test-drb

test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org

101090 discussions

by aek＠spies.com

Last weekl someone was asking about the greatest number of bit slice CPUs that they'd ever seen on a card. I know this isn't the record but today I picked up two card with six 2901s on them. The surprise is that there's also an 8008 on the same card! -- Sounds like some sort of 24 bit processor (SEL ?) DEC floating point processor boards for the 11/34 and 44 have a bunch.

24 years, 2 months

"Programmer's Panel" for disk drives

by Innfogra＠aol.com

Magnetic Peripherals made the CDC 9" drive line 9715 IIRC. Could be a tester for that. Look at the cables. They should be SMD. (26 pin & 60 Pin) I think it is worth saving but I have none of the drives any more. Paxton Astoria, OR

24 years, 2 months

The most bit slice CPUs on one card

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

24 years, 2 months

Freight again

by csmith＠amdocs.com

Hi guys. I'm seriously considering (to the point of looking for a shipping arrangement) picking up that Prime system that was offered here recently. Any ideas? The system is in Waltham Mass, and I'm in Champaign, IL. I'd love to hear from somebody going this direction sometime soon, otherwise, what is a good shipping company to use? I would have to arrange pickup and delivery, myself, which I've never done before, so assume I know nothing about this. Also, U-Haul probably isn't a desirable option. :) Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

24 years, 2 months

Dumpster in the alley.

by Robert_Feldman＠jdedwards.com

Location: Chicago, Illinois, Wabash and Lake Streets, behind Harold Washington College. What: a 20 foot construction dumpster being loaded at this moment (8:00 AM CST) with PC's, mainly PS/2 30's and 50's. They're literally tossing them into the dumpster. :( Bob

24 years, 2 months

Hubbell twist-lock connectors

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

Oh boy! What did I do! I was just trying to make up an example of dumb-ass electricians! At least this thread does relate to Classic Computer Collecting... --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 90581 Mac OS X 10.1.2 - Darwin Kernel Version 5.2: Fri Dec 7 21:39:35 PST 2001 Running since 01/22/2002 without a crash > ---------- > From: r. 'bear' stricklin > > On Tue, 12 Feb 2002, Tothwolf wrote: > > > You won't find a 16A breaker in a branch circuit. You'd likely see a 15A > > breaker (residential, probably 14Ga, maybe 12Ga wire), or a 20A breaker > > (12Ga or 10Ga wire). A 15A circuit would not be safe at all, while a 20A > > *might* be ok, but the system could still overload the receptacle and > plug > > since they are still only rated for 15A. > > Wait a minute, isn't the only physical difference between NEMA 5-15 (110V, > 15A) and 5-20 (110V, 20A) that one pin is rotated 90 degrees? In this > case, since residential electrical code would mandate wiring capable of > delivering 20A service on a circuit protected by a 20A breaker, wouldn't > you say that the principle reason for NEMA 5-20 existing be to prevent > user error more than anything else? > > ok > r. > >

24 years, 2 months

Hubbell twist-lock connectors

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: r. 'bear' stricklin [mailto:red@bears.org] > Wait a minute, isn't the only physical difference between > NEMA 5-15 (110V, > 15A) and 5-20 (110V, 20A) that one pin is rotated 90 degrees? In this > case, since residential electrical code would mandate wiring > capable of > delivering 20A service on a circuit protected by a 20A > breaker, wouldn't > you say that the principle reason for NEMA 5-20 existing be to prevent > user error more than anything else? Who's to say that all wiring is done in a manner compliant with residential electric code? ;) It's better to be safe, especially where electricity is concerned. Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

24 years, 2 months

Dumpster in the alley. (Chicago)

by Robert_Feldman＠jdedwards.com

I went back downstairs at about 9:00, and a trash picker was _tossing_ PC's into the bed of his beat-up pickup, which he had backed up next to the dumpster. Went back out at 11:00, and the dumpster had been hauled away. Probably land fill by now :( Bob -----Original Message----- From: Tothwolf [mailto:tothwolf@concentric.net] Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 2:36 PM To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org Subject: Re: Dumpster in the alley. (Chicago) On Tue, 12 Feb 2002, Julius Sridhar wrote: > On Tue, 12 Feb 2002 CARL.P.HIRSCH(a)sargentlundy.com wrote: > > > It's a shame they're 286's and can't even run Linux... > > They are 286's and they *can* run Linux? Anyway, these aren't your > everyday standard piece-o-shit PC's. AT the very least, some of the MCA boards, drives, memory, and power supplies could be useful to some people. Hrm, that's nearly a complete system isn't it? ;) -Toth

