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OT: Red Green (was..3M Super Strength Adhevise SUCKS!)

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> PBS (Pretty Bogus System) shows it, one channel shows the ^^^ Petroleum Broadcasting System... ;)

24 years, 2 months

Rant about cars and how stupid the world is with stupid people running it

by fauradon＠beckman.com

I'm breaking the law and responding from work. This is probably full of HTML too but hey here goes. <RANT> I can think of something more stupid than DRL and that is to use the friggin' parking lights as DRL.OK repeat after me PARKING LIGHT, PARKING LIGHT. I can see the use of DRL for safety reasons but for bob's sake don't use the parking lights. Actually nobody ever use these when they should. I like the idea of DRL because there are way too many morrons that believe that if they can see where they are going they can be seen or maybe they just don't believe that they need to be seen. I'll stop here since this is not a driving forum But leave them friggin' parking lights for parking damnit! </RANT> Have a nice day Francois >Day-time running lights are a conspiracy by the headlight industry to sell >more headlights. > >I can't think of anything more stupid at the moment.? If you can't see a >car in the daylight with or without it's headlights on, YOU SHOULD NOT BE >ALLOWED TO DRIVE!!!

24 years, 2 months

FT: Qbus SCSI Controllers available FT

by dec.parts＠verizon.net

The following Qbus SCSI controllers are available for trade. Some combination of AD, DA, or Parallel interfaces might be acceptable. Other reasonable trades might also be considered. Will ship internationallly. If you have anything interesting enough, I might be willing to pick up all the shipping costs both ways, even internationally. mailto:dec.parts@verizon.net NOTE: Excerpt from ClassicCmp FAQ - Part 2 2.4 Can I post advertisements? Sure. As long as they're related to _classic_ computers. Aviv_QSA_50-1276_Rev_F1 http://www.analog-and-digital-solutions.com/dec/Aviv_QSA_50-1276_Rev_F1_.jpg Dilog_SQ706_Rev_A http://www.analog-and-digital-solutions.com/dec/Dilog_SQ706_Rev_A_.jpg Emulex_UC07_10401-01_Rev_F http://www.analog-and-digital-solutions.com/dec/Emulex_UC07_10401-01_Rev_F_… Emulex_UC07_10405-00_Rev_D_SN-BBH5341 http://www.analog-and-digital-solutions.com/dec/Emulex_UC07_10405-00_Rev_D_… Emulex_UC07_10405-00_Rev_D_SN-BBH5402 http://www.analog-and-digital-solutions.com/dec/Emulex_UC07_10405-00_Rev_D_… MTI_QTS25_Rev_D http://www.analog-and-digital-solutions.com/dec/MTI_QTS25_Rev_D_.jpg

24 years, 2 months

HP Cxxx drive rails, & moulding plastic

by timwa＠snowgoons.fsnet.co.uk

Tothwolf wrote: >> The easy question is, "does anyone have any spare rails they can sell >> me," so I'll ask it anyway but I'm not expecting a yes <grin>. I >> suspect these things are like hens' teeth, and HP no longer make them >> apparently. > What do these look like? I've got piles of rails I'll likely never use, > but I wouldn't know HP rails from another type... I haven't examined one in detail myself yet, but I'll try and describe them :-). They are basically black plastic strips, about the same length as the drive they attach to. They are around 1cm wide and prob. around 4mm thick. The plastic strip screws to the side of the drive, so that the drive can then slide into metal rails in the HP drive cage. At one end of the strip is a tab which locks into holes on either side of the drive cage holding the drive into position - you release the drive by pushing the two tabs in at the side and then sliding the drive out. I'll try and point the old IndyCam at one of them tonight and get a picture! Cheers, Tim. -- Tim Walls at home in Croydon - Reply to tim(a)snowgoons.fsnet.co.uk

24 years, 2 months

Destructive charities (was: STAPLES STORES...)

