opto-22 series have a number of inputs and outputs all optically
> > isolated. I've got a number of the modules if you are interested...
>
> I know just about everything there is to know about Opto22 I/O systems, if
> you need any help or programming docs or anything...
I used to use Quatech I/O boards containing various Opto22 modules
(and Quatech interface boards) to build materials handling systems
(White carosels, Buschman sorters, scales, etc).
But being a programmer and not an EE, I never understood why we
needed extra load in the A/C output modules to get a light to
turn on. With just a 110v lightbulb, we'd get nothing. But when
we plugged in a soldering iron into the same circuit, it would
turn on and off as we expected.
I can no longer recall how we solved this problem... ideas?
-dq
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sellam Ismail [mailto:foo@siconic.com]
> While I sympathize with you here, a couple points: 1) you
> probably got a
> real good deal on it, which is why you aren't bitching too
> loudly ;) 2)
> you did ask them to make sure it powered up and it did. They
Exactly, and 3) I got it because even in the event that it was
broken, I have another shot LD player which may benefit from a
source of spare parts. :)
> you ask them to stick a laserdics in it and play it on a TV, they will
> probably tell you "we don't have a laserdisc to test it with,
Actually, the conversation went something like that...
> Please note that I am not taking your comments as a
> disgruntled buyer, but
> am simply stating how they operate.
Well, I don't consider myself disgruntled, so that's good. I do hope
that next time I deal with them it will be more smooth.
> > There was a shipping mix-up on that item, and they sent my LD
> > player to somebody else, and send me this guy's mac clone. (I
> > think I'd rather have the Mac clone at this point, though the
> > LD player may be repairable...)
> That's not excusable, but it can be attributed to the
> shortage of people
> resources. They are run so ragged that these kinds of mistakes can
> happen unfortunately. We're working to smooth out the whole process
> though.
I attributed this to the fact that it was ordered just at the beginning
of December, and even ACCRC may have an unusually high volume of orders
at that time.
> There is one person handling the high-end workstation sales.
That's the impression I got...
> One day a
> laid-off geologist walked in and said "I want to learn some
> nifty computer
> skills" so they pointed to a pile of workstations and said
> "go to work"
> (this story is made up but I think it's at least half accurate :)
Well, it's at least half convincing, anyway.
> The guy taught himself everything about SGI, HP, DEC, etc.
> workstations
> and went about putting together and testing complete systems
> for sale on
> Aftermath. He does a pretty good job at it.
He was able to find the faulty part. Honestly, I wish I'd been
able to do that, myself, but I don't have the stack of SGI pieces
to do it :)
> That being said, I think he did his darndest to put together
> a completely
> functional system for you, and I'm sure it was when he boxed
> it up. But
> something probably happened to it in transit.
It seems so -- had you seen the condition it was in when I got it
the first time, you would be even more convinced. I think, but
can't prove, that at least part of the problem may have been UPS.
> Again, lack of resources (specifically people). These guys
> will always
> uphold their end of the deal and will NEVER screw you. You will NEVER
> feel like you got ripped off from them. This is because the
> organization
> is run by one of the most ethical, honest and
> straight-forward people I
> have ever met, James Burgett.
As far as I have dealt with them so far, that seems correct. I
should make it clear that I didn't mean to scare anyone away with
my previous message, but I wanted to give a relatively complete
picture of my dealings with them. My case is probably exceptional,
and I've heard from others who don't have nearly this much trouble.
> Again, they will only test it as far as you ask, or as far as
> they have
> the time and skills to do so. They will never misrepresent
> anything they
> have for sale.
No problem there, of course. They seem to describe their items in
complete and accurate terms.
> They are incredibly decent folk, and all of them have an expertise in
> something, and sometimes it intersects with the expertise you need to
> determine if they have what you want :)
... which is, of course, better luck than you'd have at any local
store, in my experience. ;) Or maybe I'm cursed, and just shouldn't
be allowed to make purchases.
Chris
Christopher Smith, Perl Developer
Amdocs - Champaign, IL
/usr/bin/perl -e '
print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n");
'
On State Street, as Russ said. Most were south of the Loop, but there was
one in the north of the loop at Dearborn & Lake until a few years ago. Most
of the active ones are just north of the river now. (I used to work in the
Old Court House building on Hubbard & State, and there was/is one across the
street.