24 years, 2 months

great site

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: John Allain [mailto:allain@panix.com] > > ...The web information is stale... > - - - > > ...{items were} trashed internally. > > ...There was a shipping mix-up on that item > > ...Needless to say, it wouldn't power up when I got it > > ...They're a little slow in responding. > Let's see... > The item was broken, misdelivered Again, this wasn't exactly their fault, and they did do their best to fix the problem with the indy, which is likely to have been caused by shipping. In the other case, I purchased the LD player with the understanding that since they had no LDs to check it, I had to buy it as is. > and service was poor (slow). Slow... can't argue with that, but having worked with volunteer organizations in the past, I can understand that they're likely to be way understaffed. I wouldn't equate slow service with poor service, though. > What's _Your_ time worth, anyway? Whatever I make of it. As I said, the misdelivery was probably an exceptional case. I'm satisfied that they did their best to correct the problem, and I'm certainly willing to try them again. Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

24 years, 2 months

Freight again

by ceby2＠csc.com

Chris -- Ping me off list, I might be able to help at least for loading. My office is in Waltham. Regards, Colin Eby Senior Consultant CSC Consulting

24 years, 2 months

Hubbell twist-lock connectors

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Tothwolf [mailto:tothwolf@concentric.net] > On Tue, 12 Feb 2002, Christopher Smith wrote: > > Well, isn't the breaker on the SGI desksides 16A? > It is, but I don't think I want to push the limits that close. Well, me neither, but the point is that if your wire will handle it, most houses have 20A breakers. :) Chances are it would be ok on a 16A dedicated line, or a nominally 15A circuit with nothing else plugged in. (depending on wiring, of course) > You won't find a 16A breaker in a branch circuit. You'd > likely see a 15A Well, what I meant here was a dedicated circuit designed to carry 16A, which likely would (obviously) have a breaker that's rated higher... I have encountered them in a couple of houses before, usually for air conditioning, refrigerators, etc. > *might* be ok, but the system could still overload the > receptacle and plug > since they are still only rated for 15A. True enough -- unless they aren't. > SGI actually rated these systems for a dedicated 20A branch circuit. At any rate, that's probably the safest way to go. Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

24 years, 2 months

T2200SX HardDrive setup in cmos

by mrgray＠gil.com.au

I have put an 120mb HDD in my T2200sx an the cmos can not see it. Can anyone help me

24 years, 2 months

Hubbell twist-lock connectors

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

> ---------- > From: Robert F Schaefer > > >> ---------- > >> From: Robert F Schaefer > >> > >> > You want to know why this message subject immediately jumped out > >> > an grabbed my attention? > >> > My Wife is the Grainger/National Accounts Coordinator for Hubbell > >> > wiring devices. She's one of the people who tell dumb-*** > >> > electricians that you can't use a 15 amp plug in a 30 amp circuit... > >> > >> Hey! I *don't* resemble that remark. In my experience, it's commonly > >> the > >> > >> owner or the equipment mfgr with their head up their a$$. I've seen > >> some scarey stuff in my few years in the trade. (And you can put a > >> 15 amp plug > >> > >> on a 30 amp circuit-- see NFPA 70 (2002) article 210.21(B)(3) > >> exception no. > >> 2 --not that it comes up often!) > > (After I looked that over again, it reads like I might be pissed-- that's > not the case!) > ---Nah, I knew you weren't pissed. After I wrote it, I realized that I might be a little off in that example... :-) > > Bob --- > > I know, I'm sure you don't :-). But there _are_ some electricians > > out there, who are, well, *out there*. > > I know-- I work with him... ^_^ > > > As for that "15 amp plug - 30 amp circuit" thing, you're right, I > > pulled that example out of my ass [1], but she has dealt with many > > idiot customers trying to do things that are _very_ asinine. I'm > > surprised that some of them haven't managed to kill themselves yet. > > Some people are alive just because it's illegal to stand by and watch them > > kill themselves. It's amazing that some of these people manage to > remember > to breath every day. > > `Don't put your finger in there.' `Ok.' `Don't put your finger in > there.' `Ok.' `Don't put your finger in there.' `Ok.' **BZZZAP** `What > > happened?' `I put my finger in there.' > > I sure hope I don't get killed trying to save some moron. I'll be cursing > > all the way to h#ll if I do. > > Bob > ---"Doc, it hurts when I do this!" "So don't do that!" > > > > [1] Yep. That shows that I can do the wiring in the house, I just don't > > design it without a little reference nearby. :-) > > > > --- David A Woyciesjes > > --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 90581 Mac OS X 10.1.2 - Darwin Kernel Version 5.2: Fri Dec 7 21:39:35 PST 2001 Running since 01/22/2002 without a crash