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: John Chris Wren [mailto:jcwren@jcwren.com] > To me, that's like driving a model-T, and not being > able to go on the > expressway because it doesn't go over 40 MPH. And the only > reason you're > driving it is because it's "repairable". Not because it's an > antique or > collectable, or a family hierloom. No, it's more like driving a cobra that everyone thinks is a model-t. Yes, obviously they're too stupid to realize that 20 or more years of age doesn't mean that it's useless. :) No it doesn't have all of the "safety" features of newer cars, but just don't crash and you'll be fine ;) Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

24 years, 2 months

misc boards in with some Amiga stuff

by ghldbrd＠ccp.com

My partner in crime came up with a bunch of (unknown condition) Amiga Zorro boards . . . . Two we couldn't identify: --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- PC video card (8 bit ISA), 6.5" long, has RGB VIDEO & COMPUTER VM-1 silk screened in the upper LH corner. Has 5 BNC jacks on backplate, 2 Zilog IC's (Z80 and Z85C300???), and two DIP switch banks (8 ea). Also has a short 10 cond. ribbon cable going to a DB9F on a card bracket. (CGA/EGA monitor??) I'm guessing it may be a CGA/EGA card with BNC outs for the early color monitors..5 jacks --------> R,G,B, H & V sync??? No markings on card bracket. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Second card looks like it may be a PC board TBC: Digital Processing Systems 743-750 USX rev 1. Also has MADE IN CANADA. No FCC number to xref. 4 phono (RCA) jacks on the back, and one center off toggle switch, spring loaded. Your guess is as good as mine. Gary Hildebrand ST. JOseph, MO

24 years, 2 months

qbus memory M7639

by fernande＠internet1.net

Hello, I just received a package today of 4 qbus cards, that I purchased via Ebay. Two of the cards are memory, one of which I have just slid into my Vax 3400, and "show mem" displays it's presence just fine. I now have 52 megs of ram installed. My question is about this M7639 board. The Field Guide lists it as 64 megs of Qbus memory. It has a different connector, that what my ribbon cable in my 3400 uses. Is this for a Vax, or something else? The Field Guide has a "DS" listed, is that a DEC Station? I was hoping I could use this in my 3400! Chad Fernandez Michigan, USA

24 years, 2 months

OT Quad audio amps (was: cleaning pots on my vintage audio amp)

by acme_ent＠bellsouth.net

> From: Chad Fernandez <fernande(a)internet1.net> > I don't think I've ever used the headphone jack..... I don't have any > headphones :-) It's been a long time since I've used them often..... > usually when I was young (mid to late 80's) listening to the radio, when > I was supposed to be sleeping :-) I use 'em when I'm recording overdubs, and also when my wife is asleep ;>) [re fisher 404] > Do you have a picture of it? I'd love to see it. Quadraphonic > Equipment is something I've never seen at Goodwill. Either most people > got rid of it long ago, or people are hanging on to it. It's pretty plain-looking -- just a box with some knobs and sliders, and a joystick in the middle. We don't use it for quad at the present -- we have a pair of Bose 501s hung off it, and the sound is great, although you couldn't tell by looking at it ;>) Some day I'll convince Deb that we should make use of the quad and buy (or build) four new cabinets, and I'll move the 501s to my studio :>) Glen 0/0

24 years, 2 months

OT: Rant about cars and how stupid the world is with stupid people running it

by mythtech＠Mac.com

>Day-time running lights are a conspiracy by the headlight industry to sell >more headlights. > >I can't think of anything more stupid at the moment. If you can't see a >car in the daylight with or without it's headlights on, YOU SHOULD NOT BE >ALLOWED TO DRIVE!!! The original intent of them was to make sure people had headlights on at dusk, dawn, and in poor weather. But many cars have had the light sensors skipped out of designs to save money, meaning the lights stay on all the time instead (and naturally, that money saver is turned into a "feature" so they can charge more for the car). For anyone that routinely deals with cutting wrecked cars off of people... many of these seemingly "conspiracy" safety changes are actually a welcome addition to the standard automobile. Yes... it is true... you need to be pretty stupid to not turn your lights on when it starts to get dark out... but there are an amazing number of stupid people on the road... and stupid people aren't the lives we are trying to save, it is lives of the smart ones the stupid people take. Much like drunk driving laws... we don't give a rats ass about saving the drunks... we get sick of moping the sober people off the highway, and watching the drunks walk away. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