-----Original Message-----
From: Sellam Ismail [mailto:foo@siconic.com]
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 3:06 AM
To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
Subject: RE: Dumpster in the alley.
On Tue, 12 Feb 2002, Russ Blakeman wrote:
> Wacker for bus-only traffic and tore down the adult theaters at the SW
> corner of Wacker and State. Harold Washington College wasn;t there then,
no
They had adult theaters on Wacker Street?
Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer
Festival
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: g(a)kurico.com [mailto:g@kurico.com]
> Has anyone tryed purchasing anything from these guys? Their
> site has come up on
> the list before.
I have. Just recently, in fact. I purchased two items -- a
laserdisc player and an SGI Indy.
The Laserdisc player was purchased with the understanding that
they'd test it to make sure it powered up. It did, however
it was trashed internally. Not a big problem, since I understood
that it might be when I purchased it.
There was a shipping mix-up on that item, and they sent my LD
player to somebody else, and send me this guy's mac clone. (I
think I'd rather have the Mac clone at this point, though the
LD player may be repairable...)
The SGI was supposed to be tested and working, but shipped to me
with some problems. The drive sled had become loose in shipping,
and somehow managed to knock the RTC out of its socket half-way.
Needless to say, it wouldn't
power up when I got it. After carefully reseating the RTC,
I managed to get it to turn on, but it wouldn't boot properly.
I ended up having to ship it back. It seems that the power
supply was bad. It was eventually replaced and sent back to
me.
The system is now in working order, however, the CD drive
I got with the system seems to be having some trouble.
(seemingly random read errors, for instance) They have
offered to ship me a second CD drive and allow me to keep
this one (which again may be repairable) for the cost of
shipping. (this is really fine with me, since I like that
drive, and I'd like to get it working for use as a spare)
At any rate, I'm expecting the new drive sometime soon.
The problem is that I placed my orders originally in early
December. They're a little slow in responding.
If you can put up with that, and with the fact that what you
order from them may not be well tested -- if my experience is
any indication -- I don't imagine you'll have a problem dealing
with them.
The prices are certainly good. They also seem like decent
people, and sometimes know what they're talking about.
Chris
Christopher Smith, Perl Developer
Amdocs - Champaign, IL
/usr/bin/perl -e '
print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n");
'
On Feb 11, 18:23, Tothwolf wrote:
> There are also Differential versions of Fast, Ultra, Wide, and
Ultra-Wide.
> These use a "high voltage" (+-12VDC IIRC) signaling that is *NOT*
> compatible with standard devices.
That's not correct. Normal differential, sometimes called high voltage
differential to distinguish it from LVDS still uses 5V, same as
single-ended. It uses thresholds of 2V and 3V, zero-referenced, with a
resistive divider asthe terminator, 150 ohms from ground to signal-, 150
ohms from +V (termpower supply) to signal+, and 330 ohms between signal-
and signal+.
> You will literally fry any non HVD
> devices if you connect a HVD drive to the same bus. Ultra2 and newer have
> a Low Voltage Differential bus
Similar to normal differential but based on 3.3V instead of 5V, and the
maximum bus length is halved.
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Network Manager
University of York
Sridhar,
I have a RS-6000 keyboard that you can use. And I'm in Orlando. My
keyboard was good the last time I used it but that was several years ago.
Joe
At 07:12 PM 2/10/02 -0500, you wrote:
>
>Hi people. I am in need of an RS/6000 keyboard. I need it soon, though.
>It doesn't have to be a permanent arrangement (like a sale or something),
>it just needs to be a loaner. I am in St. Petersburg, FL at Dave
>McGuire's place.
>
>Peace... Sridhar
>
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I have a connundrum. I want to thin out my collection of computer artifacts
and I'm having problems on what to part with. I also could use the money.
Instead, even in the middle of nowhere, far from Toronto where I accumulated
all this stuff, I find it growing. The problem isn't lack of space as it once was,
but simply to have a manageable hobby.