24 years, 2 months

Dumpster in the alley. (Chicago)

by CARL.P.HIRSCH＠sargentlundy.com

It's a shame they're 286's and can't even run Linux... Bob, I'm wondering if I can hit you up for resources here in Chicago. I've lived here for about 2 years and haven't come across any good tech resources. I'm hoping you can point me to some of the various resellers, corporate liquidators, junk shops, and scrappers where good stuff might be found in the Chicagoland area. I'm looking for stuff to rescue as well as raw material for art. Also - HAMFESTS. Are there any hamfests in the area this year? Are hamfests in chicago likely to have much non-radio content? thanks much, -carl "Feldman, Robert" <Robert_Feldman@jdedw To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org ards.com> cc: Sent by: Subject: Dumpster in the alley. owner-classiccmp@clas siccmp.org 02/12/02 07:58 AM Please respond to classiccmp Location: Chicago, Illinois, Wabash and Lake Streets, behind Harold Washington College. What: a 20 foot construction dumpster being loaded at this moment (8:00 AM CST) with PC's, mainly PS/2 30's and 50's. They're literally tossing them into the dumpster. :( Bob

24 years, 2 months

NSA 3270/Elite Terminal Emulator

by lgwalker＠mts.net

I have an NSA 3270/Elite sleeve/binder with 3 disks that I haven't got a clue about. Of course I could RTFM but any attempt so far has escaped me. I'm trying to determine if I could use it for something, sell it on E-Pay for BIG BUCKs, offer it to the list, or bury it in my obscure,likely of no use bin. Any illumination would be helpful and appreciated. Lawrence Reply to: lgwalker(a)mts.net

24 years, 2 months

Hubbell twist-lock connectors

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

> ---------- > From: Robert F Schaefer > > > You want to know why this message subject immediately jumped out and > > grabbed my attention? > > My Wife is the Grainger/National Accounts Coordinator for Hubbell > > wiring devices. She's one of the people who tell dumb-*** electricians > > that you can't use a 15 amp plug in a 30 amp circuit... > > Hey! I *don't* resemble that remark. In my experience, it's commonly the > > owner or the equipment mfgr with their head up their a$$. I've seen some > scarey stuff in my few years in the trade. (And you can put a 15 amp plug > > on a 30 amp circuit-- see NFPA 70 (2002) article 210.21(B)(3) exception > no. > 2 --not that it comes up often!) > > Bob > > > > > --- David A Woyciesjes > Bob --- I know, I'm sure you don't :-). But there _are_ some electricians out there, who are, well, *out there*. As for that "15 amp plug - 30 amp circuit" thing, you're right, I pulled that example out of my ass [1], but she has dealt with many idiot customers trying to do things that are _very_ asinine. I'm surprised that some of them haven't managed to kill themselves yet. [1] Yep. That shows that I can do the wiring in the house, I just don't design it without a little reference nearby. :-) --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 90581 Mac OS X 10.1.2 - Darwin Kernel Version 5.2: Fri Dec 7 21:39:35 PST 2001 Running since 01/22/2002 without a crash

24 years, 2 months

OT: SCSI HDD help?