24 years, 2 months

IBM Server 500

by pcautomation＠mindspring.com

I purchased an IBM Server 500 series computer yesterday at a yard sale for only $10.. It's a pentium 90 with 64 RAM, CDROM, 2.88 Floppy drive, and (5 ea. ) 2.25 Gig Wide SCSI-2 hard drive in it. It's a very big case that holds a total of 12 SCSI drives, and a mix of other things. When I got it home I power it up and it booted up up nicely with a Novel 3.12 OS (100) user licence. I was thrilled until the power supply made a pop and , a small Cap must have blown. and now it has no power.. I would have loved to use this as a home server, but I really don't have the knowledge to repair the PS and I really see no real value in this machine other than it's 5 SCSI-2 Wide Hard Drives.. Any Ideas from the experts here.. ?? Phil..

24 years, 2 months

Calling all borgs!!

by rhudson＠cnonline.net

Please! I want your borg lines! I want them to create a new file for "fortune" (of linux/Unix fame) will also post compiled to the list! (I am also copying my other list so they can help out too!) I am Homer Simpson of Borg. Resistance is futile. You will be... ooooohh donuts! Roger Merchberger wrote: > "I am Dyslexus of Borg. Your ass will be laminated." ;-)

24 years, 2 months

Average lifting weight

by csmith＠amdocs.com

Ok, maybe some people with more experience lifting classic hardware can help me out here. I'm definitely going to get that prime that was offered here recently. It looks by the pictures to be about waist-high, but they tell me it's about 600lbs. That sounds heavy to me. :) Out of curiosity, is this normal? Deskside SGIs manage to be much lighter, while being almost as large. Admittedly, that includes a terminal, and a large (8U?) terminal server. I've estimated that stuff at about 100 pounds generously (I think), which leaves 500 in the machine. My question is, does anyone know how many people it takes to lift this comfortably? Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

24 years, 2 months

Tapes for RSX-11M Plus 3.0

by William.King＠dadaboom.com

Well, as a matter of fact, I do. What do you need? Bill

24 years, 2 months

Calling all borgs!!

by mtapley＠swri.edu

Wish I'd seen the video for this one: I'm loBorgus of Cute. Your ass'l be mated, honey. - Mark

24 years, 2 months

ID this SGI keyboard.

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

I'm trying to find a R3k Indigo keyboard for Robert Sandwell in the UK. Yesterday I picked up an SGI keyboard. By buddy Bob who usually knows this stuff says that it's for a PC with a PS/2 port and not for a "real" SGI. But this site <http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:0IHqXFzA1FIC:lists.sunhelp.org/piperma il/rescue/2001-August/024941.html+SGI+keyboard+9500829&hl=en> says that it will work on a R4k Indigo 2. Does anyone know for sure what system it's for? It looks like a standard 101 key PC keyboard and is marked "PN 9500829 U.S. AT-101 keyboard" and has the ten foot long cable exactly as described on the website. Joe

24 years, 2 months

HP Cxxx drive rails, & moulding plastic

by timwa＠snowgoons.fsnet.co.uk

I know HP Cxxx boxes aren't strictly speaking classic, but they will be one day and peeps on here are likely to know the answer :-). I've got an HP C180 and want to fit some more drives, but I'm short of the plastic rails you use to fit them. The easy question is, "does anyone have any spare rails they can sell me," so I'll ask it anyway but I'm not expecting a yes <grin>. I suspect these things are like hens' teeth, and HP no longer make them apparently. So, plan B was to make some myself. I haven't examined one in detail yet, but making a mould should be pretty simple - all I need is some molten plastic and Bob's my uncle... Of course, I haven't ever actually tried anything like this <grin>. Anyone have any recommendations - am I mad to even try this? If not, I'll be after a thermoplastic with a reasonably low melting point (got to be able to melt it on a domestic gas hob![1],) which is easy to handle and sets to a flexible solid (plastic tie-wrap kind of thing.) Is this sort of stuff available to a 'consumer' in a suitable form (eg. chips or powder?) Plan C involves Velcro, but the HP's are so nicely put together it seems a crime to do too much of a botch job :-). Cheers, Tim. [1] Or using my trusty gas soldering iron/blow torch... -- Tim Walls at home in Croydon - Reply to tim(a)snowgoons.fsnet.co.uk