I admit, I'm a packrat, and I transported most of my treasures 2000 mi.
shedding replaceable things like couches, beds and appliances justifying
that in my waning years I could dribble-sell them off to supplement my
pension. (even that huge Dumont tube scope that had been refused as
a gift by a list member, shipping would be ridiculous.)
Plus the idea of a small computer museum (a Toronto one had once been
a justification) in the center of the continent in a totally unexpected
environment had some appeal.
I don't want to go the route of a massive sell-off like several list-members
did, but clearly I have to take control of this addiction. My first fix was
only to have a couple of Ataris to supplement what was already becoming
a fixation. Then home computers, then CP/M, and you all know the downward
spiral. Thenks got, I never got hooked on minis.
I just went thru my collection and each time I contemplated selling
something off I came up with a valid(?) reason not to. My SCO manuals
because they give a good exposition of UNIX and I MIGHT want to
install it on one of my boxes, an old 83 business computing text
cause it had a pic of my prized Micom system, another text from 73
that had pictures of card processing equipment that I once worked on.
Numerous programming how-to's cause I really have to get beyond hardware
hacking, and then things like do I really need 2 Kaypros or the H89 I'm going
to repair some day. And why in-hell do I have "Lex and YACC", Odysys
Development", Computes 1984 "Guide to Adventure Games". Do I really
need most of the PS/2s as well as several PS/1s for my IBM collection ?
You get the picture.
Sure I have things like my Apple IIc LCD display and DRI GEM volume
I could sell off for wanted cash, but I WANT to keep them.
How do YOU limit your collection when you aren't a Sellam, John Keys
and others with warehouse space. Seriously. It must be a problem that
many of you have made a decision on, even when it wasn't your S.O.
giving an ultimatum. Any guidelines ? Be stern.
Lawrence
Reply to:
lgwalker(a)mts.net
StarLink: I have one unopened package of StarLink.
Information from the package:
" Introducing StarLink the computer expansion system. The system lets you link four "dumb" terminals or microcomputers to a single IBM Personal Computer, and function as if it's the only terminal connected to the computer."
Features:
- Four operating ports
- Onboard 8088 Microprocessor and 64K RAM
- Concurrent PC=DOS
- Shared Data Files
- Intersystems Communications
I am looking to sell this product. Any interest?
Norm
Joe,
Sorry I couldn't make the show.
While I don't have any micromint specific documentation, there's a good
chance I have some of the docs for the STD-BUS computer. Get the numbers off
the cards and I'll see what I have.
The STD BUS supports all kinds of processors. I have seen systems with
processors ranging from a 4004 up to a 486. The most common seem to be Z80
based. What processor is in your system?
The systems fall into two general categories. Dedicated controllers with
task specific operating systems and general purpose computers. If it's a
dedicated system, the OS would be burned in ROM and be of limited use
without reprogramming. If it's a general purpose computer, it would most
likely run CPM or DOS. If it's a CPM based system and you didn't get any
disks, finding a version of CPM that'll run can be a real challenge.
I think you should hand the machine off to someone that specializes in STD
BUS hardware <grin>.
Speaking of Daisy Wheel printers... I prefer to use a daisy wheel for
printing plain text stuff. Currently, I have a DIABLO 630 and am having real
difficulty talking to it. Seems like when I try to print anything, I get
buffer overruns, the wrong chatracters printed, and all kind of other
errors. I have tried every possible combination of comm settings, flow
control, etc... to no avail. Does anyone know where I can find the specs for
setup and handshaking for this printer.
See ya,
SteveRob
>From: Joe <rigdonj(a)cfl.rr.com>
>Reply-To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
>To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
>Subject: THE best find of the weekend!
>Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2002 19:20:14 -0500
>
>Besides that nice trinket I also got two Gould logic analyzers, a
>MicroMint Std-bus computer... <CLIP>
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Hey.
Along the lines of last week's "specialty" thread, I'm kind of curious
where the various members (including and especially lurkers) live.
Maybe more to the point, where our various machines and parts dumps
reside....