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

Yes, this is Off Topic, but since you're all knowledgeable, and packrats... Probably should keep this off-list too... I have a Quantum Viking 3.5" SCSI-2 HDD, SCA-80 connector, P/N 4550S VK45J012 REV 03-C K8600. It seems to spin up okay, but ARC setup on my DEC Alpha doesn't see it. The biggest chip on the board, probably the controller, gets to a temperature that seems way hotter than it should be. Well, compared to another Quantum 4.5GB Viking drive. Question is, can just the controller board be replaced? Does anyone have one? or is this toast? --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 90581 Mac OS X 10.1.2 - Darwin Kernel Version 5.2: Fri Dec 7 21:39:35 PST 2001 Running since 01/22/2002 without a crash

24 years, 2 months

Hubbell twist-lock connectors

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

You want to know why this message subject immediately jumped out and grabbed my attention? My Wife is the Grainger/National Accounts Coordinator for Hubbell wiring devices. She's one of the people who tell dumb-*** electricians that you can't use a 15 amp plug in a 30 amp circuit... --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 90581 Mac OS X 10.1.2 - Darwin Kernel Version 5.2: Fri Dec 7 21:39:35 PST 2001 Running since 01/22/2002 without a crash > ---------- > From: Tothwolf > > I'm sure there are other folks on the list that have systems that use > twist-lock connectors, so I am posting here before I contact a surplus > company to work out a trade. > > I have the following Hubbell twist-lock connectors that are surplus to my > needs: > > Qty Description Hubbell Part # > NEMA > 4 125V 30A Insulgrip Plug HBL2611 > L5-30P > 3 125V/250V 20A Insulgrip Plug HBL9965C > N/A > 1 125V/250V 20A Insulgrip Flanged Receptacle HBL3326C > N/A > 1 125V/250V 30A Insulgrip Plug HBL3331C > N/A > 1 125V/250V 30A Insulgrip Flanged Inlet HBL3334C > N/A > 1 125V/250V 30A Insulgrip Flanged Receptacle HBL3335C > N/A > 2 125V 15A/250V 10A Insulgrip Plug [Not UL Listed] HBL7567C > N/A > > I am looking for these connectors to get power to my old SGI systems: > > Qty Description Hubbell Part # > NEMA > 2 125V 20A Insulgrip Plug HBL2311 > L5-20P > 3 125V 20A Insulgrip Connector Body HBL2313 > L5-20R > 4 125V 20A Single Flush Receptacle HBL2310 > L5-20R > 2 250V 30A Insulgrip Plug HBL2621 > L6-30P > 2 250V 30A Insulgrip Connector Body HBL2623 > L6-30R > 3 250V 30A Single Flush Receptacle HBL2620 > L6-30R > > Hubbell twist-lock catalog: > http://www.hubbell-wiring.com/new/sectionb.pdf > > If anyone wants to make a trade, email me directly. > > -Toth > >

24 years, 2 months

Dumpster in the alley.

by PasserM＠umkc.edu

How do you think it got its name? (Sorry, couldn't resist.) >They had adult theaters on Wacker Street?

24 years, 2 months

Ancient "toy computer"

by acme_ent＠bellsouth.net

Okay, in order to pose this question I have to come clean here and admit my age: Right around 1960 or '61 (I was five or six years old at the time) I was given a toy computer. I suppose it was meant to represent a mainframe (what else could it have been, given the era?) and there was a rectangular (4 x 8? 5 X 7?) array of blinkenlights on the front of it. There was also a tray in the front which accepted a small punched card. A set of these cards came with the toy. Each card had a multiple-choice question printed on it, as well as four answers to choose from, numbered A through D. Additional card sets could be purchased separately. When a card was placed into the tray and the tray was then closed, the blinkenlights would display a "random" pattern for a couple of seconds (always the same pattern) and then the array would display the correct answer to the printed question, A B C or D. It didn't take long for me to be able to read the holes in the cards, and I even "modified" a couple of them so that the toy displayed an incorrect answer. Does *anyone* remember this thing? It must have cost a few bucks back then. What was it called? Glen 0/0

24 years, 2 months

OT: But too funny...

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Marvin Johnston [mailto:marvin@rain.org] > Douglas Quebbeman wrote: > > Seriously, Outlook isn't the source of the stated problems; > half-assed, > > self-taught, sycophantic sysadmins who can't secure their > systems are! > Is that true, or has network management gotten to the point that it > takes the equivilent of a PhD to be able to manage the thing? Actually, no, but it's a combination of some things: The software that's mandated for use in most companies (by people who have too much authority in the company and no idea what they're doing...) is terrible, and hard to manage. The people being hired to run networks these days only know how to "use" this terrible software, leaving anything that isn't garbage to be either neglected or outsourced. (usually the former...) People don't expect decent performance from their systems, because of the aforementioned terrible software, and so points one and two continue. Well, that's what _I_ think it is... Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