24 years, 2 months

Varian 402 Data Station

by acme_ent＠bellsouth.net

Sellam, can you post a pic? This thing sounds cool (I'm a sucker for oddball eight-bitters). Glen 0/0 ---------- > From: Vintage Computer Festival <vcf(a)vintage.org> > To: Classic Computers Mailing List <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> > Subject: Varian 402 Data Station > Date: Monday, February 18, 2002 3:50 PM > > > I found a Varian 402 Data Station. It's basically a Z80 machine with a > built-in CRT, 2 disk drives, and a thermal printer. It's huge. > > When I fire it up, I get no activity on the CRT, but the thermal printer > goes into a self-test, pauses for a moment, then repeats. It does this > endlessly, so something must be wrong. > > No activity on the disk drives either. > > A Google search turned up nothing useful. > > Anyone have any experience with these things? > > -- > > Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- > International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org > > * Old computing resources for business and academia at www.VintageTech.com * > >

24 years, 2 months

NEC Multisync Color Monitor - $25

by vcf＠vintage.org

I have here an excess NEC MultiSync Color monitor (model JC-1401P3A) that is very useful for the vintage microcomputer enthusiast. It can connect up to pretty much anything--analog, TTL, RGB--with different color modes and depths and stuff. Maximum resolution is 640x480. Here's some specs for it: http://www.griffintechnology.com/monitors/NEC25.html More info regarding capabilities can be found with a web search. Here are two pictures of this unit (front and back respectively): http://siconic.com/computers/multisync1.JPG http://siconic.com/computers/multisync2.JPG Cosmetically it's in decent shape. Of course, it works. I'm asking $25 for it plus shipping. Shipping to the east coast will be around $23, half that to the west coast, and somewhere in the middle for anywhere in between. I'll consider shipping to Canada without thinking about it too much, or internationally if I have time. If there's enough interest, I may have one or two more to sell. -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org * Old computing resources for business and academia at www.VintageTech.com *

24 years, 2 months

IC's

by pat＠purdueriots.com

I just got a butload of IC's from Purdue Salvage, and was wondering if anyone could help me identify a few of the ones I couldn't google a description of. T5650, T5670, T5681. Company logo on chip looks like an X with a P on it, or an italic P with a \ through it to make an X with its stem. All approx 18-pins and DIP (could be 16). 353BN 8-pin DIP National Semiconductor IC L1A3220 44-pin QFP surface mount IC triangle (upside-down delta) logo L3036FN-C 44-pin QFP "ST" logo N8T125 20-pin DIP "SA" logo OMA110 6-pin (optocoupler?) OP27FP 8-pin (OpAmp?) Also if you could point me to a source for data on any of the above, I'd be very greatful. -- Pat

24 years, 2 months

From Scratch?... (was: Radio Shack (Was: STAPLES ....))

by fmc＠reanimators.org

Ron Hudson <rhudson(a)cnonline.net> wrote: > I live in Silicon Valley, and the places to get component > type stuff are dwindling. Radio Shack no longer carries much > of the components they used to. I went into Frys for a 100K > pot the other day (for paddles for an apple II (ob ot)) and > there were NO pots... Radio Shack had various values but not > 100 K. A small hole in the wall was the same (Schad elec- > tronics on 1st street) It's not just you. It's cheaper to manufacture stuff elsewhere now (seen on bottom of iBook: "Designed by Apple in California Assembled in Taiwan") so there are fewer surplus lots of components for these folks to buy cheap and sell dear. The wacky commercial real estate market of the dot-com boom didn't help matters either, it forced some of these folks out of business. Take a look at <http://www.kce.com/junk.htm> for starters. Diffs that I know of: Curtiss Trading Co. is gone. RA Enterprises is gone. Sharon Industries is somewhere else now. Alltronics is apparently mostly web-and-mail order these days, for a while they had moved in with Schad but this appears to have not lasted. Follow the link at the bottom to Bruce Lane's page: <http://www.bluefeathertech.com/technoid/calswap.html>, which has a lot of the same information as on the kce.com page, but you will find that Opinions Vary. Sometimes you really need to go see for yourself. -Frank McConnell

24 years, 2 months

ID this SGI keyboard.