I've managed so far never to touch a database, but this strikes me as
an interesting-enough and simple-enough first project. I'm interested
in listing and correlating several things:
Skillset resources - who knows what, where. For instance, if I had an
Amiga with catweasel hardware and I knew Grumpy ol' Fred lived 30 miles
away, I might just drive out one Saturday, set it up, and learn
something. Or whatever.
Collections. Who has what, where. I travel nationwide (when there's
work to do, that is), and if I know a list-member lives in the area I'll
be in, I might arrange to see their collection, or even do some very
rare face-to-face trading.
Commercial regional and local parts and components resources. Most of
us seem to have pet electronics suppliers in our areas.
Wish lists. Who _wants_ what, where.
What do we do when we're not playing with very old toys? (Yeah, I
know. Look for older toys)
We could do this as an online db, although I doubt that we'd want a
lot of it public.
Comments?
Doc
In a message dated 2/11/2002 8:35:34 PM Eastern Standard Time,
normanalcott(a)worldnet.att.net writes:
<< StarLink: I have one unopened package of StarLink.
Information from the package: >>
I think I have this setup as well with software called 10link or something
like that. Isnt it just ethernet?
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On Mon, 11 Feb 2002, Jeff Hellige wrote:
> > > But as you pointed out, it will slow it down. My boot hard
> >> disk is a wide SCSI drive, so I'd just as soon not have it drop back
> >> to the SCSI-2 speed of the interface for my scanner, which is an
> >> older Relisys Infinity Scorpio. I also use the narrow interface for
> >> checking out smaller (40MB-1GB) SCSI hard disks that I pick up.
> >
> >A narrow device *will not* slow down a wide bus.
>
> Ok, you're telling me that if I have:
>
> - a wide SCSI adapter, such as an Adapter 2940U2B, running at
> 40mhz and I have the adapter set to SCSI ID# 7
> - a wide SCSI hard disk, such as an IBM DDRS-39130D, set at
> SCSI ID# 0 and also running at 40mhz
>
> The above settings are the default ID# for the 2940U2B and
> ID# 0 is the factory default for the boot drive on the Macintosh both
> are installed in. 15 total SCSI ID#'s available on the 2940U2B.
>
> That if I add a narrow SCSI hard disk, take your pick,
> running at the fast-SCSI rate of 10mhz, that it won't slow the wide
> SCSI bus down? That goes contrary to what I've seen and I've seen
> plenty of narrow drives have a problem running on a bus that much
> faster. That's why Adaptec's PowerDomain Control software allows you
> to manually tailor the bus speed to try and find a happy medium for
> all the devices you have on the bus.
You're adding another variable. You're adding a disk at *10MHz*. If you
add a narrow disk at *40MHz* then it won't slow down the SCSI bus.
Peace... Sridhar
> I'm not trying to be argumentative, but if I'm
> misunderstanding something, and have been for quite a long time if
> that's the case, I'd like to be corrected.
>
> Jeff
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sellam Ismail [mailto:foo@siconic.com]
> Help them out. Point them to Google. Problem solved.
Well, yes and no. Actually this list has been infinitely more
helpful to me in recent months than google. :) ISTR, veronica,
last I used it, was as helpful as google is now, at least. That's
without nearly so much crap to sift through, too.
Chris
Christopher Smith, Perl Developer
Amdocs - Champaign, IL
/usr/bin/perl -e '
print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n");
'
Hi,
Not quite 10-years old, but...
I've misplaced the software development kit (SDK) for my
OnHandPC (the 16-bit DOS computer on a watch).
www.onhandpc.com apparently died, and the domain is now a porn site
(no, not "digital", as in the recent thread :)
www.matsucom.com apparently also died, and is parked.
Does anyone have a copy? (Basically, Cygnus gcc with header
files and (IIRC) a translation/reformatting program.)
BTW, you can allegedly buy an OnHandPC from "shoplite" at:
http://www.shoplite.com/onhand.htm
for $225.
thanks,
Stan
Stan Sieler sieler(a)allegro.com
www.allegro.com/sieler/wanted/index.htmlwww.allegro.com/sieler
Is anyone here familiar with a RK05 tester? Any idea exactly what it is,
and what it is capable of testing? I'm looking into possibly buying one.
-Lawrence LeMay