24 years, 2 months

Hubbell twist-lock connectors

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: David Woyciesjes [mailto:DAW@yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu] > You want to know why this message subject immediately > jumped out and > grabbed my attention? > My Wife is the Grainger/National Accounts Coordinator > for Hubbell > wiring devices. She's one of the people who tell dumb-*** > electricians that > you can't use a 15 amp plug in a 30 amp circuit... Well, um, I suppose you _could_ do it, if you didn't mind toasting the connector, and possibly some other stuff in the process :) Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

24 years, 2 months

Wanted: Empty SCSI SCA-80 RAID tower...

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

> ---------- > From: Eric Dittman > > > So, to see if I understand you correctly... > > > > - The SBB is the tray for the HDD... > > The SBB is "Storage Building Block", with the storage element inside. > Okay, a simple "yes" would've worked... ;-) > > - The SBBs for use in the 350, have a 50 pin connector, none have the > SCA... > > Yes. The BA350 and BA356 have the same backplane connector, but the > wide SBBs can not be seen when installed in a BA350. However, narrow > SBBs can be used in a BA356. > Not surprised... > > -- If so, I wonder if there is room inside the tray to fit a SCA > 80-50pin > > adapter? > > Usually not. There isn't much room in the 3.5" SBBs. Maybe, if the > SCA converter was real small, it may fit. > Hmmm, bummer... <<<<<clip>>>>> > > -If I want to use narrow SCA-80 drives in a Digital Storage Shelf, I > should > > look for the 356 and SBBs for that? > > It would be easier. With a BA356 you can use a BA35X-MG narrow > personality module if you want to connect to a narrow SCSI bus > or use a wide-narrow external SCSI cable. The only drawback > (which may not be an issue for you) is the HSxY0 raid controllers > don't work well with a wide-narrow external cable. > -- > Alright, thanks for the info, Eric. Well, I do have a (so far) winning bid of $6.00 on a BA-350. I wonder if that's what it really is... I'll see what I can find for SBBs for it ( has only 2 power supplies). If I can't use it, no big loss. Alternatively, I've been thinking about just converting a PC case to a drive tower, and just have a pile o' disks. And if I want some RAID, use software RAID. Yes, this is personal use. I'd never suggest software RAID in a business... It'd be a shame to see 7 good 1GB HDDs go to waste... --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 90581 Mac OS X 10.1.2 - Darwin Kernel Version 5.2: Fri Dec 7 21:39:35 PST 2001 Running since 01/22/2002 without a crash

24 years, 2 months

Classic Comp UUCP network.

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Doc [mailto:doc@mdrconsult.com] > FWIW, I got curious. Everyone has been mentioning FidoNet > in the past > tense, and I just did work 2 years ago for a guy who was > trying hard to > get me into it. I just looked, and there are 8 active Fido dialups in > Austin. Yep, it's probably still going. :) Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

24 years, 2 months

[Maybe OT] A/UX installation

by bdwheele＠indiana.edu

I think A/UX 3.0 is only 7 years old, so its not really on topic, but it _is_ dead, so that has to account for something! I recently downloaded the CD image of the A/UX 3.0.1 installation CD & a boot disk from http://home.earthlink.net/~gamba2/syslist.html I got the boot disk extracted (it was a diskcopy_image) and the CD image itself was gzipped. I gunzipped it on my linux box and burned it onto a CD with: cdrecord -speed 8 -dev 0,6,0 -eject -v AUX_3.0.1_Install.toast_image When I try to boot up on a IIci, the floppy works ok, and it starts to search for the CD in the CD drive. The cd drive is a toshiba 5401B, I pulled from an alpha. It never finds a valid disk. So, to try to figure out what was wrong, I used BasiliskII (a mac-on-unix emulation) and tried to mount the CD image as a disk under system 7.6...and it wanted to format it. Should the CD be mountable? With this bit of experimentation, it looks like the CD image isn't right. Any ideas? Thanks! Brian Wheeler bdwheele(a)indiana.edu

24 years, 2 months

Jump to page:

2026

2025

2024

2023

2022

2021

2020

2019

2018

2017

2016

2015

2014

2013

2012

2011

2010

2009

2008

2007

2006

2005

2004

2003

2002

2001

2000

1999

1998

1997

test-drb