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Joe [mailto:rigdonj@cfl.rr.com] > I'm trying to find a R3k Indigo keyboard for Robert > Sandwell in the UK. > Yesterday I picked up an SGI keyboard. By buddy Bob who > usually knows this > stuff says that it's for a PC with a PS/2 port and not for a > "real" SGI. He doesn't know his SGI, then. Indigo2 and (at least) most SGI desktop systems since have used the PS/2 keyboard and mouse interfaces. I have an Indigo2, myself, and I believe the keyboard and mouse are interchangeable with a peesee (but slightly nicer than normal peesee stuff) > But this site > <http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:0IHqXFzA1FIC:lists.sunhe > lp.org/piperma > il/rescue/2001-August/024941.html+SGI+keyboard+9500829&hl=en> > says that it > will work on a R4k Indigo 2. Does anyone know for sure what ...maybe those used it too... I'm not sure. > system it's > for? It looks like a standard 101 key PC keyboard and is marked "PN They do. Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

24 years, 2 months

Average lifting weight

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk [mailto:ard@p850ug1.demon.co.uk] > Does it come apart at all? Removing PSUs and drives can help a lot. Trying to find that out. :) Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

24 years, 2 months

OT: cars, vettes, & plastic

by Richard.Sandwell＠roebry.co.uk

>>Mike Ford wrote: >>>What was the name of the 70's era plastic car? (no not a vette) It looked >>>kind of like a bigger Delorean, and lasted not as long on the market. Ferrari 308GTB (I think) - plastic for 1 year, in 77. Can't be an Esprit...thats the DeLorean's prototype :-/ Lotus car design maxim - "Add lightness". J. Delorean's answer? "Lets build the mother in Stainless Steel...." //Rich

24 years, 2 months

(UK interest only) 9-T MT on eBay

by andyh＠andyh-rayleigh.freeserve.co.uk

Item # 2002499129 is a HP 88780B Tape Drive (SCSI) This is on topic as the one I have is over 10 years old :-) Very heavy (definitely not recommended as a one-person lift!) ... collect >from Portslade (between Hove and Shoreham near Brighton). Don't know whether this particular example has 800bpi or only 1600 and 6250 No connection with vendor other than as a satisfied customer. (his workroom is an Aladins' cave - I just wish I had had time this morning to investigate further) Andy

24 years, 2 months

OT: cleaning pots on my vintage audio amp

by acme_ent＠bellsouth.net

> From: Chad Fernandez <fernande(a)internet1.net> After posting I realized that I neglected to mention that the humidity here in Florida most likely contributes to the problem. > Tuner cleaner? Okay, I'll look for it at Radio Shack. I don't know > else where to look around here. Also known as "contact cleaner." MCM sells a dozen different ones, including Rawn Contact Cleaner at $4.99 for the 9 oz. can. Or, you could visit a TV repair shop and ask if they'd sell you a can or two. I use a lot of the stuff as it works well for cleaning the contacts on computer expansion cards and slots, etc. > Your speaking of the line level connections? Yup, and the headphone jack if there's one present on your amp or other device. > I for got how heavy this monster is..... it's got to be about 40 lbs!! Yeah, my Fisher 404 quadraphonic tuner/amp out in the living-room contains massive transformers and is *not fun* to move. That sucker really rocks, though -- I can't turn it up much past 2 1/2 and still stay in the room ;>) The AM tuner's starting to drift so I'll have to deal with that some day. Glen 0/0

24 years, 2 months

